Singles
-------
Sean Kingston #1, as expected.

New Entries/Climbers
--------------------
Top 10 : Plain Whit T's #3, Rihanna #5, Freaks #9, James Blunt #10
Top 20 : Elvis #14, Kano/Craig David #18, Scouting For Girls #19
Top 30 : KT Tunstall #21, Natalie Imbruglia #23, Reverend & The Makers 
#30
Top 40 : Athlete #31, Maroon 5 #33, Twang #34, Armand Van Helden #38

New outside the top 40 : Jamie Scott #41, P Diddy #50, Ultrabeat #52, 
P,B&J #56, Dave Spoon #57, Girls Aloud #64, Editors #73, Proclaimers #74

Albums
------
Newton Faulkner stays at #1, though at abysmal sales levels. Fortunately 
there's only one more week before the autumn release rush begins.

NE's (top 20) : Super Furry Animals #11


New outside the top 20 : Ringo Starr #26, Joe Bonamassa #50, Atreyu #61, 
Paul Van Dyk #63

Next Week
---------
Singles
-------
A straight fight between James Blunt & Girls Aloud for #1 this week, 
which I expect the former to win fairly comfortably.

Top 10 : Girls Aloud, Scouting For Girls
Top 20 : Editors, Elvis, Reverend & the Makers
Top 30 : Interpol, Rooney
Top 40 : Go Team, MIMS

Any other possibilities?

Albums
------
Hard-Fi look like the most obvious candidate for #1

Top 20 NE : Athlete, Sean Kingston
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> Singles
> -------
> Sean Kingston #1, as expected.

I never understand why you post this to umtm. The other groups, fair enough. 
At least add an "OT".

Fred.

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> Singles
> -------
> Sean Kingston #1, as expected.

One of those records that arrives at the top carrying so many people's 
opinions that it's hard to add much to the discussion.
One thing I've spotted is that this record is over four minutes long, which 
is surely not called for.

> New Entries/Climbers
> --------------------
> Top 10 : Plain Whit T's #3,

Making a lunge for "most accurately named chart act of 2007", and also for 
laziest B-side (the same song without the string arrangements!).
Another one that's been around for so long that it seems a bit late to 
express an opinion. Let's predict that it's going to hang around for ages, 
and that they'll never have another hit on this scale.

> Rihanna #5,

This is starting to feel like Pick Of The Pops.
What could be mistaken for her attempt to go country. Although I hadn't 
noticed this until it was pointed out, this samples Orgy's regrettable cover 
version of 'Blue Monday' which may become New Order's last writing credit on 
a hit single.

> Freaks #9,

Not the Beatfreakz, or Lovefreeks, or any of the many other charting Freaks. 
In a common story for a dance record, it was originally an instrumental club 
hit but had a vocal dubbed onto it for commercial reasons.

>James Blunt #10

Out tomorrow on CDs and 7".

> Top 20 : Elvis #14,

A record that has, believe it or not, been around even longer than the 
Rihanna one. ;-)
'Hound Dog' was originally written and produced by the legendary Lieber & 
Stoller for blues singer Big Momma Thornton, although Elvis based his 
recording on a gender-changed and slightly sanitised version by Freddie 
Bell. Also on this re-issue is the original US A-side 'Don't Be Cruel' (one 
of Presley's few writing credits) and a third track from the session 'Any 
Way You Want Me'. Elvis apparently produced these tracks, although he's 
uncredited.
The reissue uses the original US artwork, and no I don't know why the dog is 
wearing a top hat.

>Kano/Craig David #18,

Perhaps the most notable thing about this record is that even though Craig 
David is only really a backing singer here, the record company are evidently 
pushing this as a way to relaunch his solo career. Kano, meanwhile, remains 
the only act to have a hit on Mike Skinner's hopeless The Beats label, but 
in his couple of years off seems to have suffered a nasty bout of Foreign 
Accent Syndrome.

> Scouting For Girls #19

Out tomorrow on CD and 7"s.

> Top 30 : KT Tunstall #21,

Lead single from her second album proper, and seemingly the victim of album 
sales as it's sold only respectably despite major airplay success. It's a 
very likeable record, despite that odd rubber-band solo at the start.

> Natalie Imbruglia #23,

Almost exactly ten years after her chart debut, her ninth hit heralds a 
compilation album.
Somewhat surprisingly, 'Glorious' is co-written and produced by Crispin 
Hunt, who used to be a member of the Longpigs alongside Richard Hawley.

> Reverend & The Makers #30

Out tomorrow on CD & 7".

> Top 40 : Athlete #31,

Trailing their imminent third album, and unfortunately for them also 
trailing the chart position of the lead single from their last one to the 
tune of 26 places. Was it really wise for an act who've usually had trouble 
selling singles to put this out as a two-track CD in a card sleeve?
It's possibly the most lyrically intriguing song in the chart, but seems to 
find them out of their depth musically.

> Maroon 5 #33,

Just the 31 places lower than their last one got, then.
Possibly having this and their mini-me Jamie Scott releasing records in the 
same week cancelled each other out.

>Twang #34,

"Near the flower grows a weed, and not the kind you smoke," they 
sing/mumble. Re-recorded from the album, not that it seems to have helped 
sales much.

>Armand Van Helden #38

Out tomorrow.

> New outside the top 40 : Jamie Scott #41,

Irritating singer-songwriter who was dropped by his previous label after a 
couple of minor hits in 2004-5, but has been given a second bite of the 
cherry thanks to the Morrisons and Nutinis of this world. Even though he 
admits to being influenced by Jamiroquai.

> P Diddy #50,

Haven't heard this. Apparently the B-side "mixes deep house cheekiness with 
a Hip-Hop sensibility, creating a vibe that transcends both."

>Ultrabeat #52,

And Darren Styles - together at last.

> P,B&J #56,

Seemingly a re-entry at this point, although a full-scale reissue is 
scheduled for the 17th.

> Dave Spoon #57,


> Girls Aloud #64,

Out tomorrow on CDs. What was the point of releasing it on download two days 
early?

> Editors #73,

Out tomorrow on CDs & 7"

> Proclaimers #74

Which, technically, makes this one of the least successful follow-ups to a 
Number One from an established act.

> Albums
> ------

> NE's (top 20) : Super Furry Animals #11

Eighth studio album from the Welsh indie legends, and their first on an 
actual indie label in a few years. It has still mananged to chart higher 
than their last major-label disc, Love Kraft, which the band apparently now 
regard as a mistake.
Apparently this is supposed to be a concept album.

> New outside the top 20 : Ringo Starr #26,

Liverpudlian singer Richard Starkey, who apparently used to be in a band or 
something.
But seriously folks, Photograph is his first proper compilation since 1975 
and now his first UK chart album since the previous year. It includes all 
six of his charting singles, plus the surprise US hit 'Wrack My Brain', the 
George Harrison tribute 'Never Without You' and other favourites.
This week also saw the digital release of his EMI albums, which leaves only 
George unrepresented on the download sites.

>Joe Bonamassa #50,

Blues-rock guitarist who's made quite a name for himself among fans of the 
genre.

> Atreyu #61,

Californian metal act with their first album for Roadrunner, their fourth in 
all.

> Paul Van Dyk #63

Veteran trance producer, whose new album includes vocals from (among others) 
David Byrne and one of the other Pussycat Dolls.

> Next Week
> ---------
> Singles
> -------
> A straight fight between James Blunt & Girls Aloud for #1 this week, which 
> I expect the former to win fairly comfortably.

I'm not even sure if it qualifies as a fight, TBH. Strictly speaking, I 
don't feel able to make a definitive pronouncement until I've seen the sales 
figures.

> Top 10 : Girls Aloud, Scouting For Girls

Neat little coincidence. I don't really know why this Scouting record is 
doing so much better than their last one, but it's obviously going to 
continue doing so.

> Top 20 : Editors,

Sounds about the right level.

>Elvis,

Again, this seems to be where they're landing this year.
It's 'Teddy Bear'. I think.

>Reverend & the Makers

Of course the last one peaked confusingly late, but in any case this one 
doesn't seem to have been as well-received.

> Top 30 : Interpol,

I was wondering about this one. It seems to have been more of a radio hit 
than the last one and they're making more of an effort on the B-sides, but 
it is still coming out after the album, so it would unlikely to sell *more*. 
But then the second and third ones from their previous effort did, so who 
knows?

>Rooney

Another one I didn't know where to go with - the BBC stations have only 
played it sporadically without much obvious enthusiasm, but I imagine that 
commerical stations are really hammering it.

> Top 40 : Go Team,

Their last one flopped monumentally, though.

> MIMS

I've not noticed any promo at all for this (I couldn't even tell you what it 
was called without looking it up), and I'm not sure if the previous one was 
really big enough to inspire the typical follow-up hit. But it's a bit 
outside my area.

> Any other possibilities?

Well, Armand Van Helden is already in the Top 40, so will presumably climb a 
bit. The Rumble Strips have, not undeservedly, made a habit of near-misses, 
but the new one is in a film. And it says here that there's going to be a 
Dance X single, but I don't even know how that's possible.

> Albums
> ------
> Hard-Fi look like the most obvious candidate for #1

Absolutely.

> Top 20 NE : Athlete,

Agreed. Possibly Top 10, although it's clearly not going to be another 
Number One for them.

>Sean Kingston

Why not the Plain White Ts then?

Also, the "Festival Edition" of the Paolo Nutini album may drive it a few 
places upwards.

    Chris
-- 
"It's always hard meeting your heroes. Especially when they punch you in the 
face."

http://thehitparade.blogspot.com

More of my blathering is available at
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> "Paul Hyett"  wrote in message 
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>> Singles
>> -------
>> Sean Kingston #1, as expected.
>
> I never understand why you post this to umtm. The other groups, fair 
> enough.

Shh... neither do I. I usually remember to take it out of the TV group after 
my first reply.

> At least add an "OT".

But the trouble is, it's not OT to the other groups.

    Chris
-- 
"It's always hard meeting your heroes. Especially when they punch you in the 
face."

http://thehitparade.blogspot.com

More of my blathering is available at
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> "Paul Hyett"  wrote in message 
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>> Singles
>> -------
>> Sean Kingston #1, as expected.
>
> I never understand why you post this to umtm. The other groups, fair 
> enough. At least add an "OT".

Or why Paul bothered to create the charts grouip in the first place when
most of the threads he starts are crossposted anyway.
-- 
Col

Steal a spaceship and head for the sun,
Shoot the stars with a lemonade ray gun.

In uk.music.charts on Sun, 2 Sep 2007, Fred Finisterre 
 wrote :
>"Paul Hyett"  wrote in message
>news:2ZDhNbFHmw2GFwVg@blueyonder.co.uk...
>> Singles
>> -------
>> Sean Kingston #1, as expected.
>
>I never understand why you post this to umtm.

A year or so back, I did ask uktm if they were OK with the cross-post, 
and a small majority said yes.

>The other groups, fair enough.
>At least add an "OT".

I can't put OT in the title without it also appearing in groups where it 
isn't OT, though.
-- 
Paul Hyett, Cheltenham (change 'invalid83261' to 'blueyonder' to email me)

In uk.music.charts on Sun, 2 Sep 2007, Chris Brown 
 wrote :

>> Singles
>> -------
>> Sean Kingston #1, as expected.
>
>One of those records that arrives at the top carrying so many people's
>opinions that it's hard to add much to the discussion.
>One thing I've spotted is that this record is over four minutes long, which
>is surely not called for.

Even 4 seconds would be too long!

OK that was a very predictable comment, but this urban singles chart 
domination is starting to get tedious (even though I didn't mind 
'Umbrella').
>
>> New Entries/Climbers
>> --------------------
>> Top 10 : Plain Whit T's #3,
>
>Making a lunge for "most accurately named chart act of 2007", and also for
>laziest B-side (the same song without the string arrangements!).
>Another one that's been around for so long that it seems a bit late to
>express an opinion. Let's predict that it's going to hang around for ages,
>and that they'll never have another hit on this scale.

It may well hang around for a while, but don't forget it's download 
sales were already slipping...
>
>> Rihanna #5,
>
>This is starting to feel like Pick Of The Pops.
>What could be mistaken for her attempt to go country.

Really?

>Although I hadn't
>noticed this until it was pointed out, this samples Orgy's regrettable cover
>version of 'Blue Monday' which may become New Order's last writing credit on
>a hit single.

I don't know that cover you refer to.
>
>> Freaks #9,
>
>Not the Beatfreakz, or Lovefreeks, or any of the many other charting Freaks.
>In a common story for a dance record, it was originally an instrumental club
>hit but had a vocal dubbed onto it for commercial reasons.

Often a mistake...
>
>>James Blunt #10
>
>Out tomorrow on CDs and 7".

Or today, now. :)

Should sell like hot cakes.
>
>>Kano/Craig David #18,
>
>Perhaps the most notable thing about this record is that even though Craig
>David is only really a backing singer here, the record company are evidently
>pushing this as a way to relaunch his solo career.

Surely that's because Craig David is far better known here in the UK 
than Kano?
>
>> Scouting For Girls #19
>
>Out tomorrow on CD and 7"s.

This one caught me by surprise.
>
>> Top 30 : KT Tunstall #21,
>
>Lead single from her second album proper, and seemingly the victim of album
>sales

What album sales - not even out for another week...

> as it's sold only respectably despite major airplay success.

Seven places better than 'Black Horse' managed though.

> It's a
>very likeable record, despite that odd rubber-band solo at the start.

I'm very surprised it couldn't even make the top 20.
>
>> Natalie Imbruglia #23,
>
>Almost exactly ten years after her chart debut, her ninth hit heralds a
>compilation album.

Another disappointing position.

>Somewhat surprisingly, 'Glorious' is co-written and produced by Crispin
>Hunt, who used to be a member of the Longpigs

Never heard of them.
>
>> Reverend & The Makers #30
>
>Out tomorrow on CD & 7".

The last one had a bit of merit - what does this one have?
>
>> Top 40 : Athlete #31,
>
>Trailing their imminent third album, and unfortunately for them also
>trailing the chart position of the lead single from their last one to the
>tune of 26 places. Was it really wise for an act who've usually had trouble
>selling singles to put this out as a two-track CD in a card sleeve?

What's the problem - it's not like the CD was made of cardboard...
>
>> Maroon 5 #33,
>
>Just the 31 places lower than their last one got, then.

And on full release, too!

>Possibly having this and their mini-me Jamie Scott releasing records in the
>same week cancelled each other out.

IMO he's easier to confuse with James Blunt.
>
>>Armand Van Helden #38
>
>Out tomorrow.

The last one had hot babes in the video - I don''t know why *this* one 
charted...
>
>> New outside the top 40 :
>
>> P Diddy #50,
>
>Haven't heard this. Apparently the B-side "mixes deep house cheekiness with
>a Hip-Hop sensibility, creating a vibe that transcends both."

In other words, it's a throwaway track...
>
>>Ultrabeat #52,
>
>And Darren Styles - together at last.

They've lost the original 3 babes, but gained a quite attractive larger 
girl.
>
>> P,B&J #56,
>
>Seemingly a re-entry at this point, although a full-scale reissue is
>scheduled for the 17th.

I doubt anyone is putting money on it doing better than last time, 
though.

I can understand re-issues if a group has made it big in the intervening 
period, but...
>
>> Dave Spoon #57,
>
Nothing to say about this one? :)
>
>> Girls Aloud #64,
>
>Out tomorrow on CDs. What was the point of releasing it on download two days
>early?

To hide it from the top 40 if it didn't sell well virtually?
>
>> Albums
>> ------
>> NE's (top 20) : Super Furry Animals #11
>
>Eighth studio album from the Welsh indie legends, and their first on an
>actual indie label in a few years. It has still mananged to chart higher
>than their last major-label disc, Love Kraft, which the band apparently now
>regard as a mistake.

>Apparently this is supposed to be a concept album.

What's the concept?
>
>> New outside the top 20 : Ringo Starr #26,
>
>Liverpudlian singer Richard Starkey, who apparently used to be in a band or
>something.
>But seriously folks, Photograph is his first proper compilation since 1975

He's released any new material since then? :)
>
>>Joe Bonamassa #50,
>
>Blues-rock guitarist who's made quite a name for himself among fans of the
>genre.

All 3000 of them, guessing at his likely sales for the week...
>
>> Next Week
>> ---------
>> Singles
>> -------
>> A straight fight between James Blunt & Girls Aloud for #1 this week, which
>> I expect the former to win fairly comfortably.
>
>I'm not even sure if it qualifies as a fight, TBH.

Hence the 'fairly comfortably' qualifier... :)

>Strictly speaking, I
>don't feel able to make a definitive pronouncement until I've seen the sales
>figures.
>
>>Elvis,
>
>Again, this seems to be where they're landing this year.
>It's 'Teddy Bear'. I think.

Less well known, so may struggle to hold in the 20.

>> Albums
>> ------
>> Hard-Fi look like the most obvious candidate for #1
>
>Absolutely.

Not that it'd need much - I dare say Mr Faulkner sold little more than 
25k at #1 this week.
>
>> Top 20 NE : Athlete,
>
>Agreed. Possibly Top 10, although it's clearly not going to be another
>Number One for them.

#2 probably, given the modest sales it'd need.
>
>>Sean Kingston
>
>Why not the Plain White Ts then?

Because I missed them when checking the list?

Top 20, then.
>
>Also, the "Festival Edition" of the Paolo Nutini album may drive it a few
>places upwards.

But it's not *new* - and I rarely mention climbers.
-- 
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"Paul Hyett"  wrote in message 
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> A year or so back, I did ask uktm if they were OK with the cross-post, 
> and a small majority said yes.

I think I was one of the ones that said yes. I don't really mind it.

Ian

In uk.media.tv.misc on Sun, 2 Sep 2007, Chris Brown wrote :
>
>"Fred Finisterre"  wrote in message
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>> "Paul Hyett"  wrote in message
>> news:2ZDhNbFHmw2GFwVg@blueyonder.co.uk...
>>> Singles
>>> -------
>>> Sean Kingston #1, as expected.
>>
>> I never understand why you post this to umtm. The other groups, fair
>> enough.
>
>Shh... neither do I.

You never mentioned that before.

>I usually remember to take it out of the TV group after
>my first reply.

That, I did notice.
>
>> At least add an "OT".
>
>But the trouble is, it's not OT to the other groups.
-- 
Paul 'Charts Fan' Hyett

In uk.media.tv.misc on Mon, 3 Sep 2007, Col wrote :
>
>"Fred Finisterre"  wrote in message
>news:cLidnaeIpYLziEbbnZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d@giganews.com...
>> "Paul Hyett"  wrote in message
>> news:2ZDhNbFHmw2GFwVg@blueyonder.co.uk...
>>> Singles
>>> -------
>>> Sean Kingston #1, as expected.
>>
>> I never understand why you post this to umtm. The other groups, fair
>> enough. At least add an "OT".
>
>Or why Paul bothered to create the charts grouip in the first place when
>most of the threads he starts are crossposted anyway.

I'm beginning to think there's a conspiracy against me. :)
-- 
Paul 'Charts Fan' Hyett

In uk.music.charts on Mon, 3 Sep 2007, Ian F. 
 wrote :
>"Paul Hyett"  wrote in message
>news:jwY03hJp962GFwVR@blueyonder.co.uk...
>
>> A year or so back, I did ask uktm if they were OK with the cross-post,
>> and a small majority said yes.
>
>I think I was one of the ones that said yes. I don't really mind it.

No doubt you've seen my straw poll thread by now.
-- 
Paul Hyett, Cheltenham (change 'invalid83261' to 'blueyonder' to email me)

"Paul Hyett"  wrote in message 
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> In uk.media.tv.misc on Mon, 3 Sep 2007, Col wrote :
>>
>>"Fred Finisterre"  wrote in message
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>>> "Paul Hyett"  wrote in message
>>> news:2ZDhNbFHmw2GFwVg@blueyonder.co.uk...
>>>> Singles
>>>> -------
>>>> Sean Kingston #1, as expected.
>>>
>>> I never understand why you post this to umtm. The other groups, fair
>>> enough. At least add an "OT".
>>
>>Or why Paul bothered to create the charts grouip in the first place when
>>most of the threads he starts are crossposted anyway.
>
> I'm beginning to think there's a conspiracy against me. :)

You haven't heard about the e-mail whispering campaign behind
your back yet.....
-- 
Col

Steal a spaceship and head for the sun,
Shoot the stars with a lemonade ray gun.

"Paul Hyett"  wrote in message 
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> In uk.music.charts on Sun, 2 Sep 2007, Chris Brown 
>  wrote :
>
>>> Singles
>>> -------
>>> New Entries/Climbers
>>> --------------------
>>> Top 10 : Plain Whit T's #3,
>>
>>Another one that's been around for so long that it seems a bit late to
>>express an opinion. Let's predict that it's going to hang around for ages,
>>and that they'll never have another hit on this scale.
>
> It may well hang around for a while, but don't forget it's download sales 
> were already slipping...

Yes, but didn't that also happen to the Fray?

>>> Rihanna #5,
>>
>>This is starting to feel like Pick Of The Pops.
>>What could be mistaken for her attempt to go country.
>
> Really?

I thought so. Obviously, because it's her singing it, it doesn't sound 
country - but you can imagine one of the pop-country acts of recent years 
doing it.

>>Although I hadn't
>>noticed this until it was pointed out, this samples Orgy's regrettable 
>>cover
>>version of 'Blue Monday' which may become New Order's last writing credit 
>>on
>>a hit single.
>
> I don't know that cover you refer to.

You really, really, *really* haven't missed much!
It never charted here, but somehow managed to go higher in the US than New 
Order's recording.
Orgy themselves were protegees of Korn and the version was somewhat 
Manson-esque.

>>> Freaks #9,
>>
>>Not the Beatfreakz, or Lovefreeks, or any of the many other charting 
>>Freaks.
>>In a common story for a dance record, it was originally an instrumental 
>>club
>>hit but had a vocal dubbed onto it for commercial reasons.
>
> Often a mistake...

Yes, but alas a mistake that's often rewarded.

>>>James Blunt #10
>>
>>Out tomorrow on CDs and 7".
>
> Or today, now. :)

Indeed.

> Should sell like hot cakes.

Very likely.

>>>Kano/Craig David #18,
>>
>>Perhaps the most notable thing about this record is that even though Craig
>>David is only really a backing singer here, the record company are 
>>evidently
>>pushing this as a way to relaunch his solo career.
>
> Surely that's because Craig David is far better known here in the UK than 
> Kano?

I should imagine that's true in most other parts of the world too.
But you can't really sell this record on the basis of David's contribution, 
and it seems more like they're trying to sell him on the basis of the 
record. Which of course doesn't say much for the current state of his 
career!

>>> Scouting For Girls #19
>>
>>Out tomorrow on CD and 7"s.
>
> This one caught me by surprise.

The notion of it ultimately hitting the Top 20 wasn't a staggering one for 
me - but considering that the much hyped 'It's Not About You' didn't sell 
much even on physicals, it's remarkable how far this has gone.

>>> Top 30 : KT Tunstall #21,
>>
>>Lead single from her second album proper, and seemingly the victim of 
>>album
>>sales
>
> What album sales - not even out for another week...

No, but I bet a lot of people have already preordered it. And even people 
who haven't might have decided that they're going to which makes it seem 
less worthwhile to buy the single.

>> as it's sold only respectably despite major airplay success.
>
> Seven places better than 'Black Horse' managed though.

True, but the bad news for her is that it's going to be hard to beat that 
position with other singles from this album.

>> It's a
>>very likeable record, despite that odd rubber-band solo at the start.
>
> I'm very surprised it couldn't even make the top 20.

It's not far off, but I know what you mean.

>>> Natalie Imbruglia #23,
>>
>>Almost exactly ten years after her chart debut, her ninth hit heralds a
>>compilation album.
>
> Another disappointing position.

It's not a very attention-grabbing record though, is it? I mean, it's all 
pretty competent and will presumably do its job of drawing attention to the 
Singles album, but it's not the sort of thing that I can imagine inspiring 
people to rush out and buy.

>>Somewhat surprisingly, 'Glorious' is co-written and produced by Crispin
>>Hunt, who used to be a member of the Longpigs
>
> Never heard of them.

Of course not - that's why the lead singer is doing faceless co-writes for 
people like Natalie! No disrespect to her, but Kelly Jones doesn't have to 
do that sort of thing.
Anyway, I was amused by the coincidence of two of them simulantaneously 
making an impact in the charts in such different ways.

>>> Reverend & The Makers #30
>>
>>Out tomorrow on CD & 7".
>
> The last one had a bit of merit - what does this one have?

Everything that was annoying about the first one, plus extra fake-Cockney 
vocals.

>>> Top 40 : Athlete #31,
>>Was it really wise for an act who've usually had trouble
>>selling singles to put this out as a two-track CD in a card sleeve?
>
> What's the problem - it's not like the CD was made of cardboard...

Even when I bought CD singles regularly, I hated those stupid card sleeves.

>>> Maroon 5 #33,
>>
>>Just the 31 places lower than their last one got, then.
>
> And on full release, too!

Absolutely. Of course 'Must Get Out' only got to 39, but that was the 
*fifth* single from its album.

>>Possibly having this and their mini-me Jamie Scott releasing records in 
>>the
>>same week cancelled each other out.
>
> IMO he's easier to confuse with James Blunt.

In terms of only being one bloke, yes. But his vocal on this track is 
particularly Maroon-like.

>>> New outside the top 40 :
>>
>>> P Diddy #50,
>>
>>Haven't heard this. Apparently the B-side "mixes deep house cheekiness 
>>with
>>a Hip-Hop sensibility, creating a vibe that transcends both."
>
> In other words, it's a throwaway track...

Preusmably. At least we've dodged the bullet of Mario Winans and the other 
Mario being in the Top 40 at the same time.

>>>Ultrabeat #52,
>>
>>And Darren Styles - together at last.
>
> They've lost the original 3 babes, but gained a quite attractive larger 
> girl.

I thought Ultrabeat were all blokes?

>>> P,B&J #56,
>>
>>Seemingly a re-entry at this point, although a full-scale reissue is
>>scheduled for the 17th.
>
> I doubt anyone is putting money on it doing better than last time, though.

It already has! Obviously not in terms of chart position, yet, but it's been 
hanging around just outside the Top 75 for weeks and for all I know has 
already beaten last year's sales total.

> I can understand re-issues if a group has made it big in the intervening 
> period, but...

In this case, the song itself has got bigger.

>>> Dave Spoon #57,
>>
> Nothing to say about this one? :)

I was going to put in the physical release info, but the HMV website was 
down and in the end I gave up waiting.
It's out on the 10th on CDs & 12".

>>> Girls Aloud #64,
>>
>>Out tomorrow on CDs. What was the point of releasing it on download two 
>>days
>>early?
>
> To hide it from the top 40 if it didn't sell well virtually?

In which case, why not wait until today (or yesterday) to release the 
download at all?

>>> Albums
>>> ------
>>> NE's (top 20) : Super Furry Animals #11
>>
>>Eighth studio album from the Welsh indie legends, and their first on an
>>actual indie label in a few years. It has still mananged to chart higher
>>than their last major-label disc, Love Kraft, which the band apparently 
>>now
>>regard as a mistake.
>
>>Apparently this is supposed to be a concept album.
>
> What's the concept?

Rescue our career? :-)
Apparently they told the sleeve designer it was "the story of a provincial 
ingenue - Venus - overwhelmed by life in a megalopolis. She ends up working 
a stripper, but is saved at the 11th hour." Sorry to give away the ending 
there.

>>> New outside the top 20 : Ringo Starr #26,
>>
>>Liverpudlian singer Richard Starkey, who apparently used to be in a band 
>>or
>>something.
>>But seriously folks, Photograph is his first proper compilation since 1975
>
> He's released any new material since then? :)

Oh yes, although he sat out most of the 1980s due to drink. Considering the 
standard of many records by veteran acts in that decade, it was probably 
just as well.

>>>Joe Bonamassa #50,
>>
>>Blues-rock guitarist who's made quite a name for himself among fans of the
>>genre.
>
> All 3000 of them, guessing at his likely sales for the week...

Which is quite a lot for a blues record with no mainstream promotion though.

>>> Next Week
>>> ---------
>>> Singles
>>> -------
>>> A straight fight between James Blunt & Girls Aloud for #1 this week, 
>>> which
>>> I expect the former to win fairly comfortably.
>>
>>I'm not even sure if it qualifies as a fight, TBH.
>
> Hence the 'fairly comfortably' qualifier... :)

I wouldn't set money on them even being Number 2... Especially now I've seen 
how many Kingston sold.

>>>Elvis,
>>
>>Again, this seems to be where they're landing this year.
>>It's 'Teddy Bear'. I think.
>
> Less well known, so may struggle to hold in the 20.

Relatively, perhaps. But it's still a song that many people old enough to 
appreciate Elvis will know. And in any case, the 2005 re-issues all seemed 
to sell about the same irrespective of popularity.

>>> Albums
>>> ------
>>> Hard-Fi look like the most obvious candidate for #1
>>
>>Absolutely.
>
> Not that it'd need much - I dare say Mr Faulkner sold little more than 25k 
> at #1 this week.

Just shy of 30k, actually - but that's still no real challenge to Hard-Fi. 
Crispin Hunt seems to have written a lot of the Faulkner album too, BTW.

>>> Top 20 NE : Athlete,
>>
>>Agreed. Possibly Top 10, although it's clearly not going to be another
>>Number One for them.
>
> #2 probably, given the modest sales it'd need.

FWIW, Tourist sold 83k to enter at the top. However, I'd forgetten that 
they're dishing out the Mercury prize tomorrow night, which may give a 
slight boost to overall sales. If anyone other than Amy Winehouse wins 
they'll surely climb, although where to obviously depends on who they are.

>>>Sean Kingston
>>
>>Why not the Plain White Ts then?
>
> Because I missed them when checking the list?

As good an excuse as any.

> Top 20, then.
>>
>>Also, the "Festival Edition" of the Paolo Nutini album may drive it a few
>>places upwards.
>
> But it's not *new* - and I rarely mention climbers.

Strictly speaking, the PWTs album isn't new either, then.

    Chris

In uk.music.charts on Mon, 3 Sep 2007, Chris Brown 
 wrote :
>>
>>>> Singles
>>>> -------
>>>> New Entries/Climbers
>>>> --------------------
>>>> Top 10 : Plain Whit T's #3,
>>
>> It may well hang around for a while, but don't forget it's download sales
>> were already slipping...
>
>Yes, but didn't that also happen to the Fray?

No, their download sales peaked on the same week as their highest 
position in the combined chart.
>
>>>> Rihanna #5,
>>>
>>>This is starting to feel like Pick Of The Pops.
>>>What could be mistaken for her attempt to go country.
>>
>> Really?
>
>I thought so. Obviously, because it's her singing it, it doesn't sound
>country - but you can imagine one of the pop-country acts of recent years
>doing it.

Like Shania Twain?
>
>>>> Top 30 : KT Tunstall #21,
>>>
>>>Lead single from her second album proper, and seemingly the victim of
>>>album
>>>sales
>>
>> What album sales - not even out for another week...
>
>No, but I bet a lot of people have already preordered it. And even people
>who haven't might have decided that they're going to which makes it seem
>less worthwhile to buy the single.

OK, you got me there... :)
>
>True, but the bad news for her is that it's going to be hard to beat that
>position with other singles from this album.

Depends what they're like.

>
>>>> Top 40 : Athlete #31,
>>>Was it really wise for an act who've usually had trouble
>>>selling singles to put this out as a two-track CD in a card sleeve?
>>
>> What's the problem - it's not like the CD was made of cardboard...
>
>Even when I bought CD singles regularly, I hated those stupid card sleeves.

But they weren't exactly common, even then.
>
>>>Possibly having this and their mini-me Jamie Scott releasing records in
>>>the
>>>same week cancelled each other out.
>>
>> IMO he's easier to confuse with James Blunt.
>
>In terms of only being one bloke, yes. But his vocal on this track is
>particularly Maroon-like.

I always though a 'maroon' was a loud annoying noise used to call out 
lifeboats...
>
>>>>Ultrabeat #52,
>>>
>>>And Darren Styles - together at last.
>>
>> They've lost the original 3 babes, but gained a quite attractive larger
>> girl.
>
>I thought Ultrabeat were all blokes?

What's gonna sell a video - DJ's with beer-bellies, or hot babes in 
skimpy clothes?
>
>>>> Girls Aloud #64,
>>>
>>>Out tomorrow on CDs. What was the point of releasing it on download two
>>>days
>>>early?
>>
>> To hide it from the top 40 if it didn't sell well virtually?
>
>In which case, why not wait until today (or yesterday) to release the
>download at all?

I'm not the one to ask about that - but perhaps they're trying to set 
'biggest climb' records?
>
>>>> Albums
>>>> ------
>>>> New outside the top 20 : Ringo Starr #26,
>>>
>>>Liverpudlian singer Richard Starkey, who apparently used to be in a band
>>>or
>>>something.
>>>But seriously folks, Photograph is his first proper compilation since 1975
>>
>> He's released any new material since then? :)
>
>Oh yes, although he sat out most of the 1980s due to drink.

That must have been *some* bender on 31/12/79 then! :)
>
>>>> Next Week
>>>> ---------
>>>> Singles
>>>> -------
>>>> A straight fight between James Blunt & Girls Aloud for #1 this week,
>>>> which
>>>> I expect the former to win fairly comfortably.
>>>
>>>I'm not even sure if it qualifies as a fight, TBH.
>>
>> Hence the 'fairly comfortably' qualifier... :)
>
>I wouldn't set money on them even being Number 2... Especially now I've seen
>how many Kingston sold.

#3 then.
>
>>>>Elvis,
>
>Relatively, perhaps. But it's still a song that many people old enough to
>appreciate Elvis will know. And in any case, the 2005 re-issues all seemed
>to sell about the same irrespective of popularity.

But surely that's because they were limited editions, thus concentrating 
sales.
-- 
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In article , 
vidcapper@invalid83261.co.uk says...
> In uk.music.charts on Sun, 2 Sep 2007, Chris Brown 
>  wrote :
> 
> >> Natalie Imbruglia #23,
> >
> >Almost exactly ten years after her chart debut, her ninth hit heralds a
> >compilation album.
> 
> Another disappointing position.
> 
> >Somewhat surprisingly, 'Glorious' is co-written and produced by Crispin
> >Hunt, who used to be a member of the Longpigs
> 
> Never heard of them.

Had a couple of Top 20 singles in 1996

She Said
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F0dowFS--gE

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In article <fbf7m7$snm$1@inews.gazeta.pl>, extremespamrice@yahoo.com 
says...
> 
> "Fred Finisterre"  wrote in message 
> news:cLidnaeIpYLziEbbnZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d@giganews.com...
> > "Paul Hyett"  wrote in message 
> > news:2ZDhNbFHmw2GFwVg@blueyonder.co.uk...
> >> Singles
> >> -------
> >> Sean Kingston #1, as expected.
> >
> > I never understand why you post this to umtm. The other groups, fair 
> > enough.
> 
> Shh... neither do I. I usually remember to take it out of the TV group after 
> my first reply.
> 
> > At least add an "OT".
> 
> But the trouble is, it's not OT to the other groups.
> 
>     Chris
> 

Paul should just add "I wish they'd bring back 'Top Of The Pops' back" 
to the post and then it'd be on topic here too.

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"Paul Hyett"  wrote in message 
news:t75HlxLrXR3GFwtI@blueyonder.co.uk...
> In uk.music.charts on Mon, 3 Sep 2007, Chris Brown 
>  wrote :
>>>
>>>>> Singles
>>>>> -------
>>>>> New Entries/Climbers
>>>>> --------------------
>>>>> Top 10 : Plain Whit T's #3,
>>>
>>> It may well hang around for a while, but don't forget it's download 
>>> sales
>>> were already slipping...
>>
>>Yes, but didn't that also happen to the Fray?
>
> No, their download sales peaked on the same week as their highest position 
> in the combined chart.

Ooh I didn't know that.

>>>>> Rihanna #5,
>>>>
>>>>This is starting to feel like Pick Of The Pops.
>>>>What could be mistaken for her attempt to go country.
>>>
>>> Really?
>>
>>I thought so. Obviously, because it's her singing it, it doesn't sound
>>country - but you can imagine one of the pop-country acts of recent years
>>doing it.
>
> Like Shania Twain?

She wasn't the first name I thought of, but now you come to mention it, 
yeah.

>>>>> Top 30 : KT Tunstall #21,
>>>>
>>>>Lead single from her second album proper, and seemingly the victim of
>>>>album
>>>>sales
>>>
>>
>>True, but the bad news for her is that it's going to be hard to beat that
>>position with other singles from this album.
>
> Depends what they're like.

I don't think it necessarily does, actually. Not that I've heard the whole 
album, but I suspect this may be the most obvious single on there.

>>>>> Top 40 : Athlete #31,
>>>>Was it really wise for an act who've usually had trouble
>>>>selling singles to put this out as a two-track CD in a card sleeve?
>>>
>>> What's the problem - it's not like the CD was made of cardboard...
>>
>>Even when I bought CD singles regularly, I hated those stupid card 
>>sleeves.
>
> But they weren't exactly common, even then.

"Even then"? It wasn't *that* long ago!
Anyway, it's true that they weren't very common, but that didn't make it any 
less annoying when it did happen.

>>>>Possibly having this and their mini-me Jamie Scott releasing records in
>>>>the
>>>>same week cancelled each other out.
>>>
>>> IMO he's easier to confuse with James Blunt.
>>
>>In terms of only being one bloke, yes. But his vocal on this track is
>>particularly Maroon-like.
>
> I always though a 'maroon' was a loud annoying noise used to call out 
> lifeboats...

And...?. ;)

>>>>>Ultrabeat #52,
>>>>
>>>>And Darren Styles - together at last.
>>>
>>> They've lost the original 3 babes, but gained a quite attractive larger
>>> girl.
>>
>>I thought Ultrabeat were all blokes?
>
> What's gonna sell a video - DJ's with beer-bellies, or hot babes in skimpy 
> clothes?

IIRC, the one Ultrabeat video I saw was just the blokes. But I obviously 
haven't devoted much time to them.

>>>>> Girls Aloud #64,
>>>>
>>>>Out tomorrow on CDs. What was the point of releasing it on download two
>>>>days
>>>>early?
>>>
>>> To hide it from the top 40 if it didn't sell well virtually?
>>
>>In which case, why not wait until today (or yesterday) to release the
>>download at all?
>
> I'm not the one to ask about that - but perhaps they're trying to set 
> 'biggest climb' records?

A bit of a risky strategy.

>>>>> Albums
>>>>> ------
>>>>> New outside the top 20 : Ringo Starr #26,
>>>>
>>>>Liverpudlian singer Richard Starkey, who apparently used to be in a band
>>>>or
>>>>something.
>>>>But seriously folks, Photograph is his first proper compilation since 
>>>>1975
>>>
>>> He's released any new material since then? :)
>>
>>Oh yes, although he sat out most of the 1980s due to drink.
>
> That must have been *some* bender on 31/12/79 then! :)

He did stagger (literally, I suspect) into the early years of the decade 
with an album that only came out in Germany, but he really did have a big 
drink problem - as did many of his friends, not all of whom are here to tell 
the tale.

>>>>> Next Week
>>>>> ---------
>>>>> Singles
>>>>> -------

>>>>>Elvis,
>>
>>Relatively, perhaps. But it's still a song that many people old enough to
>>appreciate Elvis will know. And in any case, the 2005 re-issues all seemed
>>to sell about the same irrespective of popularity.
>
> But surely that's because they were limited editions, thus concentrating 
> sales.

They were at first, but then later in the series they started pressing extra 
copies.

    Chris

"Mal Franks"  wrote in message
news:MPG.2147436a745d4d40989709@news.individual.net...
> In article ,
> vidcapper@invalid83261.co.uk says...
>> In uk.music.charts on Sun, 2 Sep 2007, Chris Brown
>>  wrote :
>>
>> >> Natalie Imbruglia #23,
>> >
>> >Almost exactly ten years after her chart debut, her ninth hit heralds a
>> >compilation album.
>>
>> Another disappointing position.
>>
>> >Somewhat surprisingly, 'Glorious' is co-written and produced by Crispin
>> >Hunt, who used to be a member of the Longpigs
>>
>> Never heard of them.
>
> Had a couple of Top 20 singles in 1996
>
> She Said
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F0dowFS--gE

IIRC that link is to the original video, which I'd never seen until it was 
on there. If anyone's wondering, Crispin Hunt was the lead singer and 
Richard Hawley was the one with the quiff avoiding the camera.
Personally, I think it's a bit of a shame that's the only song they're 
remembered for, but that first album is one of the lost classics of British 
rock.

    Chris

In uk.music.charts on Tue, 4 Sep 2007, Chris Brown 
 wrote :
>>>>
>>>>>> Singles
>>>>>> -------
>>>>>> New Entries/Climbers
>>>>>> --------------------
>
>>>>>> Rihanna #5,
>>>>>
>>>>>This is starting to feel like Pick Of The Pops.
>>>>>What could be mistaken for her attempt to go country.
>>>>
>>>> Really?
>>>
>>>I thought so. Obviously, because it's her singing it, it doesn't sound
>>>country - but you can imagine one of the pop-country acts of recent years
>>>doing it.
>>
>> Like Shania Twain?
>
>She wasn't the first name I thought of, but now you come to mention it,
>yeah.

Well, when you mentioned recent pop/country acts, she's definitely one 
I'd want to be 'doing it' with. :)
>
>>>>>> Top 30 : KT Tunstall #21,

>>> the bad news for her is that it's going to be hard to beat that
>>>position with other singles from this album.
>>
>> Depends what they're like.
>
>I don't think it necessarily does, actually.

Well, IMO the most obvious single from 'Eye To The Telescope' (Suddenly 
I See) was only 3rd in line.

> Not that I've heard the whole
>album, but I suspect this may be the most obvious single on there.

I haven't even heard any of the other tracks...
>
>>>>>a two-track CD in a card sleeve?
>>>>
>>>> What's the problem - it's not like the CD was made of cardboard...
>>>
>>>Even when I bought CD singles regularly, I hated those stupid card
>>>sleeves.
>>
>> But they weren't exactly common, even then.
>
>"Even then"? It wasn't *that* long ago!
>Anyway, it's true that they weren't very common, but that didn't make it any
>less annoying when it did happen.

You should do what I would - just replace it with a plastic case...
>
>>>
>>>In terms of only being one bloke, yes. But his vocal on this track is
>>>particularly Maroon-like.
>>
>> I always though a 'maroon' was a loud annoying noise used to call out
>> lifeboats...
>
>And...?. ;)

Grin.
>
>>>>>> Girls Aloud #64,
>>>>>
>>>In which case, why not wait until today (or yesterday) to release the
>>>download at all?
>>
>> I'm not the one to ask about that - but perhaps they're trying to set
>> 'biggest climb' records?
>
>A bit of a risky strategy.

Probably more based on their previous sales pattern - very physical, 
rather like their videos... :)
>
>>>>>>Elvis,
>>>
>>>Relatively, perhaps. But it's still a song that many people old enough to
>>>appreciate Elvis will know. And in any case, the 2005 re-issues all seemed
>>>to sell about the same irrespective of popularity.
>>
>> But surely that's because they were limited editions, thus concentrating
>> sales.
>
>They were at first, but then later in the series they started pressing extra
>copies.

And those ones did a little less well, chartwise...
-- 
Paul Hyett, Cheltenham (change 'invalid83261' to 'blueyonder' to email me)

In uk.music.charts on Tue, 4 Sep 2007, Chris Brown 
 wrote :
>>>
>>> >Somewhat surprisingly, 'Glorious' is co-written and produced by Crispin
>>> >Hunt, who used to be a member of the Longpigs
>>>
>>> Never heard of them.
>>
>> Had a couple of Top 20 singles in 1996
>>
>> She Said
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F0dowFS--gE
>
>IIRC that link is to the original video, which I'd never seen until it was
>on there.

I even found the obscure Kylie 'GBI' video on Youtube, which I'd only 
ever seen short clips of before.
-- 
Paul Hyett, Cheltenham (change 'invalid83261' to 'blueyonder' to email me)

"Paul Hyett"  wrote in message 
news:y8HwEyKQYm3GFw$P@blueyonder.co.uk...
> In uk.music.charts on Tue, 4 Sep 2007, Chris Brown 
>  wrote :
>>>>>
>>>>>>> Singles
>>>>>>> -------
>>>>>>> New Entries/Climbers
>>>>>>> --------------------
>>
>>>>>>> Rihanna #5,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>This is starting to feel like Pick Of The Pops.
>>>>>>What could be mistaken for her attempt to go country.
>>>>>
>>>>> Really?
>>>>
>>>>I thought so. Obviously, because it's her singing it, it doesn't sound
>>>>country - but you can imagine one of the pop-country acts of recent 
>>>>years
>>>>doing it.
>>>
>>> Like Shania Twain?
>>
>>She wasn't the first name I thought of, but now you come to mention it,
>>yeah.
>
> Well, when you mentioned recent pop/country acts, she's definitely one I'd 
> want to be 'doing it' with. :)

She's near your age, I suppose.

>>>>>>> Top 30 : KT Tunstall #21,
>
>>>> the bad news for her is that it's going to be hard to beat that
>>>>position with other singles from this album.
>>>
>>> Depends what they're like.
>>
>>I don't think it necessarily does, actually.
>
> Well, IMO the most obvious single from 'Eye To The Telescope' (Suddenly I 
> See) was only 3rd in line.

Or even fourth if you count the False Alarm EP - but I think the record 
company assumed 'Other Side Of The World' to be the obvious single. Anyway, 
that was obviously a deliberate strategy because she was a breakthrough act 
then.

>> Not that I've heard the whole
>>album, but I suspect this may be the most obvious single on there.
>
> I haven't even heard any of the other tracks...

I've heard one other, which I have to admit I wasn't greatly impressed by.

>>>>>>a two-track CD in a card sleeve?
>>>>>
>>>>> What's the problem - it's not like the CD was made of cardboard...
>>>>
>>>>Even when I bought CD singles regularly, I hated those stupid card
>>>>sleeves.
>>>
>>> But they weren't exactly common, even then.
>>
>>"Even then"? It wasn't *that* long ago!
>>Anyway, it's true that they weren't very common, but that didn't make it 
>>any
>>less annoying when it did happen.
>
> You should do what I would - just replace it with a plastic case...

...At my own expense? See what I mean?

>>>>>>> Girls Aloud #64,
>>>>>>
>>>>In which case, why not wait until today (or yesterday) to release the
>>>>download at all?
>>>
>>> I'm not the one to ask about that - but perhaps they're trying to set
>>> 'biggest climb' records?
>>
>>A bit of a risky strategy.
>
> Probably more based on their previous sales pattern - very physical, 
> rather like their videos... :)

Again, though, that's surely a reason to avoid releasing it in advance at 
all.
Perhaps it's some paranoia about piracy - the version they originally sent 
to radio seems to have been in mono.

>>>>>>>Elvis,
>>>>
>>>>Relatively, perhaps. But it's still a song that many people old enough 
>>>>to
>>>>appreciate Elvis will know. And in any case, the 2005 re-issues all 
>>>>seemed
>>>>to sell about the same irrespective of popularity.
>>>
>>> But surely that's because they were limited editions, thus concentrating
>>> sales.
>>
>>They were at first, but then later in the series they started pressing 
>>extra
>>copies.
>
> And those ones did a little less well, chartwise...

They did, although in fairness to them they were in a tougher market.

    Chris

On Sep 2, 2:42 pm, "Chris Brown"  wrote:
> 'Hound Dog' was originally written and produced by the legendary Leiber & Stoller
> for blues singer Big Mama Thornton, although Elvis based his
> recording on a gender-changed and slightly sanitised version by Freddie
> Bell. Also on this re-issue is the original US A-side 'Don't Be Cruel' (one
> of Presley's few writing credits) and a third track from the session 'Any
> Way You Want Me'. Elvis apparently produced these tracks, although he's
> uncredited.
> The reissue uses the original US artwork, and no I don't know why the dog is
> wearing a top hat.

The picture on the sleeve is from Elvis' performance of the song on
the Steve Allen show on July 1st, 1956. Steve Allen thought it would
be funny to put Elvis in a tux and have him sing the song to a basset
hound in a top hat. It was also an attempt to tone down and "class-up"
Elvis' appearance after the furor over his suggestive performance on
the Milton Berle show the previous month. Elvis later described it as
''the most ridiculous performance of my entire career.''

Incidentally, Presley's writing credit on "Don't Be Cruel" was one of
Colonel Parker's typical machinations to get more money for Presley
(and himself.) Despite what the credits say, the song was written
entirely by Otis Blackwell.

In uk.music.charts on Wed, 5 Sep 2007, Chris Brown 
 wrote :
>>>>
>>>> Like Shania Twain?
>>>
>>>She wasn't the first name I thought of, but now you come to mention it,
>>>yeah.
>>
>> Well, when you mentioned recent pop/country acts, she's definitely one I'd
>> want to be 'doing it' with. :)
>
>She's near your age, I suppose.

As long as they're over 18... :)
>
>>>>>>>>KT Tunstall
>>
>> I haven't even heard any of the other tracks...
>
>I've heard one other, which I have to admit I wasn't greatly impressed by.

The album was advertised on TV yesterday, so I heard little bits of 
other tracks.
>>
>> You should do what I would - just replace it with a plastic case...
>
>...At my own expense?

And I thought *I* was strapped for cash. :)

Cases cost less than 15p, you know!
>
>They did, although in fairness to them they were in a tougher market.
>
Talking about tougher markets, I see Katie Melua's only real competition 
on the 1st Oct will be the Stereophonics.

While their last 4 albums did go to #1, they were all released in spring 
or summer, presumably against relatively weak opposition - I think 
they'll find Katie Melua's fanbase far more formidable.

Checking up, the 'Phonics last album sold 106k, though that was backed 
up by a #1 single - and the lead single this time is weaker. I'd guess 
that Katie will shift closer to 150k first week, though.

Mind you, given the usual sales patterns - rock sales very front-loaded, 
with MOR slower but steadier - I dare say the Stereophonics may start 
the week ahead, but get pulled back towards the weekend.
-- 
Paul Hyett, Cheltenham (change 'invalid83261' to 'blueyonder' to email me)

"PStoller"  wrote in message
news:1189041758.818561.112390@d55g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
> On Sep 2, 2:42 pm, "Chris Brown"  wrote:
>> 'Hound Dog' was originally written and produced by the legendary Leiber &
>> Stoller
>> for blues singer Big Mama Thornton, although Elvis based his
>> recording on a gender-changed and slightly sanitised version by Freddie
>> Bell. Also on this re-issue is the original US A-side 'Don't Be Cruel'
>> (one
>> of Presley's few writing credits) and a third track from the session 'Any
>> Way You Want Me'. Elvis apparently produced these tracks, although he's
>> uncredited.
>> The reissue uses the original US artwork, and no I don't know why the dog
>> is
>> wearing a top hat.
>
> The picture on the sleeve is from Elvis' performance of the song on
> the Steve Allen show on July 1st, 1956. Steve Allen thought it would
> be funny to put Elvis in a tux and have him sing the song to a basset
> hound in a top hat. It was also an attempt to tone down and "class-up"
> Elvis' appearance after the furor over his suggestive performance on
> the Milton Berle show the previous month. Elvis later described it as
> ''the most ridiculous performance of my entire career.''

Thanks for that.

> Incidentally, Presley's writing credit on "Don't Be Cruel" was one of
> Colonel Parker's typical machinations to get more money for Presley
> (and himself.) Despite what the credits say, the song was written
> entirely by Otis Blackwell.

I did deliberately choose the word "credit" there to indicate that. I notice 
that it's claimed on the Wikipedia entry that Presley's credit could be 
justified by his contributions as an arranger, but somebody has added the 
"Citation Needed" tag there! I didn't know, but suspected that the Colonel 
insisted on it for the sake of his percentage.

    Chris

"Paul Hyett"  wrote in message
news:DwZ8nxLp563GFwZ3@blueyonder.co.uk...
> In uk.music.charts on Wed, 5 Sep 2007, Chris Brown
>  wrote :
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>KT Tunstall
>>>
>>> I haven't even heard any of the other tracks...
>>
>>I've heard one other, which I have to admit I wasn't greatly impressed by.
>
> The album was advertised on TV yesterday, so I heard little bits of other
> tracks.

I heard another one today, which I thought was alright, but possibly lacking 
the qualities of her debut.

>>> You should do what I would - just replace it with a plastic case...
>>
>>...At my own expense?
>
> And I thought *I* was strapped for cash. :)
>
> Cases cost less than 15p, you know!

Yes, but they'd cost EMI even less.
It's not really about the money, of course. It's about the way it seems so 
penny-pinching of them. And even if you did put it in a box, there's be no 
title on the spine...

>>They did, although in fairness to them they were in a tougher market.
>>
> Talking about tougher markets, I see Katie Melua's only real competition
> on the 1st Oct will be the Stereophonics.

Are you sure about that? HMV says the 15th

There are quite a few big releases that are likely to breach the Top 10 
(Springsteen, Babyshambles, Lennox, Penate) but I agree that none of them is 
a very likely chart topper.

> Checking up, the 'Phonics last album sold 106k, though that was backed up
> by a #1 single - and the lead single this time is weaker.

It certainly is - although it's not necessarily any weaker than 'Madam 
Helga', and the album (presumably) also includes 'Bank Holiday Monday'.

>I'd guess that
> Katie will shift closer to 150k first week, though.

Than what? She only sold 120k last time.

    Chris

In uk.music.charts on Thu, 6 Sep 2007, Chris Brown 
 wrote :
>
>>>> You should do what I would - just replace it with a plastic case...
>>>
>>>...At my own expense?
>>
>> And I thought *I* was strapped for cash. :)
>>
>> Cases cost less than 15p, you know!
>
>Yes, but they'd cost EMI even less.
>It's not really about the money, of course. It's about the way it seems so
>penny-pinching of them. And even if you did put it in a box, there's be no
>title on the spine...

I'd rip them straight to MP3 anyway, so that'd be irrelevant.
>>>
>> Talking about tougher markets, I see Katie Melua's only real competition
>> on the 1st Oct will be the Stereophonics.
>
>Are you sure about that? HMV says the 15th

That makes no sense, with the single due out on the 24th Sep.
>
>There are quite a few big releases that are likely to breach the Top 10
>(Springsteen, Babyshambles, Lennox, Penate) but I agree that none of them is
>a very likely chart topper.

I suspect there will be considerable jockeying for position during the 
week, with Babyshambles especially being muscled aside towards the 
weekend...
>
>>I'd guess that
>> Katie will shift closer to 150k first week, though.
>
>Than what? She only sold 120k last time.

IMO that was due to second-album nerves on the part of her fans, but now 
she has proven she wasn't a one-hit-wonder.

BTW, she debuted at #77 on airplay this week, albeit on just 20 spins 
(mostly on R2, presumably).
-- 
Paul Hyett, Cheltenham (change 'invalid83261' to 'blueyonder' to email me)

"Paul Hyett"  wrote in message 
news:jWbUORHcRP4GFw3K@blueyonder.co.uk...
> In uk.music.charts on Thu, 6 Sep 2007, Chris Brown 
>  wrote :
>>
>>>>> You should do what I would - just replace it with a plastic case...
>>>>
>>>>...At my own expense?
>>>
>>> And I thought *I* was strapped for cash. :)
>>>
>>> Cases cost less than 15p, you know!
>>
>>Yes, but they'd cost EMI even less.
>>It's not really about the money, of course. It's about the way it seems so
>>penny-pinching of them. And even if you did put it in a box, there's be no
>>title on the spine...
>
> I'd rip them straight to MP3 anyway, so that'd be irrelevant.

Yeah, but if I wanted 'Hurricane' on MP3 I could have bought it for less and 
two weeks earlier.
Like I said, it's not really about the practicalities of the thing.

>>> Talking about tougher markets, I see Katie Melua's only real competition
>>> on the 1st Oct will be the Stereophonics.
>>
>>Are you sure about that? HMV says the 15th
>
> That makes no sense, with the single due out on the 24th Sep.

Can I just clarify that it's the Stereophonics album that HMV have listed 
for the 15th?

>>There are quite a few big releases that are likely to breach the Top 10
>>(Springsteen, Babyshambles, Lennox, Penate) but I agree that none of them 
>>is
>>a very likely chart topper.
>
> I suspect there will be considerable jockeying for position during the 
> week, with Babyshambles especially being muscled aside towards the 
> weekend...

I don't know if it'll ever be that close, TBH.

>>>I'd guess that
>>> Katie will shift closer to 150k first week, though.
>>
>>Than what? She only sold 120k last time.
>
> IMO that was due to second-album nerves on the part of her fans, but now 
> she has proven she wasn't a one-hit-wonder.

I can't rule it out, obviously, but it's not the way things tend to go. Has 
the second album sold more than the first?

> BTW, she debuted at #77 on airplay this week, albeit on just 20 spins 
> (mostly on R2, presumably).

Presumably, although I don't *think* I've heard it as often this week as 
last.

    Chris

In uk.music.charts on Sun, 2 Sep 2007, Paul Hyett 
 wrote :
>
>Next Week
>---------
>Singles
>-------
Going off at a tangent, does anyone else like the single 'Bubbly' by 
Colbie Caillat?

IMO she sounds like a white Corinne Baillie Rae.
-- 
Paul Hyett, Cheltenham (change 'invalid83261' to 'blueyonder' to email me)

Chris Brown wrote:
> "Paul Hyett"  wrote in message 
> news:jWbUORHcRP4GFw3K@blueyonder.co.uk...
>> In uk.music.charts on Thu, 6 Sep 2007, Chris Brown 
>>  wrote :
>>>>>> You should do what I would - just replace it with a plastic case...
>>>>> ...At my own expense?
>>>> And I thought *I* was strapped for cash. :)
>>>>
>>>> Cases cost less than 15p, you know!
>>> Yes, but they'd cost EMI even less.
>>> It's not really about the money, of course. It's about the way it seems so
>>> penny-pinching of them. And even if you did put it in a box, there's be no
>>> title on the spine...
>> I'd rip them straight to MP3 anyway, so that'd be irrelevant.
> 
> Yeah, but if I wanted 'Hurricane' on MP3 I could have bought it for less and 
> two weeks earlier.
> Like I said, it's not really about the practicalities of the thing.
> 
>>>> Talking about tougher markets, I see Katie Melua's only real competition
>>>> on the 1st Oct will be the Stereophonics.
>>> Are you sure about that? HMV says the 15th
>> That makes no sense, with the single due out on the 24th Sep.
> 
> Can I just clarify that it's the Stereophonics album that HMV have listed 
> for the 15th?
> 
>>> There are quite a few big releases that are likely to breach the Top 10
>>> (Springsteen, Babyshambles, Lennox, Penate) but I agree that none of them 
>>> is
>>> a very likely chart topper.
>> I suspect there will be considerable jockeying for position during the 
>> week, with Babyshambles especially being muscled aside towards the 
>> weekend...
> 
> I don't know if it'll ever be that close, TBH.
> 
>>>> I'd guess that
>>>> Katie will shift closer to 150k first week, though.
>>> Than what? She only sold 120k last time.
>> IMO that was due to second-album nerves on the part of her fans, but now 
>> she has proven she wasn't a one-hit-wonder.
> 
> I can't rule it out, obviously, but it's not the way things tend to go. Has 
> the second album sold more than the first?
> 
>> BTW, she debuted at #77 on airplay this week, albeit on just 20 spins 
>> (mostly on R2, presumably).
> 
> Presumably, although I don't *think* I've heard it as often this week as 
> last.
> 
>     Chris 
> 

most of the audience would be from R2 but she's only at #19 on R2's 
airplay chart - up from #35 -  so I doubt it had more than a small 
handful of plays on that station, perhaps 5 or so. Most would still be 
from some small local station somewhere.


-- 
Robbie

In uk.music.charts on Fri, 7 Sep 2007, Chris Brown 
 wrote :
>
>>>> Talking about tougher markets, I see Katie Melua's only real competition
>>>> on the 1st Oct will be the Stereophonics.
>>>
>>>Are you sure about that? HMV says the 15th
>>
>> That makes no sense, with the single due out on the 24th Sep.
>
>Can I just clarify that it's the Stereophonics album that HMV have listed
>for the 15th?

Ah, that makes more sense - I guess Ms Melua must be more intimidating 
than she appears. :)
>
>>
>> I suspect there will be considerable jockeying for position during the
>> week, with Babyshambles especially being muscled aside towards the
>> weekend...
>
>I don't know if it'll ever be that close, TBH.
>
Well, the single promoting it is surprisingly OK.
>
>I can't rule it out, obviously, but it's not the way things tend to go. Has
>the second album sold more than the first?

Not really a fair comparison, since one has been out 2 years longer than 
the other. All I know is they've both sold over 1 million.
>
>> BTW, she debuted at #77 on airplay this week, albeit on just 20 spins
>> (mostly on R2, presumably).
>
>Presumably, although I don't *think* I've heard it as often this week as
>last.

The video seems to be getting daily plays on VH1 though, and possibly 
other channels - though I can't be sure as my neighbour has some 
scaffolding up which is screwing up the Sky signal on some channels.
-- 
Paul Hyett, Cheltenham (change 'invalid83261' to 'blueyonder' to email me)

In uk.music.charts on Fri, 7 Sep 2007, Robbie  
wrote :

>>>>>Katie Melua
>>
>>> BTW, she debuted at #77 on airplay this week, albeit on just 20 
>>>spins  (mostly on R2, presumably).

>>  Presumably, although I don't *think* I've heard it as often this 
>>week as  last.
>>      Chris
>
>most of the audience would be from R2 but she's only at #19 on R2's 
>airplay chart - up from #35 -  so I doubt it had more than a small 
>handful of plays on that station, perhaps 5 or so.

But she's A-listed, which means 20 plays a week - and AIUI DJ's have no 
choice but to play such singles if they are told to.
-- 
Paul Hyett, Cheltenham (change 'invalid83261' to 'blueyonder' to email me)

Paul Hyett wrote:
> In uk.music.charts on Fri, 7 Sep 2007, Robbie  
> wrote :
> 
>>>>>> Katie Melua
>>>
>>>> BTW, she debuted at #77 on airplay this week, albeit on just 20 
>>>> spins  (mostly on R2, presumably).
> 
>>>  Presumably, although I don't *think* I've heard it as often this 
>>> week as  last.
>>>      Chris
>>
>> most of the audience would be from R2 but she's only at #19 on R2's 
>> airplay chart - up from #35 -  so I doubt it had more than a small 
>> handful of plays on that station, perhaps 5 or so.
> 
> But she's A-listed, which means 20 plays a week - and AIUI DJ's have no 
> choice but to play such singles if they are told to.

20 plays on R2 would be enough to place a song inside the top 30, though 
of course this would depend on whether those plays were all during daytime.

-- 
Robbie