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date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 06:35:13 +0000,    group: uk.media.radio.bbc-r4        back       
Lost Plays   
X-No-Archive: yes

In the current BBC7 newsletter Mary Kalemkarian comments on the sad
death of my fellow scribe and crony, R D Wingfield last July. To my
certain knowledge Rodney turned out at least 30 radio dramas in the
1970s and 80s, all of which bore his unique stamp of clever indirection
and yet only two plays are 'still in archive'. The rest have been lost.

This has happened to me, with about ten lost including my first play
which I recovered from an off-air recording and cleaned up for broadcast
on BBC7 using the amazing software package Cool Edit.

        (NB: Cue factoid factors to tell us that Cool Edit is garbage)

-- 
James Follett. Novelist. (G1LXP) http://www.jamesfollett.dswilliams.co.uk
Bloody Earthsearch on BBC7 every weekend for nearly six months and now Power
Corp are to make a movie of Follett's ICE.
http://scripts.digicc.com/powtv/prog_synopsis.php?id=655
date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 06:35:13 +0000   author:   JF

Re: Lost Plays   
JF wrote:
> 
> In the current BBC7 newsletter Mary Kalemkarian comments on the sad
> death of my fellow scribe and crony, R D Wingfield last July. To my
> certain knowledge Rodney turned out at least 30 radio dramas in the
> 1970s and 80s, all of which bore his unique stamp of clever indirection
> and yet only two plays are 'still in archive'. The rest have been lost.
> 
> This has happened to me, with about ten lost including my first play
> which I recovered from an off-air recording and cleaned up for broadcast
> on BBC7 using the amazing software package Cool Edit.
> 
>         (NB: Cue factoid factors to tell us that Cool Edit is garbage)

I see your missus is in the news for free loading.

-- 
Remove "antispam" and ".invalid" for e-mail address.
"He that giveth to the poor lendeth to the Lord, and shall be repaid," 
said Mrs Fairchild, hastily slipping a shilling into the poor woman's
hand.
date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 15:47:08 GMT   author:   Frederick Williams Frederick Williams@antispamhotmail.co.uk.invalid

Re: Lost Plays   
Frederick Williams <"Frederick 
Williams"@antispamhotmail.co.uk.invalid> had it ...

> JF wrote:
> > 
> > In the current BBC7 newsletter Mary Kalemkarian comments on the sad
> > death of my fellow scribe and crony, R D Wingfield last July. To my
> > certain knowledge Rodney turned out at least 30 radio dramas in the
> > 1970s and 80s, all of which bore his unique stamp of clever indirection
> > and yet only two plays are 'still in archive'. The rest have been lost.
> > 
> > This has happened to me, with about ten lost including my first play
> > which I recovered from an off-air recording and cleaned up for broadcast
> > on BBC7 using the amazing software package Cool Edit.
> > 
> >         (NB: Cue factoid factors to tell us that Cool Edit is garbage)
> 
> I see your missus is in the news for free loading.

Tee hee.  Jimbo's not married to any politicians, you know.

-- 
David
date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 15:53:06 GMT   author:   the Omrud

Re: Lost Plays   
JF wrote:
> X-No-Archive: yes
> 
> In the current BBC7 newsletter Mary Kalemkarian comments on the sad
> death of my fellow scribe and crony, R D Wingfield last July. To my
> certain knowledge Rodney turned out at least 30 radio dramas in the
> 1970s and 80s, all of which bore his unique stamp of clever indirection
> and yet only two plays are 'still in archive'. The rest have been lost.
> 
> This has happened to me, with about ten lost including my first play
> which I recovered from an off-air recording and cleaned up for broadcast
> on BBC7 using the amazing software package Cool Edit.
> 
>         (NB: Cue factoid factors to tell us that Cool Edit is garbage)

Cool Edit (Adobe Audition as it is now known) is pretty good. 
Soundforge is even better at noise reduction.

Didn't you make off-air recordings of your own plays (even if on 
cassette)? If not, why not?
date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 18:01:32 +0000   author:   JNugent

Re: Lost Plays   
X-No-Archive: yes

In message , JNugent 
 writes
>JF wrote:

>>  This has happened to me, with about ten lost including my first play
>> which I recovered from an off-air recording and cleaned up for broadcast
>> on BBC7 using the amazing software package Cool Edit.

>Didn't you make off-air recordings of your own plays (even if on 
>cassette)? If not, why not?

Yes -- I did. I've sent a number of 'restored' recordings to the BBC7. 
Some are beyond repair due to aircraft causing multi-pathing flutter; 
some were recording on AM only dating from the days of split frequency 
broadcasting; some are beyond recovery due to poor tape and print 
through imaging; a few are just plain lost.

In the case of R D Wingfield's lost plays, I'm wondering if his son, 
Philip, might have recordings among his dad's things.

The actor David Buck used to record everything he appeared in using a 
reel-to-reel recording. Thanks to him an episode of 'War and Peace' that 
had been lost before first transmission was recovered. The SM Lloyd 
Silverthorne was a firm believe in making a belt and braces copy of 
every production he was involved in.

-- 
James Follett. Novelist. (G1LXP) http://www.jamesfollett.dswilliams.co.uk
Bloody Earthsearch on BBC7 every weekend for nearly six months and now Power
Corp are to make a movie of Follett's ICE.
http://scripts.digicc.com/powtv/prog_synopsis.php?id=655
date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 07:58:32 +0000   author:   JF

Re: Lost Plays   
the Omrud wrote:
> 
> Frederick Williams <"Frederick
> Williams"@antispamhotmail.co.uk.invalid> had it ...
> 
> > JF wrote:
> > >
> > > In the current BBC7 newsletter Mary Kalemkarian comments on the sad
> > > death of my fellow scribe and crony, R D Wingfield last July. To my
> > > certain knowledge Rodney turned out at least 30 radio dramas in the
> > > 1970s and 80s, all of which bore his unique stamp of clever indirection
> > > and yet only two plays are 'still in archive'. The rest have been lost.
> > >
> > > This has happened to me, with about ten lost including my first play
> > > which I recovered from an off-air recording and cleaned up for broadcast
> > > on BBC7 using the amazing software package Cool Edit.
> > >
> > >         (NB: Cue factoid factors to tell us that Cool Edit is garbage)
> >
> > I see your missus is in the news for free loading.
> 
> Tee hee.  Jimbo's not married to any politicians, you know.

I misspelt "freeloading".

-- 
Remove "antispam" and ".invalid" for e-mail address.
"He that giveth to the poor lendeth to the Lord, and shall be repaid," 
said Mrs Fairchild, hastily slipping a shilling into the poor woman's
hand.
date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 11:08:34 GMT   author:   Frederick Williams Frederick Williams@antispamhotmail.co.uk.invalid

Re: Lost Plays   
On Oct 29, 6:01 pm, JNugent 
wrote:
> JF wrote:
> > X-No-Archive: yes
>
> > In the current BBC7 newsletter Mary Kalemkarian comments on the sad
> > death of my fellow scribe and crony, R D Wingfield last July. To my
> > certain knowledge Rodney turned out at least 30 radio dramas in the
> > 1970s and 80s, all of which bore his unique stamp of clever indirection
> > and yet only two plays are 'still in archive'. The rest have been lost.
>
> > This has happened to me, with about ten lost including my first play
> > which I recovered from an off-air recording and cleaned up for broadcast
> > on BBC7 using the amazing software package Cool Edit.
>
> >         (NB: Cue factoid factors to tell us that Cool Edit is garbage)
>
> Cool Edit (Adobe Audition as it is now known) is pretty good.
> Soundforge is even better at noise reduction.
>
> Didn't you make off-air recordings of your own plays (even if on
> cassette)? If not, why not?

If so, why?  I mean, you'll write the thing, you collect the money and
bugger off.  Now I gather that in practice, from what you revealed in
a BBC 7 talk, you were on hand for a lot of the recording work, unless
I'm confusing you with Jonathan James Moore.  But the radio product
was professional work passed into other hands and not your ultimate
responsibility.  It even could end up different to what was on paper -
and no reflection on you.  I enjoyed hearing the recorded and rescued
work - we're talking about _The Destruction Factor_? - scientifically
very dubious of course, but these days you'd just blame it on
nanotechnology instead...  so thanks for that, but professionally was
there a reason?
date: Wed, 07 Nov 2007 08:18:40 -0800   author:   Robert Carnegie

Re: Lost Plays   
"Raving"  wrote in message 
news:221ca7e2-8e8f-4cea-818f-6bc833ab6682@d4g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
>
> Wim Jay = Jim Way = anonym

By gad, Raving, I think you're definitely onto something there! Where do you 
get your inspiration from?

>  = (?)  James Follet  ???

ROLF! A step too far, you dumb Kunt.

> (Raving would be incurably *optimistic* for hoping that this
> confluzeon will ever clear up, eh?)

How would "Holly" feel about it?

Go back to reading your summaries, Holly dear, and posting about your black 
moods. Much more phun in those posts.

Signed (To enlighten the thick & dense)

Wim Jay
Jim Way
Theobold Watcher
anonym

(and on the odd occasion: Rage Coldfield; Neal Barker; David The Supt.; 
something about condiments; and anything else that may take my fancy 
according to the time of day, my alcohol intake and the mood I'm in.)

But *JAMES FOLLETT*!!!!! Your fucking Raving, Raving - aka Holly.
date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 17:30:22 GMT   author:   Jim Way

Re: Lost Plays   
On Nov 29, 12:30 pm, "Jim Way"  wrote:
> "Raving"  wrote in message
>
> news:221ca7e2-8e8f-4cea-818f-6bc833ab6682@d4g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
> > Wim Jay = Jim Way = anonym
>
> By gad, Raving, I think you're definitely onto something there! Where do you
> get your inspiration from?
>
> >  = (?)  James Follet  ???
[snip]

> Signed (To enlighten the thick & dense)
>
> Wim Jay
> Jim Way
> Theobold Watcher
> anonym
>
> (and on the odd occasion: Rage Coldfield; Neal Barker; David The Supt.;
> something about condiments; and anything else that may take my fancy
> according to the time of day, my alcohol intake and the mood I'm in.)
>

As for ...

> But *JAMES FOLLETT*!!!!! (???)   ...

  ... Uh huh.
date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 09:46:33 -0800 (PST)   author:   Raving

Re: Lost Plays   
On Nov 7, 11:18 am, Robert Carnegie  wrote:
> On Oct 29, 6:01 pm, JNugent 
> wrote:
>
>
>
> >JFwrote:
> > > X-No-Archive: yes
>
> > > In the current BBC7 newsletter Mary Kalemkarian comments on the sad
> > > death of my fellow scribe and crony, R D Wingfield last July. To my
> > > certain knowledge Rodney turned out at least 30 radio dramas in the
> > > 1970s and 80s, all of which bore his unique stamp of clever indirection
> > > and yet only two plays are 'still in archive'. The rest have been lost.
>
> > > This has happened to me, with about ten lost including my first play
> > > which I recovered from an off-air recording and cleaned up for broadcast
> > > on BBC7 using the amazing software package Cool Edit.
>
> > >         (NB: Cue factoid factors to tell us that Cool Edit is garbage)
>
> > Cool Edit (Adobe Audition as it is now known) is pretty good.
> > Soundforge is even better at noise reduction.
>
> > Didn't you make off-air recordings of your own plays (even if on
> > cassette)? If not, why not?
>
> If so, why?  I mean, you'll write the thing, you collect the money and
> bugger off.  Now I gather that in practice, from what you revealed in
> a BBC 7 talk, you were on hand for a lot of the recording work, unless
> I'm confusing you with Jonathan James Moore.  But the radio product
> was professional work passed into other hands and not your ultimate
> responsibility.  It even could end up different to what was on paper -
> and no reflection on you.  I enjoyed hearing the recorded and rescued
> work - we're talking about _The Destruction Factor_? - scientifically
> very dubious of course, but these days you'd just blame it on
> nanotechnology instead...  so thanks for that, but professionally was
> there a reason?

Wim Jay = Jim Way = anonym = (?)  James Follet  ???

(Raving would be incurably *optimistic* for hoping that this
confluzeon will ever clear up, eh?)
date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 08:46:59 -0800 (PST)   author:   Raving

Re: Lost Plays   
Jim Way wrote:
> "Raving"  wrote in message 
> news:221ca7e2-8e8f-4cea-818f-6bc833ab6682@d4g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
>>
>> Wim Jay = Jim Way = anonym
> 
> By gad, Raving, I think you're definitely onto something there! Where do you 
> get your inspiration from?
> 
>>  = (?)  James Follet  ???
> 
> ROLF! A step too far, you dumb Kunt.
> 
>> (Raving would be incurably *optimistic* for hoping that this
>> confluzeon will ever clear up, eh?)
> 
> How would "Holly" feel about it?
> 
> Go back to reading your summaries, Holly dear, and posting about your black 
> moods. Much more phun in those posts.
> 
> Signed (To enlighten the thick & dense)
> 
> Wim Jay
> Jim Way
> Theobold Watcher
> anonym
> 
> (and on the odd occasion: Rage Coldfield; Neal Barker; David The Supt.; 
> something about condiments; and anything else that may take my fancy 
> according to the time of day, my alcohol intake and the mood I'm in.)
> 
> But *JAMES FOLLETT*!!!!! Your fucking Raving, Raving - aka Holly. 
> 
> 

Laughing.  Out.  Loud.
-- 
ah
date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 20:55:47 -0500   author:   ah http://mailhide.recaptcha.net/d?k=01-2OAbQS4GprZ1IKMMqKLwg==&c=jHERbZ3KpIa1apL41GE0w7HsKgpqF4Z82UWaLgnb0KU=

Re: Lost Plays   
In message , 
Robert Carnegie  writes

>> Didn't you make off-air recordings of your own plays (even if on
>> cassette)? If not, why not?
>
>If so, why?  I mean, you'll write the thing, you collect the money and
>bugger off.  Now I gather that in practice, from what you revealed in
>a BBC 7 talk, you were on hand for a lot of the recording work, unless
>I'm confusing you with Jonathan James Moore.

I did make off-air cassette recordings of everything. But over the 
years, tapes disappeared. This was largely due to my cavalier attitude 
to them: usually lending them, not making a record of who had borrowed 
them, and so not chasing up their return. Some tapes suffered horrible 
pre-through, and some had gotten just plain lost.

One ninety minute play I've kept quiet about because I'd rather it 
stayed 'not in archive'.
-- 
James Follett. Novelist. (G1LXP) http://www.jamesfollett.dswilliams.co.uk
Power Corp are to make a movie of James Follett's ICE.
http://scripts.digicc.com/powtv/prog_synopsis.php?id=655
date: Sun, 2 Dec 2007 02:48:59 +0000   author:   JF

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