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date: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 21:56:20 GMT,    group: uk.media.radio.bbc-r4        back       
Information required on Orson Welles role in JFK asassination   
Welles had asked the English actor David Niven to teach him the art of
handling weapons.  There was not much chance of Welles shooting a
moving President from range.

Winton Churchill wanted revenge on Joe Kennedy due to Old Joe wanting
Britain to be conquered by Nazi Germany in light of his Irish
Republican ideals.

Welles was roughed up on 2 occasions by Kennedy's goons at the bequest
of WR Hearst the media tycoon.  Errol Flynn was the man who recruited
Welles for Churchill and Flynn would die in mysterious circumstances at
home in the 1950's.

A stuntman attempted to beat Welles up at Romanoff's restaurant but
Welles was seen fleeing with what resembled a large map of Africa on
the seat of his pants.  He was due to meet Flynn and it was from Flynn
that Welles picked up the nickname "Sanders Of The River" due to the
stain which resembled the aforementioned continent.

Did Welles fire the shot that killed JFK ? That is debatable  because
there were 4 shooters in Dealy Plaza on that day.  I personally hold
that Oswald fired and missed as well but the shots that killed the
President were fired from the picket fence.

I have more to follow....

-- 
Count Baldoni
date: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 21:56:20 GMT   author:   Baldoni

Re: Information required on Orson Welles role in JFK asassination   
Baldoni wrote:
> Welles had asked the English actor David Niven to teach him the art of
> handling weapons.  There was not much chance of Welles shooting a
> moving President from range.
> 
> Winton Churchill wanted revenge on Joe Kennedy due to Old Joe wanting
> Britain to be conquered by Nazi Germany in light of his Irish
> Republican ideals.
> 
> Welles was roughed up on 2 occasions by Kennedy's goons at the bequest
> of WR Hearst the media tycoon.  Errol Flynn was the man who recruited
> Welles for Churchill and Flynn would die in mysterious circumstances at
> home in the 1950's.
> 
> A stuntman attempted to beat Welles up at Romanoff's restaurant but
> Welles was seen fleeing with what resembled a large map of Africa on
> the seat of his pants.  He was due to meet Flynn and it was from Flynn
> that Welles picked up the nickname "Sanders Of The River" due to the
> stain which resembled the aforementioned continent.
> 
> Did Welles fire the shot that killed JFK ? That is debatable  because
> there were 4 shooters in Dealy Plaza on that day.  I personally hold
> that Oswald fired and missed as well but the shots that killed the
> President were fired from the picket fence.
> 
> I have more to follow....

Yes please...

<where IS that popcorn?>
date: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 22:21:24 +0000   author:   JNugent

Re: Information required on Orson Welles role in JFK asassination   
"JNugent"  wrote in message 
news:OJudnTiHUbv2lrjanZ2dnUVZ8tjinZ2d@pipex.net...
> Baldoni wrote:
>> Welles had asked the English actor David Niven to teach him the art of
>> handling weapons.  There was not much chance of Welles shooting a
>> moving President from range.
>>
>> Winton Churchill wanted revenge on Joe Kennedy due to Old Joe wanting
>> Britain to be conquered by Nazi Germany in light of his Irish
>> Republican ideals.
>>
>> Welles was roughed up on 2 occasions by Kennedy's goons at the bequest
>> of WR Hearst the media tycoon.  Errol Flynn was the man who recruited
>> Welles for Churchill and Flynn would die in mysterious circumstances at
>> home in the 1950's.
>>
>> A stuntman attempted to beat Welles up at Romanoff's restaurant but
>> Welles was seen fleeing with what resembled a large map of Africa on
>> the seat of his pants.  He was due to meet Flynn and it was from Flynn
>> that Welles picked up the nickname "Sanders Of The River" due to the
>> stain which resembled the aforementioned continent.
>>
>> Did Welles fire the shot that killed JFK ? That is debatable  because
>> there were 4 shooters in Dealy Plaza on that day.  I personally hold
>> that Oswald fired and missed as well but the shots that killed the
>> President were fired from the picket fence.
>>
>> I have more to follow....
>
> Yes please...
>
> <where IS that popcorn?>

Followed by a cigar and a glass of fine oloroso!
date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 17:37:08 GMT   author:   Ivan ivan'H'

Re: Information required on Orson Welles role in JFK asassination   
"Baldoni"  wrote in message 
news:mn.e5247d7aba025052.81063@gmail.com...
> Welles had asked the English actor David Niven to teach him the art of
> handling weapons.  There was not much chance of Welles shooting a
> moving President from range.
>
> Winton Churchill wanted revenge on Joe Kennedy due to Old Joe wanting
> Britain to be conquered by Nazi Germany in light of his Irish
> Republican ideals.
>
> Welles was roughed up on 2 occasions by Kennedy's goons at the bequest
> of WR Hearst the media tycoon.  Errol Flynn was the man who recruited
> Welles for Churchill and Flynn would die in mysterious circumstances at
> home in the 1950's.
>
> A stuntman attempted to beat Welles up at Romanoff's restaurant but
> Welles was seen fleeing with what resembled a large map of Africa on
> the seat of his pants.  He was due to meet Flynn and it was from Flynn
> that Welles picked up the nickname "Sanders Of The River" due to the
> stain which resembled the aforementioned continent.
>
> Did Welles fire the shot that killed JFK ? That is debatable  because
> there were 4 shooters in Dealy Plaza on that day.  I personally hold
> that Oswald fired and missed as well but the shots that killed the
> President were fired from the picket fence.
>
> I have more to follow....
>
> -- 
> Count Baldoni
>
>Cunt Balloni mere like ,fuck off loon
G
date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 09:28:08 -0000   author:   GMK

Re: Information required on Orson Welles role in JFK asassination   
on 30/10/2007, GMK supposed :
> "Baldoni"  wrote in message 
> news:mn.e5247d7aba025052.81063@gmail.com...
>> Welles had asked the English actor David Niven to teach him the art of
>> handling weapons.  There was not much chance of Welles shooting a
>> moving President from range.
>>
>> Winton Churchill wanted revenge on Joe Kennedy due to Old Joe wanting
>> Britain to be conquered by Nazi Germany in light of his Irish
>> Republican ideals.
>>
>> Welles was roughed up on 2 occasions by Kennedy's goons at the bequest
>> of WR Hearst the media tycoon.  Errol Flynn was the man who recruited
>> Welles for Churchill and Flynn would die in mysterious circumstances at
>> home in the 1950's.
>>
>> A stuntman attempted to beat Welles up at Romanoff's restaurant but
>> Welles was seen fleeing with what resembled a large map of Africa on
>> the seat of his pants.  He was due to meet Flynn and it was from Flynn
>> that Welles picked up the nickname "Sanders Of The River" due to the
>> stain which resembled the aforementioned continent.
>>
>> Did Welles fire the shot that killed JFK ? That is debatable  because
>> there were 4 shooters in Dealy Plaza on that day.  I personally hold
>> that Oswald fired and missed as well but the shots that killed the
>> President were fired from the picket fence.
>>
>> I have more to follow....
>>
>> -- Count Baldoni
>>
>>Cunt Balloni mere like ,fuck off loon
> G

That is not the sort of language I would expect from one who listens to 
BBC Radio 4.  Have a bit of respect for the nobility and do not dismiss 
offhand something that you know nothing about.

-- 
Count Baldoni
date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 20:37:16 GMT   author:   Baldoni

Re: Information required on Orson Welles role in JFK asassination   
"Baldoni"  wrote in message 
news:mn.f4d57d7a3df541ac.81063@gmail.com...
> on 30/10/2007, GMK supposed :
>> "Baldoni"  wrote in message 
>> news:mn.e5247d7aba025052.81063@gmail.com...
>>> Welles had asked the English actor David Niven to teach him the art of
>>> handling weapons.  There was not much chance of Welles shooting a
>>> moving President from range.
>>>
>>> Winton Churchill wanted revenge on Joe Kennedy due to Old Joe wanting
>>> Britain to be conquered by Nazi Germany in light of his Irish
>>> Republican ideals.
>>>
>>> Welles was roughed up on 2 occasions by Kennedy's goons at the bequest
>>> of WR Hearst the media tycoon.  Errol Flynn was the man who recruited
>>> Welles for Churchill and Flynn would die in mysterious circumstances at
>>> home in the 1950's.
>>>
>>> A stuntman attempted to beat Welles up at Romanoff's restaurant but
>>> Welles was seen fleeing with what resembled a large map of Africa on
>>> the seat of his pants.  He was due to meet Flynn and it was from Flynn
>>> that Welles picked up the nickname "Sanders Of The River" due to the
>>> stain which resembled the aforementioned continent.
>>>
>>> Did Welles fire the shot that killed JFK ? That is debatable  because
>>> there were 4 shooters in Dealy Plaza on that day.  I personally hold
>>> that Oswald fired and missed as well but the shots that killed the
>>> President were fired from the picket fence.
>>>
>>> I have more to follow....
>>>
>>> -- Count Baldoni
>>>
>>>Cunt Balloni mere like ,fuck off loon
>> G
>
> That is not the sort of language I would expect from one who listens to 
> BBC Radio 4.  Have a bit of respect for the nobility and do not dismiss 
> offhand something that you know nothing about.
>
> -- 
> Count Baldoni
>
>Well Balloni you are more cunt than Count ,secondly all sorts listen to R4 
>,and what the fuck has this got to do with R4?
>You say there were 4 shooters a dealy Plazza and that Orson Welles
may have takes a pot shot a JFK! Two words FUCK OFF.
Where is your evidence ,just because you type it doesnt make it so.
G
date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 14:53:18 -0000   author:   GMK

Re: Information required on Orson Welles role in JFK asassination   
GMK used his keyboard to write :
> "Baldoni"  wrote in message 
> news:mn.f4d57d7a3df541ac.81063@gmail.com...
>> on 30/10/2007, GMK supposed :
>>> "Baldoni"  wrote in message 
>>> news:mn.e5247d7aba025052.81063@gmail.com...
>>>> Welles had asked the English actor David Niven to teach him the art of
>>>> handling weapons.  There was not much chance of Welles shooting a
>>>> moving President from range.
>>>>
>>>> Winton Churchill wanted revenge on Joe Kennedy due to Old Joe wanting
>>>> Britain to be conquered by Nazi Germany in light of his Irish
>>>> Republican ideals.
>>>>
>>>> Welles was roughed up on 2 occasions by Kennedy's goons at the bequest
>>>> of WR Hearst the media tycoon.  Errol Flynn was the man who recruited
>>>> Welles for Churchill and Flynn would die in mysterious circumstances at
>>>> home in the 1950's.
>>>>
>>>> A stuntman attempted to beat Welles up at Romanoff's restaurant but
>>>> Welles was seen fleeing with what resembled a large map of Africa on
>>>> the seat of his pants.  He was due to meet Flynn and it was from Flynn
>>>> that Welles picked up the nickname "Sanders Of The River" due to the
>>>> stain which resembled the aforementioned continent.
>>>>
>>>> Did Welles fire the shot that killed JFK ? That is debatable  because
>>>> there were 4 shooters in Dealy Plaza on that day.  I personally hold
>>>> that Oswald fired and missed as well but the shots that killed the
>>>> President were fired from the picket fence.
>>>>
>>>> I have more to follow....
>>>>
>>>> -- Count Baldoni
>>>>
>>>>Cunt Balloni mere like ,fuck off loon
>>> G
>>
>> That is not the sort of language I would expect from one who listens to BBC 
>> Radio 4.  Have a bit of respect for the nobility and do not dismiss offhand 
>> something that you know nothing about.
>>
>> -- Count Baldoni
>>
>>Well Balloni you are more cunt than Count ,secondly all sorts listen to R4 
>> ,and what the fuck has this got to do with R4?
>>You say there were 4 shooters a dealy Plazza and that Orson Welles
> may have takes a pot shot a JFK! Two words FUCK OFF.
> Where is your evidence ,just because you type it doesnt make it so.
> G

I have been in discussion with the BBC regarding this as part of my 
research.  Did you not know that Welles had a long association with BBC 
Radio ?

Mind your language.

-- 
Count Baldoni
date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 21:53:41 GMT   author:   Baldoni

Re: Information required on Orson Welles role in JFK asassination   
X-No-Archive: yes

In message , Baldoni 
 writes

>I have been in discussion with the BBC regarding this as part of my 
>research.  Did you not know that Welles had a long association with BBC 
>Radio ?

I've often thought that I'd like to hear a recording of Mr Welles's 'War 
of the Worlds' radio drama. Mercury Theater wasn't it? It's probably 
available from Radio Memories or similar. Must be one of those classics 
of radio drama like Andrew Sachs's 'The Revenge', or 'The Tor Sands 
Terror'.

-- 
James Follett. Novelist. (G1LXP) http://www.jamesfollett.dswilliams.co.uk
Bloody Earthsearch on BBC7 every weekend for nearly six months and now Power
Corp are to make a movie of Follett's ICE.
http://scripts.digicc.com/powtv/prog_synopsis.php?id=655
date: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 02:13:11 +0000   author:   james

Re: Information required on Orson Welles role in JFK asassination   
james explained on 01/11/2007 :
> X-No-Archive: yes
>
> In message , Baldoni 
>  writes
>
>>I have been in discussion with the BBC regarding this as part of my 
>> research.  Did you not know that Welles had a long association with BBC 
>> Radio ?
>
> I've often thought that I'd like to hear a recording of Mr Welles's 'War of 
> the Worlds' radio drama. Mercury Theater wasn't it? It's probably available 
> from Radio Memories or similar. Must be one of those classics of radio drama 
> like Andrew Sachs's 'The Revenge', or 'The Tor Sands Terror'.

Yes a classic and I recall on an old interview that about 50% of the 
people in the part of New Jersey where it was broadcast panicked.  In 
fairness to Welles it was clearly stated before the broadcast that it 
was a work of fiction.  The problem was people as is normal, tuned into 
the station after the announcement had been made and the broadcast was 
in full sway.

-- 
Count Baldoni
date: Thu, 01 Nov 2007 09:39:33 GMT   author:   Baldoni

Re: Information required on Orson Welles role in JFK asassination   
"Baldoni"  wrote in message 
news:mn.fd217d7ab34da141.81063@gmail.com...
> GMK used his keyboard to write :
>> "Baldoni"  wrote in message 
>> news:mn.f4d57d7a3df541ac.81063@gmail.com...
>>> on 30/10/2007, GMK supposed :
>>>> "Baldoni"  wrote in message 
>>>> news:mn.e5247d7aba025052.81063@gmail.com...
>>>>> Welles had asked the English actor David Niven to teach him the art of
>>>>> handling weapons.  There was not much chance of Welles shooting a
>>>>> moving President from range.
>>>>>
>>>>> Winton Churchill wanted revenge on Joe Kennedy due to Old Joe wanting
>>>>> Britain to be conquered by Nazi Germany in light of his Irish
>>>>> Republican ideals.
>>>>>
>>>>> Welles was roughed up on 2 occasions by Kennedy's goons at the bequest
>>>>> of WR Hearst the media tycoon.  Errol Flynn was the man who recruited
>>>>> Welles for Churchill and Flynn would die in mysterious circumstances 
>>>>> at
>>>>> home in the 1950's.
>>>>>
>>>>> A stuntman attempted to beat Welles up at Romanoff's restaurant but
>>>>> Welles was seen fleeing with what resembled a large map of Africa on
>>>>> the seat of his pants.  He was due to meet Flynn and it was from Flynn
>>>>> that Welles picked up the nickname "Sanders Of The River" due to the
>>>>> stain which resembled the aforementioned continent.
>>>>>
>>>>> Did Welles fire the shot that killed JFK ? That is debatable  because
>>>>> there were 4 shooters in Dealy Plaza on that day.  I personally hold
>>>>> that Oswald fired and missed as well but the shots that killed the
>>>>> President were fired from the picket fence.
>>>>>
>>>>> I have more to follow....
>>>>>
>>>>> -- Count Baldoni
>>>>>
>>>>>Cunt Balloni mere like ,fuck off loon
>>>> G
>>>
>>> That is not the sort of language I would expect from one who listens to 
>>> BBC Radio 4.  Have a bit of respect for the nobility and do not dismiss 
>>> offhand something that you know nothing about.
>>>
>>> -- Count Baldoni
>>>
>>>Well Balloni you are more cunt than Count ,secondly all sorts listen to 
>>>R4 ,and what the fuck has this got to do with R4?
>>>You say there were 4 shooters a dealy Plazza and that Orson Welles
>> may have takes a pot shot a JFK! Two words FUCK OFF.
>> Where is your evidence ,just because you type it doesnt make it so.
>> G
>
> I have been in discussion with the BBC regarding this as part of my 
> research.  Did you not know that Welles had a long association with BBC 
> Radio ?
>
> Mind your language.
>
> -- 
> Count Baldoni
>
>So he had a long association with Sandermans Port ,
>what the fuck has that got to do with anything?
>G
date: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 09:42:39 -0000   author:   GMK

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