http://driving.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/driving/used_car_reviews/article3552994.ece

Simon

In <2008070322400616807-nada@nonamecom>, Simon  wrote:

>http://driving.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/driving/used_car_reviews/article3552994.ece

"Toyota Prius: driven by Jason Dawe"
ie - the previously sacked Top Gear presenter! What a coincidence.

Does Dave show any of the Dawe episodes?

Simon wrote:
> http://driving.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/driving/used_car_reviews/article3552994.ece 

The Prius is a joke, bought by people with lots of money, trying to show 
their supposed green credentials, when the real problem, or at least a 
significant part of it, lies at their fingertips (the motor car itself).

Personal car travel is NOT SUSTAINABLE. Accept it.

> ie - the previously sacked Top Gear presenter! What a coincidence.

I don't see how that invalidates the figures.

Simon

On 4 Jul, 00:27, Anton Gÿsen <an...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> Simon wrote:
> >http://driving.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/driving/used_car_...
>
> The Prius is a joke, bought by people with lots of money, trying to show
> their supposed green credentials, when the real problem, or at least a
> significant part of it, lies at their fingertips (the motor car itself).
>
> Personal car travel is NOT SUSTAINABLE. Accept it.

Of course it is, just not for the poor.

On Jul 4, 12:27 am, Anton Gÿsen <an...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> Simon wrote:
> >http://driving.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/driving/used_car_...
>
> The Prius is a joke,

Shurely you mean the Toyota Pious, emits clouds of smug...

On Jul 4, 10:10 am, theodored...@googlemail.com wrote:
> On 4 Jul, 00:27, Anton Gÿsen <an...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>
> > Simon wrote:
> > >http://driving.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/driving/used_car_.> > The Prius is a joke, bought by people with lots of money, trying to show
> > their supposed green credentials, when the real problem, or at least a
> > significant part of it, lies at their fingertips (the motor car itself)David Tennant has one too. And he pretty much admits exactly that. he
bought one to show everyone how green he is but when told they arent,
really, he doesnt care.

“Now, I’m clearly no Al Gore, but I liked the idea of doing my bit.
And then you get someone telling you that the environmental cost in
manufacturing a [Toyota] Prius is worse than driving some gas-guzzling
monster for 10 years. I have no idea what the truth is, although of
course I should have found out.”

http://entertainment.timesonline.co.uk/tol/arts_and_entertainment/tv_and_radio/article3688463.ece

On Thu, 03 Jul 2008 22:40:06 +0100, Simon  wrote:

> http://driving.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/driving/used_car_reviews/article3552994.ece
>
> Simon

Now let's see them repeat that test by driving 525 miles around London.

Fred X

In <2008070409170116807-nada@nonamecom>, Simon  wrote:

>> ie - the previously sacked Top Gear presenter! What a coincidence.
>
>I don't see how that invalidates the figures.

I don't see how you would think that it might.

Simon wrote:

> I don't see how that invalidates the figures.

The figures given may be perfectly fine, but the test was still a cheat
since it was done at a steady speed. In stop-start traffic the Prius can
generate power to slow down instead of using its brakes. Furthermore, it
was inefficiently going flat out, while the BMW was merely cruising.

If you had read the earlier thread, then you would know that. :)


Fliss

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He said: Good. That way we don't have to pay for
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Felicity S. wrote:
> Simon wrote:
> 
>> I don't see how that invalidates the figures.
> 
> The figures given may be perfectly fine, but the test was still a cheat
> since it was done at a steady speed. In stop-start traffic the Prius can
> generate power to slow down instead of using its brakes. Furthermore, it
> was inefficiently going flat out, while the BMW was merely cruising.

The Prius definitely wins in typical traffic conditions when it is smart 
enough to switch off the engine when stationary, and use the electric 
motor when crawling along in a queue.

-- 
neil h
google brights

Neil Hopkins wrote:

> Felicity S. wrote:
>> Simon wrote:

>>> I don't see how that invalidates the figures.

>> The figures given may be perfectly fine, but the test was still a cheat
>> since it was done at a steady speed. In stop-start traffic the Prius can
>> generate power to slow down instead of using its brakes. Furthermore, it
>> was inefficiently going flat out, while the BMW was merely cruising.

> The Prius definitely wins in typical traffic conditions when it is smart
> enough to switch off the engine when stationary, and use the electric
> motor when crawling along in a queue.

Okay, that makes four advantages to the Prius, in a fair test.


Fliss

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She said: Just seeing a Santa... Shall I try a Santa?
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