They haven't shut up about it for ages, but with a name that's
pronounced - Radovan Karaditch, to me he sounds like a country and
western singer :)

On Mon, 21 Jul 2008 17:04:28 -0700 (PDT), Dom Robinson 
wrote:

>They haven't shut up about it for ages, but with a name that's
>pronounced - Radovan Karaditch, to me he sounds like a country and
>western singer :)

and mass murderer by proxy?
-- 

Martin

Dom Robinson wrote:
> They haven't shut up about it for ages, but with a name that's
> pronounced - Radovan Karaditch, to me he sounds like a country and
> western singer :)

It's his hair that always made me laugh!

On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 13:42:27 +0100, Sofa - Spud 
wrote:

>Dom Robinson wrote:
>> They haven't shut up about it for ages, but with a name that's
>> pronounced - Radovan Karaditch, to me he sounds like a country and
>> western singer :)
>
>It's his hair that always made me laugh!

His Santa Claus disguise will make you laugh even more.
-- 

Martin

Martin wrote:
> On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 13:42:27 +0100, Sofa - Spud
>  wrote:
>
>> Dom Robinson wrote:
>>> They haven't shut up about it for ages, but with a name that's
>>> pronounced - Radovan Karaditch, to me he sounds like a country and
>>> western singer :)
>>
>> It's his hair that always made me laugh!
>
> His Santa Claus disguise will make you laugh even more.

It's amazing to me that the BBC have consistently referred to his 'heavy 
disguise' today, obviously trying to make some point about how evil and 
guilty he must be to resort to, er, growing a beard and having a more modern 
haircut.

Whereas they think nothing of their ace reporter, John Simpson, dressing in 
a burka to get into Afghanistan.

Some hypocrisy methinks.

On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 15:14:42 +0100, "Norman Wells"  wrote:

>Martin wrote:
>> On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 13:42:27 +0100, Sofa - Spud
>>  wrote:
>>
>>> Dom Robinson wrote:
>>>> They haven't shut up about it for ages, but with a name that's
>>>> pronounced - Radovan Karaditch, to me he sounds like a country and
>>>> western singer :)
>>>
>>> It's his hair that always made me laugh!
>>
>> His Santa Claus disguise will make you laugh even more.
>
>It's amazing to me that the BBC have consistently referred to his 'heavy 
>disguise' today, obviously trying to make some point about how evil and 
>guilty he must be to resort to, er, growing a beard and having a more modern 
>haircut.

More modern LOL!!!

It comes from the Saddam Hussein school of disguises. Few would have recognised
either of them. I guess somebody shopped Radovan Karadzic, maybe a disatisfied
patient - he was practising as an alternative medicine doctor.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/7519039.stm

>
>Whereas they think nothing of their ace reporter, John Simpson, dressing in 
>a burka to get into Afghanistan.

Sharing one with Kate Aidie?
-- 

Martin

On 22 Jul, 01:04, Dom Robinson  wrote:
> They haven't shut up about it for ages, but with a name that's
> pronounced - Radovan Karaditch, to me he sounds like a country and
> western singer :)

The thing that amazes me is how Blair is never accused of waging an
illegal war in Bosnia.

It was alright to ignore the UN then wasn't it?

That's the same corrupt UN that's still mates with Mugabee by the way.

"Norman Wells"  wrote in message 
news:g64q16$mqa$1$8300dec7@news.demon.co.uk...
> Martin wrote:
>> On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 13:42:27 +0100, Sofa - Spud
>>  wrote:
>>
>>> Dom Robinson wrote:
>>>> They haven't shut up about it for ages, but with a name that's
>>>> pronounced - Radovan Karaditch, to me he sounds like a country and
>>>> western singer :)
>>>
>>> It's his hair that always made me laugh!
>>
>> His Santa Claus disguise will make you laugh even more.
>
> It's amazing to me that the BBC have consistently referred to his 'heavy 
> disguise' today, obviously trying to make some point about how evil and 
> guilty he must be to resort to, er, growing a beard and having a more 
> modern haircut.

Indeed.
They were also referring to him as 'the war criminal' when of
course they should have being saying things like, 'wanted for
war crimes' and 'the suspected war criminal'.

Very sloppy and indeed predjucdiced journalism.
-- 
Col

Steal a spaceship and head for the sun,
Shoot the stars with a lemonade ray gun.

On Mon, 21 Jul 2008 17:04:28 -0700 (PDT), Dom Robinson
 wrote:

>They haven't shut up about it for ages, but with a name that's
>pronounced - Radovan Karaditch, to me he sounds like a country and
>western singer :)

Funny you should say that, as I hear he's releasing a single.  It's a
cover version of that old Borat favourite, but with a slight twist:
"Throw the Muslim Down the Well". :)

On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 17:48:04 +0100, "Col"  wrote:

>
>"Norman Wells"  wrote in message 
>news:g64q16$mqa$1$8300dec7@news.demon.co.uk...
>> Martin wrote:
>>> On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 13:42:27 +0100, Sofa - Spud
>>>  wrote:
>>>
>>>> Dom Robinson wrote:
>>>>> They haven't shut up about it for ages, but with a name that's
>>>>> pronounced - Radovan Karaditch, to me he sounds like a country and
>>>>> western singer :)
>>>>
>>>> It's his hair that always made me laugh!
>>>
>>> His Santa Claus disguise will make you laugh even more.
>>
>> It's amazing to me that the BBC have consistently referred to his 'heavy 
>> disguise' today, obviously trying to make some point about how evil and 
>> guilty he must be to resort to, er, growing a beard and having a more 
>> modern haircut.
>
>Indeed.
>They were also referring to him as 'the war criminal' when of
>course they should have being saying things like, 'wanted for
>war crimes' and 'the suspected war criminal'.

Wasn't he fairly open about his part in it, when they were the winning side.
I recall film of him with the execution squads shortly before they went into
action.

>
>Very sloppy and indeed predjucdiced journalism.

pre.... is hard to spell too :o)
-- 

Martin

On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 18:07:07 +0100, middlelight@googlemail.com wrote:

>On Mon, 21 Jul 2008 17:04:28 -0700 (PDT), Dom Robinson
> wrote:
>
>>They haven't shut up about it for ages, but with a name that's
>>pronounced - Radovan Karaditch, to me he sounds like a country and
>>western singer :)
>
>Funny you should say that, as I hear he's releasing a single.  It's a
>cover version of that old Borat favourite, but with a slight twist:
>"Throw the Muslim Down the Well". :)

Any truth in the rumour that the McCann's libel lawyers are searching
newsgroups?
-- 

Martin

allan tracy wrote in news:d315f029-b10c-4309-96c7-1f5cac9aceb8
@c58g2000hsc.googlegroups.com:


> That's the same corrupt UN that's still mates with Mugabee by the way.
> 

Well why not?  He runs a country where everyone is a multi-millionaire (or 
probably a billionaire by the end of this sentence)   What other leader can 
say that?


-- 
____________________________
Moley

On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 19:11:27 +0200, Martin <me@address.invalid> wrote:

>On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 18:07:07 +0100, middlelight@googlemail.com wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 21 Jul 2008 17:04:28 -0700 (PDT), Dom Robinson
>> wrote:
>>
>>>They haven't shut up about it for ages, but with a name that's
>>>pronounced - Radovan Karaditch, to me he sounds like a country and
>>>western singer :)
>>
>>Funny you should say that, as I hear he's releasing a single.  It's a
>>cover version of that old Borat favourite, but with a slight twist:
>>"Throw the Muslim Down the Well". :)
>
>Any truth in the rumour that the McCann's libel lawyers are searching
>newsgroups?

For jokes about Radovan Karadzic?  I very much doubt it. :)

"Martin" <me@address.invalid> wrote in message 
news:vp4c84dn1rbc67tm5p4b19qlf56tev88d8@4ax.com...
> On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 17:48:04 +0100, "Col"  
> wrote:

>>
>>Indeed.
>>They were also referring to him as 'the war criminal' when of
>>course they should have being saying things like, 'wanted for
>>war crimes' and 'the suspected war criminal'.
>
> Wasn't he fairly open about his part in it, when they were the winning 
> side.
> I recall film of him with the execution squads shortly before they went 
> into
> action.

Perhaps so, but before any trial he is innocent until proven guilty
so that status should be reflected in the language used by the
BBC and other media outlets.
The 'He's obviously guilty' attitude sets a dangerous precedent.

To be fair to the Beeb on the news this evening they got it right
most of the time, I think they only slipped up once.

>>
>>Very sloppy and indeed predjucdiced journalism.
>
> pre.... is hard to spell too :o)

LOL!
That's one of the most appalling attempts at spelling a word
I've seen for a long time!
-- 
Col

Steal a spaceship and head for the sun,
Shoot the stars with a lemonade ray gun.

In article <g64kjq$csr$4@aioe.org>, comfysofas@hotmail.co.uk says...
> Dom Robinson wrote:
> > They haven't shut up about it for ages, but with a name that's
> > pronounced - Radovan Karaditch, to me he sounds like a country and
> > western singer :)
> 
> It's his hair that always made me laugh!

Spot the difference:

Radovan Karadzic
http://www.doncasterroversfc.premiumtv.co.uk/javaImages/f7/2a/0,,10329~
3418871,00.jpg
or http://tinyurl.com/5bt6nw

and John Parr
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/6d/Evstafiev-Radovan_Karadzic_
3MAR94.jpg
or http://tinyurl.com/69d6tb

:)
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In article , me@address.invalid 
says...
> On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 18:07:07 +0100, middlelight@googlemail.com wrote:
> 
> >On Mon, 21 Jul 2008 17:04:28 -0700 (PDT), Dom Robinson
> > wrote:
> >
> >>They haven't shut up about it for ages, but with a name that's
> >>pronounced - Radovan Karaditch, to me he sounds like a country and
> >>western singer :)
> >
> >Funny you should say that, as I hear he's releasing a single.  It's a
> >cover version of that old Borat favourite, but with a slight twist:
> >"Throw the Muslim Down the Well". :)
> 
> Any truth in the rumour that the McCann's libel lawyers are searching
> newsgroups?
> 
Yes, they saw the movie "Tron" at the weekend and think Madeline's been zapped 
into the mainframe system.
-- 

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On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 15:14:42 +0100, Norman Wells   
wrote:

> Martin wrote:
>> On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 13:42:27 +0100, Sofa - Spud
>>  wrote:
>>
>>> Dom Robinson wrote:
>>>> They haven't shut up about it for ages, but with a name that's
>>>> pronounced - Radovan Karaditch, to me he sounds like a country and
>>>> western singer :)
>>>
>>> It's his hair that always made me laugh!
>>
>> His Santa Claus disguise will make you laugh even more.
>
> It's amazing to me that the BBC have consistently referred to his 'heavy  
> disguise' today, obviously trying to make some point about how evil and  
> guilty he must be to resort to, er, growing a beard and having a more  
> modern haircut.

They referred to it as a heavy disguise because that's what it was. Do you
think he just accidentally made himself look almost unrecognizable to the
way he used to? The fact that you have read this as being some hidden  
agenda
says more about you, than it does about the BBC.

> Whereas they think nothing of their ace reporter, John Simpson, dressing  
> in a burka to get into Afghanistan.
>
> Some hypocrisy methinks.

Did John Simpson wear his disguise because he was wanted for war crimes?

Fred X

On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 18:56:57 +0100, Dom Robinson
 wrote:

>In article <g64kjq$csr$4@aioe.org>, comfysofas@hotmail.co.uk says...
>> Dom Robinson wrote:
>> > They haven't shut up about it for ages, but with a name that's
>> > pronounced - Radovan Karaditch, to me he sounds like a country and
>> > western singer :)
>> 
>> It's his hair that always made me laugh!
>
>Spot the difference:
>
>Radovan Karadzic
>http://www.doncasterroversfc.premiumtv.co.uk/javaImages/f7/2a/0,,10329~
>3418871,00.jpg
>or http://tinyurl.com/5bt6nw
>
>and John Parr
>http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/6d/Evstafiev-Radovan_Karadzic_
>3MAR94.jpg
>or http://tinyurl.com/69d6tb
>
>:)

He sometimes reminds me of Father Ted.

Col goes:

>"Martin" <me@address.invalid> wrote in message 
>news:vp4c84dn1rbc67tm5p4b19qlf56tev88d8@4ax.com...
>> On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 17:48:04 +0100, "Col"  
>> wrote:

>>>Indeed.
>>>They were also referring to him as 'the war criminal' when of
>>>course they should have being saying things like, 'wanted for
>>>war crimes' and 'the suspected war criminal'.

>> Wasn't he fairly open about his part in it, when they were the winning 
>> side.
>> I recall film of him with the execution squads shortly before they went 
>> into
>> action.

>Perhaps so, but before any trial he is innocent until proven guilty
>so that status should be reflected in the language used by the
>BBC and other media outlets.
>The 'He's obviously guilty' attitude sets a dangerous precedent.

That's only for the legal system. Nobody else is obliged to assume
he's innocent at all. 

The problem is different when the case is in Britain because of the
danger of prejudicing a jury, but there's no good reason whatever why
the BBC should give Karadzic the benefit of the doubt. He's obviously
a war criminal, and there's no reason not to say so. 

>To be fair to the Beeb on the news this evening they got it right
>most of the time, I think they only slipped up once.

>>>Very sloppy and indeed predjucdiced journalism.

>> pre.... is hard to spell too :o)

>LOL!
>That's one of the most appalling attempts at spelling a word
>I've seen for a long time!


-- 
AH
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In article <op.uephjbiwj3tnem@skynet.wag54gs>, alexserv@himki.net says...
> On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 15:14:42 +0100, Norman Wells   
> wrote:
> 
> > Martin wrote:
> >> On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 13:42:27 +0100, Sofa - Spud
> >>  wrote:
> >>
> >>> Dom Robinson wrote:
> >>>> They haven't shut up about it for ages, but with a name that's
> >>>> pronounced - Radovan Karaditch, to me he sounds like a country and
> >>>> western singer :)
> >>>
> >>> It's his hair that always made me laugh!
> >>
> >> His Santa Claus disguise will make you laugh even more.
> >
> > It's amazing to me that the BBC have consistently referred to his 'heavy  
> > disguise' today, obviously trying to make some point about how evil and  
> > guilty he must be to resort to, er, growing a beard and having a more  
> > modern haircut.
> 
> They referred to it as a heavy disguise because that's what it was. Do you
> think he just accidentally made himself look almost unrecognizable to the
> way he used to?
> 
What did he do - go on Ten Years Younger?
-- 

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Martin wrote:
> On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 13:42:27 +0100, Sofa - Spud 
> wrote:
> 
>> Dom Robinson wrote:
>>> They haven't shut up about it for ages, but with a name that's
>>> pronounced - Radovan Karaditch, to me he sounds like a country and
>>> western singer :)
>> It's his hair that always made me laugh!
> 
> His Santa Claus disguise will make you laugh even more.

It's that bloke off Only fools and horses!!

Alan Hope wrote:
> Col goes:
> 
>> "Martin" <me@address.invalid> wrote in message 
>> news:vp4c84dn1rbc67tm5p4b19qlf56tev88d8@4ax.com...
>>> On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 17:48:04 +0100, "Col"  
>>> wrote:
> 
>>>> Indeed.
>>>> They were also referring to him as 'the war criminal' when of
>>>> course they should have being saying things like, 'wanted for
>>>> war crimes' and 'the suspected war criminal'.
> 
>>> Wasn't he fairly open about his part in it, when they were the winning 
>>> side.
>>> I recall film of him with the execution squads shortly before they went 
>>> into
>>> action.
> 
>> Perhaps so, but before any trial he is innocent until proven guilty
>> so that status should be reflected in the language used by the
>> BBC and other media outlets.
>> The 'He's obviously guilty' attitude sets a dangerous precedent.
> 
> That's only for the legal system. Nobody else is obliged to assume
> he's innocent at all. 
> 
> The problem is different when the case is in Britain because of the
> danger of prejudicing a jury, but there's no good reason whatever why
> the BBC should give Karadzic the benefit of the doubt. He's obviously
> a war criminal, and there's no reason not to say so. 

Good point

welcome back
> 
>> To be fair to the Beeb on the news this evening they got it right
>> most of the time, I think they only slipped up once.
> 
>>>> Very sloppy and indeed predjucdiced journalism.
> 
>>> pre.... is hard to spell too :o)
> 
>> LOL!
>> That's one of the most appalling attempts at spelling a word
>> I've seen for a long time!
> 
>

"Alan Hope"  wrote in message 
news:4gfc841ua853r88ij1uugh924ioqcjgdna@4ax.com...
> Col goes:
>

>
>>Perhaps so, but before any trial he is innocent until proven guilty
>>so that status should be reflected in the language used by the
>>BBC and other media outlets.
>>The 'He's obviously guilty' attitude sets a dangerous precedent.
>
> That's only for the legal system. Nobody else is obliged to assume
> he's innocent at all.
>
> The problem is different when the case is in Britain because of the
> danger of prejudicing a jury, but there's no good reason whatever why
> the BBC should give Karadzic the benefit of the doubt. He's obviously
> a war criminal, and there's no reason not to say so.

I have little doubt that Karadzic is a war criminal and will be
found as such at his impending trial. But that's the thing, we have
a trial to *prove* these assumptions.
At the present moment in time he is not a war criminal, merely
a *suspected* one. The BBC's reporting should reflect this.
-- 
Col

Steal a spaceship and head for the sun,
Shoot the stars with a lemonade ray gun.

On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 19:11:27 +0200, Martin <me@address.invalid> wrote:

>On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 18:07:07 +0100, middlelight@googlemail.com wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 21 Jul 2008 17:04:28 -0700 (PDT), Dom Robinson
>> wrote:
>>
>>>They haven't shut up about it for ages, but with a name that's
>>>pronounced - Radovan Karaditch, to me he sounds like a country and
>>>western singer :)
>>
>>Funny you should say that, as I hear he's releasing a single.  It's a
>>cover version of that old Borat favourite, but with a slight twist:
>>"Throw the Muslim Down the Well". :)
>
>Any truth in the rumour that the McCann's libel lawyers are searching
>newsgroups?

The child killer's lawyers won't find anything libelous from me

"Sofa - Spud"  wrote in message 
news:g65gmv$p9n$6@aioe.org...
> Alan Hope wrote:
>> Col goes:
 >>
>>> Perhaps so, but before any trial he is innocent until proven guilty
>>> so that status should be reflected in the language used by the
>>> BBC and other media outlets.
>>> The 'He's obviously guilty' attitude sets a dangerous precedent.
>>
>> That's only for the legal system. Nobody else is obliged to assume
>> he's innocent at all. The problem is different when the case is in 
>> Britain because of the
>> danger of prejudicing a jury, but there's no good reason whatever why
>> the BBC should give Karadzic the benefit of the doubt. He's obviously
>> a war criminal, and there's no reason not to say so.
>
> Good point
>
> welcome back

You *utter* creep.
-- 
Col

Steal a spaceship and head for the sun,
Shoot the stars with a lemonade ray gun.

On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 22:18:40 +0100, "Col" 
wrote:
>"Alan Hope"  wrote in message 
>news:4gfc841ua853r88ij1uugh924ioqcjgdna@4ax.com...
>> Col goes:
>>>Perhaps so, but before any trial he is innocent until proven guilty
>>>so that status should be reflected in the language used by the
>>>BBC and other media outlets.
>>>The 'He's obviously guilty' attitude sets a dangerous precedent.
>>
>> That's only for the legal system. Nobody else is obliged to assume
>> he's innocent at all.
>>
>> The problem is different when the case is in Britain because of the
>> danger of prejudicing a jury, but there's no good reason whatever why
>> the BBC should give Karadzic the benefit of the doubt. He's obviously
>> a war criminal, and there's no reason not to say so.
>
>I have little doubt that Karadzic is a war criminal and will be
>found as such at his impending trial. But that's the thing, we have
>a trial to *prove* these assumptions.

What's the definition of a War Criminal? Anyone?

"Froot Bat"  wrote in message 
news:488645d6$0$13889$8a667849@news.ak47.org...
> On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 22:18:40 +0100, "Col" 
> wrote:
>>"Alan Hope"  wrote in message
>>news:4gfc841ua853r88ij1uugh924ioqcjgdna@4ax.com...
>>> Col goes:
>>>>Perhaps so, but before any trial he is innocent until proven guilty
>>>>so that status should be reflected in the language used by the
>>>>BBC and other media outlets.
>>>>The 'He's obviously guilty' attitude sets a dangerous precedent.
>>>
>>> That's only for the legal system. Nobody else is obliged to assume
>>> he's innocent at all.
>>>
>>> The problem is different when the case is in Britain because of the
>>> danger of prejudicing a jury, but there's no good reason whatever why
>>> the BBC should give Karadzic the benefit of the doubt. He's obviously
>>> a war criminal, and there's no reason not to say so.
>>
>>I have little doubt that Karadzic is a war criminal and will be
>>found as such at his impending trial. But that's the thing, we have
>>a trial to *prove* these assumptions.
>
> What's the definition of a War Criminal? Anyone?

That's for the court at The Hague to decide!
-- 
Col

Steal a spaceship and head for the sun,
Shoot the stars with a lemonade ray gun.

On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 21:23:28 +0000, Froot Bat  wrote:

>On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 22:18:40 +0100, "Col" 
>wrote:
>>"Alan Hope"  wrote in message 
>>news:4gfc841ua853r88ij1uugh924ioqcjgdna@4ax.com...
>>> Col goes:
>>>>Perhaps so, but before any trial he is innocent until proven guilty
>>>>so that status should be reflected in the language used by the
>>>>BBC and other media outlets.
>>>>The 'He's obviously guilty' attitude sets a dangerous precedent.
>>>
>>> That's only for the legal system. Nobody else is obliged to assume
>>> he's innocent at all.
>>>
>>> The problem is different when the case is in Britain because of the
>>> danger of prejudicing a jury, but there's no good reason whatever why
>>> the BBC should give Karadzic the benefit of the doubt. He's obviously
>>> a war criminal, and there's no reason not to say so.
>>
>>I have little doubt that Karadzic is a war criminal and will be
>>found as such at his impending trial. But that's the thing, we have
>>a trial to *prove* these assumptions.
>
>What's the definition of a War Criminal? Anyone?

That means anyone answer, BTW, not anyone is a war criminal. :P

On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 18:21:31 +0100, "Col"  wrote:

>
>"Martin" <me@address.invalid> wrote in message 
>news:vp4c84dn1rbc67tm5p4b19qlf56tev88d8@4ax.com...
>> On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 17:48:04 +0100, "Col"  
>> wrote:
>
>>>
>>>Indeed.
>>>They were also referring to him as 'the war criminal' when of
>>>course they should have being saying things like, 'wanted for
>>>war crimes' and 'the suspected war criminal'.
>>
>> Wasn't he fairly open about his part in it, when they were the winning 
>> side.
>> I recall film of him with the execution squads shortly before they went 
>> into
>> action.
>
>Perhaps so, but before any trial he is innocent until proven guilty
>so that status should be reflected in the language used by the
>BBC and other media outlets.

The Dutch reports worded it correctly. 

The Dutchbat stuff is going to start up all over again if he stands trial in
Scheveningen.

>The 'He's obviously guilty' attitude sets a dangerous precedent.

As did killing 8,500 innocents whilst a UN peace keeping force stood back and
let it happen. OK there weren;t enough of them but I am sure the British Army
would have done better even if they had been killed doing it.

I used to see the military head of Dutchbat checking in at Schiphol to go to
Belgrade when I was checking in to fly to Rome.

>
>To be fair to the Beeb on the news this evening they got it right
>most of the time, I think they only slipped up once.
>
>>>
>>>Very sloppy and indeed predjucdiced journalism.
>>
>> pre.... is hard to spell too :o)
>
>LOL!
>That's one of the most appalling attempts at spelling a word
>I've seen for a long time!

:o)
-- 

Martin

On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 18:22:57 +0100, middlelight@googlemail.com wrote:

>On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 19:11:27 +0200, Martin <me@address.invalid> wrote:
>
>>On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 18:07:07 +0100, middlelight@googlemail.com wrote:
>>
>>>On Mon, 21 Jul 2008 17:04:28 -0700 (PDT), Dom Robinson
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>They haven't shut up about it for ages, but with a name that's
>>>>pronounced - Radovan Karaditch, to me he sounds like a country and
>>>>western singer :)
>>>
>>>Funny you should say that, as I hear he's releasing a single.  It's a
>>>cover version of that old Borat favourite, but with a slight twist:
>>>"Throw the Muslim Down the Well". :)
>>
>>Any truth in the rumour that the McCann's libel lawyers are searching
>>newsgroups?
>
>For jokes about Radovan Karadzic?  I very much doubt it. :)

Despite which they already found one :o)
-- 

Martin

On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 18:56:57 +0100, Dom Robinson  wrote:

>In article <g64kjq$csr$4@aioe.org>, comfysofas@hotmail.co.uk says...
>> Dom Robinson wrote:
>> > They haven't shut up about it for ages, but with a name that's
>> > pronounced - Radovan Karaditch, to me he sounds like a country and
>> > western singer :)
>> 
>> It's his hair that always made me laugh!
>
>Spot the difference:
>
>Radovan Karadzic
>http://www.doncasterroversfc.premiumtv.co.uk/javaImages/f7/2a/0,,10329~
>3418871,00.jpg
>or http://tinyurl.com/5bt6nw
>
>and John Parr
>http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/6d/Evstafiev-Radovan_Karadzic_
>3MAR94.jpg
>or http://tinyurl.com/69d6tb
>
>:)

Send them to Private Eye and win MONEY!
-- 

Martin

On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 19:01:07 +0100, Dom Robinson  wrote:

>In article , me@address.invalid 
>says...
>> On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 18:07:07 +0100, middlelight@googlemail.com wrote:
>> 
>> >On Mon, 21 Jul 2008 17:04:28 -0700 (PDT), Dom Robinson
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >>They haven't shut up about it for ages, but with a name that's
>> >>pronounced - Radovan Karaditch, to me he sounds like a country and
>> >>western singer :)
>> >
>> >Funny you should say that, as I hear he's releasing a single.  It's a
>> >cover version of that old Borat favourite, but with a slight twist:
>> >"Throw the Muslim Down the Well". :)
>> 
>> Any truth in the rumour that the McCann's libel lawyers are searching
>> newsgroups?
>> 
>Yes, they saw the movie "Tron" at the weekend and think Madeline's been zapped 
>into the mainframe system.

I'm waiting for the book, the movie, the musical  ...
-- 

Martin

On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 19:27:01 +0100, "Fred X"  wrote:

>On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 15:14:42 +0100, Norman Wells   
>wrote:
>
>> Martin wrote:
>>> On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 13:42:27 +0100, Sofa - Spud
>>>  wrote:
>>>
>>>> Dom Robinson wrote:
>>>>> They haven't shut up about it for ages, but with a name that's
>>>>> pronounced - Radovan Karaditch, to me he sounds like a country and
>>>>> western singer :)
>>>>
>>>> It's his hair that always made me laugh!
>>>
>>> His Santa Claus disguise will make you laugh even more.
>>
>> It's amazing to me that the BBC have consistently referred to his 'heavy  
>> disguise' today, obviously trying to make some point about how evil and  
>> guilty he must be to resort to, er, growing a beard and having a more  
>> modern haircut.
>
>They referred to it as a heavy disguise because that's what it was. Do you
>think he just accidentally made himself look almost unrecognizable to the
>way he used to? The fact that you have read this as being some hidden  
>agenda
>says more about you, than it does about the BBC.
>
>> Whereas they think nothing of their ace reporter, John Simpson, dressing  
>> in a burka to get into Afghanistan.
>>
>> Some hypocrisy methinks.
>
>Did John Simpson wear his disguise because he was wanted for war crimes?

or is he a secret-cross dresser?
-- 

Martin

On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 21:17:46 +0100, Dom Robinson  wrote:

>In article <op.uephjbiwj3tnem@skynet.wag54gs>, alexserv@himki.net says...
>> On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 15:14:42 +0100, Norman Wells   
>> wrote:
>> 
>> > Martin wrote:
>> >> On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 13:42:27 +0100, Sofa - Spud
>> >>  wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> Dom Robinson wrote:
>> >>>> They haven't shut up about it for ages, but with a name that's
>> >>>> pronounced - Radovan Karaditch, to me he sounds like a country and
>> >>>> western singer :)
>> >>>
>> >>> It's his hair that always made me laugh!
>> >>
>> >> His Santa Claus disguise will make you laugh even more.
>> >
>> > It's amazing to me that the BBC have consistently referred to his 'heavy  
>> > disguise' today, obviously trying to make some point about how evil and  
>> > guilty he must be to resort to, er, growing a beard and having a more  
>> > modern haircut.
>> 
>> They referred to it as a heavy disguise because that's what it was. Do you
>> think he just accidentally made himself look almost unrecognizable to the
>> way he used to?
>> 
>What did he do - go on Ten Years Younger?

ROFL
-- 

Martin

On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 21:41:02 +0100, Sofa - Spud 
wrote:

>Martin wrote:
>> On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 13:42:27 +0100, Sofa - Spud 
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Dom Robinson wrote:
>>>> They haven't shut up about it for ages, but with a name that's
>>>> pronounced - Radovan Karaditch, to me he sounds like a country and
>>>> western singer :)
>>> It's his hair that always made me laugh!
>> 
>> His Santa Claus disguise will make you laugh even more.
>
>It's that bloke off Only fools and horses!!

Uncle Albert as seen for the last 24 hours on BBC Prime. I'd never have
recognised him otherwise.
-- 

Martin

Col wrote:
> "Sofa - Spud"  wrote in message 
> news:g65gmv$p9n$6@aioe.org...
>> Alan Hope wrote:
>>> Col goes:
>  >>
>>>> Perhaps so, but before any trial he is innocent until proven guilty
>>>> so that status should be reflected in the language used by the
>>>> BBC and other media outlets.
>>>> The 'He's obviously guilty' attitude sets a dangerous precedent.
>>> That's only for the legal system. Nobody else is obliged to assume
>>> he's innocent at all. The problem is different when the case is in 
>>> Britain because of the
>>> danger of prejudicing a jury, but there's no good reason whatever why
>>> the BBC should give Karadzic the benefit of the doubt. He's obviously
>>> a war criminal, and there's no reason not to say so.
>> Good point
>>
>> welcome back
> 
> You *utter* creep.

I'd take him up the grinner than be within 50miles of your mate barmy! :)

On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 23:12:27 +0100, Sofa - Spud 
wrote:

>Col wrote:
>> "Sofa - Spud"  wrote in message 
>> news:g65gmv$p9n$6@aioe.org...
>>> Alan Hope wrote:
>>>> Col goes:
>>  >>
>>>>> Perhaps so, but before any trial he is innocent until proven guilty
>>>>> so that status should be reflected in the language used by the
>>>>> BBC and other media outlets.
>>>>> The 'He's obviously guilty' attitude sets a dangerous precedent.
>>>> That's only for the legal system. Nobody else is obliged to assume
>>>> he's innocent at all. The problem is different when the case is in 
>>>> Britain because of the
>>>> danger of prejudicing a jury, but there's no good reason whatever why
>>>> the BBC should give Karadzic the benefit of the doubt. He's obviously
>>>> a war criminal, and there's no reason not to say so.
>>> Good point
>>>
>>> welcome back
>> 
>> You *utter* creep.
>
>I'd take him up the grinner than be within 50miles of your mate barmy! :)

An overdue flounce warning was issued at 23:59 . 
-- 

Martin

Col goes:

>"Alan Hope"  wrote in message 
>news:4gfc841ua853r88ij1uugh924ioqcjgdna@4ax.com...
>> Col goes:

>>>Perhaps so, but before any trial he is innocent until proven guilty
>>>so that status should be reflected in the language used by the
>>>BBC and other media outlets.
>>>The 'He's obviously guilty' attitude sets a dangerous precedent.

>> That's only for the legal system. Nobody else is obliged to assume
>> he's innocent at all.

>> The problem is different when the case is in Britain because of the
>> danger of prejudicing a jury, but there's no good reason whatever why
>> the BBC should give Karadzic the benefit of the doubt. He's obviously
>> a war criminal, and there's no reason not to say so.

>I have little doubt that Karadzic is a war criminal and will be
>found as such at his impending trial. But that's the thing, we have
>a trial to *prove* these assumptions.
>At the present moment in time he is not a war criminal, merely
>a *suspected* one. The BBC's reporting should reflect this.

I disagree. I think that's a legalistic argument. The BBC is not a
court of law, so the presumption of innocence doesn't apply. As I
said, there's a special case if the trial is to be in Britain because,
as the Court of Appeal has found in the case of the press, a jury may
well be prejudiced by reporting. But that's not the case here. 

It's beyond any doubt whatsoever that Karadzic is a war criminal, and
his only possible defence could be that he doesn't think such things
ought to be illegal. But they are. 

The trial to which he will eventually come will not be there to
determine the facts of the case, but merely to put them on the record.
And then to take care of disposing of the prisoner. 

Your point is an odd one, frankly. Do you think it's wrong to refer to
Hitler as a monster, since he never stood trial? What about Fred West?
Saddam Hussein? Robert Mugabe? How far are you prepared to take this
presumption of innocence? 


-- 
AH
http://grapes2dot0.blogspot.com

On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 at 18:21:31, Col  wrote 
in uk.media.tv.misc :
>>>
>>>Very sloppy and indeed predjucdiced journalism.
>>
>> pre.... is hard to spell too :o)
>
>LOL!
>That's one of the most appalling attempts at spelling a word
>I've seen for a long time!

If you spell too badly, even your speel-chucker can't save you. :)
-- 
Paul 'Charts Fan' Hyett

On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 at 21:20:35, Shaun  
wrote in uk.media.tv.misc :
>
>The child killer's lawyers won't find anything libelous from me

It's rather difficult to libel anyone whose identity is unknown, surely?
-- 
Paul 'Charts Fan' Hyett

On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 at 22:18:40, Col  wrote 
in uk.media.tv.misc :
>>
>>>Perhaps so, but before any trial he is innocent until proven guilty
>>>so that status should be reflected in the language used by the
>>>BBC and other media outlets.
>>>The 'He's obviously guilty' attitude sets a dangerous precedent.
>>
>> That's only for the legal system. Nobody else is obliged to assume
>> he's innocent at all.
>>
>> The problem is different when the case is in Britain because of the
>> danger of prejudicing a jury, but there's no good reason whatever why
>> the BBC should give Karadzic the benefit of the doubt. He's obviously
>> a war criminal, and there's no reason not to say so.
>
>I have little doubt that Karadzic is a war criminal and will be
>found as such at his impending trial. But that's the thing, we have
>a trial to *prove* these assumptions.
>At the present moment in time he is not a war criminal, merely
>a *suspected* one. The BBC's reporting should reflect this.

So the BBC can't call him a war criminal, but people here *can* use that 
term about Bush or Blair, without them even being tried... :)
-- 
Paul 'Charts Fan' Hyett

On 22 Jul, 21:01, Froot Bat  wrote:
> On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 18:56:57 +0100, Dom Robinson
>
>
>
>
>
>  wrote:
> >In article <g64kjq$cs...@aioe.org>, comfyso...@hotmail.co.uk says...
> >> Dom Robinson wrote:
> >> > They haven't shut up about it for ages, but with a name that's
> >> > pronounced - Radovan Karaditch, to me he sounds like a country and
> >> > western singer :)
>
> >> It's his hair that always made me laugh!
>
> >Spot the difference:
>
> >Radovan Karadzic
> >http://www.doncasterroversfc.premiumtv.co.uk/javaImages/f7/2a/0,,10329~
> >3418871,00.jpg
> >orhttp://tinyurl.com/5bt6nw
>
> >and John Parr
> >http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/6d/Evstafiev-Radovan_...
> >3MAR94.jpg
> >orhttp://tinyurl.com/69d6tb
>
> >:)
>
> He sometimes reminds me of Father Ted.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Yes, but his Mother Teresa impersonation is pretty dire.

--
Halmyre

What would you say to a nice cup of tea?

On Wed, 23 Jul 2008 08:51:27 GMT, Paul Hyett  wrote:

>On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 at 22:18:40, Col  wrote 
>in uk.media.tv.misc :
>>>
>>>>Perhaps so, but before any trial he is innocent until proven guilty
>>>>so that status should be reflected in the language used by the
>>>>BBC and other media outlets.
>>>>The 'He's obviously guilty' attitude sets a dangerous precedent.
>>>
>>> That's only for the legal system. Nobody else is obliged to assume
>>> he's innocent at all.
>>>
>>> The problem is different when the case is in Britain because of the
>>> danger of prejudicing a jury, but there's no good reason whatever why
>>> the BBC should give Karadzic the benefit of the doubt. He's obviously
>>> a war criminal, and there's no reason not to say so.
>>
>>I have little doubt that Karadzic is a war criminal and will be
>>found as such at his impending trial. But that's the thing, we have
>>a trial to *prove* these assumptions.
>>At the present moment in time he is not a war criminal, merely
>>a *suspected* one. The BBC's reporting should reflect this.
>
>So the BBC can't call him a war criminal, but people here *can* use that 
>term about Bush or Blair, without them even being tried... :)

In 1991 Karadzic gave a press conference to the international press, he started
with "I am Karadzic, the man responsible for 100,000 deaths". He may have a
short memory, but not those who were there.
-- 

Martin

On Wed, 23 Jul 2008 02:38:01 -0700 (PDT), Halmyre
 wrote:

>On 22 Jul, 21:01, Froot Bat  wrote:
>> On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 18:56:57 +0100, Dom Robinson
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>  wrote:
>> >In article <g64kjq$cs...@aioe.org>, comfyso...@hotmail.co.uk says...
>> >> Dom Robinson wrote:
>> >> > They haven't shut up about it for ages, but with a name that's
>> >> > pronounced - Radovan Karaditch, to me he sounds like a country and
>> >> > western singer :)
>>
>> >> It's his hair that always made me laugh!
>>
>> >Spot the difference:
>>
>> >Radovan Karadzic
>> >http://www.doncasterroversfc.premiumtv.co.uk/javaImages/f7/2a/0,,10329~
>> >3418871,00.jpg
>> >orhttp://tinyurl.com/5bt6nw
>>
>> >and John Parr
>> >http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/6d/Evstafiev-Radovan_...
>> >3MAR94.jpg
>> >orhttp://tinyurl.com/69d6tb
>>
>> >:)
>>
>> He sometimes reminds me of Father Ted.- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
>Yes, but his Mother Teresa impersonation is pretty dire.

I blame the alternative medicine he prescribes himself. It's lucky he doesn;t
look like a werewolf or Mr Hyde.
-- 

Martin

On Wed, 23 Jul 2008 00:49:19 +0200, Alan Hope
 wrote:

>Col goes:
>
>>"Alan Hope"  wrote in message 
>>news:4gfc841ua853r88ij1uugh924ioqcjgdna@4ax.com...
>>> Col goes:
>
>>>>Perhaps so, but before any trial he is innocent until proven guilty
>>>>so that status should be reflected in the language used by the
>>>>BBC and other media outlets.
>>>>The 'He's obviously guilty' attitude sets a dangerous precedent.
>
>>> That's only for the legal system. Nobody else is obliged to assume
>>> he's innocent at all.
>
>>> The problem is different when the case is in Britain because of the
>>> danger of prejudicing a jury, but there's no good reason whatever why
>>> the BBC should give Karadzic the benefit of the doubt. He's obviously
>>> a war criminal, and there's no reason not to say so.
>
>>I have little doubt that Karadzic is a war criminal and will be
>>found as such at his impending trial. But that's the thing, we have
>>a trial to *prove* these assumptions.
>>At the present moment in time he is not a war criminal, merely
>>a *suspected* one. The BBC's reporting should reflect this.
>
>I disagree. I think that's a legalistic argument. The BBC is not a
>court of law, so the presumption of innocence doesn't apply. 

I think your general point may be right, but I think you're wrong
about this. It is absolutely a legalistic issue.

But the reason why the BBC could get away with calling him a War
Criminal is simply that it is (legalistically) probably 'fair
comment'.

That is not to say they _should_ though. 

The only right and proper position for any news organisation that
thinks of itself, and wants to be seen as, serious and impartial and
also doesn't want to waste money on defending legal actions, is to err
on the side of caution at all times and go strictly by the
(legalistic) book.

On 23 Jul, 11:37, Martin <m...@address.invalid> wrote:
> On Wed, 23 Jul 2008 02:38:01 -0700 (PDT), Halmyre
>
>
>
>
>
>  wrote:
> >On 22 Jul, 21:01, Froot Bat  wrote:
> >> On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 18:56:57 +0100, Dom Robinson
>
> >>  wrote:
> >> >In article <g64kjq$cs...@aioe.org>, comfyso...@hotmail.co.uk says...
> >> >> Dom Robinson wrote:
> >> >> > They haven't shut up about it for ages, but with a name that's
> >> >> > pronounced - Radovan Karaditch, to me he sounds like a country and
> >> >> > western singer :)
>
> >> >> It's his hair that always made me laugh!
>
> >> >Spot the difference:
>
> >> >Radovan Karadzic
> >> >http://www.doncasterroversfc.premiumtv.co.uk/javaImages/f7/2a/0,,10329~
> >> >3418871,00.jpg
> >> >orhttp://tinyurl.com/5bt6nw
>
> >> >and John Parr
> >> >http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/6d/Evstafiev-Radovan_...
> >> >3MAR94.jpg
> >> >orhttp://tinyurl.com/69d6tb
>
> >> >:)
>
> >> He sometimes reminds me of Father Ted.- Hide quoted text -
>
> >> - Show quoted text -
>
> >Yes, but his Mother Teresa impersonation is pretty dire.
>
> I blame the alternative medicine he prescribes himself. It's lucky he doesn;t
> look like a werewolf or Mr Hyde.
> --
>
> Martin- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Actually he still looks like Father Ted, but now with a very rare
advanced case of Hairy Hands disease.

--
Halmyre

Lovely fags.

"Alan Hope"  wrote in message 
news:qnoc84dj8g66nqjplqn64sjs8ivcth0ii8@4ax.com...
> Col goes:
>
>>"Alan Hope"  wrote in message

>
>>I have little doubt that Karadzic is a war criminal and will be
>>found as such at his impending trial. But that's the thing, we have
>>a trial to *prove* these assumptions.
>>At the present moment in time he is not a war criminal, merely
>>a *suspected* one. The BBC's reporting should reflect this.
>
> I disagree. I think that's a legalistic argument. The BBC is not a
> court of law, so the presumption of innocence doesn't apply. As I
> said, there's a special case if the trial is to be in Britain because,
> as the Court of Appeal has found in the case of the press, a jury may
> well be prejudiced by reporting. But that's not the case here.

The BBC may not be a court of law but you don't have to be a
court of law for it to be desirable for you to give the proper
facts of the matter. It may be a technicality but the point is the BBC
news is there to tell us that a *suspected* war criminal has been
captured and will be put on trial to answer the charges laid against
him. They wouldn't have to change their reports to any great
degree, just get the wording correct.

> It's beyond any doubt whatsoever that Karadzic is a war criminal, and
> his only possible defence could be that he doesn't think such things
> ought to be illegal. But they are.
>
> The trial to which he will eventually come will not be there to
> determine the facts of the case, but merely to put them on the record.
> And then to take care of disposing of the prisoner.

Why bother with a trial at all, they're expensive aren't they?
As he's so obviously guilty....

> Your point is an odd one, frankly. Do you think it's wrong to refer to
> Hitler as a monster, since he never stood trial? What about Fred West?
> Saddam Hussein? Robert Mugabe? How far are you prepared to take this
> presumption of innocence?

Converesely, would you complain if there was a war-crimes suspect
the BBC called a 'war-criminal' where there was rather more doubt than
Karadzic about their guilt?
At what point would you complain of 'bias'?
-- 
Col

Steal a spaceship and head for the sun,
Shoot the stars with a lemonade ray gun.

"Sofa - Spud"  wrote in message 
news:g65m0i$f2k$1@aioe.org...
> Col wrote:
>> "Sofa - Spud"  wrote in message 
>> news:g65gmv$p9n$6@aioe.org...
>>> Alan Hope wrote:
>>>> Col goes:
>>  >>
>>>>> Perhaps so, but before any trial he is innocent until proven guilty
>>>>> so that status should be reflected in the language used by the
>>>>> BBC and other media outlets.
>>>>> The 'He's obviously guilty' attitude sets a dangerous precedent.
>>>> That's only for the legal system. Nobody else is obliged to assume
>>>> he's innocent at all. The problem is different when the case is in 
>>>> Britain because of the
>>>> danger of prejudicing a jury, but there's no good reason whatever why
>>>> the BBC should give Karadzic the benefit of the doubt. He's obviously
>>>> a war criminal, and there's no reason not to say so.
>>> Good point
>>>
>>> welcome back
>>
>> You *utter* creep.
>
> I'd take him up the grinner than be within 50miles of your mate barmy! :)

Would that be the same Barker who a few weeks ago I told to
'go fuck himself' becasue he'd accused me of being a troll?
-- 
Col

Steal a spaceship and head for the sun,
Shoot the stars with a lemonade ray gun.

On Wed, 23 Jul 2008 at 00:49:19, Alan Hope  
wrote in uk.media.tv.misc :

>It's beyond any doubt whatsoever that Karadzic is a war criminal, and
>his only possible defence could be that he doesn't think such things
>ought to be illegal. But they are.
>
>The trial to which he will eventually come will not be there to
>determine the facts of the case, but merely to put them on the record.
>And then to take care of disposing of the prisoner.

Either way, he'll get a lot fairer hearing than his regime's victims 
ever had!
>
>Your point is an odd one, frankly. Do you think it's wrong to refer to
>Hitler as a monster, since he never stood trial? What about Fred West?
>Saddam Hussein? Robert Mugabe? How far are you prepared to take this
>presumption of innocence?

Saddam *did* stand trial, of course.

Interesting point, though.
-- 
Paul 'Charts Fan' Hyett

In article , me@address.invalid 
says...
> On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 19:27:01 +0100, "Fred X"  wrote:
> 
> >On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 15:14:42 +0100, Norman Wells   
> >wrote:
> >
> >> Martin wrote:
> >>> On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 13:42:27 +0100, Sofa - Spud
> >>>  wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Dom Robinson wrote:
> >>>>> They haven't shut up about it for ages, but with a name that's
> >>>>> pronounced - Radovan Karaditch, to me he sounds like a country and
> >>>>> western singer :)
> >>>>
> >>>> It's his hair that always made me laugh!
> >>>
> >>> His Santa Claus disguise will make you laugh even more.
> >>
> >> It's amazing to me that the BBC have consistently referred to his 'heavy  
> >> disguise' today, obviously trying to make some point about how evil and  
> >> guilty he must be to resort to, er, growing a beard and having a more  
> >> modern haircut.
> >
> >They referred to it as a heavy disguise because that's what it was. Do you
> >think he just accidentally made himself look almost unrecognizable to the
> >way he used to? The fact that you have read this as being some hidden  
> >agenda
> >says more about you, than it does about the BBC.
> >
> >> Whereas they think nothing of their ace reporter, John Simpson, dressing  
> >> in a burka to get into Afghanistan.
> >>
> >> Some hypocrisy methinks.
> >
> >Did John Simpson wear his disguise because he was wanted for war crimes?
> 
> or is he a secret-cross dresser?
> 
No, he's a secret lemonade drinker :)
-- 

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"Dom Robinson"  wrote in message 
news:MPG.22f2d9a91626a33c989d1a@news.individual.net...

>>
> No, he's a secret lemonade drinker :)

R Karadzic's, R.Karadzic's.......

Shit, that'll never work as an advertising jingle :)
-- 
Col

Steal a spaceship and head for the sun,
Shoot the stars with a lemonade ray gun.

In article <4888cf62$1_1@mk-nntp-2.news.uk.tiscali.com>, reddwarfer2
@tiscali.co.uk says...
> 
> "Dom Robinson"  wrote in message 
> news:MPG.22f2d9a91626a33c989d1a@news.individual.net...
> 
> >>
> > No, he's a secret lemonade drinker :)
> 
> R Karadzic's, R.Karadzic's.......
> 
> Shit, that'll never work as an advertising jingle :)
> 
No, but he can put out a 'greatest hits'. Sadly, though, that'll be all his 
snipers executing their victims.
-- 

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On Fri, 25 Jul 2008 00:04:34 +0100, Dom Robinson
 wrote:

>In article <4888cf62$1_1@mk-nntp-2.news.uk.tiscali.com>, reddwarfer2
>@tiscali.co.uk says...
>> 
>> "Dom Robinson"  wrote in message 
>> news:MPG.22f2d9a91626a33c989d1a@news.individual.net...
>> 
>> >>
>> > No, he's a secret lemonade drinker :)
>> 
>> R Karadzic's, R.Karadzic's.......
>> 
>> Shit, that'll never work as an advertising jingle :)
>> 
>No, but he can put out a 'greatest hits'. Sadly, though, that'll be all his 
>snipers executing their victims.


When was R Whites lemonade around?