Hi Everyone,
as a frustrated lone player the only way I can see me improving my -
don't laugh - solo playing is to back myself.  There's only so much
you can do rythm-wise to fill in songs.  I wan't to be able to play
rythm and then switch to solo with the rythm continuing  and then
switch back to live rythm playing. Decent drum sequences would also
help and an easy way to sync everything.  I've seen a reference to the
Boss RC50.  From a very brief look at the specs I'm curious whether it
might be the thing for me.  On the other hand, I don't want rocket
science or loads of extra complicating features. Could anyone give me
some idea if this is a sensible way forward or whether another piece
of less complicated gear would suit.

Thanks in advance,

Alan

alan.darlington@marconi.com wrote in news:f6f48815-b8bb-4568-802c-
f75a2df04ab2@34g2000hsh.googlegroups.com:

> Hi Everyone,
> as a frustrated lone player the only way I can see me improving my -
> don't laugh - solo playing is to back myself.  There's only so much
> you can do rythm-wise to fill in songs.  I wan't to be able to play
> rythm and then switch to solo with the rythm continuing  and then
> switch back to live rythm playing. Decent drum sequences would also
> help and an easy way to sync everything.  I've seen a reference to the
> Boss RC50.  From a very brief look at the specs I'm curious whether it
> might be the thing for me.  On the other hand, I don't want rocket
> science or loads of extra complicating features. Could anyone give me
> some idea if this is a sensible way forward or whether another piece
> of less complicated gear would suit.
> 
> Thanks in advance,

RC2 might be a better bet. Cut down version of the RC50 and a third the 
cost.

When I posted this to this group & alt.guitar & alt.guitar.effects I got 
little response,
still try again in your company.

I want (or think I want) a small unit to provide me with Drum / Bass rhythm
patterns & a few effects to plug my guitar into .
I use a old ZOOM general multi-effect unit which has adjustable Drum noises
 but they all sound 'bang bang, tap, tap' (no 'thud' or 'boom') ..very
tiring.
There is also a record 5 sec's loop feature which I can put a chord or 2
into to play with which is better but v. limited.
And I don't like the ZOOM's quality of effects anyway.

I wondered about putting a portable CD player with Accompaniment CD with
some sort of headphone amp for the Guitar.
But I'd like something where I can control a variety of basic backing
sounds.
I tried setups with the Computer but that never seems to work satisfatory
for many reasons.
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(='.'=)
(")_(")  mouse

@@@ I've had a couple of suggestions from else where quoted below:

 "... one of the Boss loopers the big one (RC-50 I think) it
 has quite a lot of good drum sounds in it plus you get to layer guitarparts
over it. As for fx well I dunno of a box that does both.  It may be simpler
buying a cheap drum machine and  keep using your zoom for the fx....."

""I have the smaller RC-2 and it is top fun for exactly that sort of
thing.""

@@@ Also KORG PANDORA  the PX4 is afew years old design but still
around..the most recent PX5 has few reviews

& not very good ones...like maybe its just an elaborated PX4 with USB .

@@@ Also BOSS MICRO BR  http://www.roland.co.uk/microbr.asp

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(")_(")  mouse(again ?)

In article ,
 soupdragon  wrote:

> alan.darlington@marconi.com wrote in news:f6f48815-b8bb-4568-802c-
> f75a2df04ab2@34g2000hsh.googlegroups.com:
> 
> > Hi Everyone,
> > as a frustrated lone player the only way I can see me improving my -
> > don't laugh - solo playing is to back myself.  There's only so much
> > you can do rythm-wise to fill in songs.  I wan't to be able to play
> > rythm and then switch to solo with the rythm continuing  and then
> > switch back to live rythm playing. Decent drum sequences would also
> > help and an easy way to sync everything.  I've seen a reference to the
> > Boss RC50.  From a very brief look at the specs I'm curious whether it
> > might be the thing for me.  On the other hand, I don't want rocket
> > science or loads of extra complicating features. Could anyone give me
> > some idea if this is a sensible way forward or whether another piece
> > of less complicated gear would suit.
> > 
> > Thanks in advance,
> 
> RC2 might be a better bet. Cut down version of the RC50 and a third the 
> cost.

I have one of those. It's great and if you want you can add a switch 
pedal to it that makes it essentially an RC-20. 

Nige.

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I have a Boss RC-50.  My mate has one too.  He's done a lot more with his 
than I have with mine to be fair.  Playing in a rock band as I was when I 
bought it, we needed an easy way of interjecting sounds like police sirens, 
thunder etc... into songs we were covering, and by pre-recording these into 
the RC-50 it was simple to just step on a pedal at the right time, so my 
unit has really done more of that type of thing, which is not necessarily 
what it was designed to do.   However, the RC-50 is very good for solo 
performers to simply lay down layers of backing parts in real time and then 
to play/sing over the top.  The results can be very effective and 
impressive.  There is of course a bit of a learning curve in getting to 
grips with the RC-50.  On the down-side, synchronising with external MIDI 
units like drum machines can be problematic with the RC-50, and as I 
understand it Boss don't really appear to be very interested in resolving 
those issues.  Pity.

I got mine on-line from Brixton Music Exchange, which at the time was 
selling the RC-50 new for a lot less than other on-line stores.

"nickm"  wrote in message 
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> Playing in a rock band as I was when I bought it, we needed an easy way of 
> interjecting sounds like police sirens, thunder etc... into songs we were 
> covering, and by pre-recording these into the RC-50 it was simple to just 
> step on a pedal at the right time, so my unit has really done more of that 
> type of thing, which is not necessarily what it was designed to do.

I used my RC20 for similar spot sound fx in a local theatre. I subsequently 
found this :-

http://www.soundcuesystem.com/features.htm

which I would have used for future projects but probably overkill unless you 
need to use lots of loops and fx.

icarusi
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On 19 May, 00:34, "icarusi"  wrote:
> "nickm"  wrote in message
>
> news:48303201$0$2476$da0feed9@news.zen.co.uk...
>
> > Playing in a rock band as I was when I bought it, we needed an easy way of
> > interjecting sounds like police sirens, thunder etc... into songs we were
> > covering, and by pre-recording these into the RC-50 it was simple to just
> > step on a pedal at the right time, so my unit has really done more of that
> > type of thing, which is not necessarily what it was designed to do.
>
> I used my RC20 for similar spot sound fx in a local theatre. I subsequently
> found this :-
>
> http://www.soundcuesystem.com/features.htm
>
> which I would have used for future projects but probably overkill unless you
> need to use lots of loops and fx.
>
> icarusi
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>
> remove 00 to reply

Hi Everyone,

can I thank you all for your suggestions.  I think the logical way
forward is the RC2 -maybe with footswitch.  I've found a few demos of
it on youtube which proved useful as well.

Cheers,

Alan

alan.darlington@marconi.com wrote:
> Hi Everyone,
> as a frustrated lone player the only way I can see me improving my -
> don't laugh - solo playing is to back myself.  There's only so much
> you can do rythm-wise to fill in songs.  I wan't to be able to play
> rythm and then switch to solo with the rythm continuing  and then
> switch back to live rythm playing. Decent drum sequences would also
> help and an easy way to sync everything.  I've seen a reference to the
> Boss RC50.  From a very brief look at the specs I'm curious whether it
> might be the thing for me.  On the other hand, I don't want rocket
> science or loads of extra complicating features. Could anyone give me
> some idea if this is a sensible way forward or whether another piece
> of less complicated gear would suit.
> 
> Thanks in advance,
> 
> Alan

I have an RC50, and while it's a very capable, powerful and sophistcated 
device, for your particular needs I'd go with an RC2.

Cheers,
Paul