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date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 17:41:10 +0000,    group: uk.people.consumers        back       
High definition reading lights   
We received a brochure about 'high definition reading lights' recently
At first sight it seemed interesting because both my wife and I do a
lot of reading and could well use some stronger illumination. But I
was amazed on checking out their web page
http://www.seriousreaders.com/
to see the £400 price for a standing lamp.

Can anyone muster any justification for this sort of cost please?
Anyone with any experience of these or similar lamps? Or any
alternative suggested products?

-- 
Terry, East Grinstead, UK
-- 
Terry
date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 17:41:10 +0000   author:   Terry Pinnell

Re: High definition reading lights   
In article ,
   Terry Pinnell  wrote:
> We received a brochure about 'high definition reading lights' recently
> At first sight it seemed interesting because both my wife and I do a
> lot of reading and could well use some stronger illumination. But I
> was amazed on checking out their web page
> http://www.seriousreaders.com/
> to see the £400 price for a standing lamp.

> Can anyone muster any justification for this sort of cost please?

Sure - con artists charge what they want.

> Anyone with any experience of these or similar lamps? Or any
> alternative suggested products?

What are you using at the moment? I have a 100 watt halogen lamp in the
anglepoise over my workbench - and that provides plenty of quality light
for even my old eyes.

The top one on this page:-

http://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Main_Index/Lighting_Menu_Index/Lamps_and_Tubes_Index/Halogena/index.html

-- 
*Depression is merely anger without enthusiasm *

    Dave Plowman        dave@davenoise.co.uk           London SW
                  To e-mail, change noise into sound.
date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 18:23:27 +0000 (GMT)   author:   Dave Plowman (News)

Re: High definition reading lights   
Terry Pinnell wrote:
> We received a brochure about 'high definition reading lights' recently
> At first sight it seemed interesting because both my wife and I do a
> lot of reading and could well use some stronger illumination. But I
> was amazed on checking out their web page


Look at their little more reasonably priced replacement bulbs on the 
website. Unusual? or bog standard?

Even so, you could probably buy their replacement bulb and a compatible 
lamp standard from a place like Ikea.

The price you are paying on that websites relates to the smart looking 
design of their lights, the profit margin and the ethos of the guy 
running the website taking rich pickings from 'comfortable' retired folk 
that may not know that there are plenty of alternatives.

Looking at the rest of the site, I see that it's protected with medical 
advice and a list of recommending opticians (happy to do business). It's 
also got this in the T&C's

"It is not permitted to create any link to this web site without our 
prior written consent."

Hmmmm....

-- 
Adrian C
date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 18:46:41 +0000   author:   Adrian C lid

Re: High definition reading lights   
"Dave Plowman (News)"  wrote in message 
news:501eaae7c6dave@davenoise.co.uk...


> http://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Main_Index/Lighting_Menu_Index/Lamps_and_Tubes_Index/Halogena/index.html

They do work well.
I have some.
I certainly wouldn't buy 100W GLS lamps after using one of the halogena.
I don't think GLS lamps are quite there yet.
date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 19:41:38 -0000   author:   dennis@home

Re: High definition reading lights   
Terry Pinnell  wrote:
>We received a brochure about 'high definition reading lights' recently
>At first sight it seemed interesting because both my wife and I do a
>lot of reading and could well use some stronger illumination. But I
>was amazed on checking out their web page
>http://www.seriousreaders.com/
>to see the £400 price for a standing lamp.


Spare bulbs @ £299.99, I expect.
date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 21:11:44 +0000   author:   Bruce

Re: High definition reading lights   
"Bruce"  wrote in message 
news:sut1n49h2fpti288sq5dtohtjtng5at7t9@4ax.com...
> Terry Pinnell  wrote:
>>We received a brochure about 'high definition reading lights' recently
>>At first sight it seemed interesting because both my wife and I do a
>>lot of reading and could well use some stronger illumination. But I
>>was amazed on checking out their web page
>>http://www.seriousreaders.com/
>>to see the £400 price for a standing lamp.
>
>
> Spare bulbs @ £299.99, I expect.
>

£12.99 IIRC.
They look like 35W gui bulbs in the picture.
I would have expect HID for that price of the original.
date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 21:15:59 -0000   author:   dennis@home

Re: High definition reading lights   
On 16 Jan, 17:41, Terry Pinnell  wrote:
> We received a brochure about 'high definition reading lights' recently
> At first sight it seemed interesting because both my wife and I do a
> lot of reading and could well use some stronger illumination. But I
> was amazed on checking out their web pagehttp://www.seriousreaders.com/
> to see the £400 price for a standing lamp.
>
> Can anyone muster any justification for this sort of cost please?
> Anyone with any experience of these or similar lamps? Or any
> alternative suggested products?
>
> --
> Terry, East Grinstead, UK
> --
> Terry

The dodgy Dr Ott strikes again. High colour temp fluro at a higher
price.Tyhe originator of the whole "full spectrum" scam.

http://www.ottlite.com

Halogena is a good choice if your fitting will take the heat,
personally use 20W LV halogen desk lamps near task.

Solux make some nice products but the lamps are better value on import
from U.S.

http://www.solux.net/

http://www.solux.net/

Adam
date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 13:27:12 -0800 (PST)   author:   Adam Aglionby

Re: High definition reading lights   
On Fri, 16 Jan 2009 17:41:10 +0000, Terry Pinnell wrote:

> Can anyone muster any justification for this sort of cost please?

P. T Barnum effect

(STFW :-))


-- 
John Stumbles

militant pacifist
date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 22:51:38 GMT   author:   John Stumbles

Re: High definition reading lights   
"dennis@home"  wrote:
>"Bruce"  wrote in message 
>news:sut1n49h2fpti288sq5dtohtjtng5at7t9@4ax.com...
>> Terry Pinnell  wrote:
>>>We received a brochure about 'high definition reading lights' recently
>>>At first sight it seemed interesting because both my wife and I do a
>>>lot of reading and could well use some stronger illumination. But I
>>>was amazed on checking out their web page
>>>http://www.seriousreaders.com/
>>>to see the £400 price for a standing lamp.
>>
>>
>> Spare bulbs @ £299.99, I expect.
>>
>
>£12.99 IIRC.


Good grief!  That floor lamp is never worth £387.00 without a bulb!


>They look like 35W gui bulbs in the picture.
>I would have expect HID for that price of the original. 


It's amazing what people will pay for a reading lamp, if indeed anyone
does pay £399.99 for this.
date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 22:52:17 +0000   author:   Bruce

Re: High definition reading lights   
In article <gkqtem$62f$1@news.datemas.de>,
   dennis@home  wrote:
> I would have expect HID for that price of the original. 

You can buy aftermarket car HID conversion kits for under 100 quid these
days on Ebay. And an SMPS to drive those from mains wouldn't be that
expensive. They do a big range of colour temperature too  - although I
don't know how good the spectrum is.

Car ones are usually 35 watts - and that seems to equate roughly to a good
12 volt 100 watt halogen.

-- 
*The sooner you fall behind, the more time you'll have to catch up *

    Dave Plowman        dave@davenoise.co.uk           London SW
                  To e-mail, change noise into sound.
date: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 00:42:25 +0000 (GMT)   author:   Dave Plowman (News)

Re: High definition reading lights   
On Jan 16, 11:41 am, Terry Pinnell  wrote:
> We received a brochure about 'high definition reading lights' recently
> At first sight it seemed interesting because both my wife and I do a
> lot of reading and could well use some stronger illumination. But I
> was amazed on checking out their web pagehttp://www.seriousreaders.com/
> to see the £400 price for a standing lamp.
>
> Can anyone muster any justification for this sort of cost please?
> Anyone with any experience of these or similar lamps? Or any
> alternative suggested products?
>
> --
> Terry, East Grinstead, UK
> --
> Terry

Keep shopping they are sold for 1/20th the price. Its the ad that
costs alot.
date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 21:17:05 -0800 (PST)   author:   ransley

Re: High definition reading lights   
Check out the lamps sold through the RNIB or Optima low vision. They seem to 
go for really nice white lights. Is this  a gold plated lamp for that price? 
Must be hand built or something.
Brian

-- 
Brian Gaff....Note, this account does not accept Bcc: email.
 graphics are great, but the blind can't hear them
Email: briang1@blueyonder.co.uk
______________________________________________________________________________________________________________


"Terry Pinnell"  wrote in message 
news:f9h1n4t5no462c07ii0okse1tcpphsl2em@4ax.com...
> We received a brochure about 'high definition reading lights' recently
> At first sight it seemed interesting because both my wife and I do a
> lot of reading and could well use some stronger illumination. But I
> was amazed on checking out their web page
> http://www.seriousreaders.com/
> to see the £400 price for a standing lamp.
>
> Can anyone muster any justification for this sort of cost please?
> Anyone with any experience of these or similar lamps? Or any
> alternative suggested products?
>
> -- 
> Terry, East Grinstead, UK
> -- 
> Terry
date: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 08:45:40 GMT   author:   Brian Gaff

Re: High definition reading lights   
Terry Pinnell  wrote in 
news:f9h1n4t5no462c07ii0okse1tcpphsl2em@4ax.com:

> We received a brochure about 'high definition reading 
lights' recently
> At first sight it seemed interesting because both my 
wife and I do a
> lot of reading and could well use some stronger 
illumination. But I
> was amazed on checking out their web page
> http://www.seriousreaders.com/
> to see the £400 price for a standing lamp.
> 
> Can anyone muster any justification for this sort of 
cost please?
> Anyone with any experience of these or similar lamps? Or 
any
> alternative suggested products?
> 

I have bought two lights from these people.  The £100 
floor standing lamp looks nice but does not give me enough 
light to read and replacement bulbs only seem to be avail 
from Serious Readers.
The second was a £200 brass-finish double over-the-bed 
light. When I unpacked it, it turned out to have a sprayed 
-on imitation bronze finish. Yuk!  Sent it straight back.

DAvy
date: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 06:50:51 -0600   author:   Davy

Re: High definition reading lights   
Davy  wrote:

>Terry Pinnell  wrote in 
>news:f9h1n4t5no462c07ii0okse1tcpphsl2em@4ax.com:
>
>> We received a brochure about 'high definition reading 
>lights' recently
>> At first sight it seemed interesting because both my 
>wife and I do a
>> lot of reading and could well use some stronger 
>illumination. But I
>> was amazed on checking out their web page
>> http://www.seriousreaders.com/
>> to see the £400 price for a standing lamp.
>> 
>> Can anyone muster any justification for this sort of 
>cost please?
>> Anyone with any experience of these or similar lamps? Or 
>any
>> alternative suggested products?
>> 
>
>I have bought two lights from these people.  The £100 
>floor standing lamp looks nice but does not give me enough 
>light to read and replacement bulbs only seem to be avail 
>from Serious Readers.
>The second was a £200 brass-finish double over-the-bed 
>light. When I unpacked it, it turned out to have a sprayed 
>-on imitation bronze finish. Yuk!  Sent it straight back.
>
>DAvy

Thanks all, appreciate those helpful replies. I won't be becoming a
new customer.

Sounds like daylight robbery, if you'll excuse the pun ;-)

-- 
Terry, East Grinstead, UK
date: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 15:52:46 +0000   author:   Terry Pinnell

Re: High definition reading lights   
"Terry Pinnell"  wrote in message 
news:f9h1n4t5no462c07ii0okse1tcpphsl2em@4ax.com...
> We received a brochure about 'high definition reading lights' recently
> At first sight it seemed interesting because both my wife and I do a
> lot of reading and could well use some stronger illumination. But I
> was amazed on checking out their web page
> http://www.seriousreaders.com/
> to see the £400 price for a standing lamp.
>
> Can anyone muster any justification for this sort of cost please?
> Anyone with any experience of these or similar lamps? Or any
> alternative suggested products?

You need one of these

http://tinyurl.com/93xcgw




;-)
date: 17 Jan 2009 17:07:06 GMT   author:   RW

Re: High definition reading lights   
Terry Pinnell wrote:

> We received a brochure about 'high definition reading lights' recently
> At first sight it seemed interesting because both my wife and I do a
> lot of reading and could well use some stronger illumination. But I
> was amazed on checking out their web page
> http://www.seriousreaders.com/
> to see the £400 price for a standing lamp.
> 
> Can anyone muster any justification for this sort of cost please?

They look like bog standard LV halogen lamps. (which will give a nice 
bright white light)

> Anyone with any experience of these or similar lamps? Or any
> alternative suggested products?

I bought a floor standing unit with a flexible bit at the top to use as 
a bedside light many years ago (about £45 in waitrose IIRC). It has two 
brightness levels and runs a LV halogen capsule bulb (which last for 
years and years). It works very well as a reading light since you can 
[place it very accurately without too much overspill. Mine uses 50W 
capsules - but I find the lower light setting is the one I almost always 
use.

-- 
Cheers,

John.

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