Marley wrote
> marriage family is the root and model of all oppression.
> Free people cannot be tied down to family.

What if somebody freely chooses to be obligated thus?

Marley wote
> until [America] ceases to be a pediacentric,
> baybee/child hungry culture, this will continue.
> The baybee lovers feel they have a right to a kid--anybody's.

A bit extreme perhaps but I agree that obsession
does drive people to covet other people's children.

G > The systems explanation for not following the
G > Constitution is that parents are not facing jail or prison,
G > therefore they don't need constitutional protections.

Marley wrote
> [ ] , but civil law has lower standards.

LIBERTY INTERESTS involved dictate HIGH standards,
more like a criminal murder trial, but apparently they
came up with these substandard courts to make it
easy for incompetent caseworkers to make cases.
Judges even tolerate what they know to be perjury.

Marley wrote
> [] The state needs to get out of welfare. We have the
> Progressive Era to thank for this, when 100 years ago
> they turned over policing duties to do-gooding
> middle class social engineers.

Interesting explanation.
Family Rights people have seen mocked some of
the rediculous "Social Engineering" apparent in the
functioning of the system.

Marley wrote
> Very good analysis.  I'll call in [something] radical though.,  Stop breeding.

It certainly is radical, especially if freedom is an issue.