"Troll--An individual who regularly posts specious arguments, flames,
or personal attacks to a newsgroup, discussion list, or in email for
no other purpose than to annoy someone or disrupt a discussion.
Trolls
are recognizable by the fact that they have no real interest in
learning
about the topic at hand--they simply want to utter flame bait.  Like
the
ugly creatures after which they are named, they exhibit no redeeming
characteristics, and as such, they are recognized as a lower form of
life on the Net."

Number of times Plowman / Spud / Dr Colon Turner have 'trolled' an on
topic discussion just to snipe at me or others in the last week: 142

Percentage of Plowman / Spud / Dr Colon Turner's posts that have been
positive on topic posts rather than negative trolling snipes in same
period: 18%

Ratio of my responses to their attempts to attract attention: 1 in 12
posts i.e. 8%

These are facts. The figures were obtained from the Krustov Foundation
For Internet Science. (Or maybe they weren't.)

Conclusion: these people are trolls who have far less interest in
tennis, football, music, comedy or TV drama than they do in starting
or perpetuating arguments. Their behaviour is discussed here:

http://www.virtualschool.edu/mon/SocialConstruction/Logic.html

So, should they be shot or just have their internet connections
terminated?

NB. Messrs Col and Mickey Adams are ventriloquist trolls wearing
disguises so would skew the figures. Alan "The Gimp" Hope's absence is
attributable to his finding love in other usenet newsgroups. Osc and
Viv are just plain stupid.

In article <3d75e88e-5396-4ea0-bb19-5fac3c7e2353@
25g2000hsx.googlegroups.com>, hauntedriver@hotmail.com says...


> "Troll--An individual who regularly posts specious arguments, flames,
> or personal attacks to a newsgroup, discussion list, or in email for

[much snipped.]

> NB. Messrs Col and Mickey Adams are ventriloquist trolls wearing
> disguises so would skew the figures. Alan "The Gimp" Hope's absence is
> attributable to his finding love in other usenet newsgroups. Osc and
> Viv are just plain stupid.

Nice try, conehead, but you should really stick to creepy stalking. 
You've got that down.


--
viv

Saviour Machine wrote:
> "Troll--An individual who regularly posts specious arguments, flames,
> or personal attacks to a newsgroup, discussion list, or in email for
> no other purpose than to annoy someone or disrupt a discussion.
> Trolls are rec...


TL:DR



-- 
Enzo

I wear the cheese. It does not wear me.

On Thu, 3 Jul 2008 08:43:34 -0700 (PDT), Saviour Machine
 wrote:

>attributable to his finding love in other usenet newsgroups. Osc and
>Viv are just plain stupid.
>

______Troll-o-meter__________

0...1...2...3...4...5...6...7...8...9...10
--------------------------------------------------------------------------->

What a moron.

On Thu, 3 Jul 2008 08:43:34 -0700 (PDT), Saviour Machine
 wrote:

>about the topic at hand--they simply want to utter flame bait.  Like
>the
>ugly creatures after which they are named, t

Look up the meaning of troll, editor boy.

If wit was spunk you couldn't make an ant pregnant.

On 3 Jul, 16:43, Saviour Machine  wrote:

>
> NB. Messrs Col and Mickey Adams are ventriloquist trolls wearing
> disguises so would skew the figures. Alan "The Gimp" Hope's absence is
> attributable to his finding love in other usenet newsgroups. Osc and
> Viv are just plain stupid.

And just what the hell is *that* supposed to mean?
It was only the other week that you considered me a
'neutral' in all this, now I'm a troll with someone's hand
up my arse, I don't know what's changed.
You know, I always tried to be fair by you, I really have.
Yes, I've strongly critisised your off-line activities yet
I havent indulged in the outright abuse others have given
you and responded 'normally' to many of your posts.
And yet you call me a troll.

Well you know what Barker, you can go and *fuck* yourself.

Col

"Col"  wrote in message 
news:5b40cb68-6aa8-4282-a00a-f84e9610fbe1@m44g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...
> On 3 Jul, 16:43, Saviour Machine  wrote:
>
>>
>> NB. Messrs Col and Mickey Adams are ventriloquist trolls wearing
>> disguises so would skew the figures. Alan "The Gimp" Hope's absence is
>> attributable to his finding love in other usenet newsgroups. Osc and
>> Viv are just plain stupid.
>
> And just what the hell is *that* supposed to mean?
> It was only the other week that you considered me a
> 'neutral' in all this, now I'm a troll with someone's hand
> up my arse, I don't know what's changed.
> You know, I always tried to be fair by you, I really have.
> Yes, I've strongly critisised your off-line activities yet
> I havent indulged in the outright abuse others have given
> you and responded 'normally' to many of your posts.
> And yet you call me a troll.
>
> Well you know what Barker, you can go and *fuck* yourself.
>
> Col
>

Were you silly enough not to agree with him at some point?

BTW, what are these off line activities you refer to?

AC

On 3 Jul, 19:53, "AC"  wrote:
> "Col"  wrote in message
>
> news:5b40cb68-6aa8-4282-a00a-f84e9610fbe1@m44g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
>
>
> > On 3 Jul, 16:43, Saviour Machine  wrote:
>
> >> NB. Messrs Col and Mickey Adams are ventriloquist trolls wearing
> >> disguises so would skew the figures. Alan "The Gimp" Hope's absence is
> >> attributable to his finding love in other usenet newsgroups. Osc and
> >> Viv are just plain stupid.
>
> > And just what the hell is *that* supposed to mean?
> > It was only the other week that you considered me a
> > 'neutral' in all this, now I'm a troll with someone's hand
> > up my arse, I don't know what's changed.
> > You know, I always tried to be fair by you, I really have.
> > Yes, I've strongly critisised your off-line activities yet
> > I havent indulged in the outright abuse others have given
> > you and responded 'normally' to many of your posts.
> > And yet you call me a troll.
>
> > Well you know what Barker, you can go and *fuck* yourself.
>
> > Col
>
> Were you silly enough not to agree with him at some point?

Well not in the lat 12 hours or so when he was replying perfectly
normally to me....

> BTW, what are these off line activities you refer to?

You've really not been following this, have you?
I'll leave it to those directly involved to give the details but it
involves things like writing to peoples' employers in order to
get them sacked. It's as serious as that.

Col

"Col"  wrote in message 
news:a58bb474-6ae9-495d-ab2f-5da50ae3cec2@r66g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
> On 3 Jul, 19:53, "AC"  wrote:
>> "Col"  wrote in message
>>
>> news:5b40cb68-6aa8-4282-a00a-f84e9610fbe1@m44g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> > On 3 Jul, 16:43, Saviour Machine  wrote:
>>
>> >> NB. Messrs Col and Mickey Adams are ventriloquist trolls wearing
>> >> disguises so would skew the figures. Alan "The Gimp" Hope's absence is
>> >> attributable to his finding love in other usenet newsgroups. Osc and
>> >> Viv are just plain stupid.
>>
>> > And just what the hell is *that* supposed to mean?
>> > It was only the other week that you considered me a
>> > 'neutral' in all this, now I'm a troll with someone's hand
>> > up my arse, I don't know what's changed.
>> > You know, I always tried to be fair by you, I really have.
>> > Yes, I've strongly critisised your off-line activities yet
>> > I havent indulged in the outright abuse others have given
>> > you and responded 'normally' to many of your posts.
>> > And yet you call me a troll.
>>
>> > Well you know what Barker, you can go and *fuck* yourself.
>>
>> > Col
>>
>> Were you silly enough not to agree with him at some point?
>
> Well not in the lat 12 hours or so when he was replying perfectly
> normally to me....
>
>> BTW, what are these off line activities you refer to?
>
> You've really not been following this, have you?

No I haven't.

> I'll leave it to those directly involved to give the details but it
> involves things like writing to peoples' employers in order to
> get them sacked. It's as serious as that.
>

Oh, OK, that rings a bell or two. Can't remember any details but I remember 
enough.

Cheers

AC

On Thu, 03 Jul 2008 08:43:34 -0700, Saviour Machine wrote:

> "Troll--

Saviour Machine > /dev/null

On Thu, 03 Jul 2008 08:43:34 -0700, Saviour Machine wrote:

> "Troll--An individual who regularly posts specious arguments, flames, or

[snip Barker drivel] 

TL;DR

> NB. Messrs Col and Mickey Adams are ventriloquist trolls wearing
> disguises so would skew the figures. Alan "The Gimp" Hope's absence is
> attributable to his finding love in other usenet newsgroups. Osc and Viv
> are just plain stupid.

While skimming this, I imagined Roy Castle singing:

Medication, medication
medication, that's what you need

On 3 Jul, 19:14, Col  wrote:

> On 3 Jul, 16:43, Saviour Machine  wrote:
>
>
>
> > NB. Messrs Col and Mickey Adams are ventriloquist trolls wearing
> > disguises so would skew the figures. Alan "The Gimp" Hope's absence is
> > attributable to his finding love in other usenet newsgroups. Osc and
> > Viv are just plain stupid.
>
> And just what the hell is *that* supposed to mean?
> It was only the other week that you considered me a
> 'neutral' in all this, now I'm a troll with someone's hand
> up my arse, I don't know what's changed.
> You know, I always tried to be fair by you, I really have.
> Yes, I've strongly critisised your off-line activities yet
> I havent indulged in the outright abuse others have given
> you and responded 'normally' to many of your posts.
> And yet you call me a troll.
>
> Well you know what Barker, you can go and *fuck* yourself.
>
> Col

(Calm down, dear, it's only an advert.)

Ahem, I called you the ventriloquist not the dummy. You and Adams
quite mischievously wind people up just for fun. That's my point. You
have confessed to having done this several times; Adams never admits
to doing it, but he still does it, quite regularly.

By all means, do leap to erroneous conclusions and hurl abuse around,
that's your perogative, but please take that wonky old 'stalker'
record off the turntable will you? I really do not care one mote of
dust what a half dozen UMTM brawlers think about my policy of stirring
up trouble for people who are so unkind and nasty as to disparage my
family or libel me by way of supposed "on topic discussion" (just as I
no longer care about the ridiculous exaggerations that have been made
about anything I may have done).

Plowman, Spud and Hopeless are rancorous and bitter old hypocrites
whose only joy in life stems from endless and ridiculous internet
argument. I couldn't give a damn if they lost their homes, careers or
families as a result of their pathetic online behaviour, and nor do I
give a damn about what you think about my stance. My only reaction to
the whole thing is one of utter boredom. That's why I'm far happier
engaging in banter with other UMTMers, the UMTMers who stick to the
issues under discussion and don't immediately launch a vitrilioc and
unceasing offensive against anyone who doesn't agree with them.

Hopefully this has clarified things for you.

On Thu, 03 Jul 2008 14:37:51 -0700, Saviour Machine wrote:

> Plowman, Spud and Hopeless are rancorous and bitter old hypocrites whose
> only joy in life stems from endless and ridiculous internet argument. 

And what's yours? 

You are an empty shell of a man. You have nothing in your usenet track 
record but a long list of groups/posters who think you are mentally ill. 

> I couldn't give a damn if they lost their homes, careers or 
> families as a result of their pathetic online behaviour, 

And that, you moron, is why you fail. Repeatedly. Hopelessly. 
Irredeemably.

Saviour Machine wrote:
> On 3 Jul, 19:14, Col  wrote:
>
> My only reaction to the whole thing is one of utter boredom. That's why 
>  >I'm far happier engaging in banter with other UMTMers, the UMTMers >who 
> stick to the issues under discussion and don't immediately launch a 
>  >vitrilioc and unceasing offensive against anyone who doesn't agree >with 
> them.
>
And yet, the fact that you started this particular thread (among others in 
the recent past), belie both these statements.  And your previous claims 
that you are quite able to simply ignore those who've "wronged" you were 
obviously patently false.  You really are quite sad.

-- 
Mary Sue (mamie007)
Ottawa

Saviour Machine wrote:
> On 3 Jul, 19:14, Col  wrote:
> 
>> On 3 Jul, 16:43, Saviour Machine  wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>> NB. Messrs Col and Mickey Adams are ventriloquist trolls wearing
>>> disguises so would skew the figures. Alan "The Gimp" Hope's absence is
>>> attributable to his finding love in other usenet newsgroups. Osc and
>>> Viv are just plain stupid.
>> And just what the hell is *that* supposed to mean?
>> It was only the other week that you considered me a
>> 'neutral' in all this, now I'm a troll with someone's hand
>> up my arse, I don't know what's changed.
>> You know, I always tried to be fair by you, I really have.
>> Yes, I've strongly critisised your off-line activities yet
>> I havent indulged in the outright abuse others have given
>> you and responded 'normally' to many of your posts.
>> And yet you call me a troll.
>>
>> Well you know what Barker, you can go and *fuck* yourself.
>>
>> Col
> 
> (Calm down, dear, it's only an advert.)
> 
> Ahem, I called you the ventriloquist not the dummy. You and Adams
> quite mischievously wind people up just for fun. That's my point. You
> have confessed to having done this several times; Adams never admits
> to doing it, but he still does it, quite regularly.
> 
> By all means, do leap to erroneous conclusions and hurl abuse around,
> that's your perogative, but please take that wonky old 'stalker'
> record off the turntable will you? I really do not care one mote of
> dust what a half dozen UMTM brawlers think about my policy of stirring
> up trouble for people who are so unkind and nasty as to disparage my
> family or libel me


Just for anyone popping in - it's worth a check of the google groups 
archive that barker spent several years trolling this group with his 
arguments with some haunted writers society that had snubbed him for 
bieng crap. He posted pictures of wives, addresses , personal 
information everything . People here got so sick of it that it was 
thrown back at him - hence we are at the position we are at now.

Check the archive - barker is a serial liar, he can give it out but 
can't take it back.

Beware this man who takes stuff into real life , contacting employers, 
MP's, posting addresses, posting all over usenet to get peoples 
addresses so he can *go round and sort them out* ( particularly silly of 
him as he reckons a man from usenet went round and *glared* at him over 
the hedge the poor thing)

A real internet loon is barker!






by way of supposed "on topic discussion" (just as I
> no longer care about the ridiculous exaggerations that have been made
> about anything I may have done).
> 
> Plowman, Spud and Hopeless are rancorous and bitter old hypocrites
> whose only joy in life stems from endless and ridiculous internet
> argument. I couldn't give a damn if they lost their homes, careers or
> families as a result of their pathetic online behaviour, and nor do I
> give a damn about what you think about my stance. My only reaction to
> the whole thing is one of utter boredom. That's why I'm far happier
> engaging in banter with other UMTMers, the UMTMers who stick to the
> issues under discussion and don't immediately launch a vitrilioc and
> unceasing offensive against anyone who doesn't agree with them.
> 
> Hopefully this has clarified things for you.
> 
Thats it barker - burn the bridges with one of the few that will 
actually give you the time of day. What a buffoon you are.

"Sofa - Spud"  wrote in message 
news:g4jke5$srp$1@aioe.org...
> Saviour Machine wrote:
>> On 3 Jul, 19:14, Col  wrote:
>>
>>> On 3 Jul, 16:43, Saviour Machine  wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> NB. Messrs Col and Mickey Adams are ventriloquist trolls wearing
>>>> disguises so would skew the figures. Alan "The Gimp" Hope's absence is
>>>> attributable to his finding love in other usenet newsgroups. Osc and
>>>> Viv are just plain stupid.
>>> And just what the hell is *that* supposed to mean?
>>> It was only the other week that you considered me a
>>> 'neutral' in all this, now I'm a troll with someone's hand
>>> up my arse, I don't know what's changed.
>>> You know, I always tried to be fair by you, I really have.
>>> Yes, I've strongly critisised your off-line activities yet
>>> I havent indulged in the outright abuse others have given
>>> you and responded 'normally' to many of your posts.
>>> And yet you call me a troll.
>>>
>>> Well you know what Barker, you can go and *fuck* yourself.
>>>
>>> Col
>>
>> (Calm down, dear, it's only an advert.)
>>
>> Ahem, I called you the ventriloquist not the dummy. You and Adams
>> quite mischievously wind people up just for fun. That's my point. You
>> have confessed to having done this several times; Adams never admits
>> to doing it, but he still does it, quite regularly.
>>
>> By all means, do leap to erroneous conclusions and hurl abuse around,
>> that's your perogative, but please take that wonky old 'stalker'
>> record off the turntable will you? I really do not care one mote of
>> dust what a half dozen UMTM brawlers think about my policy of stirring
>> up trouble for people who are so unkind and nasty as to disparage my
>> family or libel me
>
>
> Just for anyone popping in - it's worth a check of the google groups 
> archive that barker spent several years trolling this group with his 
> arguments with some haunted writers society that had snubbed him for bieng 
> crap. He posted pictures of wives, addresses , personal information 
> everything . People here got so sick of it that it was thrown back at 
> him - hence we are at the position we are at now.
>
> Check the archive - barker is a serial liar, he can give it out but can't 
> take it back.
>
> Beware this man who takes stuff into real life , contacting employers, 
> MP's, posting addresses, posting all over usenet to get peoples addresses 
> so he can *go round and sort them out* ( particularly silly of him as he 
> reckons a man from usenet went round and *glared* at him over the hedge 
> the poor thing)
>
> A real internet loon is barker!
>
>
>
>
>
>
> by way of supposed "on topic discussion" (just as I
>> no longer care about the ridiculous exaggerations that have been made
>> about anything I may have done).
>>
>> Plowman, Spud and Hopeless are rancorous and bitter old hypocrites
>> whose only joy in life stems from endless and ridiculous internet
>> argument. I couldn't give a damn if they lost their homes, careers or
>> families as a result of their pathetic online behaviour, and nor do I
>> give a damn about what you think about my stance. My only reaction to
>> the whole thing is one of utter boredom. That's why I'm far happier
>> engaging in banter with other UMTMers, the UMTMers who stick to the
>> issues under discussion and don't immediately launch a vitrilioc and
>> unceasing offensive against anyone who doesn't agree with them.
>>
>> Hopefully this has clarified things for you.
>>
> Thats it barker - burn the bridges with one of the few that will actually 
> give you the time of day. What a buffoon you are.



Assuming all that is completely true and in context, then why not talk to 
the police? That's clear harassment, at least.

AC

On Jul 3, 4:43 pm, Saviour Machine  wrote:
> "Troll--An individual who regularly posts specious arguments, flames,
> or personal attacks to a newsgroup, discussion list, or in email for
> no other purpose than to annoy someone or disrupt a discussion.
> Trolls
> are recognizable by the fact that they have no real interest in
> learning
> about the topic at hand--they simply want to utter flame bait.  Like
> the
> ugly creatures after which they are named, they exhibit no redeeming
> characteristics, and as such, they are recognized as a lower form of
> life on the Net."

No need to introduce yourself, old bean: you're known here of old.

If your interpretation of the word 'troll' is correct, then you fit
the bill perfectly. You've posted numerous specious arguments, flames
and personal attacks in the past few weeks, in most cases with
absolutely no purpose other than to annoy people or interrupt
discussions.


> Number of times Plowman / Spud / Dr Colon Turner have 'trolled' an on
> topic discussion just to snipe at me or others in the last week: 142

So *that's* what you were doing while you were 'ignoring' us: you were
totting up the figures to see how many times we hadn't ignored *you*.
Oh, the lengths one goes to for self-validation. Would that old
Sigmund were still in the realm of the living: he'd be creaming his
tweeds at the thought of getting you on his couch.


> Percentage of Plowman / Spud / Dr Colon Turner's posts that have been
> positive on topic posts rather than negative trolling snipes in same
> period: 18%

There are lies, there and damned lies and then there are statistics.
Also, 42% of all statistics are made up on the spur of the moment.


> Ratio of my responses to their attempts to attract attention: 1 in 12
> posts i.e. 8%

You responded to all of the posts by reading and recording them in
your little book of statistics. That you actually answered only 8% of
them is neither here nor there.

You couldn't do it, could you? You said you'd ignore us, but you just
can't help yourself.

On Thu, 3 Jul 2008 11:14:09 -0700 (PDT), Col
 wrote:

>On 3 Jul, 16:43, Saviour Machine  wrote:
>
>>
>> NB. Messrs Col and Mickey Adams are ventriloquist trolls wearing
>> disguises so would skew the figures. Alan "The Gimp" Hope's absence is
>> attributable to his finding love in other usenet newsgroups. Osc and
>> Viv are just plain stupid.
>
>And just what the hell is *that* supposed to mean?
>It was only the other week that you considered me a
>'neutral' in all this, now I'm a troll with someone's hand
>up my arse, I don't know what's changed.
>You know, I always tried to be fair by you, I really have.
>Yes, I've strongly critisised your off-line activities yet
>I havent indulged in the outright abuse others have given
>you and responded 'normally' to many of your posts.
>And yet you call me a troll.
>
>Well you know what Barker, you can go and *fuck* yourself.
>
>Col
>

LOL, Nice one Col.
<Axl>
Welcome to the jungle
</Acl>

On Thu, 3 Jul 2008 22:10:41 +0200 (CEST), osc 
wrote:

>On Thu, 03 Jul 2008 08:43:34 -0700, Saviour Machine wrote:
>
>> "Troll--An individual who regularly posts specious arguments, flames, or
>
>[snip Barker drivel] 
>
>TL;DR
>
>> NB. Messrs Col and Mickey Adams are ventriloquist trolls wearing
>> disguises so would skew the figures. Alan "The Gimp" Hope's absence is
>> attributable to his finding love in other usenet newsgroups. Osc and Viv
>> are just plain stupid.
>
>While skimming this, I imagined Roy Castle singing:
>
>Medication, medication
>medication, that's what you need

LOL!!

On Thu, 3 Jul 2008 14:37:51 -0700 (PDT), Saviour Machine
 wrote:

>Plowman, Spud and Hopeless are rancorous and bitter old hypocrites
>whose only joy in life stems from endless and ridiculous internet
>argument. 


Please, Jacobim, do show where we enjoy endless internet argument.
Everyone here has a laugh and some banter and occasionally disagree.
Read back, see Paul Hyett and me having an argument about
homosexuality. We agree to differ. He didn't write to someone that I
wasn't actually employed by trying to get me sacked or publish my home
address in here, did he? No, cos he can have an argument or the piss
taken out of him a bit and he doesn't cry and run to the playground
monitor like you do.

The only person who gets stick is you and guess what,, it will
continue. You will continue to have your attempts to stir up trouble
in people's lives highlighted at every opportunity. You will continue
to have your utter inability to write a sentence that doesn't induce
comas in the readers pointed out.  You will have your utter failure to
get a single piece of work published by a real publisher pointed out. 

And when Reggie's next book comes out, ,,,,,,,we're all going to buy
it and we're all going to celebrate when it wins an award. 

>I couldn't give a damn if they lost their homes, careers or
>families as a result of their pathetic online behaviour, and nor do I
>give a damn about what you think about my stance. My only reaction to
>the whole thing is one of utter boredom. 

Hardly. It makes your day I think. I think Rosie hit the nail
perfectly on the head when she described your behaviour on here as one
of futile rage at your life. She said you find yourself trapped in an
awful life and this is your only outlet for your anger and I think she
is correct. 

>That's why I'm far happier
>engaging in banter with other UMTMers, the UMTMers who stick to the
>issues under discussion and don't immediately launch a vitrilioc and
>unceasing offensive against anyone who doesn't agree with them.

Ah yes, the like big  venue or home town thread that you started. Ooh
look at me, I've saved up enough of my wife's money to go to a
theatre. Result. Silence. You chould change your nick to Thread
Killer. 

Still, you could always regale us with some more of your wonderous
tales of who your dad knew to keep us going till you actually do
something in 'your' life.

And what about all the threads you have started about people just to
get some attention cos I'm damn sure no-one is giving you any in your
real life.

On 3 Jul, 22:37, Saviour Machine  wrote:
> On 3 Jul, 19:14, Col  wrote:
>
>
>
>
>

>
> > And just what the hell is *that* supposed to mean?
> > It was only the other week that you considered me a
> > 'neutral' in all this, now I'm a troll with someone's hand
> > up my arse, I don't know what's changed.
> > You know, I always tried to be fair by you, I really have.
> > Yes, I've strongly critisised your off-line activities yet
> > I havent indulged in the outright abuse others have given
> > you and responded 'normally' to many of your posts.
> > And yet you call me a troll.
>
> > Well you know what Barker, you can go and *fuck* yourself.
>
> > Col
>
> (Calm down, dear, it's only an advert.)

You accused me of being a troll, what did you expect?

> Ahem, I called you the ventriloquist not the dummy. You and Adams
> quite mischievously wind people up just for fun. That's my point. You
> have confessed to having done this several times; Adams never admits
> to doing it, but he still does it, quite regularly.

I don't deliberately wind people up, sure I enjoy the banter but we
all
do that, don't we?
Show me when I have done this, let alone 'confessed' to it.
Good God man, I don't even *need* to wind people up, even if
I wanted to. I can just watch everybody else effortlessly do it to
you.


> By all means, do leap to erroneous conclusions and hurl abuse around,
> that's your perogative, but please take that wonky old 'stalker'
> record off the turntable will you? I really do not care one mote of
> dust what a half dozen UMTM brawlers think about my policy of stirring
> up trouble for people who are so unkind and nasty as to disparage my
> family or libel me by way of supposed "on topic discussion" (just as I
> no longer care about the ridiculous exaggerations that have been made
> about anything I may have done).

Firstly, I have *never* accused you of been a stalker.
Secondly, what the hell do you expect, of course people are going to
keep
bringing it up!

> Plowman, Spud and Hopeless are rancorous and bitter old hypocrites
> whose only joy in life stems from endless and ridiculous internet
> argument. I couldn't give a damn if they lost their homes, careers or
> families as a result of their pathetic online behaviour, and nor do I
> give a damn about what you think about my stance. My only reaction to
> the whole thing is one of utter boredom. That's why I'm far happier
> engaging in banter with other UMTMers, the UMTMers who stick to the
> issues under discussion and don't immediately launch a vitrilioc and
> unceasing offensive against anyone who doesn't agree with them.

Ah, but you *do* give a damn about I think.
That's why you keep on arguing with me your off-line activities
and no doubt will again in the future.

*Utter boredom*
Are you having a laugh??
Starting a thread where they have triumphantly listed statistics
about the posting habits of said people doesn't strike me as
someone who is utterly bored with whole thing....

> Hopefully this has clarified things for you.- Hide quoted text -

Indeed it *has*....

Col

On 4 Jul, 08:12, Mike Plowman  wrote:

"Please don't poke fun at my empty life which has been dedicated to
Coronaton Street. I've been posting messages on usenet for twenty
years now and that must count for something. Sure, I've turned into a
bald, corpulent middle aged bore, and it's true that I have struggled
unsuccessfully to obtain a visa to move to Canada, but that's the
price I am prepared to pay for my dedication. I am not the slightest
bit envious that you have various writing, editing and publishing
projects on the go because I have my Corrie chat site to fall back
upon, and besides, some of my friends quite like my Weatherfield based
puns. Who cares that a couple of your books have been award-nominated
and are highly sought after collector's items? I certainly do - I mean
'don't' - and I will continue to ignore that irritating fact.

You claim to have a novel on the go and to have submitted some scripts
to various production companies. That doesn't bother me in the
slightest either, because I have an exclusive limited edition "Ariel
The Mermaid" crystal ball (erroneously labelled a 'snow globe' by some
fool at Disney) which has accurately predicted that these ventures
will all fail miserably. And even if they don't, I have a box of
matches which says that they may accidentally get burnt. So you see, I
am not in anyway bitter or envious, I am just telling the truth.

UMTM is my very own Rovers Return and you've challenged my position as
a regular of long-standing. I will therefore fight tooth and nail to
maintain control over the stools at the bar. If that involves having
to twist arguments, distort facts and solicit support from fruitcakes,
then so be it. What's more, I reserve the right to post embittered and
obsessive replies to all of your posts and yet still refer to you as
the stalker, because my stalking - erm, I mean 'posting' - is fuelled
by deeply moral and altruistic motives i.e. you make me look stupid
and feel insignificant so I want to drive you out of usenet. And as
for my threat to stick print-outs of UMTM arguments on the lamp-posts
in your street, well, that was clearly just a joke, ha ha ha I'm not
going mad.

Mike Plowman
http://www.csvu.net
("We do not endorse or support the content of the above website, but
off the record, it is rather cheesy and something of an embarrassment
to us" - ITV)

PS. Although I may have found your posts witty and intelligent before
we fell out, I was actually lying, although that doesn't necessarily
make me a liar now."

Erm....whatever you say, Mr Plowman. But I would recommend making an
appointment to see a psychiatrist...and possibly a career's
advisor....oh, and it wouldn't be a bad idea to get a whole new life
because the one you have doesn't seem to be working out too well, does
it?

On 4 Jul, 07:48, Mike Plowman  wrote:
> On Thu, 3 Jul 2008 11:14:09 -0700 (PDT), Col
>
>
>
>
>
>  wrote:
> >On 3 Jul, 16:43, Saviour Machine  wrote:
>
> >> NB. Messrs Col and Mickey Adams are ventriloquist trolls wearing
> >> disguises so would skew the figures. Alan "The Gimp" Hope's absence is
> >> attributable to his finding love in other usenet newsgroups. Osc and
> >> Viv are just plain stupid.
>
> >And just what the hell is *that* supposed to mean?
> >It was only the other week that you considered me a
> >'neutral' in all this, now I'm a troll with someone's hand
> >up my arse, I don't know what's changed.
> >You know, I always tried to be fair by you, I really have.
> >Yes, I've strongly critisised your off-line activities yet
> >I havent indulged in the outright abuse others have given
> >you and responded 'normally' to many of your posts.
> >And yet you call me a troll.
>
> >Well you know what Barker, you can go and *fuck* yourself.
>
> >Col
>
> LOL, Nice one Col.
> <Axl>
> Welcome to the jungle
> </Acl>- Hide quoted text -
>

Thanks, but I'm not intending on becoming a fully paid up
member of the malcontents club quite yet!
I don't think I'd be much good at it to be honest.

Creepy ponce!
Benefits stalker!

Dammit, that's not right, is it?

Col

On 3 Jul, 23:38, Sofa - Spud  wrote:


> Thats it barker - burn the bridges with one of the few that will
> actually give you the time of day. What a buffoon you are.- Hide quoted text -
>

Quite.
As for as 'normal' discourse goes, I've washed my hands of him.

Col

In article <16a34bef-1da6-49e1-8a5a-fd81661ab56b@
27g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>, hauntedriver@hotmail.com says...
> On 4 Jul, 08:12, Mike Plowman  wrote:
> 
> "Please don't poke fun at my empty life which has been dedicated to
> Coronaton Street. I've been posting messages on usenet for twenty
> years now and that must count for something. Sure, I've turned into a
> bald, corpulent middle aged bore, and it's true that I have struggled

Whoa, that's much too long, stalker boy. It's evident from those poorly 
constructed and faux-humorous first few lines just how the whole is 
going to pan out, so I expect most people will cut to the chase of 
abusing you as obviously required...

You really are quite the pathetic wank stain aren't you, conehead? Why 
not get off your bony old arse and try working for a living?

--
viv

On Fri, 4 Jul 2008 02:42:23 -0700 (PDT), Saviour Machine
 wrote:


----------- Satire free rubbish snipped-------------
>Erm....whatever you say, Mr Plowman. But I would recommend making an
>appointment to see a psychiatrist...and possibly a career's
>advisor....oh, and it wouldn't be a bad idea to get a whole new life
>because the one you have doesn't seem to be working out too well, does
>it?

I do seem to posses a spectacular ability to get right under your skin
don't I Jacobim? 

Still, always a telling sign when you start yet another thread about
me. 

Unfortunately for you, I'll continue to post here as and when I want,
join in the general banter, have a bit of a laugh, the odd argument,
trade the odd insult, all done in the true spirit of Usenet. No
stalking into real life, no writing to employers, no writing to MPs,
no foaming at the mouth.

On Fri, 4 Jul 2008 02:44:19 -0700 (PDT), Col
 wrote:

>Thanks, but I'm not intending on becoming a fully paid up
>member of the malcontents club quite yet!
>I don't think I'd be much good at it to be honest.
>
>Creepy ponce!
>Benefits stalker!
>
>Dammit, that's not right, is it?
>

Close. Mr Spud will be along to give you some tuition later I dare
say. :-)

On 4 Jul, 10:42, Col  wrote:

>
> *Utter boredom*
> Are you having a laugh??
> Starting a thread where they have triumphantly listed statistics
> about the posting habits of said people doesn't strike me as
> someone who is utterly bored with whole thing....

Erm....yes, I am. I made them up, you see.

SM

Saviour Machine wrote:
> On 4 Jul, 08:12, Mike Plowman  wrote:
>
> "Please don't poke fun at my empty life which has been dedicated to
> Coronaton Street. I've been pos...


TL:DR


-- 
Enzo

I wear the cheese. It does not wear me.

On Fri, 4 Jul 2008 03:40:13 -0700 (PDT), Saviour Machine
 wrote:

>On 4 Jul, 10:42, Col  wrote:
>
>>
>> *Utter boredom*
>> Are you having a laugh??
>> Starting a thread where they have triumphantly listed statistics
>> about the posting habits of said people doesn't strike me as
>> someone who is utterly bored with whole thing....
>
>Erm....yes, I am. I made them up, you see.
>
>SM

In other words, you lied to get attention Jacobim.

Saviour Machine wrote:
> On 4 Jul, 08:12, Mike Plowman  wrote:
>
> "Please don't poke fun at my empty life which has been dedicated to
> Coronaton Street. I've been posting messages on usenet for twenty
> years now and that must count for something. Sure, I've turned into a
> bald, corpulent middle aged bore <snipped> a road of old lubbish:)

Mike isn't boring and bald is cool:)))  Loads of the great testosterone you 
know:))

Oh, sorry I forgot, you have lots of hair:)

"Ophelia" <Opheilia@nix,co.uk> wrote in message 
news:6d6iqvF13tm2U2@mid.individual.net...
> Saviour Machine wrote:
>> On 4 Jul, 08:12, Mike Plowman  wrote:
>>
>> "Please don't poke fun at my empty life which has been dedicated to
>> Coronaton Street. I've been posting messages on usenet for twenty
>> years now and that must count for something. Sure, I've turned into a
>> bald, corpulent middle aged bore <snipped> a road of old lubbish:)
>
> Mike isn't boring and bald is cool:)))  Loads of the great testosterone 
> you know:))
>
> Oh, sorry I forgot, you have lots of hair:)

Just not on his head.
-- 
Col

Steal a spaceship and head for the sun,
Shoot the stars with a lemonade ray gun.

Col wrote:
> On 4 Jul, 07:48, Mike Plowman  wrote:
>> On Thu, 3 Jul 2008 11:14:09 -0700 (PDT), Col
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>  wrote:
>>> On 3 Jul, 16:43, Saviour Machine  wrote:
>>>> NB. Messrs Col and Mickey Adams are ventriloquist trolls wearing
>>>> disguises so would skew the figures. Alan "The Gimp" Hope's absence is
>>>> attributable to his finding love in other usenet newsgroups. Osc and
>>>> Viv are just plain stupid.
>>> And just what the hell is *that* supposed to mean?
>>> It was only the other week that you considered me a
>>> 'neutral' in all this, now I'm a troll with someone's hand
>>> up my arse, I don't know what's changed.
>>> You know, I always tried to be fair by you, I really have.
>>> Yes, I've strongly critisised your off-line activities yet
>>> I havent indulged in the outright abuse others have given
>>> you and responded 'normally' to many of your posts.
>>> And yet you call me a troll.
>>> Well you know what Barker, you can go and *fuck* yourself.
>>> Col
>> LOL, Nice one Col.
>> <Axl>
>> Welcome to the jungle
>> </Acl>- Hide quoted text -
>>
> 
> Thanks, but I'm not intending on becoming a fully paid up
> member of the malcontents club quite yet!
> I don't think I'd be much good at it to be honest.
> 
> Creepy ponce!
> Benefits stalker!
> 
> Dammit, that's not right, is it?
> 
> Col

Not right but they work!!


The thing is no one has to say anything to barker - in his mind it's all 
black and white, you are either all for him or a mortal enemy.

A silly Twat then actually!

Saviour Machine wrote:
> On 4 Jul, 08:12, Mike Plowman  wrote:
> 
> "Please don't poke fun at my empty life 

Satire beam still broken then barker?

Col wrote:
> "Ophelia" <Opheilia@nix,co.uk> wrote in message
> news:6d6iqvF13tm2U2@mid.individual.net...
>> Saviour Machine wrote:
>>> On 4 Jul, 08:12, Mike Plowman  wrote:
>>>
>>> "Please don't poke fun at my empty life which has been dedicated to
>>> Coronaton Street. I've been posting messages on usenet for twenty
>>> years now and that must count for something. Sure, I've turned into
>>> a bald, corpulent middle aged bore <snipped> a road of old lubbish:)
>>
>> Mike isn't boring and bald is cool:)))  Loads of the great
>> testosterone you know:))
>>
>> Oh, sorry I forgot, you have lots of hair:)
>
> Just not on his head.

LOL

Col wrote:
> On 3 Jul, 23:38, Sofa - Spud  wrote:
>
>
>> Thats it barker - burn the bridges with one of the few that will
>> actually give you the time of day. What a buffoon you are.- Hide
>> quoted text -
>>
>
> Quite.
> As for as 'normal' discourse goes, I've washed my hands of him.

You do know, Col that he will now use against you, every kind thing you have 
ever said about him?  I give you CP as an example!

Please don't let him get to you.

On Fri, 04 Jul 2008 08:12:00 +0100, Mike Plowman
 wrote:

>
>And when Reggie's next book comes out, ,,,,,,,we're all going to buy
>it and we're all going to celebrate when it wins an award. 
>

Tsk, shame on your Barker. You didn't see fit to tell everyone that
Reggie had already had a book published by his new publisher with a
print run double the size of his last one? 

Congrats to Reggie who, readers might be interested to note, now has
his own website.

www.blackcatherdral.co.uk

I'm sure anyone visiting it will find it very...erm... evocative... of
something.

On Fri, 04 Jul 2008 14:43:16 +0100, Mike Plowman
 wrote:

>On Fri, 04 Jul 2008 08:12:00 +0100, Mike Plowman
> wrote:
>
>>
>>And when Reggie's next book comes out, ,,,,,,,we're all going to buy
>>it and we're all going to celebrate when it wins an award. 
>>
>
>Tsk, shame on your Barker. You didn't see fit to tell everyone that
>Reggie had already had a book published by his new publisher with a
>print run double the size of his last one? 
>
>Congrats to Reggie who, readers might be interested to note, now has
>his own website.
>
>www.blackcatherdral.co.uk
>
>I'm sure anyone visiting it will find it very...erm... evocative... of
>something.

Sorry, that should be

http://www.blackcathedral.co.uk/

On Jul 4, 10:42 am, Saviour Machine  wrote:
> I am not the slightest
> bit envious that you have various writing, editing and publishing
> projects on the go because I have my Corrie chat site to fall back
> upon, and besides, some of my friends quite like my Weatherfield based
> puns. Who cares that a couple of your books have been award-nominated
> and are highly sought after collector's items? I certainly do - I mean
> 'don't' - and I will continue to ignore that irritating fact.
>
> You claim to have a novel on the go and to have submitted some scripts
> to various production companies.

The smell of desperation in your post could strip paint at fifty
paces. You use an attack on Mike Plowman to flag up, for the umpteenth
time, the fact that you have 'various writing, editing and publishing
projects on the go' and that you have submitted 'some scripts' to
various production companies.

Do you really think that anyone in this group will be impressed by
these endeavours? What in actual fact does it signify? Deep down, I
mean. What does it really tell us about you? Or what do you *want* it
to tell us about you? That you're a talented writer?

Well, while I am no literary critic, and while I have absolutely no
wish to dismiss your stuff out of hand just for the sake of it, I
really must say that what you write *isn't* that good, is it? It's
cliched and it's mediocre, and it bears the stamp of one who tries to
hard to do something at which they will probably never be that good
at. As for editing, well, if your posts are anything to go by, you're
not really that proficient at editing either, are you? I mean, in an
earlier post you used the word 'perogative' when it should have been
'prerogative'; if you can't be arsed to use a spell-checker on a post,
what hope does your editing have? With regard to 'publishing
projects', am I right in presuming that you vanity publish your own
material?

However, it's not your endeavours per se that interest me. What
interests me is why you feel the need to tell us about them ad
nauseam. I'm not being facetious: I really am very interested in what
it is in particular that makes you seek validation with such alacrity.

"Saviour Machine"  wrote in message 
news:0a5171a2-ff9f-4f3d-93ad-7c8622e1f179@x35g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
> On 4 Jul, 10:42, Col  wrote:
>
>>
>> *Utter boredom*
>> Are you having a laugh??
>> Starting a thread where they have triumphantly listed statistics
>> about the posting habits of said people doesn't strike me as
>> someone who is utterly bored with whole thing....
>
> Erm....yes, I am. I made them up, you see.

Quite frankly, I don't believe you but that's by the by.
I think you're obsessive enough about your 'enemies'
to have actually carried out such a statistical survey.

I see you have failed to respond to my request to provide
evidence as to when I confessed to 'winding people up'.
Or did you make that up too?
-- 
Col

Steal a spaceship and head for the sun,
Shoot the stars with a lemonade ray gun.

"Sofa - Spud"  wrote in message 
news:g4l7lb$9ku$2@aioe.org...
> Saviour Machine wrote:
>> On 4 Jul, 08:12, Mike Plowman  wrote:
>>
>> "Please don't poke fun at my empty life
>
> Satire beam still broken then barker?

Was it ever working?
-- 
Col

Steal a spaceship and head for the sun,
Shoot the stars with a lemonade ray gun.

On 4 Jul, 14:24, "Ophelia" <Opheilia@nix,co.uk> wrote:
> Col wrote:
> > On 3 Jul, 23:38, Sofa - Spud  wrote:
>
> >> Thats it barker - burn the bridges with one of the few that will
> >> actually give you the time of day. What a buffoon you are.- Hide
> >> quoted text -
>
> > Quite.
> > As for as 'normal' discourse goes, I've washed my hands of him.
>
> You do know, Col that he will now use against you, every kind thing you have
> ever said about him?  I give you CP as an example!
>
> Please don't let him get to you.

I think I'm made of sterner stuff than that!

Col

On 4 Jul, 15:05, "Col"  wrote:
> "Saviour Machine"  wrote in message
>
> news:0a5171a2-ff9f-4f3d-93ad-7c8622e1f179@x35g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
>
> > On 4 Jul, 10:42, Col  wrote:
>
> >> *Utter boredom*
> >> Are you having a laugh??
> >> Starting a thread where they have triumphantly listed statistics
> >> about the posting habits of said people doesn't strike me as
> >> someone who is utterly bored with whole thing....
>
> > Erm....yes, I am. I made them up, you see.
>
> Quite frankly, I don't believe you but that's by the by.
> I think you're obsessive enough about your 'enemies'
> to have actually carried out such a statistical survey.
>
> I see you have failed to respond to my request to provide
> evidence as to when I confessed to 'winding people up'.
> Or did you make that up too?
> --
> Col
>
> Steal a spaceship and head for the sun,
> Shoot the stars with a lemonade ray gun.

See, you can just as bad and as suspicious as the others.

I did not waste more than twenty seconds inventing those probably
quite reflective statistics up. What's more, if you read the post
again, you'll see that the whole thing was more than a little
Krustovistic.

But hey, don't let me stand in the way of your lurid speculations.
Have a nice weekend nitpicking. I have to supervise a dwarf-throwing
competition.

On Fri, 4 Jul 2008 07:55:31 -0700 (PDT), Saviour Machine
 wrote:


>But hey, don't let me stand in the way of your lurid speculations.
>Have a nice weekend nitpicking. I have to supervise a dwarf-throwing
>competition.

DR:NF

"CP"  wrote in message 
news:3684e9b0-1a8b-4ee4-8c84-296f6c10efef@w7g2000hsa.googlegroups.com...

> As for editing, well, if your posts are anything to go by, you're
> not really that proficient at editing either, are you? I mean, in an
> earlier post you used the word 'perogative' when it should have been
> 'prerogative'; if you can't be arsed to use a spell-checker on a post,
> what hope does your editing have?

As a published journalist, I have to say I find Barker's writing laughably 
amateurish and his editing skills non-existent. A good sub would hack out 
two-thirds of his verbose scribblings before spiking it!

Ian

Col wrote:
> On 4 Jul, 14:24, "Ophelia" <Opheilia@nix,co.uk> wrote:
>> Col wrote:
>>> On 3 Jul, 23:38, Sofa - Spud  wrote:
>>
>>>> Thats it barker - burn the bridges with one of the few that will
>>>> actually give you the time of day. What a buffoon you are.- Hide
>>>> quoted text -
>>
>>> Quite.
>>> As for as 'normal' discourse goes, I've washed my hands of him.
>>
>> You do know, Col that he will now use against you, every kind thing
>> you have ever said about him? I give you CP as an example!
>>
>> Please don't let him get to you.
>
> I think I'm made of sterner stuff than that!
>
> Col

Good lad:)

On Fri, 4 Jul 2008 02:42:23 -0700 (PDT), Saviour Machine
 wrote:

"I am not the slightest bit envious that you have various writing,
editing and publishing projects on the go"

"You claim to have a novel on the go and to have submitted some
scripts to various production companies."


Here's an idea.  Why don't you STFU and get back to us if these
various writing/editing/publishing projects ever actually amount to
anything.  I mean, it's hardly a boast worth taking seriously is it?
Projects on the go?  Big deal.  Anyone with a pencil and a scrap of
paper can have a writing project "on the go".  The same goes for your
submission of scripts.  Anyone can submit a script.  Let us know if
you actually get one accepted, eh?

Your pathetic attack on Mike Plowman is one of the worst cases of
reflection I've ever seen on usenet.  Life hasn't really worked out
the way you'd hoped, has it?  Spending the foreseeable future looking
after two disabled kids wasn't how you pictured your life turning out
I'm sure.  A far cry from a career as a lauded novelist or
screenwriter.  It's understandable that you're bitter about it, but if
you could spare us the projection of that bitterness onto other
posters, I'm sure we'd all be very grateful.

On Fri, 04 Jul 2008 14:45:08 +0100, Mike Plowman
 wrote:

>On Fri, 04 Jul 2008 14:43:16 +0100, Mike Plowman
> wrote:
>
>>On Fri, 04 Jul 2008 08:12:00 +0100, Mike Plowman
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>And when Reggie's next book comes out, ,,,,,,,we're all going to buy
>>>it and we're all going to celebrate when it wins an award. 
>>>
>>
>>Tsk, shame on your Barker. You didn't see fit to tell everyone that
>>Reggie had already had a book published by his new publisher with a
>>print run double the size of his last one? 
>>
>>Congrats to Reggie who, readers might be interested to note, now has
>>his own website.
>>
>>www.blackcatherdral.co.uk
>>
>>I'm sure anyone visiting it will find it very...erm... evocative... of
>>something.
>
>Sorry, that should be
>
>http://www.blackcathedral.co.uk/

Argh!  My eyes, my eyes!!! :)

On 4 Jul, 15:55, Saviour Machine  wrote:
> On 4 Jul, 15:05, "Col"  wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > "Saviour Machine"  wrote in message
>
> >news:0a5171a2-ff9f-4f3d-93ad-7c8622e1f179@x35g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
>
> > > On 4 Jul, 10:42, Col  wrote:
>
> > >> *Utter boredom*
> > >> Are you having a laugh??
> > >> Starting a thread where they have triumphantly listed statistics
> > >> about the posting habits of said people doesn't strike me as
> > >> someone who is utterly bored with whole thing....
>
> > > Erm....yes, I am. I made them up, you see.
>
> > Quite frankly, I don't believe you but that's by the by.
> > I think you're obsessive enough about your 'enemies'
> > to have actually carried out such a statistical survey.
>
> > I see you have failed to respond to my request to provide
> > evidence as to when I confessed to 'winding people up'.
> > Or did you make that up too?
> > --
> > Col
>
> > Steal a spaceship and head for the sun,
> > Shoot the stars with a lemonade ray gun.
>
> See, you can just as bad and as suspicious as the others.
>
> I did not waste more than twenty seconds inventing those probably
> quite reflective statistics up. What's more, if you read the post
> again, you'll see that the whole thing was more than a little
> Krustovistic.

It doesn't even matter to be honest whether you made up the
stats or not. The main point is that you started a new thread
about the posting statistics (real or otherwise) of people you
later claimed you were bored of.
If you are bored of them then why start a thread about them??
Can you really not see the inconcistency in that?

> But hey, don't let me stand in the way of your lurid speculations.
> Have a nice weekend nitpicking. I have to supervise a dwarf-throwing
> competition.- Hide quoted text -

Is this a flounce?
Wrong time of the week for that.....

Col

"Mike Plowman"  wrote in message 
news:6oes64hj2db0nmbp1c35f81lc3k35gd0qn@4ax.com...

> DR:NF

I've tried Googling to see what that means but all I get is a load of 
doctors with the initials NF! Care to enlighten me?

Ian

"viv"  wrote

> Whoa, that's much too long, stalker boy.

Spooky, isn't it?

If the first two or three sentences don't grab your attention,
you just have to bin the rest.

Vogon poetry, I calls it.

Regards
rosie.

On 5 Jul, 22:47, "rosie"  wrote:
> "viv"  wrote
>
> > Whoa, that's much too long, stalker boy.
>
> Spooky, isn't it?
>
> If the first two or three sentences don't grab your attention,
> you just have to bin the rest.
>
> Vogon poetry, I calls it.
>
> Regards
> rosie.

Perhaps that's because you don't have the wit to create your own
ideas?

Bearing in mind you claim to dislike me too, I am rather surprised to
see you fishing around for ways to incite conflict between us, as per
the above Douglas Adams reference.

"Saviour Machine"  wrote

> On 5 Jul, 22:47, "rosie"  wrote:

>> Vogon poetry, I calls it.

> Perhaps that's because you don't have the wit to create your own
> ideas?

What an unobservant barmpot you are.
I wasn't trying to create an idea. I was referencing a vogon poem
by Douglas Adams. I was demonstrating my excellent memory
for poetry, Vogon and otherwise.

Your oft repeated 'dribbling'  jokes, combined with your
relentlessly tedious writing style reminded me of the third most
boring poem in the history of man.(According to DA)
You really incensed me, you know, with your insensitivity
to those of us who have mentally handicapped kids
who dribble.

"Oh blobit of dribble
Oozing from the upturned corner of my mouth
You look to me,
Like you should be,
The thing that dropeth from the cloud
A tiny bit of thee is stuck upon my lip
A little more is stuck up my nose
Some has adhered to my hip
My eyes are open and glassy
My snot is thick and green
And from my ears,
Something obscene appears,
And I think it might be me"

"rosie"  wrote

> "Oh blobit of dribble
> Oozing from the upturned corner of my mouth
> You look to me,
> Like you should be,
> The thing that dropeth from the cloud
> A tiny bit of thee is stuck upon my lip
> A little more is stuck up my nose
> Some has adhered to my hip
> My eyes are open and glassy
> My snot is thick and green
> And from my ears,
> Something obscene appears,
> And I think it might be me"

I actually met Douglas Adams 15 years ago at a Cambridge Summer Ball.
I don't think he would believe,  for one cotton picking minute, that that 
there
would ever be a human being walking the earth who could be so remarkably
alike to his made up vogon character.

I think he'd be elated.  He'd LOVE it!!

rosie wrote:
> "rosie"  wrote
>
>> "Oh blobit of dribble
>> Oozing from the upturned corner of my mouth
>> You look to me,
>> Like you should be,
>> The thing that dropeth from the cloud
>> A tiny bit of thee is stuck upon my lip
>> A little more is stuck up my nose
>> Some has adhered to my hip
>> My eyes are open and glassy
>> My snot is thick and green
>> And from my ears,
>> Something obscene appears,
>> And I think it might be me"
>
> I actually met Douglas Adams 15 years ago at a Cambridge Summer Ball.
> I don't think he would believe,  for one cotton picking minute, that
> that there
> would ever be a human being walking the earth who could be so
> remarkably alike to his made up vogon character.
>
> I think he'd be elated.  He'd LOVE it!!

ROFL  :-D

-- 
Enzo

I wear the cheese. It does not wear me.

Saviour Machine wrote:
> On 5 Jul, 22:47, "rosie"  wrote:
>> "viv"  wrote
>>
>>> Whoa, that's much too long, stalker boy.
>> Spooky, isn't it?
>>
>> If the first two or three sentences don't grab your attention,
>> you just have to bin the rest.
>>
>> Vogon poetry, I calls it.
>>
>> Regards
>> rosie.
> 
> Perhaps that's because you don't have the wit to create your own
> ideas?
> 
> Bearing in mind you claim to dislike me too, I am rather surprised to
> see you fishing around for ways to incite conflict between us, as per
> the above Douglas Adams reference.
> 
> 
You really don't like Mike Plowman and Me - yet you make WHOLE new 
threads about us. Hypocritical or what?

Sofa - Spud wrote:
> Saviour Machine wrote:
>> On 5 Jul, 22:47, "rosie"  wrote:
>>> "viv"  wrote
>>>
>>>> Whoa, that's much too long, stalker boy.
>>> Spooky, isn't it?
>>>
>>> If the first two or three sentences don't grab your attention,
>>> you just have to bin the rest.
>>>
>>> Vogon poetry, I calls it.
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> rosie.
>>
>> Perhaps that's because you don't have the wit to create your own
>> ideas?
>>
>> Bearing in mind you claim to dislike me too, I am rather surprised to
>> see you fishing around for ways to incite conflict between us, as per
>> the above Douglas Adams reference.
>>
>>
> You really don't like Mike Plowman and Me - yet you make WHOLE new
> threads about us. Hypocritical or what?

He luuuuuurves you!  :-)



But seriously....  You and Mike must really matter to him, otherwise he 
wouldn't be constantly baiting you.

He luuuuuurves you!  <eg>


-- 
Enzo

I wear the cheese. It does not wear me.

On 6 Jul, 21:05, "rosie"  wrote:
> "rosie"  wrote
>
> > "Oh blobit of dribble
> > Oozing from the upturned corner of my mouth
> > You look to me,
> > Like you should be,
> > The thing that dropeth from the cloud
> > A tiny bit of thee is stuck upon my lip
> > A little more is stuck up my nose
> > Some has adhered to my hip
> > My eyes are open and glassy
> > My snot is thick and green
> > And from my ears,
> > Something obscene appears,
> > And I think it might be me"
>
> I actually met Douglas Adams 15 years ago at a Cambridge Summer Ball.
> I don't think he would believe,  for one cotton picking minute, that that
> there
> would ever be a human being walking the earth who could be so remarkably
> alike to his made up vogon character.
>
> I think he'd be elated.  He'd LOVE it!!

Yes....except for the fact that he's dead.

Close friend, were you?

On 6 Jul, 22:41, "Enzo Matrix"  wrote:
> Sofa - Spud wrote:
> > Saviour Machine wrote:
> >> On 5 Jul, 22:47, "rosie"  wrote:
> >>> "viv"  wrote
>
> >>>> Whoa, that's much too long, stalker boy.
> >>> Spooky, isn't it?
>
> >>> If the first two or three sentences don't grab your attention,
> >>> you just have to bin the rest.
>
> >>> Vogon poetry, I calls it.
>
> >>> Regards
> >>> rosie.
>
> >> Perhaps that's because you don't have the wit to create your own
> >> ideas?
>
> >> Bearing in mind you claim to dislike me too, I am rather surprised to
> >> see you fishing around for ways to incite conflict between us, as per
> >> the above Douglas Adams reference.
>
> > You really don't like Mike Plowman and Me - yet you make WHOLE new
> > threads about us. Hypocritical or what?
>
> He luuuuuurves you!  :-)
>
> But seriously....  You and Mike must really matter to him, otherwise he
> wouldn't be constantly baiting you.
>
> He luuuuuurves you!  <eg>
>
> --
> Enzo
>
> I wear the cheese. It does not wear me.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

You're blind as well as stupid.

If you took your blinkers off for one moment to scan the archives
you'll quickly see who constantly baits who. The ratio is about ten to
one i.e. for every post I make in response to their pathetic bleats
for attention, they post ten of their own.

On 6 Jul, 20:42, "rosie"  wrote:
> "Saviour Machine"  wrote
>
> > On 5 Jul, 22:47, "rosie"  wrote:
> >> Vogon poetry, I calls it.
> > Perhaps that's because you don't have the wit to create your own
> > ideas?
>
> What an unobservant barmpot you are.
> I wasn't trying to create an idea. I was referencing a vogon poem
> by Douglas Adams. I was demonstrating my excellent memory
> for poetry, Vogon and otherwise.
>
> Your oft repeated 'dribbling'  jokes, combined with your
> relentlessly tedious writing style reminded me of the third most
> boring poem in the history of man.(According to DA)
> You really incensed me, you know, with your insensitivity
> to those of us who have mentally handicapped kids
> who dribble.
>
> "Oh blobit of dribble
> Oozing from the upturned corner of my mouth
> You look to me,
> Like you should be,
> The thing that dropeth from the cloud
> A tiny bit of thee is stuck upon my lip
> A little more is stuck up my nose
> Some has adhered to my hip
> My eyes are open and glassy
> My snot is thick and green
> And from my ears,
> Something obscene appears,
> And I think it might be me"

I've noticed you like threatening people. In my case it started with a
threat to talk about me to a charity to which I contribute (you backed
down when I threatened to call your bluff by talking to them about
you); then you threatened me by referring to your "six foot four" tall
husband, implying he could easly sort me out  (you dropped this when I
told you that's how tall I am); and then you threatened me with his
working in the legal profession, implying that I had slandered you (I
haven't).

It doesn't take a psychiatrist to spot that either you are hopelesly
insecure or just an old-fashioned bully. But whatever the truth, the
fact remains that you said some rather dismissive and offensive things
about autism.

You are one of those braggart carers that my wife and I occasionally
come across who think they know everything, and that no one has
suffered as badly as they have, etc etc, ad nausuem. You are also a
bully. First you started off saying I probably didn't have any
children with special needs; then you claimed they probably "only" had
something like dyslexia; then you claimed that autism was a trivial
condition. Well, you were clearly talking out of your derriere on
every issue, weren't you?

Now you're threatening me with Vogon poetry because you haven't the
wit to create your own as part of some hypocritical stalking campaign.
Pathetic behaviour, but then again, entirely to be expected. Besides,
you've got to take out your self-centred frustrations on someone I
guess, and I would rather it was me than your poor daughter.

PS. I note that you were curiously AWOL when Michael Adams made
another one of his "dribbling retard" comments recently. You certainly
do appear to have remarkably flexible principles on this issue.

On Jul 6, 10:54 pm, Saviour Machine  wrote:

> Now you're threatening me with Vogon poetry because you haven't the
> wit to create your own as part of some hypocritical stalking campaign.

I would imagine that you are the only person in the world who has ever
claimed to have been threatened with poetry. Furthermore, how is
responding to your posts *stalking*?

"Saviour Machine"  wrote

On 6 Jul, 21:05, "rosie"  wrote:

>> I actually met Douglas Adams 15 years ago at a Cambridge Summer Ball.
>> I don't think he would believe, for one cotton picking minute, that that
>> there
>> would ever be a human being walking the earth who could be so remarkably
>> alike to his made up vogon character.
>
>> I think he'd be elated. He'd LOVE it!!

>Yes....except for the fact that he's dead.

To anybody with an ounce of reading comprehension,
that was implicit in my post.

He'd be elated. He'd LOVE it!!  (Were he alive)

Are you really this stupid?

>Close friend, were you?

No. I never said I was. I said I'd met him 15 years ago.
When he was still alive, if that makes it any clearer for you.

On Sun, 06 Jul 2008 15:25:41 -0700, CP wrote:

> On Jul 6, 10:54 pm, Saviour Machine  wrote:
> 
>> Now you're threatening me with Vogon poetry because you haven't the wit
>> to create your own as part of some hypocritical stalking campaign.
> 
> I would imagine that you are the only person in the world who has ever
> claimed to have been threatened with poetry. Furthermore, how is
> responding to your posts *stalking*?

Other fantasy things that Barker has been threatened with:

Light Sabres

Phasers

Thundercats

Herbie the Lovebug

King Kong

Hartley Hare

Those flying monkeys in the Wizard of Oz - although to be fair, they are 
actually quite scary.

"Saviour Machine"  wrote

>I've noticed you like threatening people. In my case it started with a
>threat to talk about me to a charity to which I contribute (you backed
>down when I threatened to call your bluff by talking to them about
>you); then you threatened me by referring to your "six foot four" tall
>husband, implying he could easly sort me out  (you dropped this when I
>old you that's how tall I am);

To be brutally  honest, I don't remember you telling anybody that you're
six feet four. I didn't get that far.Reading your posts is like
wading through toffee. Your writing style is dull and laborious.
Unreadable.

And your reading comprehension is no better.
Of course I know that Douglas Adams has passed away.
And you knew that I knew. You are just nasty.

"CP"  wrote


> I would imagine that you are the only person in the world who has ever
> claimed to have been threatened with poetry. Furthermore, how is
> responding to your posts *stalking*?

This man started a thread with my name in it a couple of
weeks ago, to which I did not respond.

I didn't post at all for 11 or 12 days.

Then, when I did, it took him all of 42 minutes to
jump on my case.

How do you keep an idiot in suspense?

Answers on a postcard.

Saviour Machine wrote:
> On 6 Jul, 22:41, "Enzo Matrix"  wrote:
>> Sofa - Spud wrote:
>>> Saviour Machine wrote:
>>>> On 5 Jul, 22:47, "rosie"  wrote:
>>>>> "viv"  wrote
>>
>>>>>> Whoa, that's much too long, stalker boy.
>>>>> Spooky, isn't it?
>>
>>>>> If the first two or three sentences don't grab your attention,
>>>>> you just have to bin the rest.
>>
>>>>> Vogon poetry, I calls it.
>>
>>>>> Regards
>>>>> rosie.
>>
>>>> Perhaps that's because you don't have the wit to create your own
>>>> ideas?
>>
>>>> Bearing in mind you claim to dislike me too, I am rather surprised to
>>>> see you fishing around for ways to incite conflict between us, as per
>>>> the above Douglas Adams reference.
>>
>>> You really don't like Mike Plowman and Me - yet you make WHOLE new
>>> threads about us. Hypocritical or what?
>>
>> He luuuuuurves you! :-)
>>
>> But seriously.... You and Mike must really matter to him, otherwise he
>> wouldn't be constantly baiting you.
>>
>> He luuuuuurves you! <eg>
>>
>> --
>> Enzo
>>
>> I wear the cheese. It does not wear me.- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
> You're blind as well as stupid.
>
> If you took your blinkers off for one moment to scan the archives
> you'll quickly see who constantly baits who. The ratio is about ten to
> one i.e. for every post I make in response to their pathetic bleats
> for attention, they post ten of their own.

And yet, who started this thread (and several other similar threads) again? 
Oh, wait, it was you!
-- 
Mary Sue (mamie007)
Ottawa

Saviour Machine wrote:
> On 6 Jul, 20:42, "rosie"  wrote:
>> "Saviour Machine"  wrote
>>
>>> On 5 Jul, 22:47, "rosie"  wrote:
>>>> Vogon poetry, I calls it.
>>> Perhaps that's because you don't have the wit to create your own
>>> ideas?
>> What an unobservant barmpot you are.
>> I wasn't trying to create an idea. I was referencing a vogon poem
>> by Douglas Adams. I was demonstrating my excellent memory
>> for poetry, Vogon and otherwise.
>>
>> Your oft repeated 'dribbling'  jokes, combined with your
>> relentlessly tedious writing style reminded me of the third most
>> boring poem in the history of man.(According to DA)
>> You really incensed me, you know, with your insensitivity
>> to those of us who have mentally handicapped kids
>> who dribble.
>>
>> "Oh blobit of dribble
>> Oozing from the upturned corner of my mouth
>> You look to me,
>> Like you should be,
>> The thing that dropeth from the cloud
>> A tiny bit of thee is stuck upon my lip
>> A little more is stuck up my nose
>> Some has adhered to my hip
>> My eyes are open and glassy
>> My snot is thick and green
>> And from my ears,
>> Something obscene appears,
>> And I think it might be me"
> 
> I've noticed you like threatening people. 


How is rosie threatening anyone? Does she write to third parites or 
employers or threaten legal action to take houses and buisnesses ?

(Links available)

In my case it started with a
> threat to talk about me to a charity to which I contribute (you backed
> down when I threatened to call your bluff by talking to them about
> you)


Well thats a 180' twist on what actually happened barmy.



; then you threatened me by referring to your "six foot four" tall
> husband, implying he could easly sort me out  (you dropped this when I
> told you that's how tall I am)


More bullshit barker, you were blathering about what you could do , 
making trouble etc and people quite rightly pointed out that rosie 
hadn't better give out any address details or you might go round. You 
have a past history of asking for addresses so you can go round and 
*sort people out*. Rosie pointed out she wasn't worried as she has a big 
husband. Your supposed size didn't come into it.

This people will remeber form barker who had a man *glare at him 
menecingly over the hedge* what a pathetic wuss. If you are *so* big 
barker why didn't you have a word with him rather than coming here 
whining about it?

(Links available)

; and then you threatened me with his
> working in the legal profession, implying that I had slandered you (I
> haven't).
> 
> It doesn't take a psychiatrist to spot that either you are hopelesly
> insecure or just an old-fashioned bully.

Projecting again barker - only one insecure bully here and thats you, 
how many have left this group because of you? How many people have you 
harrased into real life?


  But whatever the truth, the
> fact remains that you said some rather dismissive and offensive things
> about autism.
> 

She said nothing of the sort - if anyone has over egged how bad your 
trophy cash cow kids are it's you. Making out you are *caring* all day 
then slipping up about them going to school for the day .

> You are one of those braggart carers that my wife and I occasionally
> come across who think they know everything, and that no one has
> suffered as badly as they have, etc etc, ad nausuem.


The only braggart carer anyone here has come across is YOU barker. 
You've used it as a trump card here for years.

  You are also a
> bully.

Still projecting barker - rosie really has you by the neck doesn't she!

  First you started off saying I probably didn't have any
> children with special needs; then you claimed they probably "only" had
> something like dyslexia; then you claimed that autism was a trivial
> condition. Well, you were clearly talking out of your derriere on
> every issue, weren't you?

Well it appears even you can't decide whether they are at home with you 
or at school.

> 
> Now you're threatening me with Vogon poetry because you haven't the
> wit to create your own as part of some hypocritical stalking campaign.

How is replying to your pathetic screeds stalking? please explain on 
here HOW this is stalking?

> Pathetic behaviour, but then again, entirely to be expected. Besides,
> you've got to take out your self-centred frustrations on someone I
> guess, and I would rather it was me than your poor daughter.

Oh real nice barker - equating posting on usenet with abuse of the woman 
daughter . You really are a piece of crap aren't you?

> 
> PS. I note that you were curiously AWOL when Michael Adams made
> another one of his "dribbling retard" comments recently. You certainly
> do appear to have remarkably flexible principles on this issue.
> 

But at what time has Michael Adams made such a song and dance about 
siuch things? You've made a career on here whining about such things 
then go and use them yourself. Don't get mardy when someone points out 
your hypocrisy.