Not Doctor Who, but almost as good. 

The missing scenes from Fitz Lang's Metropolis have
been rediscovered after going missing for 80 years.
Restoration of the film to its former glory has begun.

http://www.zeit.de/online/2008/27/metropolis-vorab-englisch


This appears to be genuine.


At this rate, they'll get back Power Of The Daleks in about 2050.
We can always hope.

"Peter Morris"  wrote in message 
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> Not Doctor Who, but almost as good.
> The missing scenes from Fitz Lang's Metropolis have
> been rediscovered after going missing for 80 years.
> Restoration of the film to its former glory has begun.
>
> http://www.zeit.de/online/2008/27/metropolis-vorab-englisch
>
>
> This appears to be genuine.
>
>
> At this rate, they'll get back Power Of The Daleks in about 2050.
> We can always hope.

Wow, that`s pretty amazing. I`ve never seen this film but have always been 
aware of it`s classic status and the legendary "lost" version. Should 
probably make an effort to see it now...and this naturally gives me hope 
that some more missing Troughton could still yet be out there! If a private 
collector can have such a famous film as this and be unaware of it`s worth 
then surely someone could have some old Who...

In article <ftcbk.20390$E41.1959@text.news.virginmedia.com>,
Peter Morris  wrote:
>Not Doctor Who, but almost as good. 
>
>The missing scenes from Fitz Lang's Metropolis have
>been rediscovered after going missing for 80 years.
>Restoration of the film to its former glory has begun.
>
>http://www.zeit.de/online/2008/27/metropolis-vorab-englisch
>
>
>This appears to be genuine.
>
>
>At this rate, they'll get back Power Of The Daleks in about 2050.
>We can always hope.

Fingerrs crossed.
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In article ,
Soze  wrote:
>
>"Peter Morris"  wrote in message 
>news:ftcbk.20390$E41.1959@text.news.virginmedia.com...
>> Not Doctor Who, but almost as good.
>> The missing scenes from Fitz Lang's Metropolis have
>> been rediscovered after going missing for 80 years.
>> Restoration of the film to its former glory has begun.
>>
>> http://www.zeit.de/online/2008/27/metropolis-vorab-englisch
>>
>>
>> This appears to be genuine.
>>
>>
>> At this rate, they'll get back Power Of The Daleks in about 2050.
>> We can always hope.
>
>Wow, that`s pretty amazing. I`ve never seen this film but have always been 
>aware of it`s classic status and the legendary "lost" version. Should 
>probably make an effort to see it now...and this naturally gives me hope 
>that some more missing Troughton could still yet be out there! If a private 
>collector can have such a famous film as this and be unaware of it`s worth 
>then surely someone could have some old Who... 
>
>

At least it is a clip.
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Learn to spell

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"The Doctor"  wrote in message
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> In article <ftcbk.20390$E41.1959@text.news.virginmedia.com>,
> Peter Morris  wrote:
> >Not Doctor Who, but almost as good.
> >
> >The missing scenes from Fitz Lang's Metropolis have
> >been rediscovered after going missing for 80 years.
> >Restoration of the film to its former glory has begun.
> >
> >http://www.zeit.de/online/2008/27/metropolis-vorab-englisch
> >
> >
> >This appears to be genuine.
> >
> >
> >At this rate, they'll get back Power Of The Daleks in about 2050.
> >We can always hope.
>
> Fingerrs crossed.
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How do you now what it is

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> In article ,
> Soze  wrote:
> >
> >"Peter Morris"  wrote in message
> >news:ftcbk.20390$E41.1959@text.news.virginmedia.com...
> >> Not Doctor Who, but almost as good.
> >> The missing scenes from Fitz Lang's Metropolis have
> >> been rediscovered after going missing for 80 years.
> >> Restoration of the film to its former glory has begun.
> >>
> >> http://www.zeit.de/online/2008/27/metropolis-vorab-englisch
> >>
> >>
> >> This appears to be genuine.
> >>
> >>
> >> At this rate, they'll get back Power Of The Daleks in about 2050.
> >> We can always hope.
> >
> >Wow, that`s pretty amazing. I`ve never seen this film but have always
been
> >aware of it`s classic status and the legendary "lost" version. Should
> >probably make an effort to see it now...and this naturally gives me hope
> >that some more missing Troughton could still yet be out there! If a
private
> >collector can have such a famous film as this and be unaware of it`s
worth
> >then surely someone could have some old Who...
> >
> >
>
> At least it is a clip.
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"Top Poster" <Top Poster@ Poster.com> wrote in message 
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> Learn to spell

Please, TP, I'm begging you cease your attacks. Please don't derail this 
thread
with another of your tirades. Just this once let it go, okay?

"Soze"  wrote in message 
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>
> "Peter Morris"  wrote in message 
> news:ftcbk.20390$E41.1959@text.news.virginmedia.com...
>> Not Doctor Who, but almost as good.
>> The missing scenes from Fitz Lang's Metropolis have
>> been rediscovered after going missing for 80 years.
>> Restoration of the film to its former glory has begun.
>>
>> http://www.zeit.de/online/2008/27/metropolis-vorab-englisch
>>
>>
>> This appears to be genuine.
>>
>>
>> At this rate, they'll get back Power Of The Daleks in about 2050.
>> We can always hope.
>
> Wow, that`s pretty amazing. I`ve never seen this film but have always been 
> aware of it`s classic status and the legendary "lost" version. Should 
> probably make an effort to see it now...and this naturally gives me hope 
> that some more missing Troughton could still yet be out there! If a 
> private collector can have such a famous film as this and be unaware of 
> it`s worth then surely someone could have some old Who...
I remember this the first time around....how sad is that? It had some cool 
effects at the time but it failed to impress story wise. Still, I will 
certainly watch it again for nostaligia.

Baz

In article <TNdbk.20438$E41.5961@text.news.virginmedia.com>,
Peter Morris  wrote:
>
>"Top Poster" <Top Poster@ Poster.com> wrote in message 
>news:g4jp7e$pa7$21@news.datemas.de...
>> Learn to spell
>
>Please, TP, I'm begging you cease your attacks. Please don't derail this 
>thread
>with another of your tirades. Just this once let it go, okay? 
>

Too bad this goof could not be permanently punted from the internet.
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In article <1jebk.181366$Ek2.98536@newsfe17.ams2>,
Bazza  wrote:
>
>"Soze"  wrote in message 
>news:6d52p5Ftv5gU1@mid.individual.net...
>>
>> "Peter Morris"  wrote in message 
>> news:ftcbk.20390$E41.1959@text.news.virginmedia.com...
>>> Not Doctor Who, but almost as good.
>>> The missing scenes from Fitz Lang's Metropolis have
>>> been rediscovered after going missing for 80 years.
>>> Restoration of the film to its former glory has begun.
>>>
>>> http://www.zeit.de/online/2008/27/metropolis-vorab-englisch
>>>
>>>
>>> This appears to be genuine.
>>>
>>>
>>> At this rate, they'll get back Power Of The Daleks in about 2050.
>>> We can always hope.
>>
>> Wow, that`s pretty amazing. I`ve never seen this film but have always been 
>> aware of it`s classic status and the legendary "lost" version. Should 
>> probably make an effort to see it now...and this naturally gives me hope 
>> that some more missing Troughton could still yet be out there! If a 
>> private collector can have such a famous film as this and be unaware of 
>> it`s worth then surely someone could have some old Who...
>I remember this the first time around....how sad is that? It had some cool 
>effects at the time but it failed to impress story wise. Still, I will 
>certainly watch it again for nostaligia.
>
>Baz 
>
>

At least some of it is around.
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"Bazza"  wrote in message 
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>

> I remember this the first time around....how sad is that? It had some cool 
> effects at the time but it failed to impress story wise. Still, I will 
> certainly watch it again for nostaligia.


Really?


I don't think it sad if you remember seeing it. In fact that would be pretty 
amazing.
There's not many people alive today who saw it first time round.

How old are you, if you don't mind me asking?

GIBBERISH

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the thinker must also then question why he was led to believe the erroneous


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> In article <1jebk.181366$Ek2.98536@newsfe17.ams2>,
> Bazza  wrote:
> >
> >"Soze"  wrote in message
> >news:6d52p5Ftv5gU1@mid.individual.net...
> >>
> >> "Peter Morris"  wrote in message
> >> news:ftcbk.20390$E41.1959@text.news.virginmedia.com...
> >>> Not Doctor Who, but almost as good.
> >>> The missing scenes from Fitz Lang's Metropolis have
> >>> been rediscovered after going missing for 80 years.
> >>> Restoration of the film to its former glory has begun.
> >>>
> >>> http://www.zeit.de/online/2008/27/metropolis-vorab-englisch
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> This appears to be genuine.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> At this rate, they'll get back Power Of The Daleks in about 2050.
> >>> We can always hope.
> >>
> >> Wow, that`s pretty amazing. I`ve never seen this film but have always
been
> >> aware of it`s classic status and the legendary "lost" version. Should
> >> probably make an effort to see it now...and this naturally gives me
hope
> >> that some more missing Troughton could still yet be out there! If a
> >> private collector can have such a famous film as this and be unaware of
> >> it`s worth then surely someone could have some old Who...
> >I remember this the first time around....how sad is that? It had some
cool
> >effects at the time but it failed to impress story wise. Still, I will
> >certainly watch it again for nostaligia.
> >
> >Baz
> >
> >
>
> At least some of it is around.
> -- 
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Try again and you will not have any clients

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the thinker must also then question why he was led to believe the erroneous


"The Doctor"  wrote in message
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> In article <TNdbk.20438$E41.5961@text.news.virginmedia.com>,
> Peter Morris  wrote:
> >
> >"Top Poster" <Top Poster@ Poster.com> wrote in message
> >news:g4jp7e$pa7$21@news.datemas.de...
> >> Learn to spell
> >
> >Please, TP, I'm begging you cease your attacks. Please don't derail this
> >thread
> >with another of your tirades. Just this once let it go, okay?
> >
>
> Too bad this goof could not be permanently punted from the internet.
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> Not Doctor Who, but almost as good.
>
> The missing scenes from Fitz Lang's Metropolis have
> been rediscovered after going missing for 80 years.
> Restoration of the film to its former glory has begun.
>
> http://www.zeit.de/online/2008/27/metropolis-vorab-englisch
>
> This appears to be genuine.
>
> At this rate, they'll get back Power Of The Daleks in about 2050.
> We can always hope.

They found the missing scenes?  Darn, there goes my excuse for not
watching it ("Oh, no, I COULDN'T watch Metropolis, it wouldn't be true
to the directors intended vision of the material.").  I guess I'll
just have to use the excuse that until we know the frame-rate the film
should be shown at, even the completed version isn't true to the
directors intent and I couldn't be bothered to watch Metropolis.

Naw, I'm mostly kidding.  I haven't seen Metropolis and I have
(joking) used those two excuses as reasons why but mostly, I just
haven't gotten around to it.  So, I'll just write it here and Peter,
you can hold me to this: "When the previously missing footage is
released to DVD or to a theatre local to me, I will watch it."

"Peter Morris"  wrote in message 
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>
> "Bazza"  wrote in message 
> news:1jebk.181366$Ek2.98536@newsfe17.ams2...
>>
>
>> I remember this the first time around....how sad is that? It had some 
>> cool effects at the time but it failed to impress story wise. Still, I 
>> will certainly watch it again for nostaligia.
>
>
> Really?
>
>
> I don't think it sad if you remember seeing it. In fact that would be 
> pretty amazing.
> There's not many people alive today who saw it first time round.
>
> How old are you, if you don't mind me asking?
Come October I will be entering by 94th year!

Baz

"Peter Morris"  wrote in message 
news:ftcbk.20390$E41.1959@text.news.virginmedia.com...
> Not Doctor Who, but almost as good.
> The missing scenes from Fitz Lang's Metropolis have
> been rediscovered after going missing for 80 years.
> Restoration of the film to its former glory has begun.
>
> http://www.zeit.de/online/2008/27/metropolis-vorab-englisch
>
>
> This appears to be genuine.
>
>
> At this rate, they'll get back Power Of The Daleks in about 2050.
> We can always hope.

Just recently, missong footage has also been found of the Beatles and 
Marilyn. Now this. Lots of valuable missing stuff appearing just when we 
have the technology to digitally recreate realistic looking fakes.

In article ,
Astrobiochemist   wrote:
>
>They found the missing scenes?  Darn, there goes my excuse for not
>watching it ("Oh, no, I COULDN'T watch Metropolis, it wouldn't be true
>to the directors intended vision of the material.").  I guess I'll
>just have to use the excuse that until we know the frame-rate the film
>should be shown at, even the completed version isn't true to the
>directors intent and I couldn't be bothered to watch Metropolis.
>
>Naw, I'm mostly kidding.  I haven't seen Metropolis and I have
>(joking) used those two excuses as reasons why but mostly, I just
>haven't gotten around to it.  So, I'll just write it here and Peter,
>you can hold me to this: "When the previously missing footage is
>released to DVD or to a theatre local to me, I will watch it."


When I went to see the most complete restoration (including the
original music, which plays over slides describing and occasionally
depicting the missing scenes), I already heard a fair number of
people describe the film as too long, so be aware that to a modern
viewer, the pacing is kind of pokey (think of the William Hartnell
episodes and how they compare to the present version).

I am very much looking forward to a complete version, scratches and all.

"Marnok.com"  wrote in message 
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>
> "Peter Morris"  wrote in message 
> news:ftcbk.20390$E41.1959@text.news.virginmedia.com...
>> Not Doctor Who, but almost as good.
>> The missing scenes from Fitz Lang's Metropolis have
>> been rediscovered after going missing for 80 years.
>> Restoration of the film to its former glory has begun.
>>
>> http://www.zeit.de/online/2008/27/metropolis-vorab-englisch
>>
>>
>> This appears to be genuine.
>>
>>
>> At this rate, they'll get back Power Of The Daleks in about 2050.
>> We can always hope.
>
> Just recently, missong footage has also been found of the Beatles and 
> Marilyn. Now this. Lots of valuable missing stuff appearing just when we 
> have the technology to digitally recreate realistic looking fakes.
mmmm...thats a cynical but interesting thought. I wonder?

Baz

On Jul 4, 2:12 am, "Peter Morris"  wrote:
> "Bazza"  wrote in message
>
> news:1jebk.181366$Ek2.98536@newsfe17.ams2...
>
>
>
> > I remember this the first time around....how sad is that? It had some cool
> > effects at the time but it failed to impress story wise. Still, I will
> > certainly watch it again for nostaligia.
>
> Really?
>
> I don't think it sad if you remember seeing it. In fact that would be pretty
> amazing.
> There's not many people alive today who saw it first time round.
>
> How old are you, if you don't mind me asking?

I'm confused about Power of the Daleks, as I'm sure I remember seeing
it. But I was much too young to watch it in 1966, so I must have seen
a repeat, probably in the mid 70s. This was not in the UK.

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> On Jul 4, 2:12 am, "Peter Morris"  wrote:
>> "Bazza"  wrote in message
>>
>> news:1jebk.181366$Ek2.98536@newsfe17.ams2...
>>
>>
>>
>> > I remember this the first time around....how sad is that? It had some 
>> > cool
>> > effects at the time but it failed to impress story wise. Still, I will
>> > certainly watch it again for nostaligia.
>>
>> Really?
>>
>> I don't think it sad if you remember seeing it. In fact that would be 
>> pretty
>> amazing.
>> There's not many people alive today who saw it first time round.
>>
>> How old are you, if you don't mind me asking?
>
> I'm confused about Power of the Daleks, as I'm sure I remember seeing
> it. But I was much too young to watch it in 1966, so I must have seen
> a repeat, probably in the mid 70s. This was not in the UK.

The BBC wiped it in the early 70`s allegedly. Where would you have been in 
the mid 70`s? There are people out there that would know where it was sold 
to and it`s last reported airings. I don`t think I`ve ever heard of it being 
shown anywhere as late as the mid 70`s.

In article <R0wbk.9200$jB5.7096@newsfe05.ams2>,
Bazza  wrote:
>
>"Marnok.com"  wrote in message 
>news:4KGdnfdZroh5bvDVnZ2dnUVZ_qzinZ2d@giganews.com...
>>
>> "Peter Morris"  wrote in message 
>> news:ftcbk.20390$E41.1959@text.news.virginmedia.com...
>>> Not Doctor Who, but almost as good.
>>> The missing scenes from Fitz Lang's Metropolis have
>>> been rediscovered after going missing for 80 years.
>>> Restoration of the film to its former glory has begun.
>>>
>>> http://www.zeit.de/online/2008/27/metropolis-vorab-englisch
>>>
>>>
>>> This appears to be genuine.
>>>
>>>
>>> At this rate, they'll get back Power Of The Daleks in about 2050.
>>> We can always hope.
>>
>> Just recently, missong footage has also been found of the Beatles and 
>> Marilyn. Now this. Lots of valuable missing stuff appearing just when we 
>> have the technology to digitally recreate realistic looking fakes.
>mmmm...thats a cynical but interesting thought. I wonder?
>
>Baz 
>
>

Imagine recreating MArco Polo?
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In article ,
robotiser@googlemail.com  wrote:
>On Jul 4, 2:12 am, "Peter Morris"  wrote:
>> "Bazza"  wrote in message
>>
>> news:1jebk.181366$Ek2.98536@newsfe17.ams2...
>>
>>
>>
>> > I remember this the first time around....how sad is that? It had some cool
>> > effects at the time but it failed to impress story wise. Still, I will
>> > certainly watch it again for nostaligia.
>>
>> Really?
>>
>> I don't think it sad if you remember seeing it. In fact that would be pretty
>> amazing.
>> There's not many people alive today who saw it first time round.
>>
>> How old are you, if you don't mind me asking?
>
>I'm confused about Power of the Daleks, as I'm sure I remember seeing
>it. But I was much too young to watch it in 1966, so I must have seen
>a repeat, probably in the mid 70s. This was not in the UK.

The one with the regen?  Only photo stills survive.
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Why would we want to

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should be kept. If it doesn't, the belief should not only be discarded, but
the thinker must also then question why he was led to believe the erroneous


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> In article <R0wbk.9200$jB5.7096@newsfe05.ams2>,
> Bazza  wrote:
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> >"Marnok.com"  wrote in message
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> >>
> >> "Peter Morris"  wrote in message
> >> news:ftcbk.20390$E41.1959@text.news.virginmedia.com...
> >>> Not Doctor Who, but almost as good.
> >>> The missing scenes from Fitz Lang's Metropolis have
> >>> been rediscovered after going missing for 80 years.
> >>> Restoration of the film to its former glory has begun.
> >>>
> >>> http://www.zeit.de/online/2008/27/metropolis-vorab-englisch
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> This appears to be genuine.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> At this rate, they'll get back Power Of The Daleks in about 2050.
> >>> We can always hope.
> >>
> >> Just recently, missong footage has also been found of the Beatles and
> >> Marilyn. Now this. Lots of valuable missing stuff appearing just when
we
> >> have the technology to digitally recreate realistic looking fakes.
> >mmmm...thats a cynical but interesting thought. I wonder?
> >
> >Baz
> >
> >
>
> Imagine recreating MArco Polo?
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Who told you that

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> In article
,
> robotiser@googlemail.com  wrote:
> >On Jul 4, 2:12 am, "Peter Morris"  wrote:
> >> "Bazza"  wrote in message
> >>
> >> news:1jebk.181366$Ek2.98536@newsfe17.ams2...
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> > I remember this the first time around....how sad is that? It had some
cool
> >> > effects at the time but it failed to impress story wise. Still, I
will
> >> > certainly watch it again for nostaligia.
> >>
> >> Really?
> >>
> >> I don't think it sad if you remember seeing it. In fact that would be
pretty
> >> amazing.
> >> There's not many people alive today who saw it first time round.
> >>
> >> How old are you, if you don't mind me asking?
> >
> >I'm confused about Power of the Daleks, as I'm sure I remember seeing
> >it. But I was much too young to watch it in 1966, so I must have seen
> >a repeat, probably in the mid 70s. This was not in the UK.
>
> The one with the regen?  Only photo stills survive.
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On Jul 5, 12:42 am, doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) wrote:
> In article ,
>
>
>
> roboti...@googlemail.com  wrote:
> >On Jul 4, 2:12 am, "Peter Morris"  wrote:
> >> "Bazza"  wrote in message
>
> >>news:1jebk.181366$Ek2.98536@newsfe17.ams2...
>
> >> > I remember this the first time around....how sad is that? It had some cool
> >> > effects at the time but it failed to impress story wise. Still, I will
> >> > certainly watch it again for nostaligia.
>
> >> Really?
>
> >> I don't think it sad if you remember seeing it. In fact that would be pretty
> >> amazing.
> >> There's not many people alive today who saw it first time round.
>
> >> How old are you, if you don't mind me asking?
>
> >I'm confused about Power of the Daleks, as I'm sure I remember seeing
> >it. But I was much too young to watch it in 1966, so I must have seen
> >a repeat, probably in the mid 70s. This was not in the UK.
>
> The one with the regen?  Only photo stills survive.

Maybe I've got it wrong. I was young then. But I have always had a
distinct memory of seeing a Dr Who where there were some Daleks
without their weapons sharing some facility with humans, and it being
pointed out that there were now (was it four rather than three) of
them. Then later on a shot of a production line with new Daleks being
built/bred. Is there another story that this could have been? I can't
remember details. But I looked through a lot of synopses on the Tardis
wiki, and couldn't see another story even remotely similar. I have a
very vague memory of seeing a black and white regeneration, but it
could have been WH -> PT or PT -> JP. Is there another story I could
have confused for Power of the Daleks?

Other early Dr Who memories for me include the Yeti in the London
underground leading that "gunk" which was filling up the London
underground, which I believe is now considered "incomplete". So maybe
I was lucky to see some of these.

However, there have been past situations where I've had a memory of
something which has turned out to be incorrect.

I have seen reports of episodes being found because they were returned
from the country of my birth. So I don't think the episodes I saw are
still lying around back there anywhere or they would have been found.

RossClement@gmail.com wrote:

> 
> Maybe I've got it wrong. I was young then. But I have always had a
> distinct memory of seeing a Dr Who where there were some Daleks
> without their weapons sharing some facility with humans, and it being
> pointed out that there were now (was it four rather than three) of
> them. Then later on a shot of a production line with new Daleks being
> built/bred. Is there another story that this could have been? 

It's a cartoon strip story from one of the Dalek annuals of the 1960s.

On Sat, 5 Jul 2008 03:33:50 -0700 (PDT), RossClement@gmail.com wrote:

>On Jul 5, 12:42 am, doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) wrote:
>> In article ,
>>
>>
>>
>> roboti...@googlemail.com  wrote:
>> >On Jul 4, 2:12 am, "Peter Morris"  wrote:
>> >> "Bazza"  wrote in message
>>
>> >>news:1jebk.181366$Ek2.98536@newsfe17.ams2...
>>
>> >> > I remember this the first time around....how sad is that? It had some cool
>> >> > effects at the time but it failed to impress story wise. Still, I will
>> >> > certainly watch it again for nostaligia.
>>
>> >> Really?
>>
>> >> I don't think it sad if you remember seeing it. In fact that would be pretty
>> >> amazing.
>> >> There's not many people alive today who saw it first time round.
>>
>> >> How old are you, if you don't mind me asking?
>>
>> >I'm confused about Power of the Daleks, as I'm sure I remember seeing
>> >it. But I was much too young to watch it in 1966, so I must have seen
>> >a repeat, probably in the mid 70s. This was not in the UK.
>>
>> The one with the regen?  Only photo stills survive.
>
>Maybe I've got it wrong. I was young then. But I have always had a
>distinct memory of seeing a Dr Who where there were some Daleks
>without their weapons sharing some facility with humans, and it being
>pointed out that there were now (was it four rather than three) of
>them. Then later on a shot of a production line with new Daleks being
>built/bred. Is there another story that this could have been? I can't
>remember details. But I looked through a lot of synopses on the Tardis
>wiki, and couldn't see another story even remotely similar. I have a
>very vague memory of seeing a black and white regeneration, but it
>could have been WH -> PT or PT -> JP. Is there another story I could
>have confused for Power of the Daleks?
>
Patrick Troughton had no 'regeneration' scene.  The story you describe
is Power of The Daleks.  This included the Daleks without guns serving
Human masters and the 'production line' which featured raw Daleks
being inserted into new cases. The story is well documented on various
sites and available as audio with commentary, and as a reconstruction
using photos taken during production and by fans who photographed
their TV sets (I used to do that myself during the Hartnell and
Troughton years, but I was too young to build a substantial collection
and most were lost).

The TV21 comic strip is available as Jpegs here:
http://ganolan.users.btopenworld.com/Chronicles/chronicles.htm
Recons are available in Xvid format on ABDW

>Other early Dr Who memories for me include the Yeti in the London
>underground leading that "gunk" which was filling up the London
>underground, which I believe is now considered "incomplete". So maybe
>I was lucky to see some of these.
>
>However, there have been past situations where I've had a memory of
>something which has turned out to be incorrect.
>
>I have seen reports of episodes being found because they were returned
>from the country of my birth. So I don't think the episodes I saw are
>still lying around back there anywhere or they would have been found.

= IF

In article ,
  wrote:
>On Jul 5, 12:42 am, doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) wrote:
>> In article
>,
>>
>>
>>
>> roboti...@googlemail.com  wrote:
>> >On Jul 4, 2:12 am, "Peter Morris"  wrote:
>> >> "Bazza"  wrote in message
>>
>> >>news:1jebk.181366$Ek2.98536@newsfe17.ams2...
>>
>> >> > I remember this the first time around....how sad is that? It had
>some cool
>> >> > effects at the time but it failed to impress story wise. Still, I will
>> >> > certainly watch it again for nostaligia.
>>
>> >> Really?
>>
>> >> I don't think it sad if you remember seeing it. In fact that would
>be pretty
>> >> amazing.
>> >> There's not many people alive today who saw it first time round.
>>
>> >> How old are you, if you don't mind me asking?
>>
>> >I'm confused about Power of the Daleks, as I'm sure I remember seeing
>> >it. But I was much too young to watch it in 1966, so I must have seen
>> >a repeat, probably in the mid 70s. This was not in the UK.
>>
>> The one with the regen?  Only photo stills survive.
>
>Maybe I've got it wrong. I was young then. But I have always had a
>distinct memory of seeing a Dr Who where there were some Daleks
>without their weapons sharing some facility with humans, and it being
>pointed out that there were now (was it four rather than three) of
>them. Then later on a shot of a production line with new Daleks being
>built/bred. Is there another story that this could have been? I can't
>remember details. But I looked through a lot of synopses on the Tardis
>wiki, and couldn't see another story even remotely similar. I have a
>very vague memory of seeing a black and white regeneration, but it
>could have been WH -> PT or PT -> JP. Is there another story I could
>have confused for Power of the Daleks?
>
>Other early Dr Who memories for me include the Yeti in the London
>underground leading that "gunk" which was filling up the London
>underground, which I believe is now considered "incomplete". So maybe
>I was lucky to see some of these.
>
>However, there have been past situations where I've had a memory of
>something which has turned out to be incorrect.
>
>I have seen reports of episodes being found because they were returned
>from the country of my birth. So I don't think the episodes I saw are
>still lying around back there anywhere or they would have been found.

NZ.  Hopefully they turn up many of the episodes missing from the BBC 
Archives.  Here is to hoping.
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wrote in message 
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> On Jul 4, 2:12 am, "Peter Morris"  wrote:
>> "Bazza"  wrote in message
>>
>> news:1jebk.181366$Ek2.98536@newsfe17.ams2...
>>
>>
>>
>> > I remember this the first time around....how sad is that? It had some 
>> > cool
>> > effects at the time but it failed to impress story wise. Still, I will
>> > certainly watch it again for nostaligia.
>>
>> Really?
>>
>> I don't think it sad if you remember seeing it. In fact that would be 
>> pretty
>> amazing.
>> There's not many people alive today who saw it first time round.
>>
>> How old are you, if you don't mind me asking?
>
> I'm confused about Power of the Daleks, as I'm sure I remember seeing
> it. But I was much too young to watch it in 1966, so I must have seen
> a repeat, probably in the mid 70s. This was not in the UK.




If I recall correctly, the only other places to buy Power of the Daleks was 
Australia, New Zealand, and Singapore.

Silly girl they have gone

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> In article
,
>   wrote:
> >On Jul 5, 12:42 am, doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) wrote:
> >> In article
> >,
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> roboti...@googlemail.com  wrote:
> >> >On Jul 4, 2:12 am, "Peter Morris"  wrote:
> >> >> "Bazza"  wrote in message
> >>
> >> >>news:1jebk.181366$Ek2.98536@newsfe17.ams2...
> >>
> >> >> > I remember this the first time around....how sad is that? It had
> >some cool
> >> >> > effects at the time but it failed to impress story wise. Still, I
will
> >> >> > certainly watch it again for nostaligia.
> >>
> >> >> Really?
> >>
> >> >> I don't think it sad if you remember seeing it. In fact that would
> >be pretty
> >> >> amazing.
> >> >> There's not many people alive today who saw it first time round.
> >>
> >> >> How old are you, if you don't mind me asking?
> >>
> >> >I'm confused about Power of the Daleks, as I'm sure I remember seeing
> >> >it. But I was much too young to watch it in 1966, so I must have seen
> >> >a repeat, probably in the mid 70s. This was not in the UK.
> >>
> >> The one with the regen?  Only photo stills survive.
> >
> >Maybe I've got it wrong. I was young then. But I have always had a
> >distinct memory of seeing a Dr Who where there were some Daleks
> >without their weapons sharing some facility with humans, and it being
> >pointed out that there were now (was it four rather than three) of
> >them. Then later on a shot of a production line with new Daleks being
> >built/bred. Is there another story that this could have been? I can't
> >remember details. But I looked through a lot of synopses on the Tardis
> >wiki, and couldn't see another story even remotely similar. I have a
> >very vague memory of seeing a black and white regeneration, but it
> >could have been WH -> PT or PT -> JP. Is there another story I could
> >have confused for Power of the Daleks?
> >
> >Other early Dr Who memories for me include the Yeti in the London
> >underground leading that "gunk" which was filling up the London
> >underground, which I believe is now considered "incomplete". So maybe
> >I was lucky to see some of these.
> >
> >However, there have been past situations where I've had a memory of
> >something which has turned out to be incorrect.
> >
> >I have seen reports of episodes being found because they were returned
> >from the country of my birth. So I don't think the episodes I saw are
> >still lying around back there anywhere or they would have been found.
>
> NZ.  Hopefully they turn up many of the episodes missing from the BBC
> Archives.  Here is to hoping.
> -- 
> Member - Liberal International
> This is doctor@nl2k.ab.ca Ici doctor@nl2k.ab.ca
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In article , John Smith <Smith@Home> wrote:
>
> wrote in message 
>news:56a37a80-b609-4677-8335-b3e5f631ec19@j22g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
>> On Jul 4, 2:12 am, "Peter Morris"  wrote:
>>> "Bazza"  wrote in message
>>>
>>> news:1jebk.181366$Ek2.98536@newsfe17.ams2...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> > I remember this the first time around....how sad is that? It had some 
>>> > cool
>>> > effects at the time but it failed to impress story wise. Still, I will
>>> > certainly watch it again for nostaligia.
>>>
>>> Really?
>>>
>>> I don't think it sad if you remember seeing it. In fact that would be 
>>> pretty
>>> amazing.
>>> There's not many people alive today who saw it first time round.
>>>
>>> How old are you, if you don't mind me asking?
>>
>> I'm confused about Power of the Daleks, as I'm sure I remember seeing
>> it. But I was much too young to watch it in 1966, so I must have seen
>> a repeat, probably in the mid 70s. This was not in the UK.
>
>
>
>
>If I recall correctly, the only other places to buy Power of the Daleks was 
>Australia, New Zealand, and Singapore. 
>
>

And other places in the Commonwealth.
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Another lie

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> In article , John Smith <Smith@Home> wrote:
> >
> > wrote in message
> >news:56a37a80-b609-4677-8335-b3e5f631ec19@j22g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
> >> On Jul 4, 2:12 am, "Peter Morris"  wrote:
> >>> "Bazza"  wrote in message
> >>>
> >>> news:1jebk.181366$Ek2.98536@newsfe17.ams2...
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> > I remember this the first time around....how sad is that? It had
some
> >>> > cool
> >>> > effects at the time but it failed to impress story wise. Still, I
will
> >>> > certainly watch it again for nostaligia.
> >>>
> >>> Really?
> >>>
> >>> I don't think it sad if you remember seeing it. In fact that would be
> >>> pretty
> >>> amazing.
> >>> There's not many people alive today who saw it first time round.
> >>>
> >>> How old are you, if you don't mind me asking?
> >>
> >> I'm confused about Power of the Daleks, as I'm sure I remember seeing
> >> it. But I was much too young to watch it in 1966, so I must have seen
> >> a repeat, probably in the mid 70s. This was not in the UK.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >If I recall correctly, the only other places to buy Power of the Daleks
was
> >Australia, New Zealand, and Singapore.
> >
> >
>
> And other places in the Commonwealth.
> -- 
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On Jul 4, 10:45 pm, "Soze"  wrote:
>  wrote in message
> > I'm confused about Power of the Daleks, as I'm sure I remember seeing
> > it. But I was much too young to watch it in 1966, so I must have seen
> > a repeat, probably in the mid 70s. This was not in the UK.
>
> The BBC wiped it in the early 70`s allegedly. Where would you have been in
> the mid 70`s? There are people out there that would know where it was sold
> to and it`s last reported airings. I don`t think I`ve ever heard of it being
> shown anywhere as late as the mid 70`s.

New Zealand. I saw "The Web of Fear" too if I remember correctly. I
very, very, much doubt that I could have seen them early than the mid
70s as I would have been too young, I think.

wrote in message 
news:a74bff11-6e18-45c2-8412-f2cbe4f5d130@i76g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
> Maybe I've got it wrong. I was young then. But I have always had a
> distinct memory of seeing a Dr Who where there were some Daleks
> without their weapons sharing some facility with humans, and it being
> pointed out that there were now (was it four rather than three) of
> them. Then later on a shot of a production line with new Daleks being
> built/bred. Is there another story that this could have been? I can't
> remember details. But I looked through a lot of synopses on the Tardis
> wiki, and couldn't see another story even remotely similar. I have a
> very vague memory of seeing a black and white regeneration, but it
> could have been WH -> PT or PT -> JP. Is there another story I could
> have confused for Power of the Daleks?



That was definitely Power of the Daleks.



> Other early Dr Who memories for me include the Yeti in the London
> underground leading that "gunk" which was filling up the London
> underground, which I believe is now considered "incomplete". So maybe
> I was lucky to see some of these.




The Web of Fear. Another classic that the BBC destroyed. :-(

In rec.arts.drwho on Sat, 5 Jul 2008 10:37:03 -0500, John Smith
<Smith@Home> wrote:

>  wrote in message 
> news:a74bff11-6e18-45c2-8412-f2cbe4f5d130@i76g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
>> Maybe I've got it wrong. I was young then. But I have always had a
>> distinct memory of seeing a Dr Who where there were some Daleks
>> without their weapons sharing some facility with humans, and it being
>> pointed out that there were now (was it four rather than three) of
>> them. Then later on a shot of a production line with new Daleks being
>> built/bred. Is there another story that this could have been? I can't
>> remember details. But I looked through a lot of synopses on the Tardis
>> wiki, and couldn't see another story even remotely similar. I have a
>> very vague memory of seeing a black and white regeneration, but it
>> could have been WH -> PT or PT -> JP. Is there another story I could
>> have confused for Power of the Daleks?
>
> That was definitely Power of the Daleks.

I think there may also be a hint of "Death to the Daleks" in Ross's
recollections. The other story in which (some of) the Daleks don't
have weapons is "Genesis".

>> Other early Dr Who memories for me include the Yeti in the London
>> underground leading that "gunk" which was filling up the London
>> underground, which I believe is now considered "incomplete". So maybe
>> I was lucky to see some of these.
>
> The Web of Fear. Another classic that the BBC destroyed. :-( 

I don't find the CD release particularly enjoyable - certainly not as
good as the Target book - though I could listen to Anneke Wills's
cool, calm narration all day long.

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On Jul 4, 10:45 pm, "Soze"  wrote:
>  wrote in message
> The BBC wiped it in the early 70`s allegedly. Where would you have been in
> the mid 70`s? There are people out there that would know where it was sold
> to and it`s last reported airings. I don`t think I`ve ever heard of it being
> shown anywhere as late as the mid 70`s.

My previous reply hasn't shown up yet.

New Zealand. I don't claim to have a perfect memory, but I have clear
visual memories of scenes from Power of the Daleks and Web of Fear. I
don't have a particular memory of which year I saw it.

In article , John Smith <Smith@Home> wrote:
>
> wrote in message 
>news:a74bff11-6e18-45c2-8412-f2cbe4f5d130@i76g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
>> Maybe I've got it wrong. I was young then. But I have always had a
>> distinct memory of seeing a Dr Who where there were some Daleks
>> without their weapons sharing some facility with humans, and it being
>> pointed out that there were now (was it four rather than three) of
>> them. Then later on a shot of a production line with new Daleks being
>> built/bred. Is there another story that this could have been? I can't
>> remember details. But I looked through a lot of synopses on the Tardis
>> wiki, and couldn't see another story even remotely similar. I have a
>> very vague memory of seeing a black and white regeneration, but it
>> could have been WH -> PT or PT -> JP. Is there another story I could
>> have confused for Power of the Daleks?
>
>
>
>That was definitely Power of the Daleks.
>
>

If only all of Poweer and Tenth Planet would have survived.

>
>> Other early Dr Who memories for me include the Yeti in the London
>> underground leading that "gunk" which was filling up the London
>> underground, which I believe is now considered "incomplete". So maybe
>> I was lucky to see some of these.
>
>
>
>
>The Web of Fear. Another classic that the BBC destroyed. :-( 
>
>


One Episode survives.
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In article ,
Peter J Ross   wrote:
>In rec.arts.drwho on Sat, 5 Jul 2008 10:37:03 -0500, John Smith
><Smith@Home> wrote:
>
>>  wrote in message 
>> news:a74bff11-6e18-45c2-8412-f2cbe4f5d130@i76g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
>>> Maybe I've got it wrong. I was young then. But I have always had a
>>> distinct memory of seeing a Dr Who where there were some Daleks
>>> without their weapons sharing some facility with humans, and it being
>>> pointed out that there were now (was it four rather than three) of
>>> them. Then later on a shot of a production line with new Daleks being
>>> built/bred. Is there another story that this could have been? I can't
>>> remember details. But I looked through a lot of synopses on the Tardis
>>> wiki, and couldn't see another story even remotely similar. I have a
>>> very vague memory of seeing a black and white regeneration, but it
>>> could have been WH -> PT or PT -> JP. Is there another story I could
>>> have confused for Power of the Daleks?
>>
>> That was definitely Power of the Daleks.
>
>I think there may also be a hint of "Death to the Daleks" in Ross's
>recollections. The other story in which (some of) the Daleks don't
>have weapons is "Genesis".
>
>>> Other early Dr Who memories for me include the Yeti in the London
>>> underground leading that "gunk" which was filling up the London
>>> underground, which I believe is now considered "incomplete". So maybe
>>> I was lucky to see some of these.
>>
>> The Web of Fear. Another classic that the BBC destroyed. :-( 
>
>I don't find the CD release particularly enjoyable - certainly not as
>good as the Target book - though I could listen to Anneke Wills's
>cool, calm narration all day long.
>

Anneke a reader, worth listening to.
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In article ,
robotiser@googlemail.com  wrote:
>On Jul 4, 10:45 pm, "Soze"  wrote:
>>  wrote in message
>> The BBC wiped it in the early 70`s allegedly. Where would you have been in
>> the mid 70`s? There are people out there that would know where it was sold
>> to and it`s last reported airings. I don`t think I`ve ever heard of it being
>> shown anywhere as late as the mid 70`s.
>
>My previous reply hasn't shown up yet.
>
>New Zealand. I don't claim to have a perfect memory, but I have clear
>visual memories of scenes from Power of the Daleks and Web of Fear. I
>don't have a particular memory of which year I saw it.

Maybe TVNZ still has the episode.
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> In article 
> ,
> robotiser@googlemail.com  wrote:
>>On Jul 4, 10:45 pm, "Soze"  wrote:
>>>  wrote in message
>>> The BBC wiped it in the early 70`s allegedly. Where would you have been 
>>> in
>>> the mid 70`s? There are people out there that would know where it was 
>>> sold
>>> to and it`s last reported airings. I don`t think I`ve ever heard of it 
>>> being
>>> shown anywhere as late as the mid 70`s.
>>
>>My previous reply hasn't shown up yet.
>>
>>New Zealand. I don't claim to have a perfect memory, but I have clear
>>visual memories of scenes from Power of the Daleks and Web of Fear. I
>>don't have a particular memory of which year I saw it.
>
> Maybe TVNZ still has the episode.

I think you should make that your mission. Go over there and do a thorough 
search. Leave no stone unturned. You could be the saviour of Dr Who fans 
everywhere!

"Stephen Wilson"  wrote in message 
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>
> "The Doctor"  wrote in message 
> news:g4rc77$p6n$10@gallifrey.nk.ca...
>> In article 
>> ,
>> robotiser@googlemail.com  wrote:
>>>On Jul 4, 10:45 pm, "Soze"  wrote:
>>>>  wrote in message
>>>> The BBC wiped it in the early 70`s allegedly. Where would you have been 
>>>> in
>>>> the mid 70`s? There are people out there that would know where it was 
>>>> sold
>>>> to and it`s last reported airings. I don`t think I`ve ever heard of it 
>>>> being
>>>> shown anywhere as late as the mid 70`s.
>>>
>>>My previous reply hasn't shown up yet.
>>>
>>>New Zealand. I don't claim to have a perfect memory, but I have clear
>>>visual memories of scenes from Power of the Daleks and Web of Fear. I
>>>don't have a particular memory of which year I saw it.
>>
>> Maybe TVNZ still has the episode.
>
> I think you should make that your mission. Go over there and do a thorough 
> search. Leave no stone unturned. You could be the saviour of Dr Who fans 
> everywhere!

,,,and never post here again until you`ve found it!!

wrote in message 
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> On Jul 4, 10:45 pm, "Soze"  wrote:
>>  wrote in message
>> > I'm confused about Power of the Daleks, as I'm sure I remember seeing
>> > it. But I was much too young to watch it in 1966, so I must have seen
>> > a repeat, probably in the mid 70s. This was not in the UK.
>>
>> The BBC wiped it in the early 70`s allegedly. Where would you have been 
>> in
>> the mid 70`s? There are people out there that would know where it was 
>> sold
>> to and it`s last reported airings. I don`t think I`ve ever heard of it 
>> being
>> shown anywhere as late as the mid 70`s.
>
> New Zealand. I saw "The Web of Fear" too if I remember correctly. I
> very, very, much doubt that I could have seen them early than the mid
> 70s as I would have been too young, I think.




The Web of Fear was the last Troughton story purchased by New Zealand in the 
70s. I think overseas countries were allowed one original broadcast and one 
repeat of each story they purchased. Since they most likely bought it before 
the BBC began destroying episodes in 1972, and if they showed one episode a 
week, and if they were repeating all the old Hartnell and Troughton stories 
in order, then chances are that The Web of Fear still existed in other 
countries in the mid 70s. Sadly, the BBC telexed those countries that bought 
those episodes and ordered them to destroy the prints. It is too bad that 
the BBC didn't hire Sue Malden sooner. We would have had a better chance of 
recovering more Hartnell and Troughton episodes from the vaults of overseas 
television stations if that was the case.

wrote in message 
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> On Jul 4, 10:45 pm, "Soze"  wrote:
>>  wrote in message
>> The BBC wiped it in the early 70`s allegedly. Where would you have been 
>> in
>> the mid 70`s? There are people out there that would know where it was 
>> sold
>> to and it`s last reported airings. I don`t think I`ve ever heard of it 
>> being
>> shown anywhere as late as the mid 70`s.
>
> My previous reply hasn't shown up yet.
>
> New Zealand. I don't claim to have a perfect memory, but I have clear
> visual memories of scenes from Power of the Daleks and Web of Fear. I
> don't have a particular memory of which year I saw it.





I wouldn't worry about it. The BBC ruined seasons 4 and 5 by throwing the 
best stories in the garbage. :-(

The only thing we can do is hope they will never do anything like that ever 
again.

You think

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"The Doctor"  wrote in message
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> In article , John Smith <Smith@Home> wrote:
> >
> > wrote in message
> >news:a74bff11-6e18-45c2-8412-f2cbe4f5d130@i76g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
> >> Maybe I've got it wrong. I was young then. But I have always had a
> >> distinct memory of seeing a Dr Who where there were some Daleks
> >> without their weapons sharing some facility with humans, and it being
> >> pointed out that there were now (was it four rather than three) of
> >> them. Then later on a shot of a production line with new Daleks being
> >> built/bred. Is there another story that this could have been? I can't
> >> remember details. But I looked through a lot of synopses on the Tardis
> >> wiki, and couldn't see another story even remotely similar. I have a
> >> very vague memory of seeing a black and white regeneration, but it
> >> could have been WH -> PT or PT -> JP. Is there another story I could
> >> have confused for Power of the Daleks?
> >
> >
> >
> >That was definitely Power of the Daleks.
> >
> >
>
> If only all of Poweer and Tenth Planet would have survived.
>
> >
> >> Other early Dr Who memories for me include the Yeti in the London
> >> underground leading that "gunk" which was filling up the London
> >> underground, which I believe is now considered "incomplete". So maybe
> >> I was lucky to see some of these.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >The Web of Fear. Another classic that the BBC destroyed. :-(
> >
> >
>
>
> One Episode survives.
> -- 
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BECAUSE YOUR READING SKILLS ARE NOT UP TO PAR

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Socrates taught his students that the pursuit of truth can only begin once
they start to question and analyze every belief that they ever held dear. If
a certain belief passes the tests of evidence, deduction, and logic, it
should be kept. If it doesn't, the belief should not only be discarded, but
the thinker must also then question why he was led to believe the erroneous


"The Doctor"  wrote in message
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> In article ,
> Peter J Ross   wrote:
> >In rec.arts.drwho on Sat, 5 Jul 2008 10:37:03 -0500, John Smith
> ><Smith@Home> wrote:
> >
> >>  wrote in message
> >>
news:a74bff11-6e18-45c2-8412-f2cbe4f5d130@i76g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
> >>> Maybe I've got it wrong. I was young then. But I have always had a
> >>> distinct memory of seeing a Dr Who where there were some Daleks
> >>> without their weapons sharing some facility with humans, and it being
> >>> pointed out that there were now (was it four rather than three) of
> >>> them. Then later on a shot of a production line with new Daleks being
> >>> built/bred. Is there another story that this could have been? I can't
> >>> remember details. But I looked through a lot of synopses on the Tardis
> >>> wiki, and couldn't see another story even remotely similar. I have a
> >>> very vague memory of seeing a black and white regeneration, but it
> >>> could have been WH -> PT or PT -> JP. Is there another story I could
> >>> have confused for Power of the Daleks?
> >>
> >> That was definitely Power of the Daleks.
> >
> >I think there may also be a hint of "Death to the Daleks" in Ross's
> >recollections. The other story in which (some of) the Daleks don't
> >have weapons is "Genesis".
> >
> >>> Other early Dr Who memories for me include the Yeti in the London
> >>> underground leading that "gunk" which was filling up the London
> >>> underground, which I believe is now considered "incomplete". So maybe
> >>> I was lucky to see some of these.
> >>
> >> The Web of Fear. Another classic that the BBC destroyed. :-(
> >
> >I don't find the CD release particularly enjoyable - certainly not as
> >good as the Target book - though I could listen to Anneke Wills's
> >cool, calm narration all day long.
> >
>
> Anneke a reader, worth listening to.
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In your dreams

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they start to question and analyze every belief that they ever held dear. If
a certain belief passes the tests of evidence, deduction, and logic, it
should be kept. If it doesn't, the belief should not only be discarded, but
the thinker must also then question why he was led to believe the erroneous


"The Doctor"  wrote in message
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> In article
,
> robotiser@googlemail.com  wrote:
> >On Jul 4, 10:45 pm, "Soze"  wrote:
> >>  wrote in message
> >> The BBC wiped it in the early 70`s allegedly. Where would you have been
in
> >> the mid 70`s? There are people out there that would know where it was
sold
> >> to and it`s last reported airings. I don`t think I`ve ever heard of it
being
> >> shown anywhere as late as the mid 70`s.
> >
> >My previous reply hasn't shown up yet.
> >
> >New Zealand. I don't claim to have a perfect memory, but I have clear
> >visual memories of scenes from Power of the Daleks and Web of Fear. I
> >don't have a particular memory of which year I saw it.
>
> Maybe TVNZ still has the episode.
> -- 
> Member - Liberal International
> This is doctor@nl2k.ab.ca Ici doctor@nl2k.ab.ca
> God, Queen and country! Beware Anti-Christ rising!
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