Hello All,

I'm searching for my birth parents particularly my birth mother as I was 
adopted shortly after my birth.  I was born in October 1965 and was adopted 
in April 1966.  I currently have in my possession copies of my original 
birth certificate, my birth mothers birth certificate and my adoption 
certificate.

I was born in Sheffield and my birth mother was born in Putney in 1942.  My 
birth father and his occupation have been omitted on my original birth 
certificate thus making it impossible to find out who he is/was without 
firstly contacting my birth mother.

I wish to register myself with either a government or non governmental 
adoption contact register that specialises in tracing birth parents.

Can I ask for recommendations please.

Thanks for your time,

Jed

in article 46001877$0$8735$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader02.plus.net, Jed B at
j.brough@net......co wrote on 20/3/07 17:23:

> Hello All,
> 
> I'm searching for my birth parents particularly my birth mother as I was
> adopted shortly after my birth.  I was born in October 1965 and was adopted
> in April 1966.  I currently have in my possession copies of my original
> birth certificate, my birth mothers birth certificate and my adoption
> certificate.
> 
> I was born in Sheffield and my birth mother was born in Putney in 1942.  My
> birth father and his occupation have been omitted on my original birth
> certificate thus making it impossible to find out who he is/was without
> firstly contacting my birth mother.
> 
> I wish to register myself with either a government or non governmental
> adoption contact register that specialises in tracing birth parents.
> 
> Can I ask for recommendations please.
> 
> Thanks for your time,
> 
> Jed 
> 
> 


Hello Jed

The fact that your father's name does not appear on your birth certificate
does not mean that it does not appear on other documents in your adoption
files.

If you were adopted through an adoption agency ask them or whichever agency
now holds their records for access to your adoption file.

If there was no adoption agency involved, apply to the court where you were
adopted for access to its file on your adoption.

Also ask the Local Authority in the area where you were adopted if they hold
a copy of your Guardian ad Litem report, which may mention your father. They
may also hold Visiting Officer's notes and reports which could possibly
mention him.

You may have to be very firm with the social workers there. You may want to
enlist the help of an Adoption Support Agency but they do have to charge
fees. AAA-Norcap has its own contact register as well http://norcap.org
There are many websites where you can leave details, you need to be quite
wary of some them make sure to Google first find out what comments others
have made. There are some real rogue organisations around still
unfortunately, despite the new government regulations on who can undertake
such work!


Best of luck, you'll need it


Robin

*

"Jed B" <j.brough@net......co> wrote in message 
news:46001877$0$8735$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader02.plus.net...
> Hello All,
>
> I'm searching for my birth parents particularly my birth mother as I 
> was adopted shortly after my birth.  I was born in October 1965 and 
> was adopted in April 1966.  I currently have in my possession copies 
> of my original birth certificate, my birth mothers birth certificate 
> and my adoption certificate.
>
> I was born in Sheffield and my birth mother was born in Putney in 
> 1942.  My birth father and his occupation have been omitted on my 
> original birth certificate thus making it impossible to find out who 
> he is/was without firstly contacting my birth mother.

And you may not have contact because she does not want it. Or even if 
she does allow contact she may not be able to tell you who your father 
was. And even if she could tell you who your father was she may choose 
not to do so for reasons which appear good to her. And even if she 
tells you it does not follow that you can contact him.

>
> I wish to register myself with either a government or non 
> governmental adoption contact register that specialises in tracing 
> birth parents.
>
> Can I ask for recommendations please.
>
NORCAP. Get their bumf, read it, and do what it says. That 
recommendation is unbiased. I am not a member or supporter of NORCAP 
and never will be. My speciality is in post-adoption problems which 
arise when the system has broken down and lives are at stake. The 
first move must always be to try the system. If it works, and it does 
for almost all cases where it can work, the problem is solved and what 
I do would be an unnecessary nuisance. Furthermore I take up cases or 
don't take them up at my sole discretion, and for any case I take up 
there are no charges for my time or expenses. I take up very few cases 
and they are almost always to do with some little hitler who has made 
a mistake out of ignorance and who then abuses power to cover up that 
mistake regardless of any damage done to individual people. In other 
words the cases are not about adoption and searching as such. They are 
about injustice. They take a lot of time and expense, and that is only 
going to be incurred for people who have made the fullest honest 
attempt to use the system provided. If NORCAP turn you down for good 
reason there is no point coming to me. It is a recognised body and 
complies with the law.

That some of the law is exceedingly stupid is another issue. That is 
about politics and long-term changes. For individuals in the here and 
now you comply with the law 'as is' and deal only with bodies which 
also comply with it 'as is'.

There is an alternative approach. You can go to a commercial firm, 
which may or may not play ducks and drakes with the law. If you do, 
kindly don't come back to the newsgroup with tales of how you have 
been ripped off and how it all went wrong, should such things happen. 
I for one will have no sympathy with you because all my attention will 
be reserved for those people you and your hired guns have damaged. 
Adoption searching does NOT involve just two people. At the beginning 
you don't know how many people it involves or how delicate their 
existing situations may be. You cannot know how much time it will take 
to sort out those relationships or what the costs involved would be if 
it is to be done in a proper and considerate manner. Those are NOT 
considerations which necessarily enter into the calculation of profit 
margins in a business. If you give a commercial organisation a forced 
choice of making a loss by handling your case properly, or making a 
profit by cutting corners regardless of damage to others, how would 
you expect it to choose? How would you choose if it was your sole 
source of income? There are some things which should not be run as a 
business. In my opinion, adoption searching is one of them.

Don

in article 46001877$0$8735$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader02.plus.net, Jed B at
j.brough@net......co wrote on 20/3/07 17:23:

> Hello All,
> 
> I'm searching for my birth parents particularly my birth mother as I was
> adopted shortly after my birth.  I was born in October 1965 and was adopted
> in April 1966.  I currently have in my possession copies of my original
> birth certificate, my birth mothers birth certificate and my adoption
> certificate.
> 
> I was born in Sheffield and my birth mother was born in Putney in 1942.  My
> birth father and his occupation have been omitted on my original birth
> certificate thus making it impossible to find out who he is/was without
> firstly contacting my birth mother.
> 
> I wish to register myself with either a government or non governmental
> adoption contact register that specialises in tracing birth parents.
> 
> Can I ask for recommendations please.
> 
> Thanks for your time,
> 
> Jed 
> 
> 


Hello Jed

The fact that your father's name does not appear on your birth certificate
does not mean that it does not appear on other documents in your adoption
files.

If you were adopted through an adoption agency ask them or whichever agency
now holds their records for access to your adoption file.

If there was no adoption agency involved, apply to the court where you were
adopted for access to its file on your adoption.

Also ask the Local Authority in the area where you were adopted if they hold
a copy of your Guardian ad Litem report, which may mention your father. They
may also hold Visiting Officer's notes and reports which could possibly
mention him.

You may have to be very firm with the social workers there. You may want to
enlist the help of an Adoption Support Agency but they do have to charge
fees. AAA-Norcap has its own contact register as well http://norcap.org
There are many websites where you can leave details, you need to be quite
wary of some them make sure to Google first find out what comments others
have made. There are some real rogue organisations around still
unfortunately, despite the new government regulations on who can undertake
such work!


Best of luck, you'll need it


Robin

*

"Jed B" <j.brough@net......co> wrote in message 
news:46001877$0$8735$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader02.plus.net...
> Hello All,
>
> I'm searching for my birth parents particularly my birth mother as I 
> was adopted shortly after my birth.  I was born in October 1965 and 
> was adopted in April 1966.  I currently have in my possession copies 
> of my original birth certificate, my birth mothers birth certificate 
> and my adoption certificate.
>
> I was born in Sheffield and my birth mother was born in Putney in 
> 1942.  My birth father and his occupation have been omitted on my 
> original birth certificate thus making it impossible to find out who 
> he is/was without firstly contacting my birth mother.

And you may not have contact because she does not want it. Or even if 
she does allow contact she may not be able to tell you who your father 
was. And even if she could tell you who your father was she may choose 
not to do so for reasons which appear good to her. And even if she 
tells you it does not follow that you can contact him.

>
> I wish to register myself with either a government or non 
> governmental adoption contact register that specialises in tracing 
> birth parents.
>
> Can I ask for recommendations please.
>
NORCAP. Get their bumf, read it, and do what it says. That 
recommendation is unbiased. I am not a member or supporter of NORCAP 
and never will be. My speciality is in post-adoption problems which 
arise when the system has broken down and lives are at stake. The 
first move must always be to try the system. If it works, and it does 
for almost all cases where it can work, the problem is solved and what 
I do would be an unnecessary nuisance. Furthermore I take up cases or 
don't take them up at my sole discretion, and for any case I take up 
there are no charges for my time or expenses. I take up very few cases 
and they are almost always to do with some little hitler who has made 
a mistake out of ignorance and who then abuses power to cover up that 
mistake regardless of any damage done to individual people. In other 
words the cases are not about adoption and searching as such. They are 
about injustice. They take a lot of time and expense, and that is only 
going to be incurred for people who have made the fullest honest 
attempt to use the system provided. If NORCAP turn you down for good 
reason there is no point coming to me. It is a recognised body and 
complies with the law.

That some of the law is exceedingly stupid is another issue. That is 
about politics and long-term changes. For individuals in the here and 
now you comply with the law 'as is' and deal only with bodies which 
also comply with it 'as is'.

There is an alternative approach. You can go to a commercial firm, 
which may or may not play ducks and drakes with the law. If you do, 
kindly don't come back to the newsgroup with tales of how you have 
been ripped off and how it all went wrong, should such things happen. 
I for one will have no sympathy with you because all my attention will 
be reserved for those people you and your hired guns have damaged. 
Adoption searching does NOT involve just two people. At the beginning 
you don't know how many people it involves or how delicate their 
existing situations may be. You cannot know how much time it will take 
to sort out those relationships or what the costs involved would be if 
it is to be done in a proper and considerate manner. Those are NOT 
considerations which necessarily enter into the calculation of profit 
margins in a business. If you give a commercial organisation a forced 
choice of making a loss by handling your case properly, or making a 
profit by cutting corners regardless of damage to others, how would 
you expect it to choose? How would you choose if it was your sole 
source of income? There are some things which should not be run as a 
business. In my opinion, adoption searching is one of them.

Don

in article 46001877$0$8735$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader02.plus.net, Jed B at
j.brough@net......co wrote on 20/3/07 17:23:

> Hello All,
> 
> I'm searching for my birth parents particularly my birth mother as I was
> adopted shortly after my birth.  I was born in October 1965 and was adopted
> in April 1966.  I currently have in my possession copies of my original
> birth certificate, my birth mothers birth certificate and my adoption
> certificate.
> 
> I was born in Sheffield and my birth mother was born in Putney in 1942.  My
> birth father and his occupation have been omitted on my original birth
> certificate thus making it impossible to find out who he is/was without
> firstly contacting my birth mother.
> 
> I wish to register myself with either a government or non governmental
> adoption contact register that specialises in tracing birth parents.
> 
> Can I ask for recommendations please.
> 
> Thanks for your time,
> 
> Jed 
> 
> 


Hello Jed

The fact that your father's name does not appear on your birth certificate
does not mean that it does not appear on other documents in your adoption
files.

If you were adopted through an adoption agency ask them or whichever agency
now holds their records for access to your adoption file.

If there was no adoption agency involved, apply to the court where you were
adopted for access to its file on your adoption.

Also ask the Local Authority in the area where you were adopted if they hold
a copy of your Guardian ad Litem report, which may mention your father. They
may also hold Visiting Officer's notes and reports which could possibly
mention him.

You may have to be very firm with the social workers there. You may want to
enlist the help of an Adoption Support Agency but they do have to charge
fees. AAA-Norcap has its own contact register as well http://norcap.org
There are many websites where you can leave details, you need to be quite
wary of some them make sure to Google first find out what comments others
have made. There are some real rogue organisations around still
unfortunately, despite the new government regulations on who can undertake
such work!


Best of luck, you'll need it


Robin

*

"Jed B" <j.brough@net......co> wrote in message 
news:46001877$0$8735$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader02.plus.net...
> Hello All,
>
> I'm searching for my birth parents particularly my birth mother as I 
> was adopted shortly after my birth.  I was born in October 1965 and 
> was adopted in April 1966.  I currently have in my possession copies 
> of my original birth certificate, my birth mothers birth certificate 
> and my adoption certificate.
>
> I was born in Sheffield and my birth mother was born in Putney in 
> 1942.  My birth father and his occupation have been omitted on my 
> original birth certificate thus making it impossible to find out who 
> he is/was without firstly contacting my birth mother.

And you may not have contact because she does not want it. Or even if 
she does allow contact she may not be able to tell you who your father 
was. And even if she could tell you who your father was she may choose 
not to do so for reasons which appear good to her. And even if she 
tells you it does not follow that you can contact him.

>
> I wish to register myself with either a government or non 
> governmental adoption contact register that specialises in tracing 
> birth parents.
>
> Can I ask for recommendations please.
>
NORCAP. Get their bumf, read it, and do what it says. That 
recommendation is unbiased. I am not a member or supporter of NORCAP 
and never will be. My speciality is in post-adoption problems which 
arise when the system has broken down and lives are at stake. The 
first move must always be to try the system. If it works, and it does 
for almost all cases where it can work, the problem is solved and what 
I do would be an unnecessary nuisance. Furthermore I take up cases or 
don't take them up at my sole discretion, and for any case I take up 
there are no charges for my time or expenses. I take up very few cases 
and they are almost always to do with some little hitler who has made 
a mistake out of ignorance and who then abuses power to cover up that 
mistake regardless of any damage done to individual people. In other 
words the cases are not about adoption and searching as such. They are 
about injustice. They take a lot of time and expense, and that is only 
going to be incurred for people who have made the fullest honest 
attempt to use the system provided. If NORCAP turn you down for good 
reason there is no point coming to me. It is a recognised body and 
complies with the law.

That some of the law is exceedingly stupid is another issue. That is 
about politics and long-term changes. For individuals in the here and 
now you comply with the law 'as is' and deal only with bodies which 
also comply with it 'as is'.

There is an alternative approach. You can go to a commercial firm, 
which may or may not play ducks and drakes with the law. If you do, 
kindly don't come back to the newsgroup with tales of how you have 
been ripped off and how it all went wrong, should such things happen. 
I for one will have no sympathy with you because all my attention will 
be reserved for those people you and your hired guns have damaged. 
Adoption searching does NOT involve just two people. At the beginning 
you don't know how many people it involves or how delicate their 
existing situations may be. You cannot know how much time it will take 
to sort out those relationships or what the costs involved would be if 
it is to be done in a proper and considerate manner. Those are NOT 
considerations which necessarily enter into the calculation of profit 
margins in a business. If you give a commercial organisation a forced 
choice of making a loss by handling your case properly, or making a 
profit by cutting corners regardless of damage to others, how would 
you expect it to choose? How would you choose if it was your sole 
source of income? There are some things which should not be run as a 
business. In my opinion, adoption searching is one of them.

Don

in article 46001877$0$8735$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader02.plus.net, Jed B at
j.brough@net......co wrote on 20/3/07 17:23:

> Hello All,
> 
> I'm searching for my birth parents particularly my birth mother as I was
> adopted shortly after my birth.  I was born in October 1965 and was adopted
> in April 1966.  I currently have in my possession copies of my original
> birth certificate, my birth mothers birth certificate and my adoption
> certificate.
> 
> I was born in Sheffield and my birth mother was born in Putney in 1942.  My
> birth father and his occupation have been omitted on my original birth
> certificate thus making it impossible to find out who he is/was without
> firstly contacting my birth mother.
> 
> I wish to register myself with either a government or non governmental
> adoption contact register that specialises in tracing birth parents.
> 
> Can I ask for recommendations please.
> 
> Thanks for your time,
> 
> Jed 
> 
> 


Hello Jed

The fact that your father's name does not appear on your birth certificate
does not mean that it does not appear on other documents in your adoption
files.

If you were adopted through an adoption agency ask them or whichever agency
now holds their records for access to your adoption file.

If there was no adoption agency involved, apply to the court where you were
adopted for access to its file on your adoption.

Also ask the Local Authority in the area where you were adopted if they hold
a copy of your Guardian ad Litem report, which may mention your father. They
may also hold Visiting Officer's notes and reports which could possibly
mention him.

You may have to be very firm with the social workers there. You may want to
enlist the help of an Adoption Support Agency but they do have to charge
fees. AAA-Norcap has its own contact register as well http://norcap.org
There are many websites where you can leave details, you need to be quite
wary of some them make sure to Google first find out what comments others
have made. There are some real rogue organisations around still
unfortunately, despite the new government regulations on who can undertake
such work!


Best of luck, you'll need it


Robin

*

"Jed B" <j.brough@net......co> wrote in message 
news:46001877$0$8735$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader02.plus.net...
> Hello All,
>
> I'm searching for my birth parents particularly my birth mother as I 
> was adopted shortly after my birth.  I was born in October 1965 and 
> was adopted in April 1966.  I currently have in my possession copies 
> of my original birth certificate, my birth mothers birth certificate 
> and my adoption certificate.
>
> I was born in Sheffield and my birth mother was born in Putney in 
> 1942.  My birth father and his occupation have been omitted on my 
> original birth certificate thus making it impossible to find out who 
> he is/was without firstly contacting my birth mother.

And you may not have contact because she does not want it. Or even if 
she does allow contact she may not be able to tell you who your father 
was. And even if she could tell you who your father was she may choose 
not to do so for reasons which appear good to her. And even if she 
tells you it does not follow that you can contact him.

>
> I wish to register myself with either a government or non 
> governmental adoption contact register that specialises in tracing 
> birth parents.
>
> Can I ask for recommendations please.
>
NORCAP. Get their bumf, read it, and do what it says. That 
recommendation is unbiased. I am not a member or supporter of NORCAP 
and never will be. My speciality is in post-adoption problems which 
arise when the system has broken down and lives are at stake. The 
first move must always be to try the system. If it works, and it does 
for almost all cases where it can work, the problem is solved and what 
I do would be an unnecessary nuisance. Furthermore I take up cases or 
don't take them up at my sole discretion, and for any case I take up 
there are no charges for my time or expenses. I take up very few cases 
and they are almost always to do with some little hitler who has made 
a mistake out of ignorance and who then abuses power to cover up that 
mistake regardless of any damage done to individual people. In other 
words the cases are not about adoption and searching as such. They are 
about injustice. They take a lot of time and expense, and that is only 
going to be incurred for people who have made the fullest honest 
attempt to use the system provided. If NORCAP turn you down for good 
reason there is no point coming to me. It is a recognised body and 
complies with the law.

That some of the law is exceedingly stupid is another issue. That is 
about politics and long-term changes. For individuals in the here and 
now you comply with the law 'as is' and deal only with bodies which 
also comply with it 'as is'.

There is an alternative approach. You can go to a commercial firm, 
which may or may not play ducks and drakes with the law. If you do, 
kindly don't come back to the newsgroup with tales of how you have 
been ripped off and how it all went wrong, should such things happen. 
I for one will have no sympathy with you because all my attention will 
be reserved for those people you and your hired guns have damaged. 
Adoption searching does NOT involve just two people. At the beginning 
you don't know how many people it involves or how delicate their 
existing situations may be. You cannot know how much time it will take 
to sort out those relationships or what the costs involved would be if 
it is to be done in a proper and considerate manner. Those are NOT 
considerations which necessarily enter into the calculation of profit 
margins in a business. If you give a commercial organisation a forced 
choice of making a loss by handling your case properly, or making a 
profit by cutting corners regardless of damage to others, how would 
you expect it to choose? How would you choose if it was your sole 
source of income? There are some things which should not be run as a 
business. In my opinion, adoption searching is one of them.

Don

in article 46001877$0$8735$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader02.plus.net, Jed B at
j.brough@net......co wrote on 20/3/07 17:23:

> Hello All,
> 
> I'm searching for my birth parents particularly my birth mother as I was
> adopted shortly after my birth.  I was born in October 1965 and was adopted
> in April 1966.  I currently have in my possession copies of my original
> birth certificate, my birth mothers birth certificate and my adoption
> certificate.
> 
> I was born in Sheffield and my birth mother was born in Putney in 1942.  My
> birth father and his occupation have been omitted on my original birth
> certificate thus making it impossible to find out who he is/was without
> firstly contacting my birth mother.
> 
> I wish to register myself with either a government or non governmental
> adoption contact register that specialises in tracing birth parents.
> 
> Can I ask for recommendations please.
> 
> Thanks for your time,
> 
> Jed 
> 
> 


Hello Jed

The fact that your father's name does not appear on your birth certificate
does not mean that it does not appear on other documents in your adoption
files.

If you were adopted through an adoption agency ask them or whichever agency
now holds their records for access to your adoption file.

If there was no adoption agency involved, apply to the court where you were
adopted for access to its file on your adoption.

Also ask the Local Authority in the area where you were adopted if they hold
a copy of your Guardian ad Litem report, which may mention your father. They
may also hold Visiting Officer's notes and reports which could possibly
mention him.

You may have to be very firm with the social workers there. You may want to
enlist the help of an Adoption Support Agency but they do have to charge
fees. AAA-Norcap has its own contact register as well http://norcap.org
There are many websites where you can leave details, you need to be quite
wary of some them make sure to Google first find out what comments others
have made. There are some real rogue organisations around still
unfortunately, despite the new government regulations on who can undertake
such work!


Best of luck, you'll need it


Robin

*

"Jed B" <j.brough@net......co> wrote in message 
news:46001877$0$8735$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader02.plus.net...
> Hello All,
>
> I'm searching for my birth parents particularly my birth mother as I 
> was adopted shortly after my birth.  I was born in October 1965 and 
> was adopted in April 1966.  I currently have in my possession copies 
> of my original birth certificate, my birth mothers birth certificate 
> and my adoption certificate.
>
> I was born in Sheffield and my birth mother was born in Putney in 
> 1942.  My birth father and his occupation have been omitted on my 
> original birth certificate thus making it impossible to find out who 
> he is/was without firstly contacting my birth mother.

And you may not have contact because she does not want it. Or even if 
she does allow contact she may not be able to tell you who your father 
was. And even if she could tell you who your father was she may choose 
not to do so for reasons which appear good to her. And even if she 
tells you it does not follow that you can contact him.

>
> I wish to register myself with either a government or non 
> governmental adoption contact register that specialises in tracing 
> birth parents.
>
> Can I ask for recommendations please.
>
NORCAP. Get their bumf, read it, and do what it says. That 
recommendation is unbiased. I am not a member or supporter of NORCAP 
and never will be. My speciality is in post-adoption problems which 
arise when the system has broken down and lives are at stake. The 
first move must always be to try the system. If it works, and it does 
for almost all cases where it can work, the problem is solved and what 
I do would be an unnecessary nuisance. Furthermore I take up cases or 
don't take them up at my sole discretion, and for any case I take up 
there are no charges for my time or expenses. I take up very few cases 
and they are almost always to do with some little hitler who has made 
a mistake out of ignorance and who then abuses power to cover up that 
mistake regardless of any damage done to individual people. In other 
words the cases are not about adoption and searching as such. They are 
about injustice. They take a lot of time and expense, and that is only 
going to be incurred for people who have made the fullest honest 
attempt to use the system provided. If NORCAP turn you down for good 
reason there is no point coming to me. It is a recognised body and 
complies with the law.

That some of the law is exceedingly stupid is another issue. That is 
about politics and long-term changes. For individuals in the here and 
now you comply with the law 'as is' and deal only with bodies which 
also comply with it 'as is'.

There is an alternative approach. You can go to a commercial firm, 
which may or may not play ducks and drakes with the law. If you do, 
kindly don't come back to the newsgroup with tales of how you have 
been ripped off and how it all went wrong, should such things happen. 
I for one will have no sympathy with you because all my attention will 
be reserved for those people you and your hired guns have damaged. 
Adoption searching does NOT involve just two people. At the beginning 
you don't know how many people it involves or how delicate their 
existing situations may be. You cannot know how much time it will take 
to sort out those relationships or what the costs involved would be if 
it is to be done in a proper and considerate manner. Those are NOT 
considerations which necessarily enter into the calculation of profit 
margins in a business. If you give a commercial organisation a forced 
choice of making a loss by handling your case properly, or making a 
profit by cutting corners regardless of damage to others, how would 
you expect it to choose? How would you choose if it was your sole 
source of income? There are some things which should not be run as a 
business. In my opinion, adoption searching is one of them.

Don

in article 46001877$0$8735$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader02.plus.net, Jed B at
j.brough@net......co wrote on 20/3/07 17:23:

> Hello All,
> 
> I'm searching for my birth parents particularly my birth mother as I was
> adopted shortly after my birth.  I was born in October 1965 and was adopted
> in April 1966.  I currently have in my possession copies of my original
> birth certificate, my birth mothers birth certificate and my adoption
> certificate.
> 
> I was born in Sheffield and my birth mother was born in Putney in 1942.  My
> birth father and his occupation have been omitted on my original birth
> certificate thus making it impossible to find out who he is/was without
> firstly contacting my birth mother.
> 
> I wish to register myself with either a government or non governmental
> adoption contact register that specialises in tracing birth parents.
> 
> Can I ask for recommendations please.
> 
> Thanks for your time,
> 
> Jed 
> 
> 


Hello Jed

The fact that your father's name does not appear on your birth certificate
does not mean that it does not appear on other documents in your adoption
files.

If you were adopted through an adoption agency ask them or whichever agency
now holds their records for access to your adoption file.

If there was no adoption agency involved, apply to the court where you were
adopted for access to its file on your adoption.

Also ask the Local Authority in the area where you were adopted if they hold
a copy of your Guardian ad Litem report, which may mention your father. They
may also hold Visiting Officer's notes and reports which could possibly
mention him.

You may have to be very firm with the social workers there. You may want to
enlist the help of an Adoption Support Agency but they do have to charge
fees. AAA-Norcap has its own contact register as well http://norcap.org
There are many websites where you can leave details, you need to be quite
wary of some them make sure to Google first find out what comments others
have made. There are some real rogue organisations around still
unfortunately, despite the new government regulations on who can undertake
such work!


Best of luck, you'll need it


Robin

*

"Jed B" <j.brough@net......co> wrote in message 
news:46001877$0$8735$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader02.plus.net...
> Hello All,
>
> I'm searching for my birth parents particularly my birth mother as I 
> was adopted shortly after my birth.  I was born in October 1965 and 
> was adopted in April 1966.  I currently have in my possession copies 
> of my original birth certificate, my birth mothers birth certificate 
> and my adoption certificate.
>
> I was born in Sheffield and my birth mother was born in Putney in 
> 1942.  My birth father and his occupation have been omitted on my 
> original birth certificate thus making it impossible to find out who 
> he is/was without firstly contacting my birth mother.

And you may not have contact because she does not want it. Or even if 
she does allow contact she may not be able to tell you who your father 
was. And even if she could tell you who your father was she may choose 
not to do so for reasons which appear good to her. And even if she 
tells you it does not follow that you can contact him.

>
> I wish to register myself with either a government or non 
> governmental adoption contact register that specialises in tracing 
> birth parents.
>
> Can I ask for recommendations please.
>
NORCAP. Get their bumf, read it, and do what it says. That 
recommendation is unbiased. I am not a member or supporter of NORCAP 
and never will be. My speciality is in post-adoption problems which 
arise when the system has broken down and lives are at stake. The 
first move must always be to try the system. If it works, and it does 
for almost all cases where it can work, the problem is solved and what 
I do would be an unnecessary nuisance. Furthermore I take up cases or 
don't take them up at my sole discretion, and for any case I take up 
there are no charges for my time or expenses. I take up very few cases 
and they are almost always to do with some little hitler who has made 
a mistake out of ignorance and who then abuses power to cover up that 
mistake regardless of any damage done to individual people. In other 
words the cases are not about adoption and searching as such. They are 
about injustice. They take a lot of time and expense, and that is only 
going to be incurred for people who have made the fullest honest 
attempt to use the system provided. If NORCAP turn you down for good 
reason there is no point coming to me. It is a recognised body and 
complies with the law.

That some of the law is exceedingly stupid is another issue. That is 
about politics and long-term changes. For individuals in the here and 
now you comply with the law 'as is' and deal only with bodies which 
also comply with it 'as is'.

There is an alternative approach. You can go to a commercial firm, 
which may or may not play ducks and drakes with the law. If you do, 
kindly don't come back to the newsgroup with tales of how you have 
been ripped off and how it all went wrong, should such things happen. 
I for one will have no sympathy with you because all my attention will 
be reserved for those people you and your hired guns have damaged. 
Adoption searching does NOT involve just two people. At the beginning 
you don't know how many people it involves or how delicate their 
existing situations may be. You cannot know how much time it will take 
to sort out those relationships or what the costs involved would be if 
it is to be done in a proper and considerate manner. Those are NOT 
considerations which necessarily enter into the calculation of profit 
margins in a business. If you give a commercial organisation a forced 
choice of making a loss by handling your case properly, or making a 
profit by cutting corners regardless of damage to others, how would 
you expect it to choose? How would you choose if it was your sole 
source of income? There are some things which should not be run as a 
business. In my opinion, adoption searching is one of them.

Don

in article 46001877$0$8735$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader02.plus.net, Jed B at
j.brough@net......co wrote on 20/3/07 17:23:

> Hello All,
> 
> I'm searching for my birth parents particularly my birth mother as I was
> adopted shortly after my birth.  I was born in October 1965 and was adopted
> in April 1966.  I currently have in my possession copies of my original
> birth certificate, my birth mothers birth certificate and my adoption
> certificate.
> 
> I was born in Sheffield and my birth mother was born in Putney in 1942.  My
> birth father and his occupation have been omitted on my original birth
> certificate thus making it impossible to find out who he is/was without
> firstly contacting my birth mother.
> 
> I wish to register myself with either a government or non governmental
> adoption contact register that specialises in tracing birth parents.
> 
> Can I ask for recommendations please.
> 
> Thanks for your time,
> 
> Jed 
> 
> 


Hello Jed

The fact that your father's name does not appear on your birth certificate
does not mean that it does not appear on other documents in your adoption
files.

If you were adopted through an adoption agency ask them or whichever agency
now holds their records for access to your adoption file.

If there was no adoption agency involved, apply to the court where you were
adopted for access to its file on your adoption.

Also ask the Local Authority in the area where you were adopted if they hold
a copy of your Guardian ad Litem report, which may mention your father. They
may also hold Visiting Officer's notes and reports which could possibly
mention him.

You may have to be very firm with the social workers there. You may want to
enlist the help of an Adoption Support Agency but they do have to charge
fees. AAA-Norcap has its own contact register as well http://norcap.org
There are many websites where you can leave details, you need to be quite
wary of some them make sure to Google first find out what comments others
have made. There are some real rogue organisations around still
unfortunately, despite the new government regulations on who can undertake
such work!


Best of luck, you'll need it


Robin

*

"Jed B" <j.brough@net......co> wrote in message 
news:46001877$0$8735$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader02.plus.net...
> Hello All,
>
> I'm searching for my birth parents particularly my birth mother as I 
> was adopted shortly after my birth.  I was born in October 1965 and 
> was adopted in April 1966.  I currently have in my possession copies 
> of my original birth certificate, my birth mothers birth certificate 
> and my adoption certificate.
>
> I was born in Sheffield and my birth mother was born in Putney in 
> 1942.  My birth father and his occupation have been omitted on my 
> original birth certificate thus making it impossible to find out who 
> he is/was without firstly contacting my birth mother.

And you may not have contact because she does not want it. Or even if 
she does allow contact she may not be able to tell you who your father 
was. And even if she could tell you who your father was she may choose 
not to do so for reasons which appear good to her. And even if she 
tells you it does not follow that you can contact him.

>
> I wish to register myself with either a government or non 
> governmental adoption contact register that specialises in tracing 
> birth parents.
>
> Can I ask for recommendations please.
>
NORCAP. Get their bumf, read it, and do what it says. That 
recommendation is unbiased. I am not a member or supporter of NORCAP 
and never will be. My speciality is in post-adoption problems which 
arise when the system has broken down and lives are at stake. The 
first move must always be to try the system. If it works, and it does 
for almost all cases where it can work, the problem is solved and what 
I do would be an unnecessary nuisance. Furthermore I take up cases or 
don't take them up at my sole discretion, and for any case I take up 
there are no charges for my time or expenses. I take up very few cases 
and they are almost always to do with some little hitler who has made 
a mistake out of ignorance and who then abuses power to cover up that 
mistake regardless of any damage done to individual people. In other 
words the cases are not about adoption and searching as such. They are 
about injustice. They take a lot of time and expense, and that is only 
going to be incurred for people who have made the fullest honest 
attempt to use the system provided. If NORCAP turn you down for good 
reason there is no point coming to me. It is a recognised body and 
complies with the law.

That some of the law is exceedingly stupid is another issue. That is 
about politics and long-term changes. For individuals in the here and 
now you comply with the law 'as is' and deal only with bodies which 
also comply with it 'as is'.

There is an alternative approach. You can go to a commercial firm, 
which may or may not play ducks and drakes with the law. If you do, 
kindly don't come back to the newsgroup with tales of how you have 
been ripped off and how it all went wrong, should such things happen. 
I for one will have no sympathy with you because all my attention will 
be reserved for those people you and your hired guns have damaged. 
Adoption searching does NOT involve just two people. At the beginning 
you don't know how many people it involves or how delicate their 
existing situations may be. You cannot know how much time it will take 
to sort out those relationships or what the costs involved would be if 
it is to be done in a proper and considerate manner. Those are NOT 
considerations which necessarily enter into the calculation of profit 
margins in a business. If you give a commercial organisation a forced 
choice of making a loss by handling your case properly, or making a 
profit by cutting corners regardless of damage to others, how would 
you expect it to choose? How would you choose if it was your sole 
source of income? There are some things which should not be run as a 
business. In my opinion, adoption searching is one of them.

Don

in article 46001877$0$8735$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader02.plus.net, Jed B at
j.brough@net......co wrote on 20/3/07 17:23:

> Hello All,
> 
> I'm searching for my birth parents particularly my birth mother as I was
> adopted shortly after my birth.  I was born in October 1965 and was adopted
> in April 1966.  I currently have in my possession copies of my original
> birth certificate, my birth mothers birth certificate and my adoption
> certificate.
> 
> I was born in Sheffield and my birth mother was born in Putney in 1942.  My
> birth father and his occupation have been omitted on my original birth
> certificate thus making it impossible to find out who he is/was without
> firstly contacting my birth mother.
> 
> I wish to register myself with either a government or non governmental
> adoption contact register that specialises in tracing birth parents.
> 
> Can I ask for recommendations please.
> 
> Thanks for your time,
> 
> Jed 
> 
> 


Hello Jed

The fact that your father's name does not appear on your birth certificate
does not mean that it does not appear on other documents in your adoption
files.

If you were adopted through an adoption agency ask them or whichever agency
now holds their records for access to your adoption file.

If there was no adoption agency involved, apply to the court where you were
adopted for access to its file on your adoption.

Also ask the Local Authority in the area where you were adopted if they hold
a copy of your Guardian ad Litem report, which may mention your father. They
may also hold Visiting Officer's notes and reports which could possibly
mention him.

You may have to be very firm with the social workers there. You may want to
enlist the help of an Adoption Support Agency but they do have to charge
fees. AAA-Norcap has its own contact register as well http://norcap.org
There are many websites where you can leave details, you need to be quite
wary of some them make sure to Google first find out what comments others
have made. There are some real rogue organisations around still
unfortunately, despite the new government regulations on who can undertake
such work!


Best of luck, you'll need it


Robin

*

"Jed B" <j.brough@net......co> wrote in message 
news:46001877$0$8735$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader02.plus.net...
> Hello All,
>
> I'm searching for my birth parents particularly my birth mother as I 
> was adopted shortly after my birth.  I was born in October 1965 and 
> was adopted in April 1966.  I currently have in my possession copies 
> of my original birth certificate, my birth mothers birth certificate 
> and my adoption certificate.
>
> I was born in Sheffield and my birth mother was born in Putney in 
> 1942.  My birth father and his occupation have been omitted on my 
> original birth certificate thus making it impossible to find out who 
> he is/was without firstly contacting my birth mother.

And you may not have contact because she does not want it. Or even if 
she does allow contact she may not be able to tell you who your father 
was. And even if she could tell you who your father was she may choose 
not to do so for reasons which appear good to her. And even if she 
tells you it does not follow that you can contact him.

>
> I wish to register myself with either a government or non 
> governmental adoption contact register that specialises in tracing 
> birth parents.
>
> Can I ask for recommendations please.
>
NORCAP. Get their bumf, read it, and do what it says. That 
recommendation is unbiased. I am not a member or supporter of NORCAP 
and never will be. My speciality is in post-adoption problems which 
arise when the system has broken down and lives are at stake. The 
first move must always be to try the system. If it works, and it does 
for almost all cases where it can work, the problem is solved and what 
I do would be an unnecessary nuisance. Furthermore I take up cases or 
don't take them up at my sole discretion, and for any case I take up 
there are no charges for my time or expenses. I take up very few cases 
and they are almost always to do with some little hitler who has made 
a mistake out of ignorance and who then abuses power to cover up that 
mistake regardless of any damage done to individual people. In other 
words the cases are not about adoption and searching as such. They are 
about injustice. They take a lot of time and expense, and that is only 
going to be incurred for people who have made the fullest honest 
attempt to use the system provided. If NORCAP turn you down for good 
reason there is no point coming to me. It is a recognised body and 
complies with the law.

That some of the law is exceedingly stupid is another issue. That is 
about politics and long-term changes. For individuals in the here and 
now you comply with the law 'as is' and deal only with bodies which 
also comply with it 'as is'.

There is an alternative approach. You can go to a commercial firm, 
which may or may not play ducks and drakes with the law. If you do, 
kindly don't come back to the newsgroup with tales of how you have 
been ripped off and how it all went wrong, should such things happen. 
I for one will have no sympathy with you because all my attention will 
be reserved for those people you and your hired guns have damaged. 
Adoption searching does NOT involve just two people. At the beginning 
you don't know how many people it involves or how delicate their 
existing situations may be. You cannot know how much time it will take 
to sort out those relationships or what the costs involved would be if 
it is to be done in a proper and considerate manner. Those are NOT 
considerations which necessarily enter into the calculation of profit 
margins in a business. If you give a commercial organisation a forced 
choice of making a loss by handling your case properly, or making a 
profit by cutting corners regardless of damage to others, how would 
you expect it to choose? How would you choose if it was your sole 
source of income? There are some things which should not be run as a 
business. In my opinion, adoption searching is one of them.

Don

in article 46001877$0$8735$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader02.plus.net, Jed B at
j.brough@net......co wrote on 20/3/07 17:23:

> Hello All,
> 
> I'm searching for my birth parents particularly my birth mother as I was
> adopted shortly after my birth.  I was born in October 1965 and was adopted
> in April 1966.  I currently have in my possession copies of my original
> birth certificate, my birth mothers birth certificate and my adoption
> certificate.
> 
> I was born in Sheffield and my birth mother was born in Putney in 1942.  My
> birth father and his occupation have been omitted on my original birth
> certificate thus making it impossible to find out who he is/was without
> firstly contacting my birth mother.
> 
> I wish to register myself with either a government or non governmental
> adoption contact register that specialises in tracing birth parents.
> 
> Can I ask for recommendations please.
> 
> Thanks for your time,
> 
> Jed 
> 
> 


Hello Jed

The fact that your father's name does not appear on your birth certificate
does not mean that it does not appear on other documents in your adoption
files.

If you were adopted through an adoption agency ask them or whichever agency
now holds their records for access to your adoption file.

If there was no adoption agency involved, apply to the court where you were
adopted for access to its file on your adoption.

Also ask the Local Authority in the area where you were adopted if they hold
a copy of your Guardian ad Litem report, which may mention your father. They
may also hold Visiting Officer's notes and reports which could possibly
mention him.

You may have to be very firm with the social workers there. You may want to
enlist the help of an Adoption Support Agency but they do have to charge
fees. AAA-Norcap has its own contact register as well http://norcap.org
There are many websites where you can leave details, you need to be quite
wary of some them make sure to Google first find out what comments others
have made. There are some real rogue organisations around still
unfortunately, despite the new government regulations on who can undertake
such work!


Best of luck, you'll need it


Robin

*

"Jed B" <j.brough@net......co> wrote in message 
news:46001877$0$8735$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader02.plus.net...
> Hello All,
>
> I'm searching for my birth parents particularly my birth mother as I 
> was adopted shortly after my birth.  I was born in October 1965 and 
> was adopted in April 1966.  I currently have in my possession copies 
> of my original birth certificate, my birth mothers birth certificate 
> and my adoption certificate.
>
> I was born in Sheffield and my birth mother was born in Putney in 
> 1942.  My birth father and his occupation have been omitted on my 
> original birth certificate thus making it impossible to find out who 
> he is/was without firstly contacting my birth mother.

And you may not have contact because she does not want it. Or even if 
she does allow contact she may not be able to tell you who your father 
was. And even if she could tell you who your father was she may choose 
not to do so for reasons which appear good to her. And even if she 
tells you it does not follow that you can contact him.

>
> I wish to register myself with either a government or non 
> governmental adoption contact register that specialises in tracing 
> birth parents.
>
> Can I ask for recommendations please.
>
NORCAP. Get their bumf, read it, and do what it says. That 
recommendation is unbiased. I am not a member or supporter of NORCAP 
and never will be. My speciality is in post-adoption problems which 
arise when the system has broken down and lives are at stake. The 
first move must always be to try the system. If it works, and it does 
for almost all cases where it can work, the problem is solved and what 
I do would be an unnecessary nuisance. Furthermore I take up cases or 
don't take them up at my sole discretion, and for any case I take up 
there are no charges for my time or expenses. I take up very few cases 
and they are almost always to do with some little hitler who has made 
a mistake out of ignorance and who then abuses power to cover up that 
mistake regardless of any damage done to individual people. In other 
words the cases are not about adoption and searching as such. They are 
about injustice. They take a lot of time and expense, and that is only 
going to be incurred for people who have made the fullest honest 
attempt to use the system provided. If NORCAP turn you down for good 
reason there is no point coming to me. It is a recognised body and 
complies with the law.

That some of the law is exceedingly stupid is another issue. That is 
about politics and long-term changes. For individuals in the here and 
now you comply with the law 'as is' and deal only with bodies which 
also comply with it 'as is'.

There is an alternative approach. You can go to a commercial firm, 
which may or may not play ducks and drakes with the law. If you do, 
kindly don't come back to the newsgroup with tales of how you have 
been ripped off and how it all went wrong, should such things happen. 
I for one will have no sympathy with you because all my attention will 
be reserved for those people you and your hired guns have damaged. 
Adoption searching does NOT involve just two people. At the beginning 
you don't know how many people it involves or how delicate their 
existing situations may be. You cannot know how much time it will take 
to sort out those relationships or what the costs involved would be if 
it is to be done in a proper and considerate manner. Those are NOT 
considerations which necessarily enter into the calculation of profit 
margins in a business. If you give a commercial organisation a forced 
choice of making a loss by handling your case properly, or making a 
profit by cutting corners regardless of damage to others, how would 
you expect it to choose? How would you choose if it was your sole 
source of income? There are some things which should not be run as a 
business. In my opinion, adoption searching is one of them.

Don

in article 46001877$0$8735$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader02.plus.net, Jed B at
j.brough@net......co wrote on 20/3/07 17:23:

> Hello All,
> 
> I'm searching for my birth parents particularly my birth mother as I was
> adopted shortly after my birth.  I was born in October 1965 and was adopted
> in April 1966.  I currently have in my possession copies of my original
> birth certificate, my birth mothers birth certificate and my adoption
> certificate.
> 
> I was born in Sheffield and my birth mother was born in Putney in 1942.  My
> birth father and his occupation have been omitted on my original birth
> certificate thus making it impossible to find out who he is/was without
> firstly contacting my birth mother.
> 
> I wish to register myself with either a government or non governmental
> adoption contact register that specialises in tracing birth parents.
> 
> Can I ask for recommendations please.
> 
> Thanks for your time,
> 
> Jed 
> 
> 


Hello Jed

The fact that your father's name does not appear on your birth certificate
does not mean that it does not appear on other documents in your adoption
files.

If you were adopted through an adoption agency ask them or whichever agency
now holds their records for access to your adoption file.

If there was no adoption agency involved, apply to the court where you were
adopted for access to its file on your adoption.

Also ask the Local Authority in the area where you were adopted if they hold
a copy of your Guardian ad Litem report, which may mention your father. They
may also hold Visiting Officer's notes and reports which could possibly
mention him.

You may have to be very firm with the social workers there. You may want to
enlist the help of an Adoption Support Agency but they do have to charge
fees. AAA-Norcap has its own contact register as well http://norcap.org
There are many websites where you can leave details, you need to be quite
wary of some them make sure to Google first find out what comments others
have made. There are some real rogue organisations around still
unfortunately, despite the new government regulations on who can undertake
such work!


Best of luck, you'll need it


Robin

*

"Jed B" <j.brough@net......co> wrote in message 
news:46001877$0$8735$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader02.plus.net...
> Hello All,
>
> I'm searching for my birth parents particularly my birth mother as I 
> was adopted shortly after my birth.  I was born in October 1965 and 
> was adopted in April 1966.  I currently have in my possession copies 
> of my original birth certificate, my birth mothers birth certificate 
> and my adoption certificate.
>
> I was born in Sheffield and my birth mother was born in Putney in 
> 1942.  My birth father and his occupation have been omitted on my 
> original birth certificate thus making it impossible to find out who 
> he is/was without firstly contacting my birth mother.

And you may not have contact because she does not want it. Or even if 
she does allow contact she may not be able to tell you who your father 
was. And even if she could tell you who your father was she may choose 
not to do so for reasons which appear good to her. And even if she 
tells you it does not follow that you can contact him.

>
> I wish to register myself with either a government or non 
> governmental adoption contact register that specialises in tracing 
> birth parents.
>
> Can I ask for recommendations please.
>
NORCAP. Get their bumf, read it, and do what it says. That 
recommendation is unbiased. I am not a member or supporter of NORCAP 
and never will be. My speciality is in post-adoption problems which 
arise when the system has broken down and lives are at stake. The 
first move must always be to try the system. If it works, and it does 
for almost all cases where it can work, the problem is solved and what 
I do would be an unnecessary nuisance. Furthermore I take up cases or 
don't take them up at my sole discretion, and for any case I take up 
there are no charges for my time or expenses. I take up very few cases 
and they are almost always to do with some little hitler who has made 
a mistake out of ignorance and who then abuses power to cover up that 
mistake regardless of any damage done to individual people. In other 
words the cases are not about adoption and searching as such. They are 
about injustice. They take a lot of time and expense, and that is only 
going to be incurred for people who have made the fullest honest 
attempt to use the system provided. If NORCAP turn you down for good 
reason there is no point coming to me. It is a recognised body and 
complies with the law.

That some of the law is exceedingly stupid is another issue. That is 
about politics and long-term changes. For individuals in the here and 
now you comply with the law 'as is' and deal only with bodies which 
also comply with it 'as is'.

There is an alternative approach. You can go to a commercial firm, 
which may or may not play ducks and drakes with the law. If you do, 
kindly don't come back to the newsgroup with tales of how you have 
been ripped off and how it all went wrong, should such things happen. 
I for one will have no sympathy with you because all my attention will 
be reserved for those people you and your hired guns have damaged. 
Adoption searching does NOT involve just two people. At the beginning 
you don't know how many people it involves or how delicate their 
existing situations may be. You cannot know how much time it will take 
to sort out those relationships or what the costs involved would be if 
it is to be done in a proper and considerate manner. Those are NOT 
considerations which necessarily enter into the calculation of profit 
margins in a business. If you give a commercial organisation a forced 
choice of making a loss by handling your case properly, or making a 
profit by cutting corners regardless of damage to others, how would 
you expect it to choose? How would you choose if it was your sole 
source of income? There are some things which should not be run as a 
business. In my opinion, adoption searching is one of them.

Don

in article 46001877$0$8735$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader02.plus.net, Jed B at
j.brough@net......co wrote on 20/3/07 17:23:

> Hello All,
> 
> I'm searching for my birth parents particularly my birth mother as I was
> adopted shortly after my birth.  I was born in October 1965 and was adopted
> in April 1966.  I currently have in my possession copies of my original
> birth certificate, my birth mothers birth certificate and my adoption
> certificate.
> 
> I was born in Sheffield and my birth mother was born in Putney in 1942.  My
> birth father and his occupation have been omitted on my original birth
> certificate thus making it impossible to find out who he is/was without
> firstly contacting my birth mother.
> 
> I wish to register myself with either a government or non governmental
> adoption contact register that specialises in tracing birth parents.
> 
> Can I ask for recommendations please.
> 
> Thanks for your time,
> 
> Jed 
> 
> 


Hello Jed

The fact that your father's name does not appear on your birth certificate
does not mean that it does not appear on other documents in your adoption
files.

If you were adopted through an adoption agency ask them or whichever agency
now holds their records for access to your adoption file.

If there was no adoption agency involved, apply to the court where you were
adopted for access to its file on your adoption.

Also ask the Local Authority in the area where you were adopted if they hold
a copy of your Guardian ad Litem report, which may mention your father. They
may also hold Visiting Officer's notes and reports which could possibly
mention him.

You may have to be very firm with the social workers there. You may want to
enlist the help of an Adoption Support Agency but they do have to charge
fees. AAA-Norcap has its own contact register as well http://norcap.org
There are many websites where you can leave details, you need to be quite
wary of some them make sure to Google first find out what comments others
have made. There are some real rogue organisations around still
unfortunately, despite the new government regulations on who can undertake
such work!


Best of luck, you'll need it


Robin

*

"Jed B" <j.brough@net......co> wrote in message 
news:46001877$0$8735$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader02.plus.net...
> Hello All,
>
> I'm searching for my birth parents particularly my birth mother as I 
> was adopted shortly after my birth.  I was born in October 1965 and 
> was adopted in April 1966.  I currently have in my possession copies 
> of my original birth certificate, my birth mothers birth certificate 
> and my adoption certificate.
>
> I was born in Sheffield and my birth mother was born in Putney in 
> 1942.  My birth father and his occupation have been omitted on my 
> original birth certificate thus making it impossible to find out who 
> he is/was without firstly contacting my birth mother.

And you may not have contact because she does not want it. Or even if 
she does allow contact she may not be able to tell you who your father 
was. And even if she could tell you who your father was she may choose 
not to do so for reasons which appear good to her. And even if she 
tells you it does not follow that you can contact him.

>
> I wish to register myself with either a government or non 
> governmental adoption contact register that specialises in tracing 
> birth parents.
>
> Can I ask for recommendations please.
>
NORCAP. Get their bumf, read it, and do what it says. That 
recommendation is unbiased. I am not a member or supporter of NORCAP 
and never will be. My speciality is in post-adoption problems which 
arise when the system has broken down and lives are at stake. The 
first move must always be to try the system. If it works, and it does 
for almost all cases where it can work, the problem is solved and what 
I do would be an unnecessary nuisance. Furthermore I take up cases or 
don't take them up at my sole discretion, and for any case I take up 
there are no charges for my time or expenses. I take up very few cases 
and they are almost always to do with some little hitler who has made 
a mistake out of ignorance and who then abuses power to cover up that 
mistake regardless of any damage done to individual people. In other 
words the cases are not about adoption and searching as such. They are 
about injustice. They take a lot of time and expense, and that is only 
going to be incurred for people who have made the fullest honest 
attempt to use the system provided. If NORCAP turn you down for good 
reason there is no point coming to me. It is a recognised body and 
complies with the law.

That some of the law is exceedingly stupid is another issue. That is 
about politics and long-term changes. For individuals in the here and 
now you comply with the law 'as is' and deal only with bodies which 
also comply with it 'as is'.

There is an alternative approach. You can go to a commercial firm, 
which may or may not play ducks and drakes with the law. If you do, 
kindly don't come back to the newsgroup with tales of how you have 
been ripped off and how it all went wrong, should such things happen. 
I for one will have no sympathy with you because all my attention will 
be reserved for those people you and your hired guns have damaged. 
Adoption searching does NOT involve just two people. At the beginning 
you don't know how many people it involves or how delicate their 
existing situations may be. You cannot know how much time it will take 
to sort out those relationships or what the costs involved would be if 
it is to be done in a proper and considerate manner. Those are NOT 
considerations which necessarily enter into the calculation of profit 
margins in a business. If you give a commercial organisation a forced 
choice of making a loss by handling your case properly, or making a 
profit by cutting corners regardless of damage to others, how would 
you expect it to choose? How would you choose if it was your sole 
source of income? There are some things which should not be run as a 
business. In my opinion, adoption searching is one of them.

Don

in article 46001877$0$8735$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader02.plus.net, Jed B at
j.brough@net......co wrote on 20/3/07 17:23:

> Hello All,
> 
> I'm searching for my birth parents particularly my birth mother as I was
> adopted shortly after my birth.  I was born in October 1965 and was adopted
> in April 1966.  I currently have in my possession copies of my original
> birth certificate, my birth mothers birth certificate and my adoption
> certificate.
> 
> I was born in Sheffield and my birth mother was born in Putney in 1942.  My
> birth father and his occupation have been omitted on my original birth
> certificate thus making it impossible to find out who he is/was without
> firstly contacting my birth mother.
> 
> I wish to register myself with either a government or non governmental
> adoption contact register that specialises in tracing birth parents.
> 
> Can I ask for recommendations please.
> 
> Thanks for your time,
> 
> Jed 
> 
> 


Hello Jed

The fact that your father's name does not appear on your birth certificate
does not mean that it does not appear on other documents in your adoption
files.

If you were adopted through an adoption agency ask them or whichever agency
now holds their records for access to your adoption file.

If there was no adoption agency involved, apply to the court where you were
adopted for access to its file on your adoption.

Also ask the Local Authority in the area where you were adopted if they hold
a copy of your Guardian ad Litem report, which may mention your father. They
may also hold Visiting Officer's notes and reports which could possibly
mention him.

You may have to be very firm with the social workers there. You may want to
enlist the help of an Adoption Support Agency but they do have to charge
fees. AAA-Norcap has its own contact register as well http://norcap.org
There are many websites where you can leave details, you need to be quite
wary of some them make sure to Google first find out what comments others
have made. There are some real rogue organisations around still
unfortunately, despite the new government regulations on who can undertake
such work!


Best of luck, you'll need it


Robin

*

"Jed B" <j.brough@net......co> wrote in message 
news:46001877$0$8735$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader02.plus.net...
> Hello All,
>
> I'm searching for my birth parents particularly my birth mother as I 
> was adopted shortly after my birth.  I was born in October 1965 and 
> was adopted in April 1966.  I currently have in my possession copies 
> of my original birth certificate, my birth mothers birth certificate 
> and my adoption certificate.
>
> I was born in Sheffield and my birth mother was born in Putney in 
> 1942.  My birth father and his occupation have been omitted on my 
> original birth certificate thus making it impossible to find out who 
> he is/was without firstly contacting my birth mother.

And you may not have contact because she does not want it. Or even if 
she does allow contact she may not be able to tell you who your father 
was. And even if she could tell you who your father was she may choose 
not to do so for reasons which appear good to her. And even if she 
tells you it does not follow that you can contact him.

>
> I wish to register myself with either a government or non 
> governmental adoption contact register that specialises in tracing 
> birth parents.
>
> Can I ask for recommendations please.
>
NORCAP. Get their bumf, read it, and do what it says. That 
recommendation is unbiased. I am not a member or supporter of NORCAP 
and never will be. My speciality is in post-adoption problems which 
arise when the system has broken down and lives are at stake. The 
first move must always be to try the system. If it works, and it does 
for almost all cases where it can work, the problem is solved and what 
I do would be an unnecessary nuisance. Furthermore I take up cases or 
don't take them up at my sole discretion, and for any case I take up 
there are no charges for my time or expenses. I take up very few cases 
and they are almost always to do with some little hitler who has made 
a mistake out of ignorance and who then abuses power to cover up that 
mistake regardless of any damage done to individual people. In other 
words the cases are not about adoption and searching as such. They are 
about injustice. They take a lot of time and expense, and that is only 
going to be incurred for people who have made the fullest honest 
attempt to use the system provided. If NORCAP turn you down for good 
reason there is no point coming to me. It is a recognised body and 
complies with the law.

That some of the law is exceedingly stupid is another issue. That is 
about politics and long-term changes. For individuals in the here and 
now you comply with the law 'as is' and deal only with bodies which 
also comply with it 'as is'.

There is an alternative approach. You can go to a commercial firm, 
which may or may not play ducks and drakes with the law. If you do, 
kindly don't come back to the newsgroup with tales of how you have 
been ripped off and how it all went wrong, should such things happen. 
I for one will have no sympathy with you because all my attention will 
be reserved for those people you and your hired guns have damaged. 
Adoption searching does NOT involve just two people. At the beginning 
you don't know how many people it involves or how delicate their 
existing situations may be. You cannot know how much time it will take 
to sort out those relationships or what the costs involved would be if 
it is to be done in a proper and considerate manner. Those are NOT 
considerations which necessarily enter into the calculation of profit 
margins in a business. If you give a commercial organisation a forced 
choice of making a loss by handling your case properly, or making a 
profit by cutting corners regardless of damage to others, how would 
you expect it to choose? How would you choose if it was your sole 
source of income? There are some things which should not be run as a 
business. In my opinion, adoption searching is one of them.

Don

in article 46001877$0$8735$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader02.plus.net, Jed B at
j.brough@net......co wrote on 20/3/07 17:23:

> Hello All,
> 
> I'm searching for my birth parents particularly my birth mother as I was
> adopted shortly after my birth.  I was born in October 1965 and was adopted
> in April 1966.  I currently have in my possession copies of my original
> birth certificate, my birth mothers birth certificate and my adoption
> certificate.
> 
> I was born in Sheffield and my birth mother was born in Putney in 1942.  My
> birth father and his occupation have been omitted on my original birth
> certificate thus making it impossible to find out who he is/was without
> firstly contacting my birth mother.
> 
> I wish to register myself with either a government or non governmental
> adoption contact register that specialises in tracing birth parents.
> 
> Can I ask for recommendations please.
> 
> Thanks for your time,
> 
> Jed 
> 
> 


Hello Jed

The fact that your father's name does not appear on your birth certificate
does not mean that it does not appear on other documents in your adoption
files.

If you were adopted through an adoption agency ask them or whichever agency
now holds their records for access to your adoption file.

If there was no adoption agency involved, apply to the court where you were
adopted for access to its file on your adoption.

Also ask the Local Authority in the area where you were adopted if they hold
a copy of your Guardian ad Litem report, which may mention your father. They
may also hold Visiting Officer's notes and reports which could possibly
mention him.

You may have to be very firm with the social workers there. You may want to
enlist the help of an Adoption Support Agency but they do have to charge
fees. AAA-Norcap has its own contact register as well http://norcap.org
There are many websites where you can leave details, you need to be quite
wary of some them make sure to Google first find out what comments others
have made. There are some real rogue organisations around still
unfortunately, despite the new government regulations on who can undertake
such work!


Best of luck, you'll need it


Robin

*

"Jed B" <j.brough@net......co> wrote in message 
news:46001877$0$8735$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader02.plus.net...
> Hello All,
>
> I'm searching for my birth parents particularly my birth mother as I 
> was adopted shortly after my birth.  I was born in October 1965 and 
> was adopted in April 1966.  I currently have in my possession copies 
> of my original birth certificate, my birth mothers birth certificate 
> and my adoption certificate.
>
> I was born in Sheffield and my birth mother was born in Putney in 
> 1942.  My birth father and his occupation have been omitted on my 
> original birth certificate thus making it impossible to find out who 
> he is/was without firstly contacting my birth mother.

And you may not have contact because she does not want it. Or even if 
she does allow contact she may not be able to tell you who your father 
was. And even if she could tell you who your father was she may choose 
not to do so for reasons which appear good to her. And even if she 
tells you it does not follow that you can contact him.

>
> I wish to register myself with either a government or non 
> governmental adoption contact register that specialises in tracing 
> birth parents.
>
> Can I ask for recommendations please.
>
NORCAP. Get their bumf, read it, and do what it says. That 
recommendation is unbiased. I am not a member or supporter of NORCAP 
and never will be. My speciality is in post-adoption problems which 
arise when the system has broken down and lives are at stake. The 
first move must always be to try the system. If it works, and it does 
for almost all cases where it can work, the problem is solved and what 
I do would be an unnecessary nuisance. Furthermore I take up cases or 
don't take them up at my sole discretion, and for any case I take up 
there are no charges for my time or expenses. I take up very few cases 
and they are almost always to do with some little hitler who has made 
a mistake out of ignorance and who then abuses power to cover up that 
mistake regardless of any damage done to individual people. In other 
words the cases are not about adoption and searching as such. They are 
about injustice. They take a lot of time and expense, and that is only 
going to be incurred for people who have made the fullest honest 
attempt to use the system provided. If NORCAP turn you down for good 
reason there is no point coming to me. It is a recognised body and 
complies with the law.

That some of the law is exceedingly stupid is another issue. That is 
about politics and long-term changes. For individuals in the here and 
now you comply with the law 'as is' and deal only with bodies which 
also comply with it 'as is'.

There is an alternative approach. You can go to a commercial firm, 
which may or may not play ducks and drakes with the law. If you do, 
kindly don't come back to the newsgroup with tales of how you have 
been ripped off and how it all went wrong, should such things happen. 
I for one will have no sympathy with you because all my attention will 
be reserved for those people you and your hired guns have damaged. 
Adoption searching does NOT involve just two people. At the beginning 
you don't know how many people it involves or how delicate their 
existing situations may be. You cannot know how much time it will take 
to sort out those relationships or what the costs involved would be if 
it is to be done in a proper and considerate manner. Those are NOT 
considerations which necessarily enter into the calculation of profit 
margins in a business. If you give a commercial organisation a forced 
choice of making a loss by handling your case properly, or making a 
profit by cutting corners regardless of damage to others, how would 
you expect it to choose? How would you choose if it was your sole 
source of income? There are some things which should not be run as a 
business. In my opinion, adoption searching is one of them.

Don

in article 46001877$0$8735$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader02.plus.net, Jed B at
j.brough@net......co wrote on 20/3/07 17:23:

> Hello All,
> 
> I'm searching for my birth parents particularly my birth mother as I was
> adopted shortly after my birth.  I was born in October 1965 and was adopted
> in April 1966.  I currently have in my possession copies of my original
> birth certificate, my birth mothers birth certificate and my adoption
> certificate.
> 
> I was born in Sheffield and my birth mother was born in Putney in 1942.  My
> birth father and his occupation have been omitted on my original birth
> certificate thus making it impossible to find out who he is/was without
> firstly contacting my birth mother.
> 
> I wish to register myself with either a government or non governmental
> adoption contact register that specialises in tracing birth parents.
> 
> Can I ask for recommendations please.
> 
> Thanks for your time,
> 
> Jed 
> 
> 


Hello Jed

The fact that your father's name does not appear on your birth certificate
does not mean that it does not appear on other documents in your adoption
files.

If you were adopted through an adoption agency ask them or whichever agency
now holds their records for access to your adoption file.

If there was no adoption agency involved, apply to the court where you were
adopted for access to its file on your adoption.

Also ask the Local Authority in the area where you were adopted if they hold
a copy of your Guardian ad Litem report, which may mention your father. They
may also hold Visiting Officer's notes and reports which could possibly
mention him.

You may have to be very firm with the social workers there. You may want to
enlist the help of an Adoption Support Agency but they do have to charge
fees. AAA-Norcap has its own contact register as well http://norcap.org
There are many websites where you can leave details, you need to be quite
wary of some them make sure to Google first find out what comments others
have made. There are some real rogue organisations around still
unfortunately, despite the new government regulations on who can undertake
such work!


Best of luck, you'll need it


Robin

*

"Jed B" <j.brough@net......co> wrote in message 
news:46001877$0$8735$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader02.plus.net...
> Hello All,
>
> I'm searching for my birth parents particularly my birth mother as I 
> was adopted shortly after my birth.  I was born in October 1965 and 
> was adopted in April 1966.  I currently have in my possession copies 
> of my original birth certificate, my birth mothers birth certificate 
> and my adoption certificate.
>
> I was born in Sheffield and my birth mother was born in Putney in 
> 1942.  My birth father and his occupation have been omitted on my 
> original birth certificate thus making it impossible to find out who 
> he is/was without firstly contacting my birth mother.

And you may not have contact because she does not want it. Or even if 
she does allow contact she may not be able to tell you who your father 
was. And even if she could tell you who your father was she may choose 
not to do so for reasons which appear good to her. And even if she 
tells you it does not follow that you can contact him.

>
> I wish to register myself with either a government or non 
> governmental adoption contact register that specialises in tracing 
> birth parents.
>
> Can I ask for recommendations please.
>
NORCAP. Get their bumf, read it, and do what it says. That 
recommendation is unbiased. I am not a member or supporter of NORCAP 
and never will be. My speciality is in post-adoption problems which 
arise when the system has broken down and lives are at stake. The 
first move must always be to try the system. If it works, and it does 
for almost all cases where it can work, the problem is solved and what 
I do would be an unnecessary nuisance. Furthermore I take up cases or 
don't take them up at my sole discretion, and for any case I take up 
there are no charges for my time or expenses. I take up very few cases 
and they are almost always to do with some little hitler who has made 
a mistake out of ignorance and who then abuses power to cover up that 
mistake regardless of any damage done to individual people. In other 
words the cases are not about adoption and searching as such. They are 
about injustice. They take a lot of time and expense, and that is only 
going to be incurred for people who have made the fullest honest 
attempt to use the system provided. If NORCAP turn you down for good 
reason there is no point coming to me. It is a recognised body and 
complies with the law.

That some of the law is exceedingly stupid is another issue. That is 
about politics and long-term changes. For individuals in the here and 
now you comply with the law 'as is' and deal only with bodies which 
also comply with it 'as is'.

There is an alternative approach. You can go to a commercial firm, 
which may or may not play ducks and drakes with the law. If you do, 
kindly don't come back to the newsgroup with tales of how you have 
been ripped off and how it all went wrong, should such things happen. 
I for one will have no sympathy with you because all my attention will 
be reserved for those people you and your hired guns have damaged. 
Adoption searching does NOT involve just two people. At the beginning 
you don't know how many people it involves or how delicate their 
existing situations may be. You cannot know how much time it will take 
to sort out those relationships or what the costs involved would be if 
it is to be done in a proper and considerate manner. Those are NOT 
considerations which necessarily enter into the calculation of profit 
margins in a business. If you give a commercial organisation a forced 
choice of making a loss by handling your case properly, or making a 
profit by cutting corners regardless of damage to others, how would 
you expect it to choose? How would you choose if it was your sole 
source of income? There are some things which should not be run as a 
business. In my opinion, adoption searching is one of them.

Don

in article 46001877$0$8735$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader02.plus.net, Jed B at
j.brough@net......co wrote on 20/3/07 17:23:

> Hello All,
> 
> I'm searching for my birth parents particularly my birth mother as I was
> adopted shortly after my birth.  I was born in October 1965 and was adopted
> in April 1966.  I currently have in my possession copies of my original
> birth certificate, my birth mothers birth certificate and my adoption
> certificate.
> 
> I was born in Sheffield and my birth mother was born in Putney in 1942.  My
> birth father and his occupation have been omitted on my original birth
> certificate thus making it impossible to find out who he is/was without
> firstly contacting my birth mother.
> 
> I wish to register myself with either a government or non governmental
> adoption contact register that specialises in tracing birth parents.
> 
> Can I ask for recommendations please.
> 
> Thanks for your time,
> 
> Jed 
> 
> 


Hello Jed

The fact that your father's name does not appear on your birth certificate
does not mean that it does not appear on other documents in your adoption
files.

If you were adopted through an adoption agency ask them or whichever agency
now holds their records for access to your adoption file.

If there was no adoption agency involved, apply to the court where you were
adopted for access to its file on your adoption.

Also ask the Local Authority in the area where you were adopted if they hold
a copy of your Guardian ad Litem report, which may mention your father. They
may also hold Visiting Officer's notes and reports which could possibly
mention him.

You may have to be very firm with the social workers there. You may want to
enlist the help of an Adoption Support Agency but they do have to charge
fees. AAA-Norcap has its own contact register as well http://norcap.org
There are many websites where you can leave details, you need to be quite
wary of some them make sure to Google first find out what comments others
have made. There are some real rogue organisations around still
unfortunately, despite the new government regulations on who can undertake
such work!


Best of luck, you'll need it


Robin

*

"Jed B" <j.brough@net......co> wrote in message 
news:46001877$0$8735$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader02.plus.net...
> Hello All,
>
> I'm searching for my birth parents particularly my birth mother as I 
> was adopted shortly after my birth.  I was born in October 1965 and 
> was adopted in April 1966.  I currently have in my possession copies 
> of my original birth certificate, my birth mothers birth certificate 
> and my adoption certificate.
>
> I was born in Sheffield and my birth mother was born in Putney in 
> 1942.  My birth father and his occupation have been omitted on my 
> original birth certificate thus making it impossible to find out who 
> he is/was without firstly contacting my birth mother.

And you may not have contact because she does not want it. Or even if 
she does allow contact she may not be able to tell you who your father 
was. And even if she could tell you who your father was she may choose 
not to do so for reasons which appear good to her. And even if she 
tells you it does not follow that you can contact him.

>
> I wish to register myself with either a government or non 
> governmental adoption contact register that specialises in tracing 
> birth parents.
>
> Can I ask for recommendations please.
>
NORCAP. Get their bumf, read it, and do what it says. That 
recommendation is unbiased. I am not a member or supporter of NORCAP 
and never will be. My speciality is in post-adoption problems which 
arise when the system has broken down and lives are at stake. The 
first move must always be to try the system. If it works, and it does 
for almost all cases where it can work, the problem is solved and what 
I do would be an unnecessary nuisance. Furthermore I take up cases or 
don't take them up at my sole discretion, and for any case I take up 
there are no charges for my time or expenses. I take up very few cases 
and they are almost always to do with some little hitler who has made 
a mistake out of ignorance and who then abuses power to cover up that 
mistake regardless of any damage done to individual people. In other 
words the cases are not about adoption and searching as such. They are 
about injustice. They take a lot of time and expense, and that is only 
going to be incurred for people who have made the fullest honest 
attempt to use the system provided. If NORCAP turn you down for good 
reason there is no point coming to me. It is a recognised body and 
complies with the law.

That some of the law is exceedingly stupid is another issue. That is 
about politics and long-term changes. For individuals in the here and 
now you comply with the law 'as is' and deal only with bodies which 
also comply with it 'as is'.

There is an alternative approach. You can go to a commercial firm, 
which may or may not play ducks and drakes with the law. If you do, 
kindly don't come back to the newsgroup with tales of how you have 
been ripped off and how it all went wrong, should such things happen. 
I for one will have no sympathy with you because all my attention will 
be reserved for those people you and your hired guns have damaged. 
Adoption searching does NOT involve just two people. At the beginning 
you don't know how many people it involves or how delicate their 
existing situations may be. You cannot know how much time it will take 
to sort out those relationships or what the costs involved would be if 
it is to be done in a proper and considerate manner. Those are NOT 
considerations which necessarily enter into the calculation of profit 
margins in a business. If you give a commercial organisation a forced 
choice of making a loss by handling your case properly, or making a 
profit by cutting corners regardless of damage to others, how would 
you expect it to choose? How would you choose if it was your sole 
source of income? There are some things which should not be run as a 
business. In my opinion, adoption searching is one of them.

Don

in article 46001877$0$8735$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader02.plus.net, Jed B at
j.brough@net......co wrote on 20/3/07 17:23:

> Hello All,
> 
> I'm searching for my birth parents particularly my birth mother as I was
> adopted shortly after my birth.  I was born in October 1965 and was adopted
> in April 1966.  I currently have in my possession copies of my original
> birth certificate, my birth mothers birth certificate and my adoption
> certificate.
> 
> I was born in Sheffield and my birth mother was born in Putney in 1942.  My
> birth father and his occupation have been omitted on my original birth
> certificate thus making it impossible to find out who he is/was without
> firstly contacting my birth mother.
> 
> I wish to register myself with either a government or non governmental
> adoption contact register that specialises in tracing birth parents.
> 
> Can I ask for recommendations please.
> 
> Thanks for your time,
> 
> Jed 
> 
> 


Hello Jed

The fact that your father's name does not appear on your birth certificate
does not mean that it does not appear on other documents in your adoption
files.

If you were adopted through an adoption agency ask them or whichever agency
now holds their records for access to your adoption file.

If there was no adoption agency involved, apply to the court where you were
adopted for access to its file on your adoption.

Also ask the Local Authority in the area where you were adopted if they hold
a copy of your Guardian ad Litem report, which may mention your father. They
may also hold Visiting Officer's notes and reports which could possibly
mention him.

You may have to be very firm with the social workers there. You may want to
enlist the help of an Adoption Support Agency but they do have to charge
fees. AAA-Norcap has its own contact register as well http://norcap.org
There are many websites where you can leave details, you need to be quite
wary of some them make sure to Google first find out what comments others
have made. There are some real rogue organisations around still
unfortunately, despite the new government regulations on who can undertake
such work!


Best of luck, you'll need it


Robin

*