On Tue, 08 Jul 2008 16:24:38 +0000, The Doctor wrote:

> In article , Dave Cross 
>  wrote:
>>On Tue, 08 Jul 2008 03:32:29 +0000, The Doctor wrote:
>>
>>> In article <6xxck.170029$8k.26435@newsfe18.ams2>, Stephen Wilson
>>>  wrote:
>>>>
>>>>"The Doctor"  wrote in message
>>>>news:g4u7ss$fb4$8@gallifrey.nk.ca...
>>>>> In article <Tkxck.170023$8k.21796@newsfe18.ams2>, Stephen Wilson
>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"The Doctor"  wrote in message
>>>>>>news:g4u62o$d6v$20@gallifrey.nk.ca...
>>>>>>> In article <a_vck.253892$1B6.122076@newsfe21.ams2>, Stephen Wilson
>>>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>"The Doctor"  wrote in message
>>>>>>>>news:g4rj8i$p6n$54@gallifrey.nk.ca...
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Still a relativist argument.  I disagree.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>You disagree what? That any of the examples I gave were rules
>>>>>>>>>>defined in
>>>>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>>>Bible? Where? You disagree that you made a personal opinion? God
>>>>>>>>>>told you
>>>>>>>>>>these things were evil?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Sorry Yads, you've got nothing there to disagree on. you're
>>>>>>>>>>talking complete
>>>>>>>>>>rubbish. As usual.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Your just justifiy to said norms change as time moves on. This
>>>>>>>>> is relativism.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Is it evil to own a slave? Well you just said that it is. But in
>>>>>>>>Biblical
>>>>>>>>times it wasn't.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Is it good to work hard and earn money? You said yes. Jesus said
>>>>>>>>that it is
>>>>>>>>easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than for a
>>>>>>>>rich man
>>>>>>>>to enter the kingdom of God.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Is it good to take illegal drugs? You said no. Who decides which
>>>>>>>>drugs are
>>>>>>>>illegal? Answer - the government. Do they change their mind? Yes.
>>>>>>>>Example.
>>>>>>>>In the 1920s, America declared that alcohol was an illegal drug.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>So it's actually you that has proved that norms change.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And slavery?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Yes. And slavery.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> What about those today who cannot earn a decent wage?
>>>>
>>>>I don't know. What about them? You tell me.
>>>>
>>> That's slavery.
>>
>>It really isn't.
> 
> Scraping by and cannot quit your post not slavery?

Not necessarily. Slavery has a specific meaning. A slave is property. He 
is owned by his master. It's not about earning a decent wage, it's about 
the dynamics of the relationship.

Read a book please. Actually, I believe this is one area where the bible 
might help. I think it contains some pretty good descriptions of slavery. 
And I'm pretty sure it comes out pretty much in favour of slavery.

Dave...