?

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"Peter Thomas" <peterdoubled@doubledemon.co.uk.invalid> wrote in message 
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> In message , Gill Smith 
>  writes
>>?
> Not so much a one-liner as an eccentric character?

I was wondering who'd be the more 'offended', rappers or folkies, given the 
current blacking up controversy,

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At 19:53:57 on Thu, 2 Jul 2009, Gill Smith 
 wrote in 
:

>I was wondering who'd be the more 'offended', rappers or folkies, given the
>current blacking up controversy,

Rappers *are* folkies - see <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rapper_sword>.
-- 
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deserve neither liberty nor safety - Benjamin Franklin
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On Thu, 2 Jul 2009 23:17:26 +0100, Molly Mockford
 wrote:

>At 19:53:57 on Thu, 2 Jul 2009, Gill Smith 
> wrote in 
>:
>
>>I was wondering who'd be the more 'offended', rappers or folkies, given the
>>current blacking up controversy,
>
>Rappers *are* folkies - see <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rapper_sword>.

Well, we don't see music being written by horses, so it could be
argued that all music is folk, since folks write it all.  (Running
away now before I get hit...)

Karen R.

Hi

Going back more years than I care to remember, I heard a superb rap
version of Stanley Holloway's "Battle of Hastings" at a folk festival
- I cannot remember which festival but it was in a field behind a pub
(possibly Knockerdown near Ashbourne in Derbyshire).

I forget who performed it but it included the inspired - "And Harold
got shot in the eye.  It would have been supa if he'd been in BUPA"

Regards
KGB

"Karen Rodgers" <not@a.valid.address.for.newsgroups> wrote in message 
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> On Thu, 2 Jul 2009 23:17:26 +0100, Molly Mockford
>  wrote:
>
>>At 19:53:57 on Thu, 2 Jul 2009, Gill Smith
>> wrote in
>>:
>>
>>>I was wondering who'd be the more 'offended', rappers or folkies, given 
>>>the
>>>current blacking up controversy,
>>
>>Rappers *are* folkies - see <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rapper_sword>.
>
> Well, we don't see music being written by horses, so it could be
> argued that all music is folk, since folks write it all.  (Running
> away now before I get hit...)

Maybe not writted but parrots (and other songbirds) have been sampling for a 
very long time

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At 09:04:11 on Fri, 3 Jul 2009, KGB  
wrote in :

>Hi
>
>Going back more years than I care to remember, I heard a superb rap
>version of Stanley Holloway's "Battle of Hastings" at a folk festival
>- I cannot remember which festival but it was in a field behind a pub
>(possibly Knockerdown near Ashbourne in Derbyshire).

It was performed way back by Stanley Holloway, but he didn't write it. 
It was written in 1933 (14 years before BUPA existed) by Marriott Edgar 
- see <http://oldpoetry.com/oauthor/show/Marriott_Edgar>.

>I forget who performed it but it included the inspired - "And Harold
>got shot in the eye.  It would have been supa if he'd been in BUPA"

And that's certainly a new interpolation!  But people do all kinds of 
things with the original - Les Barker does the sort of version that 
makes you wish you'd gone to the lavatory before he started.

But then, most of Les Barker's stuff has that effect.
-- 
Molly Mockford
They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety
deserve neither liberty nor safety - Benjamin Franklin
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On Fri, 3 Jul 2009 12:49:21 +0100, Molly Mockford
 wrote:

>At 09:04:11 on Fri, 3 Jul 2009, KGB  
>wrote in :
>
>>Hi
>>
>>Going back more years than I care to remember, I heard a superb rap
>>version of Stanley Holloway's "Battle of Hastings" at a folk festival
>>- I cannot remember which festival but it was in a field behind a pub
>>(possibly Knockerdown near Ashbourne in Derbyshire).
>
>It was performed way back by Stanley Holloway, but he didn't write it. 
>It was written in 1933 (14 years before BUPA existed) by Marriott Edgar 
>- see <http://oldpoetry.com/oauthor/show/Marriott_Edgar>.

Hi

Actually, point taken - I am aware of that.

In fact, I have an early (first edition??) copy of the book containing
the poem.  On the front it says "Albert, 'Arold and Others; compiled
and written by Marriott Edgar; Performed by Stanley Holloway and
Marriott Edgar."  It contains "The Lion & Albert" "The return of
Albert" "Marksman Sam" and several more - including "The Battle of
Hastings".

According to the cover, the cost when new was the princely sum of 4/-
(four shillings - 20p to those born after decimalisation) and was
published by Francis, Day & Hunter.  I suspect it could be worth a bit
more than that now.

My parents had the book when I was very young and they also had a
second volume containing even more poems by Marriott Edgar, which I
think may have been called "Albert comes Back"  but I don't know what
happened to that - it vanished a long, long, time ago.

Regards
KGB

On Fri, 3 Jul 2009 11:09:15 +0100, "Gill Smith"
 wrote:


>>>Rappers *are* folkies - see <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rapper_sword>.
>>
>> Well, we don't see music being written by horses, so it could be
>> argued that all music is folk, since folks write it all.  (Running
>> away now before I get hit...)
>
>Maybe not writted but parrots (and other songbirds) have been sampling for a 
>very long time

I know.  But it was a joke I couldn't resist.

Karen R.

At 11:42:20 on Fri, 3 Jul 2009, Karen Rodgers 
<not@a.valid.address.for.newsgroups> wrote in 
:

>On Fri, 3 Jul 2009 11:09:15 +0100, "Gill Smith"
> wrote:

"Karen Rodgers" <not@a.valid.address.for.newsgroups> wrote in message 
news:lnhq4512ktd8d3lucoqc6m5edi8ehb193j@4ax.com...
>
>>> Well, we don't see music being written by horses, so it could be
>>> argued that all music is folk, since folks write it all.  (Running
>>> away now before I get hit...)
>>
>>Maybe not writted but parrots (and other songbirds) have been sampling for a
>>very long time
>
>I know.  But it was a joke I couldn't resist.

Especially since you were the very first person ever to make it in this 
newsgroup...

<http://www.lesession.co.uk/umf/umf_faq.htm#horse>
-- 
Molly Mockford
They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety
deserve neither liberty nor safety - Benjamin Franklin
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On Fri, 3 Jul 2009 19:54:15 +0100, Molly Mockford
 wrote:

>At 11:42:20 on Fri, 3 Jul 2009, Karen Rodgers 
><not@a.valid.address.for.newsgroups> wrote in 
>:
>
>>On Fri, 3 Jul 2009 11:09:15 +0100, "Gill Smith"
>> wrote:
>
>"Karen Rodgers" <not@a.valid.address.for.newsgroups> wrote in message 
>news:lnhq4512ktd8d3lucoqc6m5edi8ehb193j@4ax.com...
>>
>>>> Well, we don't see music being written by horses, so it could be
>>>> argued that all music is folk, since folks write it all.  (Running
>>>> away now before I get hit...)
>>>
>>>Maybe not writted but parrots (and other songbirds) have been sampling for a
>>>very long time
>>
>>I know.  But it was a joke I couldn't resist.
>
>Especially since you were the very first person ever to make it in this 
>newsgroup...
>
><http://www.lesession.co.uk/umf/umf_faq.htm#horse>

I suspect it was old even in the days of ARPAnet...

Karen R.

Molly Mockford wrote:
 > They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
 > safety
 > deserve neither liberty nor safety - Benjamin Franklin


Or, more contemporarily:
"Never confuse convenience for freedom." (Richard Stallman)