I don't know who's more moronic, vandalism or people who encourage the 
vandals to call it art.

turnitup formulated on Wednesday :
> I don't know who's more moronic, vandalism or people who encourage the 
> vandals to call it art.

I would have thought the Vandals destroyed far more art than they ever 
created.  When they sacked Rome they caused a terrific amount of 
damage.

-- 
Count Baldoni

turnitup wrote:
> I don't know who's more moronic, vandalism or people who encourage the
> vandals to call it art.

Are you trying to tell me that this isn't art? Or that it says something 
valid about the wall it is on?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Rockboy.jpg

Les


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"Les Hemmings"  wrote in message 
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> turnitup wrote:
>> I don't know who's more moronic, vandalism or people who encourage the
>> vandals to call it art.
>
> Are you trying to tell me that this isn't art? Or that it says something 
> valid about the wall it is on?
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Rockboy.jpg
>

I like this in Park street Bristol.

<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Banksy-ps.jpg>


> Les
>
>
> -- 
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>
> "These people believe the souls of fried space aliens inhabit their
> bodies and hold soup cans to get rid of them. I should care what they
> think?"...Valerie Emmanuel
>
> Les Hemmings  a.a #2251 SA
>
>
>

Ivan wrote:
>>
>
> I like this in Park street Bristol.
>
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Banksy-ps.jpg>
>
>

This girl has a feel of the 1950's about here... I like the way he depicts 
the wind too.

http://www.banksy.co.uk/outdoors/images/landscapes/balloongirl_alwayshope.jpg

Love this one too...

http://www.banksy.co.uk/outdoors/images/landscapes/piltonfrisk.jpg

And i do like the rats..

http://www.artofthestate.co.uk/banksy/Banksy_because_i'm_worthless_rat.htm

If done this well then I'm all for it... It brightens up the place and I 
like some of the points he makes...

http://www.flickr.com/photos/kriebel/1581777964/in/pool-banksy/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/nolifebeforecoffee/124659356/in/pool-banksy/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/danprates/1435340151/in/pool-banksy/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/dog-n-dub/952567991/in/pool-banksy/

Les

Les Hemmings wrote:

> If done this well then I'm all for it... It brightens up the place and I 
> like some of the points he makes...
> 

Which are?

"turnitup" <same@same> wrote in message 
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> Les Hemmings wrote:
>
>> If done this well then I'm all for it... It brightens up the place and I 
>> like some of the points he makes...
>>
>
> Which are?

Well this one for instance..

<http://www.flickr.com/photos/danprates/1435340151/in/pool-banksy/>

 Which was obviously based on this classic photograph which anyone over 50 
should easily remember.

<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:TrangBang.jpg>

"Les Hemmings"  wrote in message 
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> turnitup wrote:
>> I don't know who's more moronic, vandalism or people who encourage the
>> vandals to call it art.
>
> Are you trying to tell me that this isn't art? Or that it says something 
> valid about the wall it is on?
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Rockboy.jpg
>
> Les

Even Banksy says it's shit. The quote is 'I can't believe you fucking morons 
buy this shit.'

Source: The Times, 30/10/07

ROBBIE

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>
> "Les Hemmings"  wrote in message 
> news:5osqvnFogd5fU1@mid.individual.net...
>> turnitup wrote:
>>> I don't know who's more moronic, vandalism or people who encourage the
>>> vandals to call it art.
>>
>> Are you trying to tell me that this isn't art? Or that it says something 
>> valid about the wall it is on?
>>
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Rockboy.jpg
>>
>> Les
>
> Even Banksy says it's shit. The quote is 'I can't believe you fucking 
> morons buy this shit.'
>
> Source: The Times, 30/10/07
>

The closest link I can find is this one..

<http://entertainment.timesonline.co.uk/tol/arts_and_entertainment/visual_arts/article2774359.ece>

Can you please post the exact URL where he says 'I can't believe you fucking 
morons
buy this shit.'


> ROBBIE
>

Ivan wrote:
> 
> "turnitup" <same@same> wrote in message 
> news:472a1e76$0$8414$db0fefd9@news.zen.co.uk...
>> Les Hemmings wrote:
>>
>>> If done this well then I'm all for it... It brightens up the place 
>>> and I like some of the points he makes...
>>>
>>
>> Which are?
> 
> Well this one for instance..
> 
> <http://www.flickr.com/photos/danprates/1435340151/in/pool-banksy/>
> 
> Which was obviously based on this classic photograph which anyone over 
> 50 should easily remember.
> 
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:TrangBang.jpg>

I know the photograph very well. Right. But what's the point the drawer 
is making? Is it that Walt Disney and MacDonalds were responsible for 
the Vietnam war? Because that's absurd. It might be something a 
sixth-former foments in his bedroom, but to an adult audience, it should 
  be something understood to be ridiculous.

turnitup goes:

>Ivan wrote:
>> "turnitup" <same@same> wrote in message 
>> news:472a1e76$0$8414$db0fefd9@news.zen.co.uk...
>>> Les Hemmings wrote:

>>>> If done this well then I'm all for it... It brightens up the place 
>>>> and I like some of the points he makes...

>>> Which are?
 
>> Well this one for instance..
 
>> <http://www.flickr.com/photos/danprates/1435340151/in/pool-banksy/>
 
>> Which was obviously based on this classic photograph which anyone over 
>> 50 should easily remember.
 
>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:TrangBang.jpg>

>I know the photograph very well. Right. But what's the point the drawer 
>is making? Is it that Walt Disney and MacDonalds were responsible for 
>the Vietnam war? Because that's absurd. It might be something a 
>sixth-former foments in his bedroom, but to an adult audience, it should 
>  be something understood to be ridiculous.

The trouble with religious fundamentalists like you is, you have
absolutely no concept of metaphor whatsoever. That's why you take the
Bible so literally in the first place, obviously, and it also crippled
your understanding of the world as a whole. 


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Hugh Oxford wrote:
> Alan Hope wrote:
>>
>>>> <http://www.flickr.com/photos/danprates/1435340151/in/pool-banksy/>
>>
>>>> Which was obviously based on this classic photograph which anyone
>>>> over 50 should easily remember.
>>
>>>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:TrangBang.jpg>
>>
>>> I know the photograph very well. Right. But what's the point the
>>> drawer is making? Is it that Walt Disney and MacDonalds were
>>> responsible for the Vietnam war? Because that's absurd. It might be
>>> something a sixth-former foments in his bedroom, but to an adult
>>>  audience, it should be something understood to be ridiculous.
>>
>> The trouble with religious fundamentalists like you is, you have
>> absolutely no concept of metaphor whatsoever. That's why you take the
>> Bible so literally in the first place, obviously, and it also
>> crippled your understanding of the world as a whole.
>>
>>
>
> What a pointless remark.

I thought it quite apt... The images of Ronald McDonald leading the victim 
of the Viet Nam war by her hands says much about the state of the world we 
have been in since WWII.

Nothing makes an arms dealer more happy than a decent war. Most western 
economies are set up to require a war every 15 to 20 years or so. It removes 
a chunk of the working age populace, depletes the stockpiles of arms and 
gives the politicians something to re-enforce the "them & us" mentality that 
you need to keep a hold on power.

The images of american big business, of the free market, of the american way 
and the sanitisation of these forces in society represented by R.MacDonald 
and M.Mouse in close personal contact with one of the most horrific and 
striking images to come out of the Viet Nam war seem to me to bring all 
these thoughts into sharp relief, along with the concomitant emotions of 
disgust at the western free market economy in full and free flight.

In these times of spin, hype, deionisation of the "other" and the tin pot 
triumphalism of the US i think this image deserves to be seen as more than 
mere vandalism.

Les

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Les Hemmings wrote:
> In these times of spin, hype, deionisation of the "other" and the tin
> pot triumphalism of the US i think this image deserves to be seen as more
> than mere vandalism.
>
> Les
>
This should, of course, been "demonisation"...  not "deionisation"..

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"Ivan" <ivan'H'older@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message 
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>
> "ROBBIE"  wrote in message 
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>>
>> "Les Hemmings"  wrote in message 
>> news:5osqvnFogd5fU1@mid.individual.net...
>>> turnitup wrote:
>>>> I don't know who's more moronic, vandalism or people who encourage the
>>>> vandals to call it art.
>>>
>>> Are you trying to tell me that this isn't art? Or that it says something 
>>> valid about the wall it is on?
>>>
>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Rockboy.jpg
>>>
>>> Les
>>
>> Even Banksy says it's shit. The quote is 'I can't believe you fucking 
>> morons buy this shit.'
>>
>> Source: The Times, 30/10/07
>>
>
> The closest link I can find is this one..
>
> <http://entertainment.timesonline.co.uk/tol/arts_and_entertainment/visual_arts/article2774359.ece>
>
> Can you please post the exact URL where he says 'I can't believe you 
> fucking morons
> buy this shit.'

It's not on his website. Yeah, that's it, it's a big rightwing Murdoch 
conspiracy.



ROBBIE

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> "Ivan" <ivan'H'older@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message 
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>>
>> "ROBBIE"  wrote in message 
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>>>
>>> "Les Hemmings"  wrote in message 
>>> news:5osqvnFogd5fU1@mid.individual.net...
>>>> turnitup wrote:
>>>>> I don't know who's more moronic, vandalism or people who encourage the
>>>>> vandals to call it art.
>>>>
>>>> Are you trying to tell me that this isn't art? Or that it says 
>>>> something valid about the wall it is on?
>>>>
>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Rockboy.jpg
>>>>
>>>> Les
>>>
>>> Even Banksy says it's shit. The quote is 'I can't believe you fucking 
>>> morons buy this shit.'
>>>
>>> Source: The Times, 30/10/07
>>>
>>
>> The closest link I can find is this one..
>>
>> <http://entertainment.timesonline.co.uk/tol/arts_and_entertainment/visual_arts/article2774359.ece>
>>
>> Can you please post the exact URL where he says 'I can't believe you 
>> fucking morons
>> buy this shit.'
>
> It's not on his website. Yeah, that's it, it's a big rightwing Murdoch 
> conspiracy.
>

You mean as opposed to the more usual 'huge BBC leftwing conspiracy'?
>
>
> ROBBIE
>

"Ivan" <ivan'H'older@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message 
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> "ROBBIE"  wrote in message 
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>>
>> "Ivan" <ivan'H'older@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message 
>> news:HutWi.40896$c_1.6662@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
>>>
>>> "ROBBIE"  wrote in message 
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>>>>
>>>> "Les Hemmings"  wrote in message 
>>>> news:5osqvnFogd5fU1@mid.individual.net...
>>>>> turnitup wrote:
>>>>>> I don't know who's more moronic, vandalism or people who encourage 
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> vandals to call it art.
>>>>>
>>>>> Are you trying to tell me that this isn't art? Or that it says 
>>>>> something valid about the wall it is on?
>>>>>
>>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Rockboy.jpg
>>>>>
>>>>> Les
>>>>
>>>> Even Banksy says it's shit. The quote is 'I can't believe you fucking 
>>>> morons buy this shit.'
>>>>
>>>> Source: The Times, 30/10/07
>>>>
>>>
>>> The closest link I can find is this one..
>>>
>>> <http://entertainment.timesonline.co.uk/tol/arts_and_entertainment/visual_arts/article2774359.ece>
>>>
>>> Can you please post the exact URL where he says 'I can't believe you 
>>> fucking morons
>>> buy this shit.'
>>
>> It's not on his website. Yeah, that's it, it's a big rightwing Murdoch 
>> conspiracy.
>>
>
> You mean as opposed to the more usual 'huge BBC leftwing conspiracy'?
>>
>>
>> ROBBIE
>>
>

A quote is a quote. The BBC, as I think everybody knows, is dominated by a 
liberal-left mindset. Its senior members have admitted this; its journalists 
have admitted this; serious consideration of its news line-ups demonstrates 
this. But a quote is a quote. Now it may be that someone at the Times has 
realised that Banksy is not in a position to sue, so they made the quote up. 
It maybe that he said it and yanked it from his website. But since the 
columnists at the Times are mostly centre-left, and it's run a column for 
the past year by Grayson Perry, and its chief art critic was v gullible 
about Doris Calceda's crack at the Tate Modern, I don't think there is an 
agenda against Banksy at the Times. In the end, he's a rather dreary and 
predictable, sarcastic (he thinks its irony), mildly anarchic vandal with 
the puerile sensibilities you would expect from his generation. He would say 
something like that and think it terribly clever.

ROBBIE

ROBBIE goes:

>
>"Ivan" <ivan'H'older@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message 
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>>
>> "ROBBIE"  wrote in message 
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>>>
>>> "Ivan" <ivan'H'older@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message 
>>> news:HutWi.40896$c_1.6662@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
>>>>
>>>> "ROBBIE"  wrote in message 
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>>>>>
>>>>> "Les Hemmings"  wrote in message 
>>>>> news:5osqvnFogd5fU1@mid.individual.net...
>>>>>> turnitup wrote:
>>>>>>> I don't know who's more moronic, vandalism or people who encourage 
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> vandals to call it art.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Are you trying to tell me that this isn't art? Or that it says 
>>>>>> something valid about the wall it is on?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Rockboy.jpg
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Les
>>>>>
>>>>> Even Banksy says it's shit. The quote is 'I can't believe you fucking 
>>>>> morons buy this shit.'
>>>>>
>>>>> Source: The Times, 30/10/07
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The closest link I can find is this one..
>>>>
>>>> <http://entertainment.timesonline.co.uk/tol/arts_and_entertainment/visual_arts/article2774359.ece>
>>>>
>>>> Can you please post the exact URL where he says 'I can't believe you 
>>>> fucking morons
>>>> buy this shit.'
>>>
>>> It's not on his website. Yeah, that's it, it's a big rightwing Murdoch 
>>> conspiracy.
>>>
>>
>> You mean as opposed to the more usual 'huge BBC leftwing conspiracy'?
>>>
>>>
>>> ROBBIE
>>>
>>
>
>A quote is a quote. The BBC, as I think everybody knows, is dominated by a 
>liberal-left mindset. Its senior members have admitted this; its journalists 
>have admitted this; serious consideration of its news line-ups demonstrates 
>this. But a quote is a quote. Now it may be that someone at the Times has 
>realised that Banksy is not in a position to sue, so they made the quote up. 
>It maybe that he said it and yanked it from his website. But since the 
>columnists at the Times are mostly centre-left, and it's run a column for 
>the past year by Grayson Perry, and its chief art critic was v gullible 
>about Doris Calceda's crack at the Tate Modern, I don't think there is an 
>agenda against Banksy at the Times. In the end, he's a rather dreary and 
>predictable, sarcastic (he thinks its irony), mildly anarchic vandal with 
>the puerile sensibilities you would expect from his generation. He would say 
>something like that and think it terribly clever.

In other words, you have no idea whether he said it or not. 

Why not just admit it? What's with this "he would say something like
that"? What does that prove?

Okay, ROBBIE admits, so it wasn't the truth. But at least it was
truthy. 


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"Alan Hope"  wrote in message 
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> ROBBIE goes:
>
>>
>>"Ivan" <ivan'H'older@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
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>>>
>>> "ROBBIE"  wrote in message
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>>>>
>>>> "Ivan" <ivan'H'older@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
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>>>>>
>>>>> "ROBBIE"  wrote in message
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>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Les Hemmings"  wrote in message
>>>>>> news:5osqvnFogd5fU1@mid.individual.net...
>>>>>>> turnitup wrote:
>>>>>>>> I don't know who's more moronic, vandalism or people who encourage
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> vandals to call it art.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Are you trying to tell me that this isn't art? Or that it says
>>>>>>> something valid about the wall it is on?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Rockboy.jpg
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Les
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Even Banksy says it's shit. The quote is 'I can't believe you fucking
>>>>>> morons buy this shit.'
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Source: The Times, 30/10/07
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> The closest link I can find is this one..
>>>>>
>>>>> <http://entertainment.timesonline.co.uk/tol/arts_and_entertainment/visual_arts/article2774359.ece>
>>>>>
>>>>> Can you please post the exact URL where he says 'I can't believe you
>>>>> fucking morons
>>>>> buy this shit.'
>>>>
>>>> It's not on his website. Yeah, that's it, it's a big rightwing Murdoch
>>>> conspiracy.
>>>>
>>>
>>> You mean as opposed to the more usual 'huge BBC leftwing conspiracy'?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ROBBIE
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>A quote is a quote. The BBC, as I think everybody knows, is dominated by a
>>liberal-left mindset. Its senior members have admitted this; its 
>>journalists
>>have admitted this; serious consideration of its news line-ups 
>>demonstrates
>>this. But a quote is a quote. Now it may be that someone at the Times has
>>realised that Banksy is not in a position to sue, so they made the quote 
>>up.
>>It maybe that he said it and yanked it from his website. But since the
>>columnists at the Times are mostly centre-left, and it's run a column for
>>the past year by Grayson Perry, and its chief art critic was v gullible
>>about Doris Calceda's crack at the Tate Modern, I don't think there is an
>>agenda against Banksy at the Times. In the end, he's a rather dreary and
>>predictable, sarcastic (he thinks its irony), mildly anarchic vandal with
>>the puerile sensibilities you would expect from his generation. He would 
>>say
>>something like that and think it terribly clever.
>
> In other words, you have no idea whether he said it or not.
>
> Why not just admit it? What's with this "he would say something like
> that"? What does that prove?
>
> Okay, ROBBIE admits, so it wasn't the truth. But at least it was
> truthy.
>

Life must be exhausting for you both if you never believe any quote in any 
newspaper ('cept the Graunipendent, for yor, Al) with then verifying the 
source.

ROBBIE

ROBBIE goes:

>Life must be exhausting for you both if you never believe any quote in any 
>newspaper ('cept the Graunipendent, for yor, Al) with then verifying the 
>source.

You haven't even provided a newspaper quote, you shifty little cunt. 


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Ivan wrote:
> 
> "Les Hemmings"  wrote in message 
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> 
>> turnitup wrote:
>>
>>> I don't know who's more moronic, vandalism or people who encourage the
>>> vandals to call it art.
>>
>>
>> Are you trying to tell me that this isn't art? Or that it says 
>> something valid about the wall it is on?
>>
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Rockboy.jpg
>>
> 
> I like this in Park street Bristol.
> 
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Banksy-ps.jpg>

That picture may well have been painted with the permission of the 
owner of the building, and thus not be vandalism. There are lots of 
authorised external murals out there. As long as they are within local 
planning law, there's no problem.

Daubed initials (and similar) along railway tracks (for example) are 
dispiriting and  are a despoiling of the environment which - because 
they are so immediate and obvious - are far worse than most other 
forms of pollution.

JNugent wrote:
>
> Daubed initials (and similar) along railway tracks (for example) are
> dispiriting and  are a despoiling of the environment which - because
> they are so immediate and obvious - are far worse than most other
> forms of pollution.

Agreed...

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"Alan Hope"  wrote in message 
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> ROBBIE goes:
>
>>Life must be exhausting for you both if you never believe any quote in any
>>newspaper ('cept the Graunipendent, for yor, Al) with then verifying the
>>source.
>
> You haven't even provided a newspaper quote, you shifty little cunt.
>
>

Yes I have, Ivan found the one I was referring to and which he found 
wanting:

http://entertainment.timesonline.co.uk/tol/arts_and_entertainment/visual_arts/article2774359.ece

Remember, you thick cunt, that I said at the start of the thread that the 
Times was the source. Then Ivan found it, which meant that I didn't have to 
paste it in - except for an obsessive, dozy bastard like you, who enters a 
thread with only one aim: contradicting what I say.

Now, sun rises in the East.

HOPE: OH no it doesn't!

Get a fucking life, McFuckup, you can't even do this shit properly.

ROBBIE

ROBBIE goes:

>
>"Alan Hope"  wrote in message 
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>> ROBBIE goes:
>>
>>>Life must be exhausting for you both if you never believe any quote in any
>>>newspaper ('cept the Graunipendent, for yor, Al) with then verifying the
>>>source.
>>
>> You haven't even provided a newspaper quote, you shifty little cunt.
>>
>>
>
>Yes I have, Ivan found the one I was referring to and which he found 
>wanting:
>
>http://entertainment.timesonline.co.uk/tol/arts_and_entertainment/visual_arts/article2774359.ece


Shame it doesn't say what you claimed. 


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"Alan Hope"  wrote in message 
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> ROBBIE goes:
>
>>
>>"Alan Hope"  wrote in message
>>news:a44pi3dajto15ld4ol0f75j34s9jliboue@4ax.com...
>>> ROBBIE goes:
>>>
>>>>Life must be exhausting for you both if you never believe any quote in 
>>>>any
>>>>newspaper ('cept the Graunipendent, for yor, Al) with then verifying the
>>>>source.
>>>
>>> You haven't even provided a newspaper quote, you shifty little cunt.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>Yes I have, Ivan found the one I was referring to and which he found
>>wanting:
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>>http://entertainment.timesonline.co.uk/tol/arts_and_entertainment/visual_arts/article2774359.ece
>
>
> Shame it doesn't say what you claimed.
>

It's a quote. See my above responses.

You're clearly a fan - but you'd have to be, otherwise you might get called 
a fogey.

ROBBIE