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date: Mon, 16 Jul 2007 18:21:22 GMT,    group: uk.media.tv.buffy-v-slayer        back       
Buffy star's joy at Torchwood job   
James Marsters to join "Torchwood":

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/wales/6900670.stm
-- 
John Briggs
date: Mon, 16 Jul 2007 18:21:22 GMT   author:   John Briggs

Re: Buffy star's joy at Torchwood job   
"John Briggs"  wrote in message news:CGOmi.26969$uR5.10246@newsfe7-gui.ntli.net...
> James Marsters to join "Torchwood":
>
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/wales/6900670.stm

Since the plots will already be familiar to him after his
years in BtVS and Angel, perhaps he might find time to
earn a few shillings on the side coaching his co-stars in
the dark arts of television acting.

-- 
John.
date: Tue, 17 Jul 2007 16:50:43 +0100   author:   John L

Re: Buffy star's joy at Torchwood job   
"John Briggs"  wrote in message 
news:CGOmi.26969$uR5.10246@newsfe7-gui.ntli.net...
> James Marsters to join "Torchwood":
>
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/wales/6900670.stm

I have a feeling most of the original cast will be killed off in an 
explosion at the start of the new series.

(kim)
date: Tue, 17 Jul 2007 16:59:09 +0100   author:   kim

Re: Buffy star's joy at Torchwood job   
John L wrote:
> "John Briggs"  wrote in message
> news:CGOmi.26969$uR5.10246@newsfe7-gui.ntli.net...
>> James Marsters to join "Torchwood":
>>
>> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/wales/6900670.stm
>
> Since the plots will already be familiar to him after his
> years in BtVS and Angel, perhaps he might find time to
> earn a few shillings on the side coaching his co-stars in
> the dark arts of television acting.

Or any sort of acting.  Rumour has it that Patrick Stewart gave acting 
masterclasses whilst on Star Trek TNG, and the standard of acting was much 
higher at the end of the series :-)

The acting was certainly patchy on Torchwood, but I still think that script 
development (absence of) was the major problem.  I thought things would 
improve after a rocky start, until I realised that they had put the best 
scripts at the beginning!

I find American acting to be consistent, rather than particularly good or 
inspired.  I think it is a question of having technique rather than ability: 
the girl who played the AprilBot was particularly convincing, and I always 
thought it rather unnerving how good SMG was as the BuffyBot!
-- 
John Briggs
date: Tue, 17 Jul 2007 19:00:29 GMT   author:   John Briggs

Re: Buffy star's joy at Torchwood job   
kim wrote:
> "John Briggs"  wrote in message
> news:CGOmi.26969$uR5.10246@newsfe7-gui.ntli.net...
>> James Marsters to join "Torchwood":
>>
>> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/wales/6900670.stm
>
> I have a feeling most of the original cast will be killed off in an
> explosion at the start of the new series.

Speaking of which, what has happened to this new series?  It was supposed to 
have been recommissioned, with filming in the "spring" - now they are 
talking about showing it in 2008.
-- 
John Briggs
date: Tue, 17 Jul 2007 19:07:28 GMT   author:   John Briggs

Re: Buffy star's joy at Torchwood job   
"John Briggs"  wrote in message 
news:Qr8ni.39432$ri2.31234@newsfe5-win.ntli.net...
> kim wrote:
>> "John Briggs"  wrote in message
>> news:CGOmi.26969$uR5.10246@newsfe7-gui.ntli.net...
>>> James Marsters to join "Torchwood":
>>>
>>> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/wales/6900670.stm
>>
>> I have a feeling most of the original cast will be killed off in an
>> explosion at the start of the new series.
>
> Speaking of which, what has happened to this new series?  It was supposed 
> to have been recommissioned, with filming in the "spring" - now they are 
> talking about showing it in 2008.

It was always scheduled for "early 2008"

Filming is already well under way*

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*The centre of Cardiff was rocked by a giant explosion a couple of weeks 
ago. Although locals had been warned in advance the BBC were filming 
Torchwood, passers-by-by and shoppers thought it was a suicide bomb and ran 
for cover :o)

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/south_east/6258420.stm

Hence my comment about the original cast being killed off to make way for 
the new actors.

(kim)
date: Tue, 17 Jul 2007 22:15:36 +0100   author:   kim

Re: Buffy star's joy at Torchwood job   
kim wrote:
> "John Briggs"  wrote in message
> news:Qr8ni.39432$ri2.31234@newsfe5-win.ntli.net...
>> kim wrote:
>>> "John Briggs"  wrote in message
>>> news:CGOmi.26969$uR5.10246@newsfe7-gui.ntli.net...
>>>> James Marsters to join "Torchwood":
>>>>
>>>> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/wales/6900670.stm
>>>
>>> I have a feeling most of the original cast will be killed off in an
>>> explosion at the start of the new series.
>>
>> Speaking of which, what has happened to this new series?  It was
>> supposed to have been recommissioned, with filming in the "spring" -
>> now they are talking about showing it in 2008.
>
> It was always scheduled for "early 2008"
>
> Filming is already well under way*

Always?

12 December 2006: "Filming for the second series is due to start in Cardiff 
next spring and the programmes will screen later in 2007."
-- 
John Briggs
date: Tue, 17 Jul 2007 22:53:46 GMT   author:   John Briggs

Re: Buffy star's joy at Torchwood job   
In article <469ef168$0$642$bed64819@news.gradwell.net>,
 "John L"  wrote:

> David Boreanaz was brooding and menacing but had
> little range beyond that, and was hardly a good choice to
> lead a spin-off series.

> So far, none of the Buffy alumni have done much else of note.

So Bones isn't about to go into its 3rd season then?
-- 
What does not kill me makes me stronger. Unless it leaves me as a quadriplegic.
date: Sat, 04 Aug 2007 11:38:03 +0100   author:   vague disclaimer

Re: Buffy star's joy at Torchwood job   
"vague disclaimer"  wrote in message 
news:l64o-1rj5-D99D76.11380304082007@europe.isp.giganews.com...
> In article <469ef168$0$642$bed64819@news.gradwell.net>,
> "John L"  wrote:
>
>> David Boreanaz was brooding and menacing but had
>> little range beyond that, and was hardly a good choice to
>> lead a spin-off series.
>
>> So far, none of the Buffy alumni have done much else of note.
>
> So Bones isn't about to go into its 3rd season then?

That doesn't prove it's any good. I quite liked the pilot but there was 
nothing about it that made me want to watch any further episodes.

(kim)
date: Sat, 4 Aug 2007 14:40:02 +0100   author:   kim

Re: Buffy star's joy at Torchwood job   
"kim"  wrote in message 
news:UKidnd33E7aiHCnbnZ2dnUVZ8turnZ2d@giganews.com...
> "vague disclaimer"  wrote in message 
> news:l64o-1rj5-D99D76.11380304082007@europe.isp.giganews.com...
>> In article <469ef168$0$642$bed64819@news.gradwell.net>,
>> "John L"  wrote:
>>
>>> David Boreanaz was brooding and menacing but had
>>> little range beyond that, and was hardly a good choice to
>>> lead a spin-off series.
>>
>>> So far, none of the Buffy alumni have done much else of note.
>>
>> So Bones isn't about to go into its 3rd season then?
>
> That doesn't prove it's any good. I quite liked the pilot but there was 
> nothing about it that made me want to watch any further episodes.
>

I quite like Bones, actually. Not enough to go and buy the box set, but 
enough to set the Sky+ box for it.

Toast.
date: Sat, 4 Aug 2007 19:25:10 +0100   author:   Head of Toast

Re: Buffy star's joy at Torchwood job   
In article ,
kim  wrote:

>> So Bones isn't about to go into its 3rd season then?

>That doesn't prove it's any good. I quite liked the pilot but there was 
>nothing about it that made me want to watch any further episodes.

Pity. It's getting better and better.

And David is a huge part of that.
date: Sun, 5 Aug 2007 14:51:54 +0000 (UTC)   author:   (Marc Espie)

Re: Buffy star's joy at Torchwood job   
"John Briggs"  wrote in message news:CGOmi.26969$uR5.10246@newsfe7-gui.ntli.net...
> James Marsters to join "Torchwood":
>
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/wales/6900670.stm

Since the plots will already be familiar to him after his
years in BtVS and Angel, perhaps he might find time to
earn a few shillings on the side coaching his co-stars in
the dark arts of television acting.

-- 
John.
date: Tue, 17 Jul 2007 16:50:43 +0100   author:   John L

Re: Buffy star's joy at Torchwood job   
"John Briggs"  wrote in message 
news:CGOmi.26969$uR5.10246@newsfe7-gui.ntli.net...
> James Marsters to join "Torchwood":
>
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/wales/6900670.stm

I have a feeling most of the original cast will be killed off in an 
explosion at the start of the new series.

(kim)
date: Tue, 17 Jul 2007 16:59:09 +0100   author:   kim

Re: Buffy star's joy at Torchwood job   
John L wrote:
> "John Briggs"  wrote in message
> news:CGOmi.26969$uR5.10246@newsfe7-gui.ntli.net...
>> James Marsters to join "Torchwood":
>>
>> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/wales/6900670.stm
>
> Since the plots will already be familiar to him after his
> years in BtVS and Angel, perhaps he might find time to
> earn a few shillings on the side coaching his co-stars in
> the dark arts of television acting.

Or any sort of acting.  Rumour has it that Patrick Stewart gave acting 
masterclasses whilst on Star Trek TNG, and the standard of acting was much 
higher at the end of the series :-)

The acting was certainly patchy on Torchwood, but I still think that script 
development (absence of) was the major problem.  I thought things would 
improve after a rocky start, until I realised that they had put the best 
scripts at the beginning!

I find American acting to be consistent, rather than particularly good or 
inspired.  I think it is a question of having technique rather than ability: 
the girl who played the AprilBot was particularly convincing, and I always 
thought it rather unnerving how good SMG was as the BuffyBot!
-- 
John Briggs
date: Tue, 17 Jul 2007 19:00:29 GMT   author:   John Briggs

Re: Buffy star's joy at Torchwood job   
kim wrote:
> "John Briggs"  wrote in message
> news:CGOmi.26969$uR5.10246@newsfe7-gui.ntli.net...
>> James Marsters to join "Torchwood":
>>
>> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/wales/6900670.stm
>
> I have a feeling most of the original cast will be killed off in an
> explosion at the start of the new series.

Speaking of which, what has happened to this new series?  It was supposed to 
have been recommissioned, with filming in the "spring" - now they are 
talking about showing it in 2008.
-- 
John Briggs
date: Tue, 17 Jul 2007 19:07:28 GMT   author:   John Briggs

Re: Buffy star's joy at Torchwood job   
"John Briggs"  wrote in message 
news:Qr8ni.39432$ri2.31234@newsfe5-win.ntli.net...
> kim wrote:
>> "John Briggs"  wrote in message
>> news:CGOmi.26969$uR5.10246@newsfe7-gui.ntli.net...
>>> James Marsters to join "Torchwood":
>>>
>>> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/wales/6900670.stm
>>
>> I have a feeling most of the original cast will be killed off in an
>> explosion at the start of the new series.
>
> Speaking of which, what has happened to this new series?  It was supposed 
> to have been recommissioned, with filming in the "spring" - now they are 
> talking about showing it in 2008.

It was always scheduled for "early 2008"

Filming is already well under way*

[spoiler space]
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*The centre of Cardiff was rocked by a giant explosion a couple of weeks 
ago. Although locals had been warned in advance the BBC were filming 
Torchwood, passers-by-by and shoppers thought it was a suicide bomb and ran 
for cover :o)

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/south_east/6258420.stm

Hence my comment about the original cast being killed off to make way for 
the new actors.

(kim)
date: Tue, 17 Jul 2007 22:15:36 +0100   author:   kim

Re: Buffy star's joy at Torchwood job   
kim wrote:
> "John Briggs"  wrote in message
> news:Qr8ni.39432$ri2.31234@newsfe5-win.ntli.net...
>> kim wrote:
>>> "John Briggs"  wrote in message
>>> news:CGOmi.26969$uR5.10246@newsfe7-gui.ntli.net...
>>>> James Marsters to join "Torchwood":
>>>>
>>>> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/wales/6900670.stm
>>>
>>> I have a feeling most of the original cast will be killed off in an
>>> explosion at the start of the new series.
>>
>> Speaking of which, what has happened to this new series?  It was
>> supposed to have been recommissioned, with filming in the "spring" -
>> now they are talking about showing it in 2008.
>
> It was always scheduled for "early 2008"
>
> Filming is already well under way*

Always?

12 December 2006: "Filming for the second series is due to start in Cardiff 
next spring and the programmes will screen later in 2007."
-- 
John Briggs
date: Tue, 17 Jul 2007 22:53:46 GMT   author:   John Briggs

Re: Buffy star's joy at Torchwood job   
In article <469ef168$0$642$bed64819@news.gradwell.net>,
 "John L"  wrote:

> David Boreanaz was brooding and menacing but had
> little range beyond that, and was hardly a good choice to
> lead a spin-off series.

> So far, none of the Buffy alumni have done much else of note.

So Bones isn't about to go into its 3rd season then?
-- 
What does not kill me makes me stronger. Unless it leaves me as a quadriplegic.
date: Sat, 04 Aug 2007 11:38:03 +0100   author:   vague disclaimer

Re: Buffy star's joy at Torchwood job   
"vague disclaimer"  wrote in message 
news:l64o-1rj5-D99D76.11380304082007@europe.isp.giganews.com...
> In article <469ef168$0$642$bed64819@news.gradwell.net>,
> "John L"  wrote:
>
>> David Boreanaz was brooding and menacing but had
>> little range beyond that, and was hardly a good choice to
>> lead a spin-off series.
>
>> So far, none of the Buffy alumni have done much else of note.
>
> So Bones isn't about to go into its 3rd season then?

That doesn't prove it's any good. I quite liked the pilot but there was 
nothing about it that made me want to watch any further episodes.

(kim)
date: Sat, 4 Aug 2007 14:40:02 +0100   author:   kim

Re: Buffy star's joy at Torchwood job   
"kim"  wrote in message 
news:UKidnd33E7aiHCnbnZ2dnUVZ8turnZ2d@giganews.com...
> "vague disclaimer"  wrote in message 
> news:l64o-1rj5-D99D76.11380304082007@europe.isp.giganews.com...
>> In article <469ef168$0$642$bed64819@news.gradwell.net>,
>> "John L"  wrote:
>>
>>> David Boreanaz was brooding and menacing but had
>>> little range beyond that, and was hardly a good choice to
>>> lead a spin-off series.
>>
>>> So far, none of the Buffy alumni have done much else of note.
>>
>> So Bones isn't about to go into its 3rd season then?
>
> That doesn't prove it's any good. I quite liked the pilot but there was 
> nothing about it that made me want to watch any further episodes.
>

I quite like Bones, actually. Not enough to go and buy the box set, but 
enough to set the Sky+ box for it.

Toast.
date: Sat, 4 Aug 2007 19:25:10 +0100   author:   Head of Toast

Re: Buffy star's joy at Torchwood job   
In article ,
kim  wrote:

>> So Bones isn't about to go into its 3rd season then?

>That doesn't prove it's any good. I quite liked the pilot but there was 
>nothing about it that made me want to watch any further episodes.

Pity. It's getting better and better.

And David is a huge part of that.
date: Sun, 5 Aug 2007 14:51:54 +0000 (UTC)   author:   (Marc Espie)

Re: Buffy star's joy at Torchwood job   
"John Briggs"  wrote in message news:CGOmi.26969$uR5.10246@newsfe7-gui.ntli.net...
> James Marsters to join "Torchwood":
>
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/wales/6900670.stm

Since the plots will already be familiar to him after his
years in BtVS and Angel, perhaps he might find time to
earn a few shillings on the side coaching his co-stars in
the dark arts of television acting.

-- 
John.
date: Tue, 17 Jul 2007 16:50:43 +0100   author:   John L

Re: Buffy star's joy at Torchwood job   
"John Briggs"  wrote in message 
news:CGOmi.26969$uR5.10246@newsfe7-gui.ntli.net...
> James Marsters to join "Torchwood":
>
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/wales/6900670.stm

I have a feeling most of the original cast will be killed off in an 
explosion at the start of the new series.

(kim)
date: Tue, 17 Jul 2007 16:59:09 +0100   author:   kim

Re: Buffy star's joy at Torchwood job   
John L wrote:
> "John Briggs"  wrote in message
> news:CGOmi.26969$uR5.10246@newsfe7-gui.ntli.net...
>> James Marsters to join "Torchwood":
>>
>> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/wales/6900670.stm
>
> Since the plots will already be familiar to him after his
> years in BtVS and Angel, perhaps he might find time to
> earn a few shillings on the side coaching his co-stars in
> the dark arts of television acting.

Or any sort of acting.  Rumour has it that Patrick Stewart gave acting 
masterclasses whilst on Star Trek TNG, and the standard of acting was much 
higher at the end of the series :-)

The acting was certainly patchy on Torchwood, but I still think that script 
development (absence of) was the major problem.  I thought things would 
improve after a rocky start, until I realised that they had put the best 
scripts at the beginning!

I find American acting to be consistent, rather than particularly good or 
inspired.  I think it is a question of having technique rather than ability: 
the girl who played the AprilBot was particularly convincing, and I always 
thought it rather unnerving how good SMG was as the BuffyBot!
-- 
John Briggs
date: Tue, 17 Jul 2007 19:00:29 GMT   author:   John Briggs

Re: Buffy star's joy at Torchwood job   
kim wrote:
> "John Briggs"  wrote in message
> news:CGOmi.26969$uR5.10246@newsfe7-gui.ntli.net...
>> James Marsters to join "Torchwood":
>>
>> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/wales/6900670.stm
>
> I have a feeling most of the original cast will be killed off in an
> explosion at the start of the new series.

Speaking of which, what has happened to this new series?  It was supposed to 
have been recommissioned, with filming in the "spring" - now they are 
talking about showing it in 2008.
-- 
John Briggs
date: Tue, 17 Jul 2007 19:07:28 GMT   author:   John Briggs

Re: Buffy star's joy at Torchwood job   
"John Briggs"  wrote in message 
news:Qr8ni.39432$ri2.31234@newsfe5-win.ntli.net...
> kim wrote:
>> "John Briggs"  wrote in message
>> news:CGOmi.26969$uR5.10246@newsfe7-gui.ntli.net...
>>> James Marsters to join "Torchwood":
>>>
>>> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/wales/6900670.stm
>>
>> I have a feeling most of the original cast will be killed off in an
>> explosion at the start of the new series.
>
> Speaking of which, what has happened to this new series?  It was supposed 
> to have been recommissioned, with filming in the "spring" - now they are 
> talking about showing it in 2008.

It was always scheduled for "early 2008"

Filming is already well under way*

[spoiler space]
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/
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/

*The centre of Cardiff was rocked by a giant explosion a couple of weeks 
ago. Although locals had been warned in advance the BBC were filming 
Torchwood, passers-by-by and shoppers thought it was a suicide bomb and ran 
for cover :o)

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/south_east/6258420.stm

Hence my comment about the original cast being killed off to make way for 
the new actors.

(kim)
date: Tue, 17 Jul 2007 22:15:36 +0100   author:   kim

Re: Buffy star's joy at Torchwood job   
kim wrote:
> "John Briggs"  wrote in message
> news:Qr8ni.39432$ri2.31234@newsfe5-win.ntli.net...
>> kim wrote:
>>> "John Briggs"  wrote in message
>>> news:CGOmi.26969$uR5.10246@newsfe7-gui.ntli.net...
>>>> James Marsters to join "Torchwood":
>>>>
>>>> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/wales/6900670.stm
>>>
>>> I have a feeling most of the original cast will be killed off in an
>>> explosion at the start of the new series.
>>
>> Speaking of which, what has happened to this new series?  It was
>> supposed to have been recommissioned, with filming in the "spring" -
>> now they are talking about showing it in 2008.
>
> It was always scheduled for "early 2008"
>
> Filming is already well under way*

Always?

12 December 2006: "Filming for the second series is due to start in Cardiff 
next spring and the programmes will screen later in 2007."
-- 
John Briggs
date: Tue, 17 Jul 2007 22:53:46 GMT   author:   John Briggs

Re: Buffy star's joy at Torchwood job   
In article <469ef168$0$642$bed64819@news.gradwell.net>,
 "John L"  wrote:

> David Boreanaz was brooding and menacing but had
> little range beyond that, and was hardly a good choice to
> lead a spin-off series.

> So far, none of the Buffy alumni have done much else of note.

So Bones isn't about to go into its 3rd season then?
-- 
What does not kill me makes me stronger. Unless it leaves me as a quadriplegic.
date: Sat, 04 Aug 2007 11:38:03 +0100   author:   vague disclaimer

Re: Buffy star's joy at Torchwood job   
"vague disclaimer"  wrote in message 
news:l64o-1rj5-D99D76.11380304082007@europe.isp.giganews.com...
> In article <469ef168$0$642$bed64819@news.gradwell.net>,
> "John L"  wrote:
>
>> David Boreanaz was brooding and menacing but had
>> little range beyond that, and was hardly a good choice to
>> lead a spin-off series.
>
>> So far, none of the Buffy alumni have done much else of note.
>
> So Bones isn't about to go into its 3rd season then?

That doesn't prove it's any good. I quite liked the pilot but there was 
nothing about it that made me want to watch any further episodes.

(kim)
date: Sat, 4 Aug 2007 14:40:02 +0100   author:   kim

Re: Buffy star's joy at Torchwood job   
"kim"  wrote in message 
news:UKidnd33E7aiHCnbnZ2dnUVZ8turnZ2d@giganews.com...
> "vague disclaimer"  wrote in message 
> news:l64o-1rj5-D99D76.11380304082007@europe.isp.giganews.com...
>> In article <469ef168$0$642$bed64819@news.gradwell.net>,
>> "John L"  wrote:
>>
>>> David Boreanaz was brooding and menacing but had
>>> little range beyond that, and was hardly a good choice to
>>> lead a spin-off series.
>>
>>> So far, none of the Buffy alumni have done much else of note.
>>
>> So Bones isn't about to go into its 3rd season then?
>
> That doesn't prove it's any good. I quite liked the pilot but there was 
> nothing about it that made me want to watch any further episodes.
>

I quite like Bones, actually. Not enough to go and buy the box set, but 
enough to set the Sky+ box for it.

Toast.
date: Sat, 4 Aug 2007 19:25:10 +0100   author:   Head of Toast

Re: Buffy star's joy at Torchwood job   
In article ,
kim  wrote:

>> So Bones isn't about to go into its 3rd season then?

>That doesn't prove it's any good. I quite liked the pilot but there was 
>nothing about it that made me want to watch any further episodes.

Pity. It's getting better and better.

And David is a huge part of that.
date: Sun, 5 Aug 2007 14:51:54 +0000 (UTC)   author:   (Marc Espie)

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