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date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 00:02:34 +0100,    group: uk.media.tv.buffy-v-slayer        back       
An opportunity to object to Digital On-Screen Graphic logos (DOGs)   
You may like to join the online petition against these intrusive channel 
identifiers by clicking on:

http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/tv-channel-dogs/
date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 00:02:34 +0100   author:   Matti Lamprhey

Re: An opportunity to object to Digital On-Screen Graphic logos (DOGs)   
Matti Lamprhey wrote:
> You may like to join the online petition against these intrusive
> channel identifiers by clicking on:
>
> http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/tv-channel-dogs/

I got a program which removes them :o)
Only works with .avi downloads though :o(

(kim)
date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 02:05:46 +0100   author:   kim

Re: An opportunity to object to Digital On-Screen Graphic logos (DOGs)   
An infinite number of primates hammered away at an infinite number of 
typewriters. kim  said:
>Matti Lamprhey wrote:
>> You may like to join the online petition against these intrusive
>> channel identifiers by clicking on:
>>
>> http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/tv-channel-dogs/
>
>I got a program which removes them :o)
>Only works with .avi downloads though :o(

When you say "removes them" I assume you mean "replaces them with an 
ever-changing and arguably even more distracting fuzzy area"

-- 
The more I see of my dickhead half brother...
...the more I think Cain was onto somthing!

Will Tingle
Remove YOUR.PANTS to e-mail
date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 12:23:29 GMT   author:   Will Tingle

Re: An opportunity to object to Digital On-Screen Graphic logos (DOGs)   
Will Tingle wrote:
> An infinite number of primates hammered away at an infinite number of
> typewriters. kim  said:
>> Matti Lamprhey wrote:
>>> You may like to join the online petition against these intrusive
>>> channel identifiers by clicking on:
>>>
>>> http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/tv-channel-dogs/
>>
>> I got a program which removes them :o)
>> Only works with .avi downloads though :o(
>
> When you say "removes them" I assume you mean "replaces them with an
> ever-changing and arguably even more distracting fuzzy area"

It depends which program you use. The DeLogo filter for VirtualDub when used 
properly is much more sophisticated than that. It removed both logos from 
Secret Diary of a Call Girl leaving just a feint green shadow in some dark 
scenes where the ITV 2 logo used to be.

Before: http://www.imagehosting.com/show.php/1285341_vlcsnap127645.png.html

After: http://www.imagehosting.com/show.php/1285614_vlcsnap127167.png.html

This was a first attempt using the fastest, simplest option available. An 
expert can produce much better results.

(kim)
date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 19:03:28 +0100   author:   kim

Re: An opportunity to object to Digital On-Screen Graphic logos (DOGs)   
An infinite number of primates hammered away at an infinite number of 
typewriters. kim  said:
>It depends which program you use. The DeLogo filter for VirtualDub when used
>properly is much more sophisticated than that. It removed both logos from
>Secret Diary of a Call Girl leaving just a feint green shadow in some dark
>scenes where the ITV 2 logo used to be.
>
>Before: http://www.imagehosting.com/show.php/1285341_vlcsnap127645.png.html
>
>After: http://www.imagehosting.com/show.php/1285614_vlcsnap127167.png.html
>
>This was a first attempt using the fastest, simplest option available. An
>expert can produce much better results.

on the image supplied, the "green shadow" is on a light area, and 
plainly visible.

Also in my experience, logo-removers (including DeLogo) look fine in 
stills (usually much better than the nigh-on useless example you 
provided), but are shockingly distracting once the picture starts 
moving, as the colours of the "shadow" move and change, as the algorithm 
tries its best to predict what colours should be there.

The problem is that (short of hand colouring each and every frame) there 
is no way to remove a logo satisfactorily, as there is no information 
available on screen as to what colours are missing from underneath the 
DOG.
-- 
The more I see of my dickhead half brother...
...the more I think Cain was onto somthing!

Will Tingle
Remove YOUR.PANTS to e-mail
date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 12:46:10 GMT   author:   Will Tingle

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