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date: Sun, 4 May 2008 23:16:45 +0100,    group: uk.music.folk        back       
Re: Kelso Folk Club dragged into press feeding frenzy   
In message , David Kilpatrick 
 writes
>We have a web page up with links to some of the press stories:
>
>http://www.kelsofolk.co.uk/index.php/2008/05/03/good-formby-bad-form-clu
>b-hits-the-headlines/

Interesting. "politically conscious New Age".

I've yet to meet anyone that I would consider to be "new age" to be so 
limited in their outlook.

Taken to extremes, over a long period of time, the attitude expressed by 
the protesters could ultimately mean certain parts of history are 
effectively air-brushed out of history, simply by omission. I struggle 
with the concept of being politically conscious while at the same time 
being unaware of the past because "we don't talk about that anymore".

Having read the lyrics I almost feel as if I should learn to sing (I 
can't sing, really), so I can sing songs like this in protest to the 
behaviour of people like your protesters.

And from a different newspaper, quoting the people protesting:
"There have been people of ethnic origin who have gone along to the club 
nights and have simply not gone back."

Gosh. And have there been people of a non-ethic (*) been there and not 
gone back? Of course there have. Talk about selective in the 
interpretation of peoples choices and actions. Perhaps they didn't like 
the music or songs, and perhaps that had nothing to do with the words 
and everything to do with the performance, or just that they can't make 
it this week?

I would be interesting if the matter is taken to the police. If he 
really believes in his protest he will attend the club and will hear the 
song so that he can carry through his threat. Otherwise, the protests 
are somewhat cowardly.

Do we have a right to free speech in this country? Does that right cover 
already existing songs of historical record (as opposed to a modern song 
written since the hate laws deliberately composed to engender feelings 
of hate)?

Stephen
* whatever that vacuous phrase means - perhaps "ethnic" means non-white, 
non-English, non-UK, no-whoever is living here already. If anything the 
use of "ethnic" in his phrasing is incorrect/racist - the ethnic people 
are from here, the UK, the non-ethnic are from somewhere else. Discuss.

living in East Anglia, which according to some people and many surveys 
is awash with immigrants, I meet them all the time. I've yet to meet one 
that is deserving of the crap piled upon them by the media. Which is why 
I'm so harsh on people that complain about racism completing missing the 
point of the context from whence these songs came.

This sort of crap really does make my blood boil. I'm despite the above 
text, really, lost for words about this crap.

Don't worry, you are safe. I won't try to learn to sing. I might just 
get a T-shirt with the lyrics printed instead. It'll offend less people 
than my singing will.
-- 
Stephen Kellett
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date: Sun, 4 May 2008 23:16:45 +0100   author:   Stephen Kellett

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