On Sun, 29 Jun 2008 13:14:17 +0000, The Doctor wrote:

> In article , Dave Cross 
>  wrote:
>>On Sat, 28 Jun 2008 15:02:13 +0000, The Doctor wrote:
>>
>>> In article , Dave Cross
>>>  wrote:
>>>>On Fri, 27 Jun 2008 21:01:30 +0000, The Doctor wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> In article <QG99k.20821$ft1.2211@newsfe14.ams2>, Stephen Wilson
>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"Dave Cross"  wrote in message
>>>>>>news:pan.2008.06.27.17.09.24@dave.org.uk...
>>>>>>> On Fri, 27 Jun 2008 15:19:35 +0000, The Doctor wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> In article , Dave Cross
>>>>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>On Wed, 25 Jun 2008 22:30:37 +0000, The Doctor wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> In article
>>>>>>>>>> , The
>>>>>>>>>> Master  <tardis@nospam.sdf.lonestar.org.nospam> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>On Wed, 25 Jun 2008, Dave Cross wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> There are many other similar gospels. Many of them were
>>>>>>>>>>>> considered for inclusion in the new testament - but were
>>>>>>>>>>>> excluded because they didn't agree with the version of
>>>>>>>>>>>> christianity that Paul promoted.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>Because modern Christianity doesn't follow Jesus at all, but
>>>>>>>>>>>rather Paul's perversion of it.  Yads is no Christian, he is a
>>>>>>>>>>>Paulist.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I follow Christ as In Matthew, MArk, Luke John and Acts!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Which are books that were written to agree with Paul's view of
>>>>>>>>>Jesus.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> None.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I wasn't asking a question. I was stating a fact.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You really need to read a good book about the early history of
>>>>>>> your religion. Did you know there was a battle for leadership
>>>>>>> between James (the brother of Jesus) and Paul?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Or that the original followers of Jesus were simply people who
>>>>>>followed his teachings. It was around 400 years later that people
>>>>>>decided the man was more important than what he taught.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Today's Christianity is mostly based on the teachings of Paul.
>>>>>>Christians are obsessed about guilt and sin. But there's no mention
>>>>>>of original sin in the teachings of Jesus.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>The original Christians were urged to live an ethical lifestyle.
>>>>>>Modern Christians are urged to believe in the death and resurrection
>>>>>>of Jesus, and that they will be absolved of their sins as long as
>>>>>>they believe.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Christians today have a Messiah, but they've lost the message of
>>>>>>Jesus.
>>>>>>
>>>>> AFAIK Paul is dead in a tomb and Christ is alive and the Tomb is
>>>>> Empty.
>>>>
>>>>I know you believe that. It think it's nonsense.
>>>>
>>>>But whether or not you believe it, it doesn't alter the points that
>>>>Stephen made.
>>> 
>>> So where is the tomb with the Corpse?
>>
>>We've been through this before. Firstly, it's no surprise that you can't
>>pinpoint a particular tomb from almost two thousand years ago. And
>>secondly there _are_ tombs that have been potentially identified as that
>>of Jesus.
> 
> What about today's cemetaries?

What about them? What could they possibly have to do with this discussion?

You're an incredibly frustrating person to have a discussion with. You are 
completely incapable of developing a logical argument.

Dave...

In article <Bocak.56452$ft1.29041@newsfe14.ams2>,
mathis is innocent  <""> wrote:
>Dave Cross wrote:
>> On Sun, 29 Jun 2008 13:14:17 +0000, The Doctor wrote:
>> 
>> 
>
>>>What about today's cemetaries?
>> 
>> 
>> What about them? What could they possibly have to do with this discussion?
>> 
>> You're an incredibly frustrating person to have a discussion with. You are 
>> completely incapable of developing a logical argument.
>> 
>
>That kinda sums up Christians to a T!
>
>> Dave...
>
>Th

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