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date: Thu, 03 Sep 2009 11:05:20 +0100,
group: uk.music.guitar
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Ultra light strings
After seeing Julie Ellison's YouTube video (just look for 'Julie Ellison
Rotosound' and you will find it) with the surprising details of using
10-48 gauge I have been thinking about the potential for lighter strings.
Martin Carthy uses similarly light strings despite tuning down to C a
lof of the time, and I think I asked Clive Gregson what string he had on
a Gibson jumbo and got the same unexpected reply - ultra light.
I've ordered some of the piano wound Rotosounds in 10-48 and 11-50 to
try out (found them, after much searching, from a Dutch company trading
as 'lordofthestrings.com'). In the meantime, my local shop had been
getting in some Dean Markely Vintage Bronze Signature Series 11-46 sets
- certainly the skinniest acoustic bass I've ever heard of.
Mainly because it had the oldest strings on, but also because I felt the
light strings would work on a very lightly built guitar, I fitted these
to my 'Londoner', the slightly crude by sonically excellent parlour
guitar I had made by Russell Rose three or four years ago.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FlmaNHj8PuU
Drop D too, despite the 46 bass on a 24.9 inch scale. Intonation is
tricky on the bass string and I think 11-48 or 50 would work better, but
the skinny middle strings respond really well and have a fast response.
David
date: Thu, 03 Sep 2009 11:05:20 +0100
author: David Kilpatrick
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Re: Ultra light strings
"David Kilpatrick" wrote in message
news:fe2dnY3fxcZ9CQLXnZ2dnUVZ8lD_fwAA@bt.com...
> I've ordered some of the piano wound Rotosounds in 10-48 and 11-50 to try
> out (found them, after much searching, from a Dutch company trading as
> 'lordofthestrings.com').
If "piano wound" means the windings stop short of the bridge so that just
the core makes contact,
what you want are Rotosound Country Gold.
I've found them easily enough 11-52 (it's pretty much all I use on
acoustics)
I've never seen them in any lighter gauges though.
date: Thu, 3 Sep 2009 11:15:17 +0100
author: Dave Benj
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Re: Ultra light strings
Dave Benj wrote:
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> "David Kilpatrick" wrote in message
> news:fe2dnY3fxcZ9CQLXnZ2dnUVZ8lD_fwAA@bt.com...
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>> I've ordered some of the piano wound Rotosounds in 10-48 and 11-50 to
>> try out (found them, after much searching, from a Dutch company
>> trading as 'lordofthestrings.com').
>
> If "piano wound" means the windings stop short of the bridge so that
> just the core makes contact,
> what you want are Rotosound Country Gold.
> I've found them easily enough 11-52 (it's pretty much all I use on
> acoustics)
> I've never seen them in any lighter gauges though.
That's the point - Rotosound also make other piano wound strings. Julie
is using SuperBronze, which I could not find under that name. Country
Gold is a bright bronze alloy. I used to get Country Golds in the 12-54
(I think) set. I was not aware Rotosound made any piano wound sets other
than Country Gold, but it seems they do.
Problem I found was that having even a few mm of unwound string upsets
the intonation, and it depends on the guitar as to whether this is an
improvement or the reverse. Think about it - if you stripped away half
the winding above the 12th fret, you would get totally wrong intonation
up the fingerboard, just the same way a nylon string of uneven
rectification (constant thickness) will produce bad intonation on a
classical.
The Country Golds worked well on my OOOO (compensated angled saddle) but
didn't agree with my Lowden O-10 as well at the time (split saddle,
stronger compensation angles) because the Lowden bridge allowed more of
the unwound string to be over the saddle. The OOOO with a pin bridge
placed the unwound section neatly, with just 2-3mm of plain string
before the winding began.
I am hoping that the non-Country Gold Rotosound piano wound extra light
sets I've ordered will agree with my Lowden S35C.
David
date: Thu, 03 Sep 2009 11:31:44 +0100
author: David Kilpatrick
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