So, am am just back from going to pay for the venue, and I am happy say 
that I have exactly the same amount of money that I left the house with. 
This is because the Railway cancelled out booking in favour of some 
girl's 15th birthday party.

I cannot be arsed with spelling out all the detail, but it seems that 
the Railway has changed hands (again) and have a new booking system that 
involves deposits and contracts. Anything that is not booked under that 
system is not honoured. They say that they tried to contact me, but this 
is nonsense as the number that have in the booking diary (now crossed 
out of course) is correct. because I have no contract, I have no 
recourse. 

Now, I have some feelers out for a replacement venue, bit it dopes not 
look good. We are late in the day now for November bookings and any 
alternatives run the risk of being expensive, shit or dangerous. 

I will know by the middle of next week if we are on or note. 

I am dead sorry people. This is partly my fault for believing the 
booking guy who sad we didn't need to pay until the night and partly the 
Railway's fault for being unprofessional shysters. 

Nige.

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"Nige"  wrote in message 
news:snowman1-8BA595.15114430082009@news.zen.co.uk...
> So, am am just back from going to pay for the venue, and I am happy say
> that I have exactly the same amount of money that I left the house with.
> This is because the Railway cancelled out booking in favour of some
> girl's 15th birthday party.
>
> I cannot be arsed with spelling out all the detail, but it seems that
> the Railway has changed hands (again) and have a new booking system that
> involves deposits and contracts. Anything that is not booked under that
> system is not honoured. They say that they tried to contact me, but this
> is nonsense as the number that have in the booking diary (now crossed
> out of course) is correct. because I have no contract, I have no
> recourse.
>
> Now, I have some feelers out for a replacement venue, bit it dopes not
> look good. We are late in the day now for November bookings and any
> alternatives run the risk of being expensive, shit or dangerous.
>
> I will know by the middle of next week if we are on or note.
>
> I am dead sorry people. This is partly my fault for believing the
> booking guy who sad we didn't need to pay until the night and partly the
> Railway's fault for being unprofessional shysters.
>
> Nige.
>
> -- 
> Nige.
> snowman1@molars.yetitracks.org.uk
> Remove the teeth from my email address to reply


Oh crap, can the Railway do it a week later or is changing the date a non 
starter?

Andrew

In article <MUvmm.73583$OO7.26482@text.news.virginmedia.com>,
 "Andrew\(lefty\)"  wrote:

> "Nige"  wrote in message 
> news:snowman1-8BA595.15114430082009@news.zen.co.uk...
> > So, am am just back from going to pay for the venue, and I am happy say
> > that I have exactly the same amount of money that I left the house with.
> > This is because the Railway cancelled out booking in favour of some
> > girl's 15th birthday party.
> >
> > I cannot be arsed with spelling out all the detail, but it seems that
> > the Railway has changed hands (again) and have a new booking system that
> > involves deposits and contracts. Anything that is not booked under that
> > system is not honoured. They say that they tried to contact me, but this
> > is nonsense as the number that have in the booking diary (now crossed
> > out of course) is correct. because I have no contract, I have no
> > recourse.
> >
> > Now, I have some feelers out for a replacement venue, bit it dopes not
> > look good. We are late in the day now for November bookings and any
> > alternatives run the risk of being expensive, shit or dangerous.
> >
> > I will know by the middle of next week if we are on or note.
> >
> > I am dead sorry people. This is partly my fault for believing the
> > booking guy who sad we didn't need to pay until the night and partly the
> > Railway's fault for being unprofessional shysters.
> >
> > Nige.
> >
> > -- 
> > Nige.
> > snowman1@molars.yetitracks.org.uk
> > Remove the teeth from my email address to reply
> 
> 
> Oh crap, can the Railway do it a week later or is changing the date a non 
> starter?
> 
> Andrew 

I swore at the lady. She probably hates me. She also wanted to add to 
our bill the cost of two bouncers. Probably to protect herself from 
getting hit in the moo. 

I am looking at alternatives. There are a few around.

Nige.

-- 
Nige.
snowman1@molars.yetitracks.org.uk
Remove the teeth from my email address to reply

[snip]

 >She also wanted to add to our bill the cost of two bouncers.

She must have heard about Telford.

In article <Vxwmm.73603$OO7.45501@text.news.virginmedia.com>,
 "Andrew\(lefty\)"  wrote:

> [snip]
> 
>  >She also wanted to add to our bill the cost of two bouncers.
> 
> She must have heard about Telford.

I have approached the Rugby Club and am getting costs and advice from 
the Palace. I am also meeting someone tonight who knows the area better 
than I. 

Judging by how empty the Railway's diary looked, it's probably going to 
be OK. 

Plus 7th is the closest Sat to bonfire night, so I would imagine that 
most function rooms would be available because people will be getting 
their entertainment from blowing stuff up. 

Nige,

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Damn, they heard I was coming?

Fingers crossed for an alternative. Anything we can do ?

Cheers for keeping us posted.

no66y

On Sun, 30 Aug 2009 16:26:11 +0100, Nige
 wrote:

>In article <Vxwmm.73603$OO7.45501@text.news.virginmedia.com>,
> "Andrew\(lefty\)"  wrote:
>
>> [snip]
>> 
>>  >She also wanted to add to our bill the cost of two bouncers.
>> 
>> She must have heard about Telford.
>
>I have approached the Rugby Club and am getting costs and advice from 
>the Palace. I am also meeting someone tonight who knows the area better 
>than I. 
>
>Judging by how empty the Railway's diary looked, it's probably going to 
>be OK. 
>
>Plus 7th is the closest Sat to bonfire night, so I would imagine that 
>most function rooms would be available because people will be getting 
>their entertainment from blowing stuff up. 
>
>Nige,

Have left voicemail - call me back. 0117 9089850.

Or: 0798 656 3309

Pete

On Aug 30, 3:11 pm, Nige  wrote:

>  snip



>
> I will know by the middle of next week if we are on or note.
>
> I am dead sorry people. This is partly my fault for believing the
> booking guy who sad we didn't need to pay until the night and partly the
> Railway's fault for being unprofessional shysters.
>
> Nige.
>
> --
> Nige.
> snowm...@molars.yetitracks.org.uk
> Remove the teeth from my email address to reply


major bummer Nige.  I'm sure the rest of Buxton's hotels, pubs, curry
shops,  etc, will be absolutely delighted with the owners of the
Railway if we all en-mass have to cancel.  I'm sure the local Chamber
of Commerce will be delighted to think about the impact on the wider
area.

I really hope you can find somewhere else.

Andrew_S

In article ,
 anything@contractorcom.com wrote:

> On Sun, 30 Aug 2009 16:26:11 +0100, Nige
>  wrote:
> 
> >In article <Vxwmm.73603$OO7.45501@text.news.virginmedia.com>,
> > "Andrew\(lefty\)"  wrote:
> >
> >> [snip]
> >> 
> >>  >She also wanted to add to our bill the cost of two bouncers.
> >> 
> >> She must have heard about Telford.
> >
> >I have approached the Rugby Club and am getting costs and advice from 
> >the Palace. I am also meeting someone tonight who knows the area better 
> >than I. 
> >
> >Judging by how empty the Railway's diary looked, it's probably going to 
> >be OK. 
> >
> >Plus 7th is the closest Sat to bonfire night, so I would imagine that 
> >most function rooms would be available because people will be getting 
> >their entertainment from blowing stuff up. 
> >
> >Nige,
> 
> Have left voicemail - call me back. 0117 9089850.
> 
> Or: 0798 656 3309
> 
> Pete

Thanks Pete. 

People, International Rescue has been called. 

Nige.

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In article 
,
 Andrew Sinclair  wrote:

> On Aug 30, 3:11 pm, Nige  wrote:
> 
> >  snip
> 
> 
> 
> >
> > I will know by the middle of next week if we are on or note.
> >
> > I am dead sorry people. This is partly my fault for believing the
> > booking guy who sad we didn't need to pay until the night and partly the
> > Railway's fault for being unprofessional shysters.
> >
> > Nige.
> >
> > --
> > Nige.
> > snowm...@molars.yetitracks.org.uk
> > Remove the teeth from my email address to reply
> 
> 
> major bummer Nige.  I'm sure the rest of Buxton's hotels, pubs, curry
> shops,  etc, will be absolutely delighted with the owners of the
> Railway if we all en-mass have to cancel.  I'm sure the local Chamber
> of Commerce will be delighted to think about the impact on the wider
> area.
> 
> I really hope you can find somewhere else.
> 
> Andrew_S

Andrew, 

I think we will.

I particularly loved the part where the goblin from the Railway said 
"Please don't raise your voice in front of my customers. I am trying to 
run a business!"

I thought "Fucking hell, woman. You just put a fifteenth birthday party 
in on top of forty hungry, middle-aged beerheads with a rock fetish. 
Bloody great business sense, that madam!"

I forgot to actually say it though. 

Nige.

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"Nige"  wrote in message 
news:snowman1-8BA595.15114430082009@news.zen.co.uk...
> So, am am just back from going to pay for the venue, and I am happy say
> that I have exactly the same amount of money that I left the house with.

Erm...
If we are going to cancel it or change the date, can we do it quickly and 
let me know ASAP?
There are /a lot/ of hotel rooms reserved against my credit card...

In article ,
 "Dave Benj"  wrote:

> "Nige"  wrote in message 
> news:snowman1-8BA595.15114430082009@news.zen.co.uk...
> > So, am am just back from going to pay for the venue, and I am happy say
> > that I have exactly the same amount of money that I left the house with.
> 
> Erm...
> If we are going to cancel it or change the date, can we do it quickly and 
> let me know ASAP?
> There are /a lot/ of hotel rooms reserved against my credit card... 

Dave. I am looking after you. 

We already have a yes from one venue and I just have to go and see that 
it's like tomorrow. Then I have three more I am warming up. You will be 
the first to know, but right now, only four hours after the shit news, 
it's looking like it's going to be OK. We will know on Tues of 
thereabouts. 

Is that OK?

Nige.

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"Nige"  wrote in message 
news:snowman1-74EE02.19130230082009@news.zen.co.uk...
> In article ,
> "Dave Benj"  wrote:
>
>> "Nige"  wrote in message
>> news:snowman1-8BA595.15114430082009@news.zen.co.uk...
>> > So, am am just back from going to pay for the venue, and I am happy say
>> > that I have exactly the same amount of money that I left the house 
>> > with.
>>
>> Erm...
>> If we are going to cancel it or change the date, can we do it quickly and
>> let me know ASAP?
>> There are /a lot/ of hotel rooms reserved against my credit card...
>
> Dave. I am looking after you.
>
> We already have a yes from one venue.....

The venue you metioned on the phone will do very nicely thank you.
If half the distance away from the hotels that I've booked.
I'd be happy with that!

Thanks for the phone call by the way.

On Sun, 30 Aug 2009 19:06:08 +0100, Dave Benj wrote:

> "Nige"  wrote in message 
> news:snowman1-8BA595.15114430082009@news.zen.co.uk...
>> So, am am just back from going to pay for the venue, and I am happy say
>> that I have exactly the same amount of money that I left the house with.
> 
> Erm...
> If we are going to cancel it or change the date, can we do it quickly and 
> let me know ASAP?
> There are /a lot/ of hotel rooms reserved against my credit card...

FWIW, obligation is acknowledged.

"Peter McCormack"  wrote in message 
news:1b8tzt7inlzci$.1x4u749hswi5r.dlg@40tude.net...
> On Sun, 30 Aug 2009 19:06:08 +0100, Dave Benj wrote:
>
>> "Nige"  wrote in message
>> news:snowman1-8BA595.15114430082009@news.zen.co.uk...
>>> So, am am just back from going to pay for the venue, and I am happy say
>>> that I have exactly the same amount of money that I left the house with.
>>
>> Erm...
>> If we are going to cancel it or change the date, can we do it quickly and
>> let me know ASAP?
>> There are /a lot/ of hotel rooms reserved against my credit card...
>
> FWIW, obligation is acknowledged.

Thanks Pete, I don't think it'll come to that.
Had a chat on the phone with Nige earlier.
I'm optimistic :-)

In article ,
 "Dave Benj"  wrote:

> "Peter McCormack"  wrote in message 
> news:1b8tzt7inlzci$.1x4u749hswi5r.dlg@40tude.net...
> > On Sun, 30 Aug 2009 19:06:08 +0100, Dave Benj wrote:
> >
> >> "Nige"  wrote in message
> >> news:snowman1-8BA595.15114430082009@news.zen.co.uk...
> >>> So, am am just back from going to pay for the venue, and I am happy say
> >>> that I have exactly the same amount of money that I left the house with.
> >>
> >> Erm...
> >> If we are going to cancel it or change the date, can we do it quickly and
> >> let me know ASAP?
> >> There are /a lot/ of hotel rooms reserved against my credit card...
> >
> > FWIW, obligation is acknowledged.
> 
> Thanks Pete, I don't think it'll come to that.
> Had a chat on the phone with Nige earlier.
> I'm optimistic :-) 

Aye. It probably won't. 

Nige.

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On Sun, 30 Aug 2009 18:41:26 +0100, Nige
 wrote:

>In article ,
> anything@contractorcom.com wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 30 Aug 2009 16:26:11 +0100, Nige
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> >In article <Vxwmm.73603$OO7.45501@text.news.virginmedia.com>,
>> > "Andrew\(lefty\)"  wrote:
>> >
>> >> [snip]
>> >> 
>> >>  >She also wanted to add to our bill the cost of two bouncers.
>> >> 
>> >> She must have heard about Telford.
>> >
>> >I have approached the Rugby Club and am getting costs and advice from 
>> >the Palace. I am also meeting someone tonight who knows the area better 
>> >than I. 
>> >
>> >Judging by how empty the Railway's diary looked, it's probably going to 
>> >be OK. 
>> >
>> >Plus 7th is the closest Sat to bonfire night, so I would imagine that 
>> >most function rooms would be available because people will be getting 
>> >their entertainment from blowing stuff up. 
>> >
>> >Nige,
>> 
>> Have left voicemail - call me back. 0117 9089850.
>> 
>> Or: 0798 656 3309
>> 
>> Pete
>
>Thanks Pete. 
>
>People, International Rescue has been called. 
>
>Nige.

Just don't call me 'Brains' OK?

My Brains are in my ass.

Pete

On Sun, 30 Aug 2009 18:44:01 +0100, Nige
 wrote:

>In article 
>,
> Andrew Sinclair  wrote:
>
>> On Aug 30, 3:11 pm, Nige  wrote:
>> 
>> >  snip
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> >
>> > I will know by the middle of next week if we are on or note.
>> >
>> > I am dead sorry people. This is partly my fault for believing the
>> > booking guy who sad we didn't need to pay until the night and partly the
>> > Railway's fault for being unprofessional shysters.
>> >
>> > Nige.
>> >
>> > --
>> > Nige.
>> > snowm...@molars.yetitracks.org.uk
>> > Remove the teeth from my email address to reply
>> 
>> 
>> major bummer Nige.  I'm sure the rest of Buxton's hotels, pubs, curry
>> shops,  etc, will be absolutely delighted with the owners of the
>> Railway if we all en-mass have to cancel.  I'm sure the local Chamber
>> of Commerce will be delighted to think about the impact on the wider
>> area.
>> 
>> I really hope you can find somewhere else.
>> 
>> Andrew_S
>
>Andrew, 
>
>I think we will.
>
>I particularly loved the part where the goblin from the Railway said 
>"Please don't raise your voice in front of my customers. I am trying to 
>run a business!"
>
>I thought "Fucking hell, woman. You just put a fifteenth birthday party 
>in on top of forty hungry, middle-aged beerheads with a rock fetish. 
>Bloody great business sense, that madam!"
>
>I forgot to actually say it though. 
>
>Nige.

I would have, and I have.

Pete

On Sun, 30 Aug 2009 15:11:44 +0100, Nige
 wrote:


>
>I am dead sorry people. This is partly my fault for believing the 
>booking guy who sad we didn't need to pay until the night and partly the 
>Railway's fault for being unprofessional shysters. 
>
>Nige.


Nope, it's not your fault.  I fail to see how the cut-throat
operations of an unscrupulous landlord can be laid at your door.

Years ago, I organised a Mini Meet, at Basset's Pole Island, nea
Sutton Coldfield.  At the time there was a rather interesting
racing-themed restaurant there.

To cut a long story short, the management chucked out my booking,
because it was on the same day as Father's day.

Fortunately, with a week's notice, I managed to get an alternative
venue, just down the road, who were only too happy to feed us all and
have our minis in the carpark.

On the day, we all met up in the carpark at Basset's Pole, even
picking up a couple of local Mini enthusiasts who saw us.  At about
2pm we all shot off to the other pub.  Mr. Unscrupulous manager had to
watch as about 20 Minis, representing about 20-30 meals, disappeared,
leaving his place otherwise empty.

It always gives me a wonderful feeling of schadenfreude, every time I
pass the place, because it's now McDonalds.
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On Sun, 30 Aug 2009 18:44:01 +0100, Nige
 wrote:


>
>I particularly loved the part where the goblin from the Railway said 
>"Please don't raise your voice in front of my customers. I am trying to 
>run a business!"
>
>I thought "Fucking hell, woman. You just put a fifteenth birthday party 
>in on top of forty hungry, middle-aged beerheads with a rock fetish. 
>Bloody great business sense, that madam!"
>
>I forgot to actually say it though. 
>
>Nige.


"Trying" being the operative word here.  As opposed to "successfully".

FFS, she's just turned down a complete private bar plus at least 20-30
bar snacks / lunches.

I just wish you lot were a bit nearer : Her Maj's sister would be more
than happy to get that amount of trade at the Weingut/Pension in
November, and I bet half the village would turn out just to watch.
We've even found a suitable Indian restaurant in nearby
Bernkastel/Kues, and you could have had a wine-tasting.  It's a bit
far to travel for a weekend, though. (even though I've done the
opposite various times)...
-- 
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On Aug 30, 8:00 pm, "Dave Benj"  wrote:
> "Peter McCormack"  wrote in message
>
> news:1b8tzt7inlzci$.1x4u749hswi5r.dlg@40tude.net...
>
> > On Sun, 30 Aug 2009 19:06:08 퍝, Dave Benj wrote:
>
> >> "Nige"  wrote in message
> >>news:snowman1-8BA595.15114430082009@news.zen.co.uk...
> >>> So, am am just back from going to pay for the venue, and I am happy say
> >>> that I have exactly the same amount of money that I left the house with.
>
> >> Erm...
> >> If we are going to cancel it or change the date, can we do it quickly and
> >> let me know ASAP?
> >> There are /a lot/ of hotel rooms reserved against my credit card...
>

seconded.



> > FWIW, obligation is acknowledged.
>
> Thanks Pete, I don't think it'll come to that.
> Had a chat on the phone with Nige earlier.
> I'm optimistic :-)

fingers very tightly crossed.  (now I'll need to learn to play in a
Django style.....)

Andrew

On Sun, 30 Aug 2009 21:58:30 +0200, Steve Dix 
wrote:

>On Sun, 30 Aug 2009 15:11:44 +0100, Nige
> wrote:
>
>
>>
>>I am dead sorry people. This is partly my fault for believing the 
>>booking guy who sad we didn't need to pay until the night and partly the 
>>Railway's fault for being unprofessional shysters. 
>>
>>Nige.
>
>
>Nope, it's not your fault.  I fail to see how the cut-throat
>operations of an unscrupulous landlord can be laid at your door.
>
>Years ago, I organised a Mini Meet, at Basset's Pole Island, nea
>Sutton Coldfield.  At the time there was a rather interesting
>racing-themed restaurant there.
>
>To cut a long story short, the management chucked out my booking,
>because it was on the same day as Father's day.
>
>Fortunately, with a week's notice, I managed to get an alternative
>venue, just down the road, who were only too happy to feed us all and
>have our minis in the carpark.
>
>On the day, we all met up in the carpark at Basset's Pole, even
>picking up a couple of local Mini enthusiasts who saw us.  At about
>2pm we all shot off to the other pub.  Mr. Unscrupulous manager had to
>watch as about 20 Minis, representing about 20-30 meals, disappeared,
>leaving his place otherwise empty.
>
>It always gives me a wonderful feeling of schadenfreude, every time I
>pass the place, because it's now McDonalds.

Heh...Had a long and highly amusing conversation with Nige earlier,
during which the idea of tipping off a certain WPC Moss of the Buxton
Constabulary (a woman I know well, but not well enough, hem hem) that
the Railway pub would be hosting a 15th birthday party on the 7th
November....

Pete

wrote in message 
news:kesl95dvacfk0572ckij8deu5s8n561voq@4ax.com...

> Heh...Had a long and highly amusing conversation with Nige earlier,
> during which the idea of tipping off a certain WPC Moss of the Buxton
> Constabulary (a woman I know well, but not well enough, hem hem) that
> the Railway pub would be hosting a 15th birthday party on the 7th
> November....


There's a certain pub in the town where I live that once took issue with my 
two boys drinking there "because of their age" (they were 18 & 22 at the 
time)
I took issue with the landlady over this and asked why they were being asked 
for ID everytime they went in.
"We check everyone that drinks in here's ID" she said.
"No you don't" I siad
"Yes we do" she said
"No you don't" I said, "There are a couple of 15 year olds drinking 
Newcastle Brown in there"
"Huh!" She said, very  arrogantly, "How do you know they are 15?"
"Because I'm their uncle!" I said
"Oh shit!" she said, "What are you going to do about that?" (Her face was a 
picture at this point.)
"That, my dear, is for you to worry about...".
At which point I left because I couldn't keep a straight face any longer
:-)

Dave Benj wrote:
> 
> "Nige"  wrote in message 
> news:snowman1-8BA595.15114430082009@news.zen.co.uk...
>> So, am am just back from going to pay for the venue, and I am happy say
>> that I have exactly the same amount of money that I left the house with.
> 
> Erm...
> If we are going to cancel it or change the date, can we do it quickly 
> and let me know ASAP?
> There are /a lot/ of hotel rooms reserved against my credit card...

...a thought which also immediately occurred to me.

Please be prepared to be ruthless.

On Sun, 30 Aug 2009 22:58:22 +0100, "Dave Benj"
 wrote:

>
> wrote in message 
>news:kesl95dvacfk0572ckij8deu5s8n561voq@4ax.com...
>
>> Heh...Had a long and highly amusing conversation with Nige earlier,
>> during which the idea of tipping off a certain WPC Moss of the Buxton
>> Constabulary (a woman I know well, but not well enough, hem hem) that
>> the Railway pub would be hosting a 15th birthday party on the 7th
>> November....
>
>
>There's a certain pub in the town where I live that once took issue with my 
>two boys drinking there "because of their age" (they were 18 & 22 at the 
>time)
>I took issue with the landlady over this and asked why they were being asked 
>for ID everytime they went in.
>"We check everyone that drinks in here's ID" she said.
>"No you don't" I siad
>"Yes we do" she said
>"No you don't" I said, "There are a couple of 15 year olds drinking 
>Newcastle Brown in there"
>"Huh!" She said, very  arrogantly, "How do you know they are 15?"
>"Because I'm their uncle!" I said
>"Oh shit!" she said, "What are you going to do about that?" (Her face was a 
>picture at this point.)
>"That, my dear, is for you to worry about...".
>At which point I left because I couldn't keep a straight face any longer
>:-) 

Heh..you can get away with murder if you're discreet. I ran a pub in
Bath for a year and a half (got out before it killed me - Vodka for
breakfast is NOT a good move even if you are Jane Bond). I rang the
Bath po-lice to say that there were large numbers of kids taking
cocaine in my boozer and a) I didn't want to get busted and b) I like
drugs but coke turns people into gibbering morons and I've no time for
it.

The return 'phone call came from Radstock. What does this tell me?

There is no drug squad in Bath.

Pete

"Nige"  wrote in message 
news:snowman1-8BA595.15114430082009@news.zen.co.uk...
> So, am am just back from going to pay for the venue, and I am happy say
> that I have exactly the same amount of money that I left the house with.
> This is because the Railway cancelled out booking in favour of some
> girl's 15th birthday party.

EH!! I thought the whole deal with these venues is they get *all* their 
accommodation fully booked for the weekend guaranteed (or am I getting this 
wrong)? Or is it the old 'bait and switch' routine where they 'promise' the 
venue to get the accommodation booked then cancel the venue citing 'no 
contract' but keep the accommodation bookings because there's a contract for 
those?

icarusi
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On Sun, 30 Aug 2009 00:34:56 -0700, "icarusi" 
wrote:

>"Nige"  wrote in message 
>news:snowman1-8BA595.15114430082009@news.zen.co.uk...
>> So, am am just back from going to pay for the venue, and I am happy say
>> that I have exactly the same amount of money that I left the house with.
>> This is because the Railway cancelled out booking in favour of some
>> girl's 15th birthday party.
>
>EH!! I thought the whole deal with these venues is they get *all* their 
>accommodation fully booked for the weekend guaranteed (or am I getting this 
>wrong)? Or is it the old 'bait and switch' routine where they 'promise' the 
>venue to get the accommodation booked then cancel the venue citing 'no 
>contract' but keep the accommodation bookings because there's a contract for 
>those?
>
>icarusi

That's a fairly cynical view. AFAIK there's no rooms to let at the
Railway. They just think they can make more money out of a birthday
party (which prolly won't start until late afternoon) than they can
out of a bunch of boozy guitarists who will be there all day.

More fool them. The margins on softs (and it IS a 15th birthday party)
are huge, but what they're going to get is a lot of 13-19 year olds
sneaking in half bottles of vodka and mixing it with their diet cokes
which will lead to a lot of highly inebriated under-aged girls puking
on the carpet because they can't make it to the bog in time. 

There will also be fights involving pissed-up 17 year old spotty chavs
and the girls who's knickers they are attempting to remove, and quite
a lot of young women staggering around in broken heels looking like an
'after' advert for binge drinking.

There will also be lecherous uncles, and aunties who look like they
should be working part time in the 'Rovers Return' and the other half
time hanging out under the railway arches in corsets, red lipstick and
laddered tights.

I've half a mind to go...:-)

Pete

On Aug 31, 1:05 am, anyth...@contractorcom.com wrote:
> On Sun, 30 Aug 2009 00:34:56 -0700, "icarusi" 
> wrote:
>
> >"Nige"  wrote in message
> >news:snowman1-8BA595.15114430082009@news.zen.co.uk...
> >> So, am am just back from going to pay for the venue, and I am happy say
> >> that I have exactly the same amount of money that I left the house with.
> >> This is because the Railway cancelled out booking in favour of some
> >> girl's 15th birthday party.
>
> >EH!! I thought the whole deal with these venues is they get *all* their
> >accommodation fully booked for the weekend guaranteed (or am I getting this
> >wrong)? Or is it the old 'bait and switch' routine where they 'promise' the
> >venue to get the accommodation booked then cancel the venue citing 'no
> >contract' but keep the accommodation bookings because there's a contract for
> >those?
>
> >icarusi
>
> That's a fairly cynical view. AFAIK there's no rooms to let at the
> Railway. They just think they can make more money out of a birthday
> party (which prolly won't start until late afternoon) than they can
> out of a bunch of boozy guitarists who will be there all day.
>
> More fool them. The margins on softs (and it IS a 15th birthday party)
> are huge, but what they're going to get is a lot of 13-19 year olds
> sneaking in half bottles of vodka and mixing it with their diet cokes
> which will lead to a lot of highly inebriated under-aged girls puking
> on the carpet because they can't make it to the bog in time.
>
> There will also be fights involving pissed-up 17 year old spotty chavs
> and the girls who's knickers they are attempting to remove, and quite
> a lot of young women staggering around in broken heels looking like an
> 'after' advert for binge drinking.
>
> There will also be lecherous uncles, and aunties who look like they
> should be working part time in the 'Rovers Return' and the other half
> time hanging out under the railway arches in corsets, red lipstick and
> laddered tights.
>
> I've half a mind to go...:-)
>
> Pete

No cynicism from you then, Pete ?
8¬)

Cliff

On 31 Aug, 11:33, Cliff  wrote:
> On Aug 31, 1:05 am, anyth...@contractorcom.com wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Sun, 30 Aug 2009 00:34:56 -0700, "icarusi" 
> > wrote:
>
> > >"Nige"  wrote in message
> > >news:snowman1-8BA595.15114430082009@news.zen.co.uk...
> > >> So, am am just back from going to pay for the venue, and I am happy say
> > >> that I have exactly the same amount of money that I left the house with.
> > >> This is because the Railway cancelled out booking in favour of some
> > >> girl's 15th birthday party.
>
> > >EH!! I thought the whole deal with these venues is they get *all* their
> > >accommodation fully booked for the weekend guaranteed (or am I getting this
> > >wrong)? Or is it the old 'bait and switch' routine where they 'promise' the
> > >venue to get the accommodation booked then cancel the venue citing 'no
> > >contract' but keep the accommodation bookings because there's a contract for
> > >those?
>
> > >icarusi
>
> > That's a fairly cynical view. AFAIK there's no rooms to let at the
> > Railway. They just think they can make more money out of a birthday
> > party (which prolly won't start until late afternoon) than they can
> > out of a bunch of boozy guitarists who will be there all day.
>
> > More fool them. The margins on softs (and it IS a 15th birthday party)
> > are huge, but what they're going to get is a lot of 13-19 year olds
> > sneaking in half bottles of vodka and mixing it with their diet cokes
> > which will lead to a lot of highly inebriated under-aged girls puking
> > on the carpet because they can't make it to the bog in time.
>
> > There will also be fights involving pissed-up 17 year old spotty chavs
> > and the girls who's knickers they are attempting to remove, and quite
> > a lot of young women staggering around in broken heels looking like an
> > 'after' advert for binge drinking.
>
> > There will also be lecherous uncles, and aunties who look like they
> > should be working part time in the 'Rovers Return' and the other half
> > time hanging out under the railway arches in corsets, red lipstick and
> > laddered tights.
>
> > I've half a mind to go...:-)
>
> > Pete
>
> No cynicism from you then, Pete ?
> 8¬)
>
> Cliff- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Hi Everyone,
sorry to hear the Railway has pissed on your chips so to speak.  A
possible way round the kids' party might be to volunteer as kids'
entertainers for the day.  You could sabotage the disco and then
gradually take over the do.  Obviously, kiddie cover bands would have
an advantage - any suggestions?

Seriously,
I hope that you all get sorted and have an even better bash.

Cheers,

Alan

"Cliff"  wrote in message 
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> No cynicism from you then, Pete ?

I don't think it's cynicism. I think he knows the family...

"Steve Dix"  wrote in message 
news:34ml95dfk9kvnk56bh30vf9noddban7tjl@4ax.com...
> On Sun, 30 Aug 2009 15:11:44 +0100, Nige
>  wrote:
>
>
>>
>>I am dead sorry people. This is partly my fault for believing the
>>booking guy who sad we didn't need to pay until the night and partly the
>>Railway's fault for being unprofessional shysters.
>>
>>Nige.
>
>
> Nope, it's not your fault.  I fail to see how the cut-throat
> operations of an unscrupulous landlord can be laid at your door.
>
> Years ago, I organised a Mini Meet, at Basset's Pole Island, nea
> Sutton Coldfield.  At the time there was a rather interesting
> racing-themed restaurant there.
>
> To cut a long story short, the management chucked out my booking,
> because it was on the same day as Father's day.
>
> Fortunately, with a week's notice, I managed to get an alternative
> venue, just down the road, who were only too happy to feed us all and
> have our minis in the carpark.
>
> On the day, we all met up in the carpark at Basset's Pole, even
> picking up a couple of local Mini enthusiasts who saw us.  At about
> 2pm we all shot off to the other pub.  Mr. Unscrupulous manager had to
> watch as about 20 Minis, representing about 20-30 meals, disappeared,
> leaving his place otherwise empty.
>
> It always gives me a wonderful feeling of schadenfreude, every time I
> pass the place, because it's now McDonalds.

And the car park is now frequently a meeting place for bikers.
I go past there when visiting my daughter in Lichfield.

George

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> On Sun, 30 Aug 2009 22:58:22 +0100, "Dave Benj"
>  wrote:
>
>>
>> wrote in message
>>news:kesl95dvacfk0572ckij8deu5s8n561voq@4ax.com...
>>
>>> Heh...Had a long and highly amusing conversation with Nige earlier,
>>> during which the idea of tipping off a certain WPC Moss of the Buxton
>>> Constabulary (a woman I know well, but not well enough, hem hem) that
>>> the Railway pub would be hosting a 15th birthday party on the 7th
>>> November....
>>
>>
>>There's a certain pub in the town where I live that once took issue with 
>>my
>>two boys drinking there "because of their age" (they were 18 & 22 at the
>>time)
>>I took issue with the landlady over this and asked why they were being 
>>asked
>>for ID everytime they went in.
>>"We check everyone that drinks in here's ID" she said.
>>"No you don't" I siad
>>"Yes we do" she said
>>"No you don't" I said, "There are a couple of 15 year olds drinking
>>Newcastle Brown in there"
>>"Huh!" She said, very  arrogantly, "How do you know they are 15?"
>>"Because I'm their uncle!" I said
>>"Oh shit!" she said, "What are you going to do about that?" (Her face was 
>>a
>>picture at this point.)
>>"That, my dear, is for you to worry about...".
>>At which point I left because I couldn't keep a straight face any longer
>>:-)
>
> Heh..you can get away with murder if you're discreet. I ran a pub in
> Bath for a year and a half (got out before it killed me - Vodka for
> breakfast is NOT a good move even if you are Jane Bond). I rang the
> Bath po-lice to say that there were large numbers of kids taking
> cocaine in my boozer and a) I didn't want to get busted and b) I like
> drugs but coke turns people into gibbering morons and I've no time for
> it.
>
> The return 'phone call came from Radstock. What does this tell me?
>
> There is no drug squad in Bath.

Nah - Norton Radstock is probably the crime capital of north-east Somerset.
Proof - Midsomer murders.
;-)

George

"Nige"  wrote in message 
news:snowman1-8BA595.15114430082009@news.zen.co.uk...
> So, am am just back from going to pay for the venue, and I am happy say
> that I have exactly the same amount of money that I left the house with.
> This is because the Railway cancelled out booking in favour of some
> girl's 15th birthday party.
>
> I cannot be arsed with spelling out all the detail, but it seems that
> the Railway has changed hands (again) and have a new booking system that
> involves deposits and contracts. Anything that is not booked under that
> system is not honoured. They say that they tried to contact me, but this
> is nonsense as the number that have in the booking diary (now crossed
> out of course) is correct. because I have no contract, I have no
> recourse.
>
> Now, I have some feelers out for a replacement venue, bit it dopes not
> look good. We are late in the day now for November bookings and any
> alternatives run the risk of being expensive, shit or dangerous.
>
> I will know by the middle of next week if we are on or note.
>
> I am dead sorry people. This is partly my fault for believing the
> booking guy who sad we didn't need to pay until the night and partly the
> Railway's fault for being unprofessional shysters.
>
> Nige.

Seems like an apt time to start writing a few reviews?
http://www.qype.co.uk/place/268036-Railway-Hotel-Buxton#write_review_on_place_show
http://trustedplaces.com/review/uk/buxton/bar-pub/1j7267n/railway-hotel

Go on - you know you want to.....

George