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date: Sat, 09 Feb 2008 01:52:35 +0000,    group: uk.music.folk        back       
Beauties of Niel Gow Book 1896 on ebay.   
Item Id:
250214181603

A nice book to have but it is shabby chic!. Having to downsize my
music bookds.


Selkie
date: Sat, 09 Feb 2008 01:52:35 +0000   author:   Temprance

Re: Beauties of Niel Gow Book 1896 on ebay.   
Temprance  wrote:

> Item Id:
> 250214181603

Haven't looked at the auction site, but are you sure about the date?
It was first published in 1819 and I doubt there was a reprint until
the late twentieth century.  Did you mean 1986?

==== j a c k  at  c a m p i n . m e . u k  ===  <http://www.campin.me.uk> ====
Jack Campin, 11 Third St, Newtongrange EH22 4PU, Scotland == mob 07800 739 557
CD-ROMs and free stuff:  Scottish music, food intolerance, and Mac logic fonts
date: Sun, 10 Feb 2008 12:53:49 +0000   author:   Jack Campin - bogus address

Re: Beauties of Niel Gow Book 1896 on ebay.   
On Sun, 10 Feb 2008 12:53:49 +0000, Jack Campin - bogus address
 wrote:

>Temprance  wrote:
>
>> Item Id:
>> 250214181603
>
>Haven't looked at the auction site, but are you sure about the date?
>It was first published in 1819 and I doubt there was a reprint until
>the late twentieth century.  Did you mean 1986?
>
>==== j a c k  at  c a m p i n . m e . u k  ===  <http://www.campin.me.uk> ====
>Jack Campin, 11 Third St, Newtongrange EH22 4PU, Scotland == mob 07800 739 557
>CD-ROMs and free stuff:  Scottish music, food intolerance, and Mac logic fonts

I don't have the date it was published. What I have is the inscription
inside the front cover which is dated 1896. I'll amend the wording a
bit. That means it must have been published in 1819 then.
Just checked again and it is very clear on the date .To Thomas (can't
read surname, (maybe wrighton)on his birthday 10th September 1896.

Part three, above the first piece of music says To the Noblemen and
Gentlemen of the Caledonian Hunt. 

I have been in touch with the Museum at Dundee and was told what I had
was a goodly collection. It is Shabby but over a 100 years old it's
faring better than I am.

Jacqui
date: Mon, 11 Feb 2008 00:45:31 +0000   author:   Temprance

Re: Beauties of Niel Gow Book 1896 on ebay.   
Temprance wrote:
> On Sun, 10 Feb 2008 12:53:49 +0000, Jack Campin - bogus address
>  wrote:
> 
>> Temprance  wrote:
>>
>>> Item Id:
>>> 250214181603
>> Haven't looked at the auction site, but are you sure about the date?
>> It was first published in 1819 and I doubt there was a reprint until
>> the late twentieth century.  Did you mean 1986?
>>
>> ==== j a c k  at  c a m p i n . m e . u k  ===  <http://www.campin.me.uk> ====
>> Jack Campin, 11 Third St, Newtongrange EH22 4PU, Scotland == mob 07800 739 557
>> CD-ROMs and free stuff:  Scottish music, food intolerance, and Mac logic fonts
> 
> I don't have the date it was published. What I have is the inscription
> inside the front cover which is dated 1896. I'll amend the wording a
> bit. That means it must have been published in 1819 then.
> Just checked again and it is very clear on the date .To Thomas (can't
> read surname, (maybe wrighton)on his birthday 10th September 1896.
> 
> Part three, above the first piece of music says To the Noblemen and
> Gentlemen of the Caledonian Hunt. 
> 
> I have been in touch with the Museum at Dundee and was told what I had
> was a goodly collection. It is Shabby but over a 100 years old it's
> faring better than I am.
> 


It doesn't look like 1819 to me. The footnotes and typography look like 
a mid to late Victorian printing. I've got plenty of music from around 
the 1800-1820 era and it generally doesn't look like that. The covers 
are definitely not 1819.

The handwritten sheet is by a left-handed fiddler, or someone with very 
strange musical training as all the notes have their heads on backwards 
for the direction of the tails. It looks like a country music teacher's 
sheet given to a pupil.

I would be interested but for the condition, it's a bit expensive for 
the type of printwork/cover involved. I prefer the really old books 
which are printed and bound a different way entirely, at least in this 
price range. But I have not seen any for a long time.

David
date: Mon, 11 Feb 2008 01:26:11 +0000   author:   David Kilpatrick

Re: Beauties of Niel Gow Book 1896 on ebay.   
>>> Item Id: 250214181603
>> Haven't looked at the auction site, but are you sure about the date?
>> It was first published in 1819 and I doubt there was a reprint until
>> the late twentieth century.  Did you mean 1986?
> I don't have the date it was published. What I have is the inscription
> inside the front cover which is dated 1896. I'll amend the wording a
> bit. That means it must have been published in 1819 then.
> Just checked again and it is very clear on the date .To Thomas (can't
> read surname, (maybe wrighton)on his birthday 10th September 1896.

Wighton?  Maybe a relative of the guy who assembled the Wighton
Collection, now in Dundee Library?  If so I'd guess the Dundee
library might want to bid on it.

Looking at your listing, the engraver named is different from the one
Nathaniel Gow used, so it probably is a reprint (I have a facsimile
of part 2 only).  But it's probably rarer than the original, and that
pasted-in manuscript sheet is an interesting plus - XEROX IT!  None
of those three titles is known to Gore's Scottish Fiddle Music Index.
(I would guess the Hamilton Palace Quickstep dates from shortly after
the palace was refurbished in 1842, and certainly before it started
falling apart in the 1880s).  Craigthornhill is an obscure place near
Strathaven, and it could only have had a tune named after it by a local
musician, so those two tunes tell you where the former owner lived.
It should be quite easy to pin down exactly who he was.  (Liz Doherty
at the RSAMD was interested in music books by fiddlers from South-West
Scotland at one point, I think she did a PhD thesis on them).

==== j a c k  at  c a m p i n . m e . u k  ===  <http://www.campin.me.uk> ====
Jack Campin, 11 Third St, Newtongrange EH22 4PU, Scotland == mob 07800 739 557
CD-ROMs and free stuff:  Scottish music, food intolerance, and Mac logic fonts
date: Mon, 11 Feb 2008 01:41:14 +0000   author:   Jack Campin - bogus address

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