I am getting well and truly fed up with receiving what are apparently
automated calls from abroad. So far I've had 8 today. I'm concerned
that they might continue throughout the night, waking us up, Yet I
don't like the idea of leaving the phone off-hook in case there's an
urgent call.

The 'nuisance call' BT operator I spoke to says there's nothing they
can do to stop international calls. Is that really true? If so, that's
a disgrace IMO. How high-tech or high-cost can it be to detect and
stop such calls?

Does anyone else suffer these? And is there really NOTHING I can do
about it please?

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"Terry Pinnell"  wrote in message 
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>I am getting well and truly fed up with receiving what are apparently
> automated calls from abroad. So far I've had 8 today. I'm concerned
> that they might continue throughout the night, waking us up, Yet I
> don't like the idea of leaving the phone off-hook in case there's an
> urgent call.
>
> The 'nuisance call' BT operator I spoke to says there's nothing they
> can do to stop international calls. Is that really true?

No it isn't.  They allow them because they make money from carrying the
calls, so are facilitating a criminal offence.  Similar to the way mobile
companies refuse to block reverse charge text messages, all because they
make money.

> If so, that's
> a disgrace IMO. How high-tech or high-cost can it be to detect and
> stop such calls?
>
> Does anyone else suffer these? And is there really NOTHING I can do
> about it please?
>

Tell BT you will cancel your contract, then wait about 20mins for a call
back.  They will soon do what they should be for you.

> --
> Terry, East Grinstead, UK

"Terry Pinnell" wrote:
>I am getting well and truly fed up with receiving what are apparently
> automated calls from abroad. So far I've had 8 today. I'm concerned
> that they might continue throughout the night, waking us up, Yet I
> don't like the idea of leaving the phone off-hook in case there's an
> urgent call.
>
> The 'nuisance call' BT operator I spoke to says there's nothing they
> can do to stop international calls. Is that really true? If so, that's
> a disgrace IMO. How high-tech or high-cost can it be to detect and
> stop such calls?
>
> Does anyone else suffer these? And is there really NOTHING I can do
> about it please?
>
> --
> Terry, East Grinstead, UK

BT don't give a toss. This might interest you, it is the only solution I am 
aware of:
<http://www.amazon.co.uk/TrueCall-Plug-in-Phone-Call-Unit/dp/B002GP7HQM/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1254746572&sr=8-1>

in 2922 20091006 073026 "Consumer"  wrote:
>"Terry Pinnell" wrote:
>>I am getting well and truly fed up with receiving what are apparently
>> automated calls from abroad. So far I've had 8 today. I'm concerned
>> that they might continue throughout the night, waking us up, Yet I
>> don't like the idea of leaving the phone off-hook in case there's an
>> urgent call.
>>
>> The 'nuisance call' BT operator I spoke to says there's nothing they
>> can do to stop international calls. Is that really true? If so, that's
>> a disgrace IMO. How high-tech or high-cost can it be to detect and
>> stop such calls?
>>
>> Does anyone else suffer these? And is there really NOTHING I can do
>> about it please?
>>
>> --
>> Terry, East Grinstead, UK
>
>BT don't give a toss. This might interest you, it is the only solution I am
>aware of:
><http://www.amazon.co.uk/TrueCall-Plug-in-Phone-Call-Unit/dp/B002GP7HQM/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1254746572&sr=8-1>

I thought that looked too good to be true, and it is.
VirginMedia have been promising caller ID for years but it still isn't available.

Do the calls have a number associated with them, if no, then you could get 
bt to not allow your phone to accept calls with no number displayed, if yes 
and its the same number, then this could be  barred. However, if like 
spammers, they keep changing the number you basically have the same problem 
as with email, how do you decide its an unwanted call?
If you bar numbers with no number display of course, some friends who 
disable their numbers will have to enable it to call you.

Brian

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"Terry Pinnell"  wrote in message 
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>I am getting well and truly fed up with receiving what are apparently
> automated calls from abroad. So far I've had 8 today. I'm concerned
> that they might continue throughout the night, waking us up, Yet I
> don't like the idea of leaving the phone off-hook in case there's an
> urgent call.
>
> The 'nuisance call' BT operator I spoke to says there's nothing they
> can do to stop international calls. Is that really true? If so, that's
> a disgrace IMO. How high-tech or high-cost can it be to detect and
> stop such calls?
>
> Does anyone else suffer these? And is there really NOTHING I can do
> about it please?
>
> --
> Terry, East Grinstead, UK

On Mon, 05 Oct 2009 19:46:56 +0100, Terry Pinnell
 wrote:

>I am getting well and truly fed up with receiving what are apparently
>automated calls from abroad. So far I've had 8 today. I'm concerned
>that they might continue throughout the night, waking us up, Yet I
>don't like the idea of leaving the phone off-hook in case there's an
>urgent call.
>
>The 'nuisance call' BT operator I spoke to says there's nothing they
>can do to stop international calls. Is that really true? If so, that's
>a disgrace IMO. How high-tech or high-cost can it be to detect and
>stop such calls?
>
>Does anyone else suffer these? And is there really NOTHING I can do
>about it please?

Telephone preference service will cut quite a few of them off.
Even if you've registered in the past do it again.

We were having an excessive amount and I had taken to being unkind to
them. Someone had suggested rickrolling them.
:)
http://www.tpsonline.org.uk/tps/
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"mogga" wrote:
> Telephone preference service will cut quite a few of them off.
> Even if you've registered in the past do it again.

The OP is trouble by international calls - TPS has no effect on these.

"Bob Martin" wrote:
> VirginMedia have been promising caller ID for years but it still isn't 
> available.

Unless it can handle caller ID withheld or caller ID constantly changing 
(both of which are common with international computer-dialled  random calls) 
then it will be useless if ever it does become available.

It does not work on the internationals, and these automated, Hi, have you 
ever been to Florida type calls are a menace as they hang onto the line like 
grim death when you try to clear them down.

I had a long chat with someone in Virgin at the time telewest about this and 
it seems a lot come from places like Belize and other small countries who 
very seldom police telecoms outfits.


Brian
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"mogga"  wrote in message 
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> On Mon, 05 Oct 2009 19:46:56 +0100, Terry Pinnell
>  wrote:
>
>>I am getting well and truly fed up with receiving what are apparently
>>automated calls from abroad. So far I've had 8 today. I'm concerned
>>that they might continue throughout the night, waking us up, Yet I
>>don't like the idea of leaving the phone off-hook in case there's an
>>urgent call.
>>
>>The 'nuisance call' BT operator I spoke to says there's nothing they
>>can do to stop international calls. Is that really true? If so, that's
>>a disgrace IMO. How high-tech or high-cost can it be to detect and
>>stop such calls?
>>
>>Does anyone else suffer these? And is there really NOTHING I can do
>>about it please?
>
> Telephone preference service will cut quite a few of them off.
> Even if you've registered in the past do it again.
>
> We were having an excessive amount and I had taken to being unkind to
> them. Someone had suggested rickrolling them.
> :)
> http://www.tpsonline.org.uk/tps/
> -- 
> http://www.halloweenfreebies.co.uk
> http://www.holidayunder100.co.uk

There used to be a device in them old days, which  someone showed me. 
Basically, it replied to all calls with an automated voice which said. Press 
1 twice to connect.
Unfortunately, many people thought they had rung the wrong number and put 
the phone down.

Pity, cos the idea in ittself is good as a recording cannot press 1 twice!

Brian

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"Consumer"  wrote in message 
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> "mogga" wrote:
>> Telephone preference service will cut quite a few of them off.
>> Even if you've registered in the past do it again.
>
> The OP is trouble by international calls - TPS has no effect on these.
>

On Tue, 6 Oct 2009 16:56:16 +0100, "Consumer" 
wrote:

>"mogga" wrote:
>> Telephone preference service will cut quite a few of them off.
>> Even if you've registered in the past do it again.
>
>The OP is trouble by international calls - TPS has no effect on these. 

Nor on recorded messages, nor on silent calls.  The TPS is also a
voluntary scheme and they will do nothing about abuses.
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"Brian Gaff"  wrote in message
<sni

> If you bar numbers with no number display of course, 
> some friends who disable their numbers will have to 
> enable it to call you.
>
> Brian
>

They would need to dial 1470, this would 
disable/untoggle for that one call call only.