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date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 13:01:32 +0100,
group: uk.music.folk
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Licensing - LGA error key to live music policy
The following from Hamish Birchall http://www.livemusicforum.co.uk/
A leaked Local Government Association email, and the Facebook website of LGA
Culture Committee chairman Chris White, suggest that his erroneous 80% gig
venues claim was key to LGA opposition to new exemptions for small gigs.
As the government confirmed last month, the proportion of licensed venues
authorised for live music is closer to 40%.
The email, which dates from April this year, outlines LGA strategy on
licensing and live music. It leads with this statement under the heading
'Licensed Premises - LGA view':
'Of the 113,000 premises licensed for the sale of alcohol, around 91,000
already have live music as part of this licence. This number has risen by
8% in the last year. This leaves 22,000 premises that will benefit directly
from the new Minor Variations process.'
91,000 is 80% of 113,000 and is almost certainly the source of Mr White's
80% claim. But this is a misreading of the DCMS alcohol and entertainment
statistics: a confusion of the estimated number of venues where some form of
entertainment is authorised with the total number of licensed premises. See
8th and 9th bullet point:
http://www.culture.gov.uk/images/research/AE-Statistics-bulletin-2008.pdf
The LGA email goes on to list proposed actions, including the formation of a
'working party' with the Musicians Union and UK Music to 'develop a
promotional implementation pack for councils to promote the 'minor
variations' amendment. Interestingly, it concludes: 'A successful roll out
of this work implies a burden on local authorities and would be contingent
on DCMS addressing - to an extent - the present under funding of the
licensing regime.'
Given that LGA promotion of 'minor variations' is now underway, perhaps DCMS
has promised to address this funding question.
And what of Chris White, who has been campaigning vigorously on Facebook for
re-election as Chair of the LGA Culture, Media and Sport Committee?
His public Facebook group 'Chris White for LGA Culture, Tourism and Sport
Chair' includes a self-promoting Powerpoint-style slide headed 'Efforts and
Achievements - Licensing'. The last bullet point states:
'Worked with DCMS and Feargal Sharkey to find a workable and safe solution
to perceived problems in the Act for live music.'
If you truly believed that 80% of bars were licensed for live music you
might wonder what musicians and the music industry were fussing about. But,
apart from his fundamental statistical error, there is a patronising
undertone. He insinuates misleadingly that live music generally is unsafe,
and that the 'problems' are perceived, not real.
Of course, UK Music, for which Feargal Sharkey is chief executive, yesterday
publicly distanced itself from the LGA live music strategy reported in the
LGA article 'Striking the right note', and forced an LGA apology for
misrepresenting its views:
http://www.lga.gov.uk/lga/core/page.do?pageId=2765113
Over the past year or more, Chris White has been responsible for leading the
LGA strategy on live music and licensing. But given his careless
misinterpretation of key statistics and the outrageous licensing
restrictions on live music imposed by his own St Albans council, is he
really a suitable candidate for chair of the LGA Culture, Media and Sport
Committee?
ENDS
date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 13:01:32 +0100
author: Roger Gall
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Re: Licensing - LGA error key to live music policy
At 13:01:32 on Thu, 6 Aug 2009, Roger Gall
wrote in :
>The following from Hamish Birchall http://www.livemusicforum.co.uk/
You, know, Roger, it would be awfully useful if you could put all of
these posts in just the one thread, each one "replying" to a previous
one. Keeps the information together, and those who want to read it all
know where to find it, and those who don't want to read it all can just
leave that one thread alone.
--
Molly Mockford
They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety
deserve neither liberty nor safety - Benjamin Franklin
(My Reply-To address *is* valid, though may not remain so for ever.)
date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 13:45:29 +0100
author: Molly Mockford
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Re: Licensing - LGA error key to live music policy
"Molly Mockford" wrote in message
news:79Ey0nApBteKFwW9@molly.mockford...
> At 13:01:32 on Thu, 6 Aug 2009, Roger Gall
> wrote in :
>
>>The following from Hamish Birchall http://www.livemusicforum.co.uk/
>
> You, know, Roger, it would be awfully useful if you could put all of these
> posts in just the one thread, each one "replying" to a previous one.
> Keeps the information together, and those who want to read it all know
> where to find it, and those who don't want to read it all can just leave
> that one thread alone.
Seconded. Roger's posts are informative, and I'm supportive. But he's in
danger of being perceived as spamming this ng.
Steve
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http://www.fivetrees.com
date: Fri, 7 Aug 2009 00:13:33 +0100
author: Steve at fivetrees
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Re: Licensing - LGA error key to live music policy
At 00:13:33 on Fri, 7 Aug 2009, Steve at fivetrees
wrote in
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>"Molly Mockford" wrote in message
>news:79Ey0nApBteKFwW9@molly.mockford...
>> At 13:01:32 on Thu, 6 Aug 2009, Roger Gall
>> wrote in :
>>
>>>The following from Hamish Birchall http://www.livemusicforum.co.uk/
>>
>> You, know, Roger, it would be awfully useful if you could put all of these
>> posts in just the one thread, each one "replying" to a previous one.
>> Keeps the information together, and those who want to read it all know
>> where to find it, and those who don't want to read it all can just leave
>> that one thread alone.
>
>Seconded. Roger's posts are informative, and I'm supportive. But he's in
>danger of being perceived as spamming this ng.
Ah well, I guess Roger disagrees, seeing as how he has just started a
brand-new topic for yet another of Hamish Birchall's press releases.
Well, it was worth a try.
--
Molly Mockford
They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety
deserve neither liberty nor safety - Benjamin Franklin
(My Reply-To address *is* valid, though may not remain so for ever.)
date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 00:23:51 +0100
author: Molly Mockford
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Re: Licensing - LGA error key to live music policy
Molly Mockford wrote:
> Ah well, I guess Roger disagrees, seeing as how he has just started a
> brand-new topic for yet another of Hamish Birchall's press releases.
>
> Well, it was worth a try.
He probably didn't see the suggestion, lost as it was in the
immense flood of other posts...
JF
date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 03:15:41 +0100
author: JF
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