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date: Tue, 21 Apr 2009 20:49:19 +0900,    group: uk.media.radio.bbc-r4        back       
Re: Google Street View Not Violating Privacy Laws Says ICO   
On 20 Apr, 19:14, "Michael C"  wrote:
> "Turk182"  wrote in message
>
> news:c04857c4-11fd-436a-b488-1fdfa6a1ef10@c12g2000yqc.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
> > I read a report where Google claimed they were getting a 1% error.
> > Not a large amount, or massive, depending on how we view the vast
> > number being trawled through by Google all over the country as we
> > speak.
>
> > If The Banks let out information from 1% of their customers, this
> > would be enough to cause widespread condemnation.
>
> Erm, yes because that would be very serious.
>
> >In one area I examined on Google Streetview, I believe the figure of
> >1% may be higher.
>
> What area?  Your claims in this have so far reeked of lies.

Lies is it?   It's no surprise, you acuse others of lies, when what
you despise, is to open your eyes!

OK.  Let's go to Greenfinch Road, Smith's Wood, England

Greenfinch Road, Smith's Wood, comprises off a deg leg shaped road,
with two offf shoots which are also Greenfinch Road, and a third off
shoot, which although names Greenfinch Road, is in fact Greenfinch
Close.  So let's look at Greenfinch Road and Green Finch Close.

If we forget Google's lies about blurring out numbers, you can see how
there are plenty of car reg's blurred when looking in some angles.
However, with a little bit of moving the camera around and then
looking back at your target vehicle from a different direction - or on
zoom, we quickly see more reg numbers appear.  I estimate that that I
have picked up at least 50% of the numbers acorss this area.  Allow me
to list the ones I am sure about for you:

Rover Freelander NC54 KCG
Black Fiesta       T165 UON
Black Ford          BK56 KAA
Car                     BU02 LPC
Car                     BF56 YHY
White Saloon      W391 UBH
Rover                  S352 SNM
Car                     S252 AHO
Honda                 R888 EAL
Blue Hatchback   BV52 WCL
Vauxhall             N854 FBF
Blue Hatchback  T387 RHT
Rover                 L197 HFC
Black Peugeot    VU53 MYT
Car                    BJ57 OYF
White Estate      X454 JRF
Car                   W395 RGH
Hatchback         BK08 VBA
Red Van            Y886 CDA
Discovery          M411 NTT
Blue Hatchback BV53 WZB
Rover                R914 SFL
Ford Escort       LK52 RWJ

The simple truth is that Google are not telling the truth and the
Information Commissioner takes them on their word instead of checking
for himself - perhaps he has never used a mouse!

We have a serious invasion of privacy which is getting multiplied on a
dilay basis as Google tear round ourstreets, filming at high speed
before someone stops them.

Once again, of course I relaise that this information can be obtained
by going to the addresses, but it is the DATABASE od street names
linked to the numbers which I believe is an offence.  The Info
Commissioner is an ass.

Turk182
date: Mon, 20 Apr 2009 16:43:28 -0700 (PDT)   author:   Turk182

Re: Watch Out M1JBW - Google Have Told The World Where You Have Been!   
On Mon, 20 Apr 2009 23:59:16 +0100, "J. P. Gilliver (John)"
 wrote:

>In article , on Mon, 20 Apr 
>2009, Cynic  wrote
>[]
>>I agree that one person's freedom to do something must be balanced
>>against the harm that activity may cause to others.  What I demand
>>however, is that before any activity is banned, there must be *real
>>evidence* that there is a significant probability that it will cause
>>significant harm.
>
>You have to be careful with this sort of argument - too often have I 
>heard "do we have to wait for someone to be killed before we get a 
>roundabout/zebra crossing/speed bumps/traffic lights here", often sadly 
>with truth.

And often, sadly necessary because the alternative is to ban
everything that has the slightest possibility of causing harm.  In
addition, a ban is often imposed after a single tragic event that is
in fact an extremely *unlikely* probability.  The gun ban after
Dunblane comes to mind.

>The problem is that the definition of "real evidence" and 
>"significant harm" are both subjective decisions (or, at least, _very_ 
>hard to frame laws about accurately).

If there is no evidence that harm is at all likely, then how could
anyone come to the conclusion that the activity is so potentially
harmful that it should be banned?  If you believe that crossing is
dangerous, you must have a *reason* for believing such a thing.
Whatever you used to make that decision is evidence that can be
assessed objectively.  Assessing road risk has become quite a science
and the risk can be evaluated very accurately without any need for a
fatal accident - and in fact a fatal accident really proves nothing
except that the possibility *exists* - which we know is true of *any*
road.

Many people believe that mobile phones cause brain tumours.  Should we
therefore ban mobile phones because there is a widespread belief that
they are very harmful?  Or should we first demand to see *evidence*
that such harm is a significant probability before imposing a ban?

Far too many things are banned "just in case" they might cause harm,
without anyone demanding to see evidence.  Snorkelling is banned in
every UK public swimming pool I have been to, yet I know of no
evidence that it is likely to lead to harm or inconvenience.  It does
not cause problems in other countries where snorkelling is a
commonplace activity in public pools.

-- 
Cynic
date: Tue, 21 Apr 2009 10:38:26 +0100   author:   Cynic

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date: Tue, 21 Apr 2009 20:49:19 +0900   author:   Ben Ohmart

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