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date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 13:55:27 +0100,    group: uk.music.guitar        back       
Getting rid of guitars...   
I've got two guitars (an Aria LW-12 dreadnought acoustic and a Vagabond
travel guitar - see <http://stringsmith.com>) which are surplus to
requirements - I don't use the dreadnought as the body shape doesn't
suit me, and I no longer travel enough to justify the Vagabond.

I'd like to release some funds from them and buy a single guitar which
fits me better. I'm constitutionally not suited to selling things, and I
really don't want to get into the hassle of using e-bay, so any
suggestions before I simply take them to Cash Converters?

I'm in Hampshire if that is relevant.
date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 13:55:27 +0100   author:   Mark Bluemel

Re: Getting rid of guitars...   
Mark Bluemel wrote:
> I've got two guitars (an Aria LW-12 dreadnought acoustic and a Vagabond
> travel guitar - see <http://stringsmith.com>) which are surplus to
> requirements - I don't use the dreadnought as the body shape doesn't
> suit me, and I no longer travel enough to justify the Vagabond.
> 
> I'd like to release some funds from them and buy a single guitar which
> fits me better. I'm constitutionally not suited to selling things, and I
> really don't want to get into the hassle of using e-bay, so any
> suggestions before I simply take them to Cash Converters?
> 
> I'm in Hampshire if that is relevant.

(a) You might get a better match for your desired price here than you 
would at a shop.

(b) Even eBay would almost certainly get you a better price than you're 
likely to be offered at Cash Converters.

How much are you asking?

And tell me about the LW-12.

<Groucho>
Answer the second question first.
</Groucho>
date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 14:02:42 +0100   author:   JNugent

Re: Getting rid of guitars...   
JNugent wrote:

> How much are you asking?

Good question. It's hard for me to get much idea of realistic value for
these guitars.

I'm hoping (possibly vainly) to make enough on them to make a good
contribution to buying a fairly inexpensive replacement - the sort of
thing I'm thinking of is probably in the £300 to £500 range.

According to a luthier friend, the Aria was quoted at about £260 in the 
"blue book"(?).

The Vagabond is currently $400 new, plus usual import costs etc...

> And tell me about the LW-12.

In case you're misled by the name, it's not a 12-string. It's a 6-string
dreadnought with a cedar top - back and sides I'm not sure about. Basic
under-the-saddle piezo which sounds OK with some outboard processing.

Good action and a good sound if you like what dreadnoughts do. It's
simply not the best size and shape for me, and for what I like to play 
(more fingerstyle, I guess) it's not the ideal sound either.

Well used, but not really gigged, and in very good condition. I can 
probably find a photo if you'd like...
date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 14:25:26 +0100   author:   Mark Bluemel

Re: Getting rid of guitars...   
Mark Bluemel wrote:
> JNugent wrote:
> 
>> How much are you asking?
> 
> Good question. It's hard for me to get much idea of realistic value for
> these guitars.
> 
> I'm hoping (possibly vainly) to make enough on them to make a good
> contribution to buying a fairly inexpensive replacement - the sort of
> thing I'm thinking of is probably in the £300 to £500 range.
> 
> According to a luthier friend, the Aria was quoted at about £260 in the 
> "blue book"(?).

> The Vagabond is currently $400 new, plus usual import costs etc...

But mine does have an active pickup, which is $129 extra...

Perhaps £200 ono?

>> And tell me about the LW-12.
> 
> In case you're misled by the name, it's not a 12-string. It's a 6-string
> dreadnought with a cedar top - back and sides I'm not sure about. Basic
> under-the-saddle piezo which sounds OK with some outboard processing.
> 
> Good action and a good sound if you like what dreadnoughts do. It's
> simply not the best size and shape for me, and for what I like to play 
> (more fingerstyle, I guess) it's not the ideal sound either.
> 
> Well used, but not really gigged, and in very good condition. I can 
> probably find a photo if you'd like...

The blue book figure I was given was a few years ago. Given the way the
acoustic guitar market has gone over recent years, I'm not expecting
that much... £200 ono again? (To include a decent padded gig-bag)

Photos of both guitars are at 
<http://www.flickr.com/photos/markbluemel/sets/72157605587688522/>
date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 15:04:53 +0100   author:   Mark Bluemel

Re: Getting rid of guitars...   
"Mark Bluemel"  wrote in message 
news:g2tqo0$kn7$1@aioe.org...
> I've got two guitars (an Aria LW-12 dreadnought acoustic and a Vagabond
> travel guitar - see <http://stringsmith.com>) which are surplus to
> requirements - I don't use the dreadnought as the body shape doesn't
> suit me, and I no longer travel enough to justify the Vagabond.
>
> I'd like to release some funds from them and buy a single guitar which
> fits me better. I'm constitutionally not suited to selling things, and I
> really don't want to get into the hassle of using e-bay, so any
> suggestions before I simply take them to Cash Converters?
>
> I'm in Hampshire if that is relevant.

Cash convertors have a policy of haggling with you over prices. They will ry 
to knock you down as much as possible unlike many other shops. I woudl 
recommend taking some time to sell them via ebay or your local paper. Your 
likely to get a much better return. At least go to cash convertors with an 
open mind and be ready to carry your guitar home again if theprice isn't 
right.

Angof
date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 01:10:50 +0100   author:   Angof

Re: Getting rid of guitars...   
"Angof"  wrote in message 
news:csydnQZkTrDvkc7VnZ2dnUVZ8umdnZ2d@posted.plusnet...
>
> "Mark Bluemel"  wrote in message 
> news:g2tqo0$kn7$1@aioe.org...
>> I've got two guitars (an Aria LW-12 dreadnought acoustic and a Vagabond
>> travel guitar - see <http://stringsmith.com>) which are surplus to
>> requirements - I don't use the dreadnought as the body shape doesn't
>> suit me, and I no longer travel enough to justify the Vagabond.
>>
>> I'd like to release some funds from them and buy a single guitar which
>> fits me better. I'm constitutionally not suited to selling things, and I
>> really don't want to get into the hassle of using e-bay, so any
>> suggestions before I simply take them to Cash Converters?
>>
>> I'm in Hampshire if that is relevant.
>
> Cash convertors have a policy of haggling with you over prices. They will 
> ry to knock you down as much as possible unlike many other shops. I woudl 
> recommend taking some time to sell them via ebay or your local paper. Your 
> likely to get a much better return. At least go to cash convertors with an 
> open mind and be ready to carry your guitar home again if theprice isn't 
> right.
>
> Angof

I got rid of a guitar at Cash Converters once and they checked the prices of 
similar models via eBay and offered a lot less than I would have got on 
eBay. I needed the cash at the time so I agreed but next time will 
definately use eBay.

Fred X
date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 09:10:39 +0100   author:   Fred X

Re: Getting rid of guitars...   
Mark Bluemel wrote:
> JNugent wrote:
> 
>> How much are you asking?
> 
> Good question. It's hard for me to get much idea of realistic value for
> these guitars.
> 
> I'm hoping (possibly vainly) to make enough on them to make a good
> contribution to buying a fairly inexpensive replacement - the sort of
> thing I'm thinking of is probably in the £300 to £500 range.
> 
> According to a luthier friend, the Aria was quoted at about £260 in the 
> "blue book"(?).
> 
> The Vagabond is currently $400 new, plus usual import costs etc...
> 
>> And tell me about the LW-12.
> 
> In case you're misled by the name, it's not a 12-string. It's a 6-string
> dreadnought with a cedar top - back and sides I'm not sure about. Basic
> under-the-saddle piezo which sounds OK with some outboard processing.
> 
> Good action and a good sound if you like what dreadnoughts do. It's
> simply not the best size and shape for me, and for what I like to play 
> (more fingerstyle, I guess) it's not the ideal sound either.
> 
> Well used, but not really gigged, and in very good condition. I can 
> probably find a photo if you'd like...

It's alright thanks.

You guesed it - I thought it might be a 12-string (an acoustic 12 is 
"missing" from my colection).

I already have a quality six-string acoustic!
date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 10:05:35 +0100   author:   JNugent

Re: Getting rid of guitars...   
Fred X wrote:
> "Angof"  wrote in message 
> news:csydnQZkTrDvkc7VnZ2dnUVZ8umdnZ2d@posted.plusnet...
>> "Mark Bluemel"  wrote in message 
>> news:g2tqo0$kn7$1@aioe.org...
>>> I've got two guitars (an Aria LW-12 dreadnought acoustic and a Vagabond
>>> travel guitar - see <http://stringsmith.com>) which are surplus to
>>> requirements - I don't use the dreadnought as the body shape doesn't
>>> suit me, and I no longer travel enough to justify the Vagabond.
>>>
>>> I'd like to release some funds from them and buy a single guitar which
>>> fits me better. I'm constitutionally not suited to selling things, and I
>>> really don't want to get into the hassle of using e-bay, so any
>>> suggestions before I simply take them to Cash Converters?
>>>
>>> I'm in Hampshire if that is relevant.
>> Cash convertors have a policy of haggling with you over prices. They will 
>> ry to knock you down as much as possible unlike many other shops. I woudl 
>> recommend taking some time to sell them via ebay or your local paper. Your 
>> likely to get a much better return. At least go to cash convertors with an 
>> open mind and be ready to carry your guitar home again if theprice isn't 
>> right.
>>
>> Angof
> 
> I got rid of a guitar at Cash Converters once and they checked the prices of 
> similar models via eBay and offered a lot less than I would have got on 
> eBay. I needed the cash at the time so I agreed but next time will 
> definately use eBay.

Cash Converters *have* to work that way. They can't sell a secondhand 
item for more than its general secondhand price, and they have to buy it 
in for less than that if they are to pay wages and run the shop. It's 
never been any different. All shops - and certainly all guitar shops 
with used stock - operate the same way with secondhand goods.
date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 10:08:57 +0100   author:   JNugent

Re: Getting rid of guitars...   
On 18 Jun, 10:08, JNugent  wrote:
> Fred X wrote:
> > "Angof"  wrote in message
> >news:csydnQZkTrDvkc7VnZ2dnUVZ8umdnZ2d@posted.plusnet...
> >> "Mark Bluemel"  wrote in message
> >>news:g2tqo0$kn7$1@aioe.org...
> >>> I've got two guitars (an Aria LW-12 dreadnought acoustic and a Vagabond
> >>> travel guitar - see <http://stringsmith.com>) which are surplus to
> >>> requirements - I don't use the dreadnought as the body shape doesn't
> >>> suit me, and I no longer travel enough to justify the Vagabond.
>
> >>> I'd like to release some funds from them and buy a single guitar which
> >>> fits me better. I'm constitutionally not suited to selling things, and I
> >>> really don't want to get into the hassle of using e-bay, so any
> >>> suggestions before I simply take them to Cash Converters?
>
> >>> I'm in Hampshire if that is relevant.
> >> Cash convertors have a policy of haggling with you over prices. They will
> >> ry to knock you down as much as possible unlike many other shops. I woudl
> >> recommend taking some time to sell them via ebay or your local paper. Your
> >> likely to get a much better return. At least go to cash convertors with an
> >> open mind and be ready to carry your guitar home again if theprice isn't
> >> right.
>
> >> Angof
>
> > I got rid of a guitar at Cash Converters once and they checked the prices of
> > similar models via eBay and offered a lot less than I would have got on
> > eBay. I needed the cash at the time so I agreed but next time will
> > definately use eBay.
>
> Cash Converters *have* to work that way. They can't sell a secondhand
> item for more than its general secondhand price, and they have to buy it
> in for less than that if they are to pay wages and run the shop. It's
> never been any different. All shops - and certainly all guitar shops
> with used stock - operate the same way with secondhand goods.

Indeed - they'll usually only pay around 50-60% of the market value
(unless they're guaranteed a quick turnaround).

Ross.
--
www.rossedwards.net
date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 05:10:53 -0700 (PDT)   author:   Ross Edwards

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