On Wed, 2 Jul 2008, The Doctor wrote:

>> I dare you, better yet I demand from you, a statement by Jesus, as written
>> in any version of the new testament you see fit, that says the above.  I
>> contend, with 100% certianty, that every time such a statement was made,
>> it was by Paul (Saul of Tarsus).  I contend that Jesus himself never once
>> made such a statement.  Accept this challange, and respond with bible
>> verse, or you admit you are a Paulist.
>
> Indicating to me you believe a false doctrine on Christianity.

You therefore admit that Jesus never once said that he is the sacrafice 
that will free us from the law of Moses.

You therefore admit that Jesus never once said that salvation is based on 
faith and faith alone.

You therefore admit that these statements were made by Paul, Saul of 
Tarsus.

I say that Jesus never once said those things.  To prove me wrong, all you 
must do is find a single instance where he did.  You admit that you 
cannot, and yet still insist that you do not follow Paul above Jesus.

Until you can provide even one passage, this debate is over.

In article ,
Bad Wilf   wrote:
>The Doctor wrote:
>
>>>
>> 
>> The Sacrifice of Jesus was to break Satan's hold on mankind.
>> 
>
>Did it work? If so, that means God is responsible for all the bad over 
>the last 2000 years doesn't it?
>
>If it DIDN'T work then he died in vain.
>
>Which is it?
>
>
>

You have to decide now that a path has been made the Great Rabbi
Christ Jesus himself.
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the thinker must also then question why he was led to believe the erroneous


"The Doctor"  wrote in message
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> In article ,
> Bad Wilf   wrote:
> >The Doctor wrote:
> >
> >>>
> >>
> >> The Sacrifice of Jesus was to break Satan's hold on mankind.
> >>
> >
> >Did it work? If so, that means God is responsible for all the bad over
> >the last 2000 years doesn't it?
> >
> >If it DIDN'T work then he died in vain.
> >
> >Which is it?
> >
> >
> >
>
> You have to decide now that a path has been made the Great Rabbi
> Christ Jesus himself.
> -- 
> Member - Liberal International
> This is doctor@nl2k.ab.ca Ici doctor@nl2k.ab.ca
> God, Queen and country! Beware Anti-Christ rising!
> USA petition for dissolution of your nation!

The Doctor wrote:
> In article ,
> Bad Wilf   wrote:
>> The Doctor wrote:
>>
>>> The Sacrifice of Jesus was to break Satan's hold on mankind.
>>>
>> Did it work? If so, that means God is responsible for all the bad over 
>> the last 2000 years doesn't it?
>>
>> If it DIDN'T work then he died in vain.
>>
>> Which is it?
>>
>>
>>
> 
> You have to decide now that a path has been made the Great Rabbi
> Christ Jesus himself.

Rabbi Christ?!?

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Roger Pearse   wrote:
>On 2 Jul, 18:22, The Master <tar...@nospam.sdf.lonestar.org.nospam>
>wrote:
>> I say that Jesus never once said those things.  To prove me wrong, all you
>> must do is find a single instance where he did.  
>
>I say that you're a paedophile.  Prove me wrong.
>
>Amusing that people peddling a lie always try this "my assertions must
>be true unless anyone can prove me wrong and I won't hear reason even
>if they try".
>
>Roger Pearse

Strong words.
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Said to a person who lies

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Socrates taught his students that the pursuit of truth can only begin once
they start to question and analyze every belief that they ever held dear. If
a certain belief passes the tests of evidence, deduction, and logic, it
should be kept. If it doesn't, the belief should not only be discarded, but
the thinker must also then question why he was led to believe the erroneous


"The Doctor"  wrote in message
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> In article
,
> Roger Pearse   wrote:
> >On 2 Jul, 18:22, The Master <tar...@nospam.sdf.lonestar.org.nospam>
> >wrote:
> >> I say that Jesus never once said those things. To prove me wrong, all
you
> >> must do is find a single instance where he did.
> >
> >I say that you're a paedophile.  Prove me wrong.
> >
> >Amusing that people peddling a lie always try this "my assertions must
> >be true unless anyone can prove me wrong and I won't hear reason even
> >if they try".
> >
> >Roger Pearse
>
> Strong words.
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> This is doctor@nl2k.ab.ca Ici doctor@nl2k.ab.ca
> God, Queen and country! Beware Anti-Christ rising!
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I was hanging out with the cool kids in rec.arts.drwho when 
Roger Pearse got out a spraycan and scrawled the following:
>  On 11 Jul, 15:22, doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) wrote:
> > In article ,Roger Pearse  wrote:
> >
> > >On 2 Jul, 18:22, The Master <tar...@nospam.sdf.lonestar.org.nospam>
> > >wrote:
> > >> I say that Jesus never once said those things.  To prove me wrong, all you
> > >> must do is find a single instance where he did.  
> >
> > >I say that you're a paedophile.  Prove me wrong.
> >
> > >Amusing that people peddling a lie always try this "my assertions must
> > >be true unless anyone can prove me wrong and I won't hear reason even
> > >if they try".
> >
> > Strong words.
> 
>  And why not?  Does anyone benefit from allowing that kind of
>  fraudulent argument to go unchallenged, whoever is making it and for
>  whatever purpose?

How is the argument fraudulent?  Yads said that some occurrence can be
found in The Bible.  To settle the argument one way or the other...

For:     Post the relevant verse(s)
Against: Post the whole of The Bible, saying "that's not it" after each
verse


To prove whether or not The Master is a paedophile...

For:     Tell us of one occurrence of him fancying kids
Against: List everything he's ever said, done or thought for every
moment of his life, and say "that's not paedophilia" after each


In both cases, proving the negative is a lot more difficult than proving
the positive.  If the "for" side really want to persuade the "against"
side that they're right, it's not unreasonable to expect them to provide
the tiny bit of proof required.

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