On Mon, 07 Jul 2008 15:42:48 +0000, The Doctor wrote:

> In article , Dave Cross 
>  wrote:
>>On Mon, 07 Jul 2008 14:27:10 +0000, The Doctor wrote:
>>
>>> In article , Dave Cross
>>>  wrote:
>>>>On Sun, 06 Jul 2008 21:04:42 +0000, The Doctor wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> In article , Dave Cross
>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>>On Sun, 06 Jul 2008 14:04:24 +0000, The Doctor wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In article , Dave Cross
>>>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>>>>On Sat, 05 Jul 2008 17:31:28 +0000, The Doctor wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> In article <jHMbk.197024$Ek2.96836@newsfe17.ams2>, Stephen
>>>>>>>>> Wilson  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>"The Doctor"  wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>news:g4o1a1$3tc$26@gallifrey.nk.ca...
>>>>>>>>>>> In article <YyKbk.234120$M63.102413@newsfe13.ams2>, Stephen
>>>>>>>>>>> Wilson  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>"The Doctor"  wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>news:g4nqvj$3tc$4@gallifrey.nk.ca...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>And evil doesn't need to be explained. It's just people
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>being people. Some people just choose to act outside of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>cultural norms.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Irrational argument.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>It's not an argument, it's a statement. And there's nothing
>>>>>>>>>>>>irrational about
>>>>>>>>>>>>it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Evil does not need to be explained?  Cop Out!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Your explanation is the cop out.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Sorry, but ignoring evil gives it the power to be bad.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>No-one said anything about ignoring evil.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>In my opinion, evil should be countered whenever possible. It
>>>>>>>>doesn't matter whether it was caused by psychological factors or a
>>>>>>>>mythical beast.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Explain the  psychological factors.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>No. For one thing, I'm not a psychologist. And for another, it
>>>>>>doesn't matter.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Really, what practical difference does it make to your everyday life
>>>>>>where evil comes from? Evil is evil. We just need to deal with it.
>>>>> 
>>>>> And its root causes?
>>>>
>>>>Well, I think we'll have far more success fighting its real root
>>>>causes (psychological, sociological or whatever) than we would
>>>>fighting a mythical devil.
>>>>
>>> And what are the real root causes?
>>
>>Read what I wrote.
> 
> You have not answered the question.

I'm not a psychologist, a sociologist or any other kind of scientist who 
specialises in this area or human behaviour. I've answered in as much 
detail as I intend to. If you want any more details then read a book.

Dave...

In article ,
Dave Cross   wrote:
>On Mon, 07 Jul 2008 22:21:13 +0000, The Doctor wrote:
>
>> In article , Dave Cross 
>>  wrote:
>>>On Mon, 07 Jul 2008 15:42:48 +0000, The Doctor wrote:
>>>
>>>> In article , Dave Cross
>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>On Mon, 07 Jul 2008 14:27:10 +0000, The Doctor wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> In article , Dave Cross
>>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>>>On Sun, 06 Jul 2008 21:04:42 +0000, The Doctor wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> In article , Dave Cross
>>>>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>On Sun, 06 Jul 2008 14:04:24 +0000, The Doctor wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> In article , Dave Cross
>>>>>>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>On Sat, 05 Jul 2008 17:31:28 +0000, The Doctor wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> In article <jHMbk.197024$Ek2.96836@newsfe17.ams2>, Stephen
>>>>>>>>>>>> Wilson  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>"The Doctor"  wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>>news:g4o1a1$3tc$26@gallifrey.nk.ca...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In article <YyKbk.234120$M63.102413@newsfe13.ams2>, Stephen
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Wilson  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>"The Doctor"  wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>news:g4nqvj$3tc$4@gallifrey.nk.ca...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>And evil doesn't need to be explained. It's just people
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>being people. Some people just choose to act outside of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>cultural norms.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Irrational argument.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>It's not an argument, it's a statement. And there's nothing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>irrational about
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Evil does not need to be explained?  Cop Out!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>Your explanation is the cop out.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Sorry, but ignoring evil gives it the power to be bad.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>No-one said anything about ignoring evil.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>In my opinion, evil should be countered whenever possible. It
>>>>>>>>>>>doesn't matter whether it was caused by psychological factors or
>>>>>>>>>>>a mythical beast.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Explain the  psychological factors.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>No. For one thing, I'm not a psychologist. And for another, it
>>>>>>>>>doesn't matter.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Really, what practical difference does it make to your everyday
>>>>>>>>>life where evil comes from? Evil is evil. We just need to deal
>>>>>>>>>with it.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> And its root causes?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Well, I think we'll have far more success fighting its real root
>>>>>>>causes (psychological, sociological or whatever) than we would
>>>>>>>fighting a mythical devil.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> And what are the real root causes?
>>>>>
>>>>>Read what I wrote.
>>>> 
>>>> You have not answered the question.
>>>
>>>I'm not a psychologist, a sociologist or any other kind of scientist who
>>>specialises in this area or human behaviour. I've answered in as much
>>>detail as I intend to. If you want any more details then read a book.
>>>
>> Including Freud.
>
>I think you'll find that Freud is a psychiatrist, not a psychologist. 
>But, yes, his books would certainly be a better place to start than the 
>bible :)
>
>I think Jung has rather a lot to say on this too.
>
>Dave...

And maybe the Communist Manifesto.
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