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date: Sat, 24 Nov 2007 18:24:35 GMT,    group: uk.media.radio.bbc-r1        back       
Re: Mids 20/11   
In uk.music.charts on Sat, 24 Nov 2007, Col  
wrote :
>
>> So R1 brainlessly follow the US in promoting rap, again.
>>
>> In the mid 1980's, American radio stations, tired of the 'British
>> invasion', boycotted new releases from across the pond, thus allowing
>> home-grown talent to flourish. Is there any reason why we shouldn't do the
>> same thing to them?
>
>Yes.

>People should be allowed to listen to what *they* want to listen
>to, not what some radio station *thinks* they should be listening to.

Isn't that an argument for all-request radio stations?

Also, how *do* radio stations such as R1 decide what to playlist? New 
releases by major artists are obvious choices, but there are certain 
genres they barely touch, even though singles of that type often do 
quite well, chartwise.

Girls Aloud are a good example - they've never missed the top 10 with 16 
singles, yet they get nothing like the airplay their chart success 
deserves.
-- 
Paul Hyett, Cheltenham (change 'invalid83261' to 'blueyonder' to email me)
date: Sat, 24 Nov 2007 18:24:35 GMT   author:   Paul Hyett

Re: Mids 20/11   
"Paul Hyett"  wrote in message 
news:GuPdA0AnNGSHFw0C@blueyonder.co.uk...
> In uk.music.charts on Sat, 24 Nov 2007, Col  
> wrote :
>>
>>> So R1 brainlessly follow the US in promoting rap, again.
>>>
>>> In the mid 1980's, American radio stations, tired of the 'British
>>> invasion', boycotted new releases from across the pond, thus allowing
>>> home-grown talent to flourish. Is there any reason why we shouldn't do 
>>> the
>>> same thing to them?
>>
>>Yes.
>
>>People should be allowed to listen to what *they* want to listen
>>to, not what some radio station *thinks* they should be listening to.
>
> Isn't that an argument for all-request radio stations?

If you took it to it's logical extremes, then yes.

What I don't want to see is radio stations rejecting perfectly
good music that their listeners will probably want to hear, on
the grounds that it's not British.

Didn't the French try this kind of thing some years ago, perhaps they
still do. In an attempt to boost French culture against the American 
onslaught
a certain percentage of tracks played on French radio had to be in French.
What actually happened of course was that the demand for US music
was still high and the French stuff ended up being relagated to late night
slots were audience figures were low anyway.

> Also, how *do* radio stations such as R1 decide what to playlist? New 
> releases by major artists are obvious choices, but there are certain 
> genres they barely touch, even though singles of that type often do quite 
> well, chartwise.

R1 can't be all things to all people though.
Even if it makes the charts some music such as that which is tending
towards 'easy listening' for example will be far more suited to a R2 
audience.

> Girls Aloud are a good example - they've never missed the top 10 with 16 
> singles, yet they get nothing like the airplay their chart success 
> deserves.

Even on Radio One?
-- 
Col

Steal a spaceship and head for the sun,
Shoot the stars with a lemonade ray gun.
date: Sun, 25 Nov 2007 09:13:47 -0000   author:   Col

Re: Mids 20/11   
"Paul Hyett"  wrote in message 
news:WlEpyaBKGdSHFwmm@blueyonder.co.uk...
> In uk.music.charts on Sun, 25 Nov 2007, Col  
> wrote :

>>
>>What I don't want to see is radio stations rejecting perfectly
>>good music that their listeners will probably want to hear, on
>>the grounds that it's not British.
>
> I'm not talking about perfectly good music - I'm talking about rap. :)

Well you know what I meant, music that people will want to listen too.
And is *British* rap OK?

>>Didn't the French try this kind of thing some years ago, perhaps they
>>still do. In an attempt to boost French culture against the American
>>onslaught
>>a certain percentage of tracks played on French radio had to be in French.
>>What actually happened of course was that the demand for US music
>>was still high and the French stuff ended up being relagated to late night
>>slots were audience figures were low anyway.
>
> Of course, the language issue wouldn't apply in my scenario.

Well no, but the general concept is the same.
If you introduce 'quotas' then they will tend to be treated in a
manner most advantageous to that of the radio station, thus limiting
their effect.
-- 
Col

Steal a spaceship and head for the sun,
Shoot the stars with a lemonade ray gun.
date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 18:08:55 -0000   author:   Col

Re: Mids 20/11   
"Paul Hyett"  wrote in message 
news:Jkw+yrAYF8SHFwUL@blueyonder.co.uk...
> In uk.music.charts on Mon, 26 Nov 2007, Col  
> wrote :
>>>>
>>>>What I don't want to see is radio stations rejecting perfectly
>>>>good music that their listeners will probably want to hear, on
>>>>the grounds that it's not British.
>>>
>>> I'm not talking about perfectly good music - I'm talking about rap. :)
>>
>>Well you know what I meant, music that people will want to listen too.
>>And is *British* rap OK?
>>
> You mean in relation to the above, or are you asking me what I think of 
> it?

In relation to the above.
I *know* you hate all rap music.

>>
>>Well no, but the general concept is the same.
>>If you introduce 'quotas' then they will tend to be treated in a
>>manner most advantageous to that of the radio station, thus limiting
>>their effect.
>
> What did you have in mind?

No quotas.
That's the point.
-- 
Col

Steal a spaceship and head for the sun,
Shoot the stars with a lemonade ray gun.
date: Tue, 27 Nov 2007 17:50:00 -0000   author:   Col

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