On Sun, 29 Jun 2008 21:02:38 +0000, The Doctor wrote:

> In article , Dave Cross 
>  wrote:
>>On Sun, 29 Jun 2008 20:34:34 +0000, The Doctor wrote:
>>
>>> In article , Andy Leighton
>>>  wrote:
>>>>On Sat, 28 Jun 2008 14:48:19 +0000 (UTC),
>>>>   	       The Doctor  wrote:
>>>>> In article <ztg9k.87702$zs1.19857@newsfe28.ams2>, Stephen Wilson
>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Paul met Jesus on the Raod to Damascus.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Try reading that again. Paul obsessed about Jesus. He never met him.
>>>>>>And never even claimed that he did.
>>>>>
>>>>> Clearly states in Acts, Paul met him on the Road to Damascus to
>>>>> persecute Christ's followers.
>>>>
>>>>This is the Acts that reads "And Saul arose from the earth; and when
>>>>his eyes were opened, he saw no man; but they led him by the hand, and
>>>>brought him into Damascus"?  His own account (when assembled together)
>>>>of it sounds like some kind of hallucination (you would say vision)
>>>>although he isn't very forthcoming about what was the most important
>>>>thing in his life (according to him and you).
>>> 
>>> Acts was written by Luke.
>>
>>Right, so it's (at best) a second-hand account of a hallucination.
>>Hardly the kind of thing to build a religion on really.
> 
> Hallucination that blinds you?

If you say so. Still a hallucination though. Any other explanation would 
just be ridiculous.

Dave...

In article ,
Dave Cross   wrote:
>On Mon, 30 Jun 2008 14:59:23 +0000, The Doctor wrote:
>
>> In article , Dave Cross 
>>  wrote:
>>>On Sun, 29 Jun 2008 21:02:38 +0000, The Doctor wrote:
>>>
>>>> In article , Dave Cross
>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>On Sun, 29 Jun 2008 20:34:34 +0000, The Doctor wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> In article , Andy Leighton
>>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>>>On Sat, 28 Jun 2008 14:48:19 +0000 (UTC),
>>>>>>>   	       The Doctor  wrote:
>>>>>>>> In article <ztg9k.87702$zs1.19857@newsfe28.ams2>, Stephen Wilson
>>>>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Paul met Jesus on the Raod to Damascus.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Try reading that again. Paul obsessed about Jesus. He never met
>>>>>>>>>him. And never even claimed that he did.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Clearly states in Acts, Paul met him on the Road to Damascus to
>>>>>>>> persecute Christ's followers.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>This is the Acts that reads "And Saul arose from the earth; and when
>>>>>>>his eyes were opened, he saw no man; but they led him by the hand,
>>>>>>>and brought him into Damascus"?  His own account (when assembled
>>>>>>>together) of it sounds like some kind of hallucination (you would
>>>>>>>say vision) although he isn't very forthcoming about what was the
>>>>>>>most important thing in his life (according to him and you).
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Acts was written by Luke.
>>>>>
>>>>>Right, so it's (at best) a second-hand account of a hallucination.
>>>>>Hardly the kind of thing to build a religion on really.
>>>> 
>>>> Hallucination that blinds you?
>>>
>>>If you say so. Still a hallucination though. Any other explanation would
>>>just be ridiculous.
>>>
>> You are the one implying it.
>
>I'm not implying anything. I'm plainly saying that Paul had a 
>hallucination. He didn't really see what he claimed to see.
>
>Dave...

Am not doubt he did not see the stoning of Stephen.
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