Yep, SK has taken two weeks leave so Aled Jones is sitting in for her this 
and next week. He sounds quite good in the morning, lets hope that one day 
someone will finally realise this!!

Thus spake Neil (nobody@nospam.net) unto the assembled multitudes:
> Yep, SK has taken two weeks leave so Aled Jones is sitting in for her this 
> and next week. He sounds quite good in the morning, lets hope that one day 
> someone will finally realise this!!

I find AJ mildly irritating, but he's certainly better than old airhead.

It's nice to have Johnnie Walker sitting in for Terry Wogan for a couple of
weeks.  I still miss JW's evening Drivetime show, but it was his decision
to give it up after all.  It's just a pity that they brought in a c*** like
Chris Evans.


-- 
                                 Andy Clews
                            University of Sussex
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A.Clews@DENTURESsussex.ac.uk wrote:
> Thus spake Neil (nobody@nospam.net) unto the assembled multitudes:
>> Yep, SK has taken two weeks leave so Aled Jones is sitting in for her this 
>> and next week. He sounds quite good in the morning, lets hope that one day 
>> someone will finally realise this!!
> 
> I find AJ mildly irritating, but he's certainly better than old airhead.
> 
> It's nice to have Johnnie Walker sitting in for Terry Wogan for a couple of
> weeks.  I still miss JW's evening Drivetime show, but it was his decision
> to give it up after all.  It's just a pity that they brought in a c*** like
> Chris Evans.
> 
> 
Aled Jones is usually entertaining to me, as Is Johnnie Walker, although 
he does get a little difficult to listen to sometimes, seeming to push 
just a bit too far. I also get cross with the beatification I read of 
him on various NGs.

Thus spake dennis@fake (dennis@fake) unto the assembled multitudes:

> Aled Jones is usually entertaining to me, as Is Johnnie Walker, although 
> he does get a little difficult to listen to sometimes, seeming to push 
> just a bit too far. I also get cross with the beatification I read of 
> him on various NGs.

It's a little ambiguous whether you're referring to AJ or JW here, but
although I've seen praise heaped on JW in various places, I've never heard
people refer to him as a saint, which he sure isn't (thank goodness).  He's
flawed and has paid for those flaws over the years, but he brings a unique
warmth and the human touch to his broadcasting.  AJ isn't quite seasoned or
experienced enough yet, but with time I think he could get there.

Andy

-- 
                                 Andy Clews
                            University of Sussex
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A.Clews@DENTURESsussex.ac.uk wrote:
> Thus spake dennis@fake (dennis@fake) unto the assembled multitudes:
> 
>> Aled Jones is usually entertaining to me, as Is Johnnie Walker, although 
>> he does get a little difficult to listen to sometimes, seeming to push 
>> just a bit too far. I also get cross with the beatification I read of 
>> him on various NGs.
> 
> It's a little ambiguous whether you're referring to AJ or JW here, but
> although I've seen praise heaped on JW in various places, I've never heard
> people refer to him as a saint, which he sure isn't (thank goodness).  He's
> flawed and has paid for those flaws over the years, but he brings a unique
> warmth and the human touch to his broadcasting.  AJ isn't quite seasoned or
> experienced enough yet, but with time I think he could get there.
> 
> Andy
> 
JW was the subject, sorry for the poor grammar. I feel he is seen as 
beyond criticism by some, as is Wogan the Queen Mother of Broadcasting.

On Wed, 14 May 2008 10:40:02 +0000 (UTC), A.Clews@DENTURESsussex.ac.uk
wrote:

> It's just a pity that they brought in a c*** like
>Chris Evans.

You'll be glad to know then that after the bank holiday he's off for a
couple of weeks and Stuart Maconie is covering.

Nigel
replace SPAMHATER with n and t*sc*li with totalise

Thus spake Nigel (SPAMHATERepper@tiscali.co.uk) unto the assembled multitudes:

>> It's just a pity that they brought in a c*** like
>>Chris Evans.

> You'll be glad to know then that after the bank holiday he's off for a
> couple of weeks and Stuart Maconie is covering.

Excellent.  I've got a lot of time for Stuart Maconie.   I nearly wrote just
"SM" but didn't want to give the wrong impression :-)

-- 
                                 Andy Clews
                            University of Sussex
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Nigel wrote:
> On Wed, 14 May 2008 10:40:02 +0000 (UTC), A.Clews@DENTURESsussex.ac.uk
> wrote:
>
>> It's just a pity that they brought in a c*** like
>> Chris Evans.
>
> You'll be glad to know then that after the bank holiday he's off for a
> couple of weeks and Stuart Maconie is covering.

Damn! That means we'll be missing him sparring with Mark Radcliffe in the 
evenings again.

"Jack Taylor"  writes:

> Nigel wrote:
>> On Wed, 14 May 2008 10:40:02 +0000 (UTC), A.Clews@DENTURESsussex.ac.uk
>> wrote:
>>
>>> It's just a pity that they brought in a c*** like
>>> Chris Evans.
>>
>> You'll be glad to know then that after the bank holiday he's off for a
>> couple of weeks and Stuart Maconie is covering.
>
> Damn! That means we'll be missing him sparring with Mark Radcliffe in
> the evenings again.

"Sparring" seems rather too energetic a term.

-- 
hope it don't rain all day

Thus spake Jack Taylor (Jack@carney.co.uk) unto the assembled multitudes:
>> You'll be glad to know then that after the bank holiday he's off for a
>> couple of weeks and Stuart Maconie is covering.

> Damn! That means we'll be missing him sparring with Mark Radcliffe in the 
> evenings again. 

I really must get back into listening to MR's show.  I used to enjoy it
when he presented it alone (though usually with a guest such as Noddy
Holder) and later at night so I could listen before drifting off into
slumberland.  With MR and SM together it still isn't a bad show, but I just
don't get to listen in enough. Perhaps I should give it another go whenever
there's nothing worth watching on the telly.


-- 
                                 Andy Clews
                            University of Sussex
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On Wed, 14 May 2008 10:40:02 +0000 (UTC), A.Clews@DENTURESsussex.ac.uk
wrote:

>Thus spake Neil (nobody@nospam.net) unto the assembled multitudes:
>> Yep, SK has taken two weeks leave so Aled Jones is sitting in for her this 
>> and next week. He sounds quite good in the morning, lets hope that one day 
>> someone will finally realise this!!
>
>I find AJ mildly irritating, but he's certainly better than old airhead.
>
>It's nice to have Johnnie Walker sitting in for Terry Wogan for a couple of
>weeks.  I still miss JW's evening Drivetime show, but it was his decision
>to give it up after all.  It's just a pity that they brought in a c*** like
>Chris Evans.

I find Aled Jones very irritating, but totally agree otherwise.

In article <g0efi2$8t3$1@south.jnrs.ja.net>, 
A.Clews@DENTURESsussex.ac.uk says...
> Thus spake Neil (nobody@nospam.net) unto the assembled multitudes:
> > Yep, SK has taken two weeks leave so Aled Jones is sitting in for her this 
> > and next week. He sounds quite good in the morning, lets hope that one day 
> > someone will finally realise this!!
> 
> I find AJ mildly irritating, but he's certainly better than old airhead.
> 
> It's nice to have Johnnie Walker sitting in for Terry Wogan for a couple of
> weeks.  I still miss JW's evening Drivetime show, but it was his decision
> to give it up after all.  It's just a pity that they brought in a c*** like
> Chris Evans.

I don't miss JW in the evenings. I'm not thrilled with CE but I don't 
miss JW. I'm afraid this week we've been turning JW off in the mornings. 
The music he plays is ace, but stuck in traffic queues we can hear what 
he's saying and frankly he comes across as patronising and sexist.

In article , 
SPAMHATERepper@tiscali.co.uk says...
> On Wed, 14 May 2008 10:40:02 +0000 (UTC), A.Clews@DENTURESsussex.ac.uk
> wrote:
> 
> > It's just a pity that they brought in a c*** like
> >Chris Evans.
> 
> You'll be glad to know then that after the bank holiday he's off for a
> couple of weeks and Stuart Maconie is covering.

Ah, you've made my day!

"Amethyst Deceiver"  wrote in message 
news:MPG.22962e80ffca6a698998d@news.individual.de...
> In article <g0efi2$8t3$1@south.jnrs.ja.net>,
> A.Clews@DENTURESsussex.ac.uk says...
>> Thus spake Neil (nobody@nospam.net) unto the assembled multitudes:
>> > Yep, SK has taken two weeks leave so Aled Jones is sitting in for her 
>> > this
>> > and next week. He sounds quite good in the morning, lets hope that one 
>> > day
>> > someone will finally realise this!!
>>
>> I find AJ mildly irritating, but he's certainly better than old airhead.
>>
>> It's nice to have Johnnie Walker sitting in for Terry Wogan for a couple 
>> of
>> weeks.  I still miss JW's evening Drivetime show, but it was his decision
>> to give it up after all.  It's just a pity that they brought in a c*** 
>> like
>> Chris Evans.
>
> I don't miss JW in the evenings. I'm not thrilled with CE but I don't
> miss JW. I'm afraid this week we've been turning JW off in the mornings.
> The music he plays is ace, but stuck in traffic queues we can hear what
> he's saying and frankly he comes across as patronising and sexist.

That's not untrue, but I wouldn't say it was untrue of the regular incumbent 
either, so I'd have thought you buy into that sort of thing if you listen at 
that time.

    Chris

A.Clews@DENTURESsussex.ac.uk wrote:
>
> I really must get back into listening to MR's show.  I used to enjoy
> it when he presented it alone (though usually with a guest such as
> Noddy Holder) and later at night so I could listen before drifting
> off into slumberland.  With MR and SM together it still isn't a bad
> show, but I just don't get to listen in enough. Perhaps I should give
> it another go whenever there's nothing worth watching on the telly.

I have the same difficulty. 20:00-22:00 is not the most convenient time. I'm 
usually only just home from work or walking home from the station (in which 
case I do listen on my phone radio - Tuesdays and Wednesdays after Desmond 
Carrington and Mike Harding, respectively, and Mondays and Thursdays after 
an hour of Roger Day on BBC Southern Counties). Once I'm home it tends to be 
food, telly etc.

When MR was first moved to 20:00 I used to ignore the show and then 'Listen 
Again' to it, starting at 22:00, in the traditional slot - but I've got out 
of the habit of doing that, especially as I used to like listening to Simon 
Mayo and Steve Lamacq's specialist shows. Now that they've rejigged all of 
those I suppose that I could go back to listening to MR & SM again. It's 
just remembering and getting back into the habit that's the problem!

BTW, Noddy Holder still puts in his regular TV review appearances every 
couple of weeks.

Thus spake Jack Taylor (Jack@carney.co.uk) unto the assembled multitudes:

>> off into slumberland.  With MR and SM together it still isn't a bad
>> show, but I just don't get to listen in enough. Perhaps I should give
>> it another go whenever there's nothing worth watching on the telly.

> I have the same difficulty. 20:00-22:00 is not the most convenient time. I'm 
> usually only just home from work or walking home from the station (in which 
> case I do listen on my phone radio - Tuesdays and Wednesdays after Desmond 
> Carrington and Mike Harding, respectively, and Mondays and Thursdays after 
> an hour of Roger Day on BBC Southern Counties). Once I'm home it tends to be 
> food, telly etc.

I caught about 20 minutes of the MR/SM show last night with a bit of Jack
Bruce on the way home from a bowls match, via a pub to drown our sorrows
(non-alcoholicly) having lost.  It was enjoyable enough to make me think
about tuning in of an evening more often.

> BTW, Noddy Holder still puts in his regular TV review appearances every 
> couple of weeks. 

Yes, I have heard him on the show a few times but I just don't listen in
regularly enough.  Must try harder ;-)


-- 
                                 Andy Clews
                            University of Sussex
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In article <g0i4gr$gcb$1@inews.gazeta.pl>, extremespamrice@yahoo.com 
says...
> 
> "Amethyst Deceiver"  wrote in message 
> news:MPG.22962e80ffca6a698998d@news.individual.de...

> > I don't miss JW in the evenings. I'm not thrilled with CE but I don't
> > miss JW. I'm afraid this week we've been turning JW off in the mornings.
> > The music he plays is ace, but stuck in traffic queues we can hear what
> > he's saying and frankly he comes across as patronising and sexist.
> 
> That's not untrue, but I wouldn't say it was untrue of the regular incumbent 
> either, so I'd have thought you buy into that sort of thing if you listen at 
> that time.

I've been known to turn off Wogan too, but not half as often as JW. I 
don't know, but TW seems to do it to tease whereas JW just comes across 
as rude.

Amethyst Deceiver wrote:
> In article , 
> SPAMHATERepper@tiscali.co.uk says...
>> On Wed, 14 May 2008 10:40:02 +0000 (UTC), A.Clews@DENTURESsussex.ac.uk
>> wrote:
>>
>>> It's just a pity that they brought in a c*** like
>>> Chris Evans.
>> You'll be glad to know then that after the bank holiday he's off for a
>> couple of weeks and Stuart Maconie is covering.
> 
> Ah, you've made my day!

 From what I heard this morning RA's in for CE tonight too - he must 
have gone on his hols a bit early...

M

In article <g0k3ao$79c$1@south.jnrs.ja.net>, m.sapsed@deadspam.com 
says...
> Amethyst Deceiver wrote:
> > In article , 
> > SPAMHATERepper@tiscali.co.uk says...
> >> On Wed, 14 May 2008 10:40:02 +0000 (UTC), A.Clews@DENTURESsussex.ac.uk
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> It's just a pity that they brought in a c*** like
> >>> Chris Evans.
> >> You'll be glad to know then that after the bank holiday he's off for a
> >> couple of weeks and Stuart Maconie is covering.
> > 
> > Ah, you've made my day!
> 
>  From what I heard this morning RA's in for CE tonight too - he must 
> have gone on his hols a bit early...

Fridays are a bit different - I'd be chuffed, but we go swimming after 
work and get back to the car about the right time for The News Quiz, 
which is a wonderful half-hour if we can get the 4yo to nap through it!

Thus spake Amethyst Deceiver (spam@lindsayendell.co.uk) unto the assembled multitudes:

> I've been known to turn off Wogan too, but not half as often as JW. I 
> don't know, but TW seems to do it to tease whereas JW just comes across 
> as rude.

I never get that impression of JW.   IMHO the laddishness is all
tongue-in-cheek.  Perhaps it's a man thing ;-)

-- 
                                 Andy Clews
                            University of Sussex
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On Wed, 14 May 2008 20:58:36 +0100, Nigel
 wrote:

>On Wed, 14 May 2008 10:40:02 +0000 (UTC), A.Clews@DENTURESsussex.ac.uk
>wrote:
>
>> It's just a pity that they brought in a c*** like
>>Chris Evans.
>
>You'll be glad to know then that after the bank holiday he's off for a
>couple of weeks and Stuart Maconie is covering.

Let joy be uncomfined/ Why can't Maconie be on 'all' the time?

"Mike Plowman"  wrote in message 
news:rb6034hg9bkgglelealgqoqnvmvq243r7c@4ax.com...
> On Wed, 14 May 2008 20:58:36 +0100, Nigel
>  wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 14 May 2008 10:40:02 +0000 (UTC), A.Clews@DENTURESsussex.ac.uk
>>wrote:
>>
>>> It's just a pity that they brought in a c*** like
>>>Chris Evans.
>>
>>You'll be glad to know then that after the bank holiday he's off for a
>>couple of weeks and Stuart Maconie is covering.
>
> Let joy be uncomfined/ Why can't Maconie be on 'all' the time?

aol


-- 
J B

Martin Sapsed wrote:
> Amethyst Deceiver wrote:
>> In article , 
>> SPAMHATERepper@tiscali.co.uk says...
>>> On Wed, 14 May 2008 10:40:02 +0000 (UTC), A.Clews@DENTURESsussex.ac.uk
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> It's just a pity that they brought in a c*** like
>>>> Chris Evans.
>>> You'll be glad to know then that after the bank holiday he's off for a
>>> couple of weeks and Stuart Maconie is covering.
>>
>> Ah, you've made my day!
> 
>  From what I heard this morning RA's in for CE tonight too - he must 
> have gone on his hols a bit early...

Ah - so that's where he went on his day off...

http://cars.uk.msn.com/News/car_news_article.aspx?cp-documentid=8330588

"Nigel"  wrote in message 
news:d1hm24pio2ns6fobpboqqk479fvnsjahm4@4ax.com...

> You'll be glad to know then that after the bank holiday he's off for a
> couple of weeks and Stuart Maconie is covering.

Just looked back at this message and realise I misread it  :-(

Planned my day to listen to SM this afternoon and then that Ginger T**t was 
still on.

:-(


-- 
J B

"Nigel"  wrote in message 
news:d1hm24pio2ns6fobpboqqk479fvnsjahm4@4ax.com...
>> It's just a pity that they brought in a c*** like
>>Chris Evans.
>
> You'll be glad to know then that after the bank holiday he's off for a
> couple of weeks and Stuart Maconie is covering.

The R2 website says the ginger t**t is still on??????????

:-(


-- 
J B

In article , jb@invalid.com says...
> "Nigel"  wrote in message 
> news:d1hm24pio2ns6fobpboqqk479fvnsjahm4@4ax.com...
> >> It's just a pity that they brought in a c*** like
> >>Chris Evans.
> >
> > You'll be glad to know then that after the bank holiday he's off for a
> > couple of weeks and Stuart Maconie is covering.
> 
> The R2 website says the ginger t**t is still on??????????

Not just the website. My radio was pretty certain at 5pm yesterday. The 
CDs are getting a lot of listening.

On Wed, 28 May 2008 10:38:14 +0100, Amethyst Deceiver
 wrote:

>In article , jb@invalid.com says...
>> "Nigel"  wrote in message 
>> news:d1hm24pio2ns6fobpboqqk479fvnsjahm4@4ax.com...
>> >> It's just a pity that they brought in a c*** like
>> >>Chris Evans.
>> >
>> > You'll be glad to know then that after the bank holiday he's off for a
>> > couple of weeks and Stuart Maconie is covering.
>> 
>> The R2 website says the ginger t**t is still on??????????
>
>Not just the website. My radio was pretty certain at 5pm yesterday. The 
>CDs are getting a lot of listening.

Well all I can say is that I reported what Maconie said live on his
first show back with Radcliffe after Radcliffe's return from the
afternnon shift.

The ginger one must have changed his holiday plans.

Nigel
replace SPAMHATER with n and t*sc*li with totalise

In article , 
SPAMHATERepper@tiscali.co.uk says...
> On Wed, 28 May 2008 10:38:14 +0100, Amethyst Deceiver
>  wrote:
> 
> >In article , jb@invalid.com says...
> >> "Nigel"  wrote in message 
> >> news:d1hm24pio2ns6fobpboqqk479fvnsjahm4@4ax.com...
> >> >> It's just a pity that they brought in a c*** like
> >> >>Chris Evans.
> >> >
> >> > You'll be glad to know then that after the bank holiday he's off for a
> >> > couple of weeks and Stuart Maconie is covering.
> >> 
> >> The R2 website says the ginger t**t is still on??????????
> >
> >Not just the website. My radio was pretty certain at 5pm yesterday. The 
> >CDs are getting a lot of listening.
> 
> Well all I can say is that I reported what Maconie said live on his
> first show back with Radcliffe after Radcliffe's return from the
> afternnon shift.

I'm not blaming you. But I had my hopes up. I bet Evans is on holiday, 
the same time I am, so I miss Maconie. That's what usually happens!

Amethyst Deceiver wrote:
> In article , 
> SPAMHATERepper@tiscali.co.uk says...
>> On Wed, 28 May 2008 10:38:14 +0100, Amethyst Deceiver
>>  wrote:
>>
>>> In article , jb@invalid.com says...
>>>> "Nigel"  wrote in message 
>>>> news:d1hm24pio2ns6fobpboqqk479fvnsjahm4@4ax.com...
>>>>>> It's just a pity that they brought in a c*** like
>>>>>> Chris Evans.
>>>>> You'll be glad to know then that after the bank holiday he's off for a
>>>>> couple of weeks and Stuart Maconie is covering.
>>>> The R2 website says the ginger t**t is still on??????????
>>> Not just the website. My radio was pretty certain at 5pm yesterday. The 
>>> CDs are getting a lot of listening.
>> Well all I can say is that I reported what Maconie said live on his
>> first show back with Radcliffe after Radcliffe's return from the
>> afternnon shift.
> 
> I'm not blaming you. But I had my hopes up. I bet Evans is on holiday, 
> the same time I am, so I miss Maconie. That's what usually happens!

According to radiotimes.com, Maconie's on next week.

In article <g1m986$8b$1@south.jnrs.ja.net>, m.sapsed@deadspam.com 
says...
> Amethyst Deceiver wrote:
> > In article , 
> > SPAMHATERepper@tiscali.co.uk says...
> >> On Wed, 28 May 2008 10:38:14 +0100, Amethyst Deceiver
> >>  wrote:
> >>
> >>> In article , jb@invalid.com says...
> >>>> "Nigel"  wrote in message 
> >>>> news:d1hm24pio2ns6fobpboqqk479fvnsjahm4@4ax.com...
> >>>>>> It's just a pity that they brought in a c*** like
> >>>>>> Chris Evans.
> >>>>> You'll be glad to know then that after the bank holiday he's off for a
> >>>>> couple of weeks and Stuart Maconie is covering.
> >>>> The R2 website says the ginger t**t is still on??????????
> >>> Not just the website. My radio was pretty certain at 5pm yesterday. The 
> >>> CDs are getting a lot of listening.
> >> Well all I can say is that I reported what Maconie said live on his
> >> first show back with Radcliffe after Radcliffe's return from the
> >> afternnon shift.
> > 
> > I'm not blaming you. But I had my hopes up. I bet Evans is on holiday, 
> > the same time I am, so I miss Maconie. That's what usually happens!
> 
> According to radiotimes.com, Maconie's on next week.

Rah!

On 16 May, 13:45, Amethyst Deceiver  wrote:
> In article <g0i4gr$gc...@inews.gazeta.pl>, extremespamr...@yahoo.com
> says...
>
>
>
> > "Amethyst Deceiver"  wrote in message
> >news:MPG.22962e80ffca6a698998d@news.individual.de...
> > > I don't miss JW in the evenings. I'm not thrilled with CE but I don't
> > > miss JW. I'm afraid this week we've been turning JW off in the mornings.
> > > The music he plays is ace, but stuck in traffic queues we can hear what
> > > he's saying and frankly he comes across as patronising and sexist.
>
> > That's not untrue, but I wouldn't say it was untrue of the regular incumbent
> > either, so I'd have thought you buy into that sort of thing if you listen at
> > that time.
>
> I've been known to turn off Wogan too, but not half as often as JW. I
> don't know, but TW seems to do it to tease whereas JW just comes across
> as rude.

I thought about these comments at the time and didn't really agree...
I don't notice Johnny being particularly offensive or opinionated or
having any attitude problem, but having listened in to Wigon's show a
few times lately I was appalled at the innuendo the poor "traffic
totty" has to endure from those sad middle aged men with nothing
better to do who write in to the show every day. *That's* what I call
offenive.

Thus spake 4208fm@googlemail.com (4208fm@googlemail.com) unto the assembled multitudes:

> I thought about these comments at the time and didn't really agree...
> I don't notice Johnny being particularly offensive or opinionated or
> having any attitude problem, but having listened in to Wigon's show a
> few times lately I was appalled at the innuendo the poor "traffic
> totty" has to endure from those sad middle aged men with nothing
> better to do who write in to the show every day. *That's* what I call
> offenive.

Oh, come on!  It's just a bit of harmless fun.   If "poor" Lyn Bowles (or
whoever the day's 'traffic totty' is) didn't think so too she would make it
known to the producers, off air, in no uncertain terms.  If it was truly
offensive people would be complaining and the BBC would tell Wogan to stop
broadcasting the letters.  In any case, Wogan stops short of reading out
anything that's too close to the knuckle.  It's your own imagination that's
offending you, not the stuff that's being broadcast.

-- 
                                 Andy Clews
                            University of Sussex
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On 18 Jun, 08:59, A.Cl...@DENTURESsussex.ac.uk wrote:
> Thus spake 420...@googlemail.com (420...@googlemail.com) unto the assembled multitudes:
>
> > I thought about these comments at the time and didn't really agree...
> > I don't notice Johnny being particularly offensive or opinionated or
> > having any attitude problem, but having listened in to Wigon's show a
> > few times lately I was appalled at the innuendo the poor "traffic
> > totty" has to endure from those sad middle aged men with nothing
> > better to do who write in to the show every day. *That's* what I call
> > offenive.
>
> Oh, come on!  It's just a bit of harmless fun.   If "poor" Lyn Bowles (or
> whoever the day's 'traffic totty' is) didn't think so too she would make it
> known to the producers, off air, in no uncertain terms.  If it was truly
> offensive people would be complaining and the BBC would tell Wogan to stop
> broadcasting the letters.  In any case, Wogan stops short of reading out
> anything that's too close to the knuckle.  It's your own imagination that's
> offending you, not the stuff that's being broadcast.
>
> --
>                                  Andy Clews
>                             University of Sussex
>                  *** Remove DENTURES if replying by email ***

Mr Clews, I rarely find myself disagreeing with you, but here we go.

The bit of my imagination which offends me is the part that suspects
Ms Bowles heart sinks a little as each one of these letters is read
out. I get that impression sometimes listening to her voice. Being a
constant object of fascination for being female, attractive and Welsh
would certainly wear me down after just a little time [though I am
none of the above, unfortunately].

I remember listening in the days she first appeared on the W*g*n show
[why the newsreaders had to replace her previously and why the
arrangement was changed I don't know]. There appeared to be a lot of
tension and hesitancy between them. Then somebody realised she was
Welsh and this tide of letters started. At the time I think it
provided a little relief, but each time I go back for a listen they
are still at it. I would be interested to know whether Ms Bowles
encourages this sort of attention, or whether it's now more like a
rollercoaster going too fast to slam on the brakes.

In this day and age, is there anywhere else a journalist endures this
"harmless" stereotypical public teasing day in, day out before being
allowed to do his/her job?

Thus spake 4208fm@googlemail.com (4208fm@googlemail.com) unto the assembled multitudes:
> Mr Clews, I rarely find myself disagreeing with you, but here we go.

> The bit of my imagination which offends me is the part that suspects
> Ms Bowles heart sinks a little as each one of these letters is read
> out. I get that impression sometimes listening to her voice. Being a
> constant object of fascination for being female, attractive and Welsh
> would certainly wear me down after just a little time [though I am
> none of the above, unfortunately].

> [...]

> In this day and age, is there anywhere else a journalist endures this
> "harmless" stereotypical public teasing day in, day out before being
> allowed to do his/her job?

I don't necessarily disagree with you and you made some perfectly good
points, but I stand by my assertion that if Ms Bowles wasn't happy with the
situation she would have made it known.  I honestly think the
political-correctness brigade have had it their own way for far too long,
and there is plenty of room for playful, teasing banter provided that clear
boundaries are agreed upon and that it does not upset the object of that
banter.

-- 
                                 Andy Clews
                            University of Sussex
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wrote in message 
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> Thus spake 4208fm@googlemail.com (4208fm@googlemail.com) unto the 
> assembled multitudes:
>> Mr Clews, I rarely find myself disagreeing with you, but here we go.
>
>> The bit of my imagination which offends me is the part that suspects
>> Ms Bowles heart sinks a little as each one of these letters is read
>> out. I get that impression sometimes listening to her voice. Being a
>> constant object of fascination for being female, attractive and Welsh
>> would certainly wear me down after just a little time [though I am
>> none of the above, unfortunately].
>
>> [...]
>
>> In this day and age, is there anywhere else a journalist endures this
>> "harmless" stereotypical public teasing day in, day out before being
>> allowed to do his/her job?
>
> I don't necessarily disagree with you and you made some perfectly good
> points, but I stand by my assertion that if Ms Bowles wasn't happy with 
> the
> situation she would have made it known.  I honestly think the
> political-correctness brigade have had it their own way for far too long,
> and there is plenty of room for playful, teasing banter provided that 
> clear
> boundaries are agreed upon and that it does not upset the object of that
> banter.

And she does seem to be quite good at giving it back too!

-- 
Ellie

Thus spake Ellie (ellie@spl.at) unto the assembled multitudes:

>> and there is plenty of room for playful, teasing banter provided that 
>> clear
>> boundaries are agreed upon and that it does not upset the object of that
>> banter.

> And she does seem to be quite good at giving it back too!

You bet she is.  I am certain that Ms Bowles is no pushover.  She certainly
seems like quite a feisty lass.



-- 
                                 Andy Clews
                            University of Sussex
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In article <g3egff$pt3$1@south.jnrs.ja.net>, 
A.Clews@DENTURESsussex.ac.uk says...
> Thus spake Ellie (ellie@spl.at) unto the assembled multitudes:
> 
> >> and there is plenty of room for playful, teasing banter provided that 
> >> clear
> >> boundaries are agreed upon and that it does not upset the object of that
> >> banter.
> 
> > And she does seem to be quite good at giving it back too!
> 
> You bet she is.  I am certain that Ms Bowles is no pushover.  She certainly
> seems like quite a feisty lass.

She laughed at some of the comments made this morning - not a forced 
laughed and she was off-mic so obviously wasn't primed to expect the 
comments.

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> Thus spake Neil (nobody@nospam.net) unto the assembled multitudes:
>> Yep, SK has taken two weeks leave so Aled Jones is sitting in for her 
>> this
>> and next week. He sounds quite good in the morning, lets hope that one 
>> day
>> someone will finally realise this!!
>
> I find AJ mildly irritating, but he's certainly better than old airhead.
>
> It's nice to have Johnnie Walker sitting in for Terry Wogan for a couple 
> of
> weeks.  I still miss JW's evening Drivetime show, but it was his decision
> to give it up after all.  It's just a pity that they brought in a c*** 
> like
> Chris Evans.
>


JW is the only one I would deliberately tune in for the rest (aside from SK 
and CE) are tolerable.