'Your Love Alone Is Not Enough'

Never thought I'd like an MSP single, but that has now changed! Mind 
you, the guest vocals of Nina Persson (of the Cardigans) make quite a 
difference.

I can see this one going top 3 easily - and more to the point, not 
immediately plummeting as MSP singles usually do.
-- 
Paul Hyett, Cheltenham (change 'invalid83261' to 'blueyonder' to email me)

In uk.music.charts on Tue, 10 Apr 2007, Paul Hyett 
 wrote :
>'Your Love Alone Is Not Enough'
>
>Never thought I'd like an MSP single, but that has now changed! Mind 
>you, the guest vocals of Nina Persson (of the Cardigans) make quite a 
>difference.
>
>I can see this one going top 3 easily - and more to the point, not 
>immediately plummeting as MSP singles usually do.

I guess silence indicates agreement... :)
-- 
Paul Hyett, Cheltenham (change 'invalid83261' to 'blueyonder' to email me)

"Paul Hyett"  wrote in message 
news:UZ1Q0IE8PmHGFwYa@blueyonder.co.uk...
> In uk.music.charts on Tue, 10 Apr 2007, Paul Hyett 
>  wrote :
>>'Your Love Alone Is Not Enough'
>>
>>Never thought I'd like an MSP single, but that has now changed! Mind you, 
>>the guest vocals of Nina Persson (of the Cardigans) make quite a 
>>difference.
>>
>>I can see this one going top 3 easily - and more to the point, not 
>>immediately plummeting as MSP singles usually do.
>
> I guess silence indicates agreement... :)

Who's Silence...? Are they a regular contributor here?

BTW - Agree completely. Bout time the Manics had a decent single!

"Paul Hyett"  wrote in message 
news:UZ1Q0IE8PmHGFwYa@blueyonder.co.uk...
> In uk.music.charts on Tue, 10 Apr 2007, Paul Hyett 
>  wrote :
>>'Your Love Alone Is Not Enough'
>>
>>Never thought I'd like an MSP single, but that has now changed! Mind you, 
>>the guest vocals of Nina Persson (of the Cardigans) make quite a 
>>difference.
>>
>>I can see this one going top 3 easily - and more to the point, not 
>>immediately plummeting as MSP singles usually do.
>
> I guess silence indicates agreement... :)

It indicates me being too busy to have got round to this thread yet.

BTW, just so this isn't a totally redundant post - why is this in the R1 
group?

    Chris

"Paul Hyett"  wrote in message
news:gi5t6$DKG8GGFwVc@blueyonder.co.uk...
> 'Your Love Alone Is Not Enough'
>
> Never thought I'd like an MSP single, but that has now changed! Mind you,
> the guest vocals of Nina Persson (of the Cardigans) make quite a
> difference.

I'm very much of the opinion that if you've got James Dean Bradfield in your 
band, you have no business letting outher people sing. Especially not Nicky 
Wire.

> I can see this one going top 3 easily -

Which is not a terribly brave prediction in itself...

>and more to the point, not
> immediately plummeting as MSP singles usually do.

Or at least as they have done recently. The only proviso - apart from the 
fact that I think the record is not much cop - is that this might appeal to 
a more AOR, non-single-buying demographic, thus limiting the length of its 
run. Mind you, pre-release downloads will give this at least one extra week.

    Chris

"Paul Hyett"  wrote in message 
news:UZ1Q0IE8PmHGFwYa@blueyonder.co.uk...
> In uk.music.charts on Tue, 10 Apr 2007, Paul Hyett 
>  wrote :
>>'Your Love Alone Is Not Enough'
>>
>>Never thought I'd like an MSP single, but that has now changed! Mind you, 
>>the guest vocals of Nina Persson (of the Cardigans) make quite a 
>>difference.
>>
>>I can see this one going top 3 easily - and more to the point, not 
>>immediately plummeting as MSP singles usually do.
>
> I guess silence indicates agreement... :)

Who's Silence...? Are they a regular contributor here?

BTW - Agree completely. Bout time the Manics had a decent single!

"Paul Hyett"  wrote in message 
news:UZ1Q0IE8PmHGFwYa@blueyonder.co.uk...
> In uk.music.charts on Tue, 10 Apr 2007, Paul Hyett 
>  wrote :
>>'Your Love Alone Is Not Enough'
>>
>>Never thought I'd like an MSP single, but that has now changed! Mind you, 
>>the guest vocals of Nina Persson (of the Cardigans) make quite a 
>>difference.
>>
>>I can see this one going top 3 easily - and more to the point, not 
>>immediately plummeting as MSP singles usually do.
>
> I guess silence indicates agreement... :)

It indicates me being too busy to have got round to this thread yet.

BTW, just so this isn't a totally redundant post - why is this in the R1 
group?

    Chris

"Paul Hyett"  wrote in message
news:gi5t6$DKG8GGFwVc@blueyonder.co.uk...
> 'Your Love Alone Is Not Enough'
>
> Never thought I'd like an MSP single, but that has now changed! Mind you,
> the guest vocals of Nina Persson (of the Cardigans) make quite a
> difference.

I'm very much of the opinion that if you've got James Dean Bradfield in your 
band, you have no business letting outher people sing. Especially not Nicky 
Wire.

> I can see this one going top 3 easily -

Which is not a terribly brave prediction in itself...

>and more to the point, not
> immediately plummeting as MSP singles usually do.

Or at least as they have done recently. The only proviso - apart from the 
fact that I think the record is not much cop - is that this might appeal to 
a more AOR, non-single-buying demographic, thus limiting the length of its 
run. Mind you, pre-release downloads will give this at least one extra week.

    Chris

"Paul Hyett"  wrote in message 
news:UZ1Q0IE8PmHGFwYa@blueyonder.co.uk...
> In uk.music.charts on Tue, 10 Apr 2007, Paul Hyett 
>  wrote :
>>'Your Love Alone Is Not Enough'
>>
>>Never thought I'd like an MSP single, but that has now changed! Mind you, 
>>the guest vocals of Nina Persson (of the Cardigans) make quite a 
>>difference.
>>
>>I can see this one going top 3 easily - and more to the point, not 
>>immediately plummeting as MSP singles usually do.
>
> I guess silence indicates agreement... :)

Who's Silence...? Are they a regular contributor here?

BTW - Agree completely. Bout time the Manics had a decent single!

"Paul Hyett"  wrote in message 
news:UZ1Q0IE8PmHGFwYa@blueyonder.co.uk...
> In uk.music.charts on Tue, 10 Apr 2007, Paul Hyett 
>  wrote :
>>'Your Love Alone Is Not Enough'
>>
>>Never thought I'd like an MSP single, but that has now changed! Mind you, 
>>the guest vocals of Nina Persson (of the Cardigans) make quite a 
>>difference.
>>
>>I can see this one going top 3 easily - and more to the point, not 
>>immediately plummeting as MSP singles usually do.
>
> I guess silence indicates agreement... :)

It indicates me being too busy to have got round to this thread yet.

BTW, just so this isn't a totally redundant post - why is this in the R1 
group?

    Chris

"Paul Hyett"  wrote in message
news:gi5t6$DKG8GGFwVc@blueyonder.co.uk...
> 'Your Love Alone Is Not Enough'
>
> Never thought I'd like an MSP single, but that has now changed! Mind you,
> the guest vocals of Nina Persson (of the Cardigans) make quite a
> difference.

I'm very much of the opinion that if you've got James Dean Bradfield in your 
band, you have no business letting outher people sing. Especially not Nicky 
Wire.

> I can see this one going top 3 easily -

Which is not a terribly brave prediction in itself...

>and more to the point, not
> immediately plummeting as MSP singles usually do.

Or at least as they have done recently. The only proviso - apart from the 
fact that I think the record is not much cop - is that this might appeal to 
a more AOR, non-single-buying demographic, thus limiting the length of its 
run. Mind you, pre-release downloads will give this at least one extra week.

    Chris

In uk.music.charts on Fri, 13 Apr 2007, Chris Brown 
 wrote :

>>>'Your Love Alone Is Not Enough'
>>>
>>>Never thought I'd like an MSP single, but that has now changed! Mind you,
>>>the guest vocals of Nina Persson (of the Cardigans) make quite a
>>>difference.
>>>
>>>I can see this one going top 3 easily - and more to the point, not
>>>immediately plummeting as MSP singles usually do.
>
>It indicates me being too busy to have got round to this thread yet.
>
>BTW, just so this isn't a totally redundant post - why is this in the R1
>group?

Because I thought it more likely to find MSP fans there, than on the R2 
one.

It's listed for the 30th Apr, and I get the feeling they're not someone 
who'll be big on downloads, so a premature appearance seems unlikely.
-- 
Paul Hyett, Cheltenham (change 'invalid83261' to 'blueyonder' to email me)

In uk.music.charts on Fri, 13 Apr 2007, Chris Brown 
 wrote :
>
>"Paul Hyett"  wrote in message
>news:gi5t6$DKG8GGFwVc@blueyonder.co.uk...
>> 'Your Love Alone Is Not Enough'
>>
>> Never thought I'd like an MSP single, but that has now changed! Mind you,
>> the guest vocals of Nina Persson (of the Cardigans) make quite a
>> difference.
>
>I'm very much of the opinion that if you've got James Dean Bradfield in your
>band, you have no business letting outher people sing.

I'm not sure what to make of this comment.
>
>> I can see this one going top 3 easily -
>
>Which is not a terribly brave prediction in itself...

Two years back, pre-download, I would have agreed - but as a 'fanbase' 
group who'll surely rely mostly on physical sales, they'll be at a 
distinct disadvantage.
>
>>and more to the point, not
>> immediately plummeting as MSP singles usually do.
>
>Or at least as they have done recently. The only proviso - apart from the
>fact that I think the record is not much cop - is that this might appeal to
>a more AOR, non-single-buying demographic, thus limiting the length of its
>run.

How could you tell? :)

>Mind you, pre-release downloads will give this at least one extra week.

But not in the top 40, I suspect.
-- 
Paul Hyett, Cheltenham (change 'invalid83261' to 'blueyonder' to email me)

"Paul Hyett"  wrote in message 
news:UZ1Q0IE8PmHGFwYa@blueyonder.co.uk...
> In uk.music.charts on Tue, 10 Apr 2007, Paul Hyett 
>  wrote :
>>'Your Love Alone Is Not Enough'
>>
>>Never thought I'd like an MSP single, but that has now changed! Mind you, 
>>the guest vocals of Nina Persson (of the Cardigans) make quite a 
>>difference.
>>
>>I can see this one going top 3 easily - and more to the point, not 
>>immediately plummeting as MSP singles usually do.
>
> I guess silence indicates agreement... :)

Who's Silence...? Are they a regular contributor here?

BTW - Agree completely. Bout time the Manics had a decent single!

"Paul Hyett"  wrote in message 
news:UZ1Q0IE8PmHGFwYa@blueyonder.co.uk...
> In uk.music.charts on Tue, 10 Apr 2007, Paul Hyett 
>  wrote :
>>'Your Love Alone Is Not Enough'
>>
>>Never thought I'd like an MSP single, but that has now changed! Mind you, 
>>the guest vocals of Nina Persson (of the Cardigans) make quite a 
>>difference.
>>
>>I can see this one going top 3 easily - and more to the point, not 
>>immediately plummeting as MSP singles usually do.
>
> I guess silence indicates agreement... :)

It indicates me being too busy to have got round to this thread yet.

BTW, just so this isn't a totally redundant post - why is this in the R1 
group?

    Chris

"Paul Hyett"  wrote in message
news:gi5t6$DKG8GGFwVc@blueyonder.co.uk...
> 'Your Love Alone Is Not Enough'
>
> Never thought I'd like an MSP single, but that has now changed! Mind you,
> the guest vocals of Nina Persson (of the Cardigans) make quite a
> difference.

I'm very much of the opinion that if you've got James Dean Bradfield in your 
band, you have no business letting outher people sing. Especially not Nicky 
Wire.

> I can see this one going top 3 easily -

Which is not a terribly brave prediction in itself...

>and more to the point, not
> immediately plummeting as MSP singles usually do.

Or at least as they have done recently. The only proviso - apart from the 
fact that I think the record is not much cop - is that this might appeal to 
a more AOR, non-single-buying demographic, thus limiting the length of its 
run. Mind you, pre-release downloads will give this at least one extra week.

    Chris

In uk.music.charts on Fri, 13 Apr 2007, Chris Brown 
 wrote :

>>>'Your Love Alone Is Not Enough'
>>>
>>>Never thought I'd like an MSP single, but that has now changed! Mind you,
>>>the guest vocals of Nina Persson (of the Cardigans) make quite a
>>>difference.
>>>
>>>I can see this one going top 3 easily - and more to the point, not
>>>immediately plummeting as MSP singles usually do.
>
>It indicates me being too busy to have got round to this thread yet.
>
>BTW, just so this isn't a totally redundant post - why is this in the R1
>group?

Because I thought it more likely to find MSP fans there, than on the R2 
one.

It's listed for the 30th Apr, and I get the feeling they're not someone 
who'll be big on downloads, so a premature appearance seems unlikely.
-- 
Paul Hyett, Cheltenham (change 'invalid83261' to 'blueyonder' to email me)

In uk.music.charts on Fri, 13 Apr 2007, Chris Brown 
 wrote :
>
>"Paul Hyett"  wrote in message
>news:gi5t6$DKG8GGFwVc@blueyonder.co.uk...
>> 'Your Love Alone Is Not Enough'
>>
>> Never thought I'd like an MSP single, but that has now changed! Mind you,
>> the guest vocals of Nina Persson (of the Cardigans) make quite a
>> difference.
>
>I'm very much of the opinion that if you've got James Dean Bradfield in your
>band, you have no business letting outher people sing.

I'm not sure what to make of this comment.
>
>> I can see this one going top 3 easily -
>
>Which is not a terribly brave prediction in itself...

Two years back, pre-download, I would have agreed - but as a 'fanbase' 
group who'll surely rely mostly on physical sales, they'll be at a 
distinct disadvantage.
>
>>and more to the point, not
>> immediately plummeting as MSP singles usually do.
>
>Or at least as they have done recently. The only proviso - apart from the
>fact that I think the record is not much cop - is that this might appeal to
>a more AOR, non-single-buying demographic, thus limiting the length of its
>run.

How could you tell? :)

>Mind you, pre-release downloads will give this at least one extra week.

But not in the top 40, I suspect.
-- 
Paul Hyett, Cheltenham (change 'invalid83261' to 'blueyonder' to email me)

"Paul Hyett"  wrote in message 
news:74ELsIFEwHIGFwWm@blueyonder.co.uk...
> In uk.music.charts on Fri, 13 Apr 2007, Chris Brown 
>  wrote :
>
>>>>'Your Love Alone Is Not Enough'
>>>>
>>>>Never thought I'd like an MSP single, but that has now changed! Mind 
>>>>you,
>>>>the guest vocals of Nina Persson (of the Cardigans) make quite a
>>>>difference.
>>>>
>>>>I can see this one going top 3 easily - and more to the point, not
>>>>immediately plummeting as MSP singles usually do.
>>
>>It indicates me being too busy to have got round to this thread yet.
>>
>>BTW, just so this isn't a totally redundant post - why is this in the R1
>>group?
>
> Because I thought it more likely to find MSP fans there, than on the R2 
> one.

Hmm... you might want to check which radio stations have playlisted the 
track, and which one has the video on its website.

> It's listed for the 30th Apr, and I get the feeling they're not someone 
> who'll be big on downloads, so a premature appearance seems unlikely.

Digital release is, AIUI, the 23rd, presumably because the record company 
hope that they can sell it to some people twice.
Further digital variants are scheduled for the 30th.

    Chris

"Paul Hyett"  wrote in message 
news:UZ1Q0IE8PmHGFwYa@blueyonder.co.uk...
> In uk.music.charts on Tue, 10 Apr 2007, Paul Hyett 
>  wrote :
>>'Your Love Alone Is Not Enough'
>>
>>Never thought I'd like an MSP single, but that has now changed! Mind you, 
>>the guest vocals of Nina Persson (of the Cardigans) make quite a 
>>difference.
>>
>>I can see this one going top 3 easily - and more to the point, not 
>>immediately plummeting as MSP singles usually do.
>
> I guess silence indicates agreement... :)

Who's Silence...? Are they a regular contributor here?

BTW - Agree completely. Bout time the Manics had a decent single!

"Paul Hyett"  wrote in message 
news:UZ1Q0IE8PmHGFwYa@blueyonder.co.uk...
> In uk.music.charts on Tue, 10 Apr 2007, Paul Hyett 
>  wrote :
>>'Your Love Alone Is Not Enough'
>>
>>Never thought I'd like an MSP single, but that has now changed! Mind you, 
>>the guest vocals of Nina Persson (of the Cardigans) make quite a 
>>difference.
>>
>>I can see this one going top 3 easily - and more to the point, not 
>>immediately plummeting as MSP singles usually do.
>
> I guess silence indicates agreement... :)

It indicates me being too busy to have got round to this thread yet.

BTW, just so this isn't a totally redundant post - why is this in the R1 
group?

    Chris

"Paul Hyett"  wrote in message
news:gi5t6$DKG8GGFwVc@blueyonder.co.uk...
> 'Your Love Alone Is Not Enough'
>
> Never thought I'd like an MSP single, but that has now changed! Mind you,
> the guest vocals of Nina Persson (of the Cardigans) make quite a
> difference.

I'm very much of the opinion that if you've got James Dean Bradfield in your 
band, you have no business letting outher people sing. Especially not Nicky 
Wire.

> I can see this one going top 3 easily -

Which is not a terribly brave prediction in itself...

>and more to the point, not
> immediately plummeting as MSP singles usually do.

Or at least as they have done recently. The only proviso - apart from the 
fact that I think the record is not much cop - is that this might appeal to 
a more AOR, non-single-buying demographic, thus limiting the length of its 
run. Mind you, pre-release downloads will give this at least one extra week.

    Chris

In uk.music.charts on Fri, 13 Apr 2007, Chris Brown 
 wrote :

>>>'Your Love Alone Is Not Enough'
>>>
>>>Never thought I'd like an MSP single, but that has now changed! Mind you,
>>>the guest vocals of Nina Persson (of the Cardigans) make quite a
>>>difference.
>>>
>>>I can see this one going top 3 easily - and more to the point, not
>>>immediately plummeting as MSP singles usually do.
>
>It indicates me being too busy to have got round to this thread yet.
>
>BTW, just so this isn't a totally redundant post - why is this in the R1
>group?

Because I thought it more likely to find MSP fans there, than on the R2 
one.

It's listed for the 30th Apr, and I get the feeling they're not someone 
who'll be big on downloads, so a premature appearance seems unlikely.
-- 
Paul Hyett, Cheltenham (change 'invalid83261' to 'blueyonder' to email me)

In uk.music.charts on Fri, 13 Apr 2007, Chris Brown 
 wrote :
>
>"Paul Hyett"  wrote in message
>news:gi5t6$DKG8GGFwVc@blueyonder.co.uk...
>> 'Your Love Alone Is Not Enough'
>>
>> Never thought I'd like an MSP single, but that has now changed! Mind you,
>> the guest vocals of Nina Persson (of the Cardigans) make quite a
>> difference.
>
>I'm very much of the opinion that if you've got James Dean Bradfield in your
>band, you have no business letting outher people sing.

I'm not sure what to make of this comment.
>
>> I can see this one going top 3 easily -
>
>Which is not a terribly brave prediction in itself...

Two years back, pre-download, I would have agreed - but as a 'fanbase' 
group who'll surely rely mostly on physical sales, they'll be at a 
distinct disadvantage.
>
>>and more to the point, not
>> immediately plummeting as MSP singles usually do.
>
>Or at least as they have done recently. The only proviso - apart from the
>fact that I think the record is not much cop - is that this might appeal to
>a more AOR, non-single-buying demographic, thus limiting the length of its
>run.

How could you tell? :)

>Mind you, pre-release downloads will give this at least one extra week.

But not in the top 40, I suspect.
-- 
Paul Hyett, Cheltenham (change 'invalid83261' to 'blueyonder' to email me)

"Paul Hyett"  wrote in message 
news:74ELsIFEwHIGFwWm@blueyonder.co.uk...
> In uk.music.charts on Fri, 13 Apr 2007, Chris Brown 
>  wrote :
>
>>>>'Your Love Alone Is Not Enough'
>>>>
>>>>Never thought I'd like an MSP single, but that has now changed! Mind 
>>>>you,
>>>>the guest vocals of Nina Persson (of the Cardigans) make quite a
>>>>difference.
>>>>
>>>>I can see this one going top 3 easily - and more to the point, not
>>>>immediately plummeting as MSP singles usually do.
>>
>>It indicates me being too busy to have got round to this thread yet.
>>
>>BTW, just so this isn't a totally redundant post - why is this in the R1
>>group?
>
> Because I thought it more likely to find MSP fans there, than on the R2 
> one.

Hmm... you might want to check which radio stations have playlisted the 
track, and which one has the video on its website.

> It's listed for the 30th Apr, and I get the feeling they're not someone 
> who'll be big on downloads, so a premature appearance seems unlikely.

Digital release is, AIUI, the 23rd, presumably because the record company 
hope that they can sell it to some people twice.
Further digital variants are scheduled for the 30th.

    Chris

"Paul Hyett"  wrote in message 
news:+obKY3F56HIGFwXy@blueyonder.co.uk...
> In uk.music.charts on Fri, 13 Apr 2007, Chris Brown 
>  wrote :
>>
>>"Paul Hyett"  wrote in message
>>news:gi5t6$DKG8GGFwVc@blueyonder.co.uk...
>>> 'Your Love Alone Is Not Enough'
>>>
>>> Never thought I'd like an MSP single, but that has now changed! Mind 
>>> you,
>>> the guest vocals of Nina Persson (of the Cardigans) make quite a
>>> difference.
>>
>>I'm very much of the opinion that if you've got James Dean Bradfield in 
>>your
>>band, you have no business letting outher people sing.
>
> I'm not sure what to make of this comment.

The propenultimate word of that sentence should have been "other" if you 
didn't guess. What I meant was that I consider Bradfield one of the greatest 
vocalists to emerge from this country in the last 20 years or so, and thus 
only letting him do half the singing is less good than letting him do all of 
it. The same applies to their previous duet (quintet? quartet?) hit, 'Little 
Baby Nothing'.

>>> I can see this one going top 3 easily -
>>
>>Which is not a terribly brave prediction in itself...
>
> Two years back, pre-download, I would have agreed - but as a 'fanbase' 
> group who'll surely rely mostly on physical sales, they'll be at a 
> distinct disadvantage.

Something of a disadvantage, to be sure, although exactly how much remains 
to be seen. Don't forget that there's at least a theorectical possibility of 
them being able to sell more copies per customer this way.
That said, I think it's a significant possiblilty that this will end up 
selling more (even in the first week) than 'The Love Of Richard Nixon', but 
charting lower. I could revise that nearer the time, mind you.

>>>and more to the point, not
>>> immediately plummeting as MSP singles usually do.
>>
>>Or at least as they have done recently. The only proviso - apart from the
>>fact that I think the record is not much cop - is that this might appeal 
>>to
>>a more AOR, non-single-buying demographic, thus limiting the length of its
>>run.
>
> How could you tell? :)

It's mainly a musical judgment, actually.

>>Mind you, pre-release downloads will give this at least one extra week.
>
> But not in the top 40, I suspect.

I don't see why not - remember that as you pointed out there's a big and 
loyal Manics fanbase out there. Who's to say they won't jump at the chance 
to get the song a week "early"?

    Chris

"Paul Hyett"  wrote in message 
news:UZ1Q0IE8PmHGFwYa@blueyonder.co.uk...
> In uk.music.charts on Tue, 10 Apr 2007, Paul Hyett 
>  wrote :
>>'Your Love Alone Is Not Enough'
>>
>>Never thought I'd like an MSP single, but that has now changed! Mind you, 
>>the guest vocals of Nina Persson (of the Cardigans) make quite a 
>>difference.
>>
>>I can see this one going top 3 easily - and more to the point, not 
>>immediately plummeting as MSP singles usually do.
>
> I guess silence indicates agreement... :)

Who's Silence...? Are they a regular contributor here?

BTW - Agree completely. Bout time the Manics had a decent single!

"Paul Hyett"  wrote in message 
news:UZ1Q0IE8PmHGFwYa@blueyonder.co.uk...
> In uk.music.charts on Tue, 10 Apr 2007, Paul Hyett 
>  wrote :
>>'Your Love Alone Is Not Enough'
>>
>>Never thought I'd like an MSP single, but that has now changed! Mind you, 
>>the guest vocals of Nina Persson (of the Cardigans) make quite a 
>>difference.
>>
>>I can see this one going top 3 easily - and more to the point, not 
>>immediately plummeting as MSP singles usually do.
>
> I guess silence indicates agreement... :)

It indicates me being too busy to have got round to this thread yet.

BTW, just so this isn't a totally redundant post - why is this in the R1 
group?

    Chris

"Paul Hyett"  wrote in message
news:gi5t6$DKG8GGFwVc@blueyonder.co.uk...
> 'Your Love Alone Is Not Enough'
>
> Never thought I'd like an MSP single, but that has now changed! Mind you,
> the guest vocals of Nina Persson (of the Cardigans) make quite a
> difference.

I'm very much of the opinion that if you've got James Dean Bradfield in your 
band, you have no business letting outher people sing. Especially not Nicky 
Wire.

> I can see this one going top 3 easily -

Which is not a terribly brave prediction in itself...

>and more to the point, not
> immediately plummeting as MSP singles usually do.

Or at least as they have done recently. The only proviso - apart from the 
fact that I think the record is not much cop - is that this might appeal to 
a more AOR, non-single-buying demographic, thus limiting the length of its 
run. Mind you, pre-release downloads will give this at least one extra week.

    Chris

In uk.music.charts on Fri, 13 Apr 2007, Chris Brown 
 wrote :

>>>'Your Love Alone Is Not Enough'
>>>
>>>Never thought I'd like an MSP single, but that has now changed! Mind you,
>>>the guest vocals of Nina Persson (of the Cardigans) make quite a
>>>difference.
>>>
>>>I can see this one going top 3 easily - and more to the point, not
>>>immediately plummeting as MSP singles usually do.
>
>It indicates me being too busy to have got round to this thread yet.
>
>BTW, just so this isn't a totally redundant post - why is this in the R1
>group?

Because I thought it more likely to find MSP fans there, than on the R2 
one.

It's listed for the 30th Apr, and I get the feeling they're not someone 
who'll be big on downloads, so a premature appearance seems unlikely.
-- 
Paul Hyett, Cheltenham (change 'invalid83261' to 'blueyonder' to email me)

In uk.music.charts on Fri, 13 Apr 2007, Chris Brown 
 wrote :
>
>"Paul Hyett"  wrote in message
>news:gi5t6$DKG8GGFwVc@blueyonder.co.uk...
>> 'Your Love Alone Is Not Enough'
>>
>> Never thought I'd like an MSP single, but that has now changed! Mind you,
>> the guest vocals of Nina Persson (of the Cardigans) make quite a
>> difference.
>
>I'm very much of the opinion that if you've got James Dean Bradfield in your
>band, you have no business letting outher people sing.

I'm not sure what to make of this comment.
>
>> I can see this one going top 3 easily -
>
>Which is not a terribly brave prediction in itself...

Two years back, pre-download, I would have agreed - but as a 'fanbase' 
group who'll surely rely mostly on physical sales, they'll be at a 
distinct disadvantage.
>
>>and more to the point, not
>> immediately plummeting as MSP singles usually do.
>
>Or at least as they have done recently. The only proviso - apart from the
>fact that I think the record is not much cop - is that this might appeal to
>a more AOR, non-single-buying demographic, thus limiting the length of its
>run.

How could you tell? :)

>Mind you, pre-release downloads will give this at least one extra week.

But not in the top 40, I suspect.
-- 
Paul Hyett, Cheltenham (change 'invalid83261' to 'blueyonder' to email me)

"Paul Hyett"  wrote in message 
news:74ELsIFEwHIGFwWm@blueyonder.co.uk...
> In uk.music.charts on Fri, 13 Apr 2007, Chris Brown 
>  wrote :
>
>>>>'Your Love Alone Is Not Enough'
>>>>
>>>>Never thought I'd like an MSP single, but that has now changed! Mind 
>>>>you,
>>>>the guest vocals of Nina Persson (of the Cardigans) make quite a
>>>>difference.
>>>>
>>>>I can see this one going top 3 easily - and more to the point, not
>>>>immediately plummeting as MSP singles usually do.
>>
>>It indicates me being too busy to have got round to this thread yet.
>>
>>BTW, just so this isn't a totally redundant post - why is this in the R1
>>group?
>
> Because I thought it more likely to find MSP fans there, than on the R2 
> one.

Hmm... you might want to check which radio stations have playlisted the 
track, and which one has the video on its website.

> It's listed for the 30th Apr, and I get the feeling they're not someone 
> who'll be big on downloads, so a premature appearance seems unlikely.

Digital release is, AIUI, the 23rd, presumably because the record company 
hope that they can sell it to some people twice.
Further digital variants are scheduled for the 30th.

    Chris

"Paul Hyett"  wrote in message 
news:+obKY3F56HIGFwXy@blueyonder.co.uk...
> In uk.music.charts on Fri, 13 Apr 2007, Chris Brown 
>  wrote :
>>
>>"Paul Hyett"  wrote in message
>>news:gi5t6$DKG8GGFwVc@blueyonder.co.uk...
>>> 'Your Love Alone Is Not Enough'
>>>
>>> Never thought I'd like an MSP single, but that has now changed! Mind 
>>> you,
>>> the guest vocals of Nina Persson (of the Cardigans) make quite a
>>> difference.
>>
>>I'm very much of the opinion that if you've got James Dean Bradfield in 
>>your
>>band, you have no business letting outher people sing.
>
> I'm not sure what to make of this comment.

The propenultimate word of that sentence should have been "other" if you 
didn't guess. What I meant was that I consider Bradfield one of the greatest 
vocalists to emerge from this country in the last 20 years or so, and thus 
only letting him do half the singing is less good than letting him do all of 
it. The same applies to their previous duet (quintet? quartet?) hit, 'Little 
Baby Nothing'.

>>> I can see this one going top 3 easily -
>>
>>Which is not a terribly brave prediction in itself...
>
> Two years back, pre-download, I would have agreed - but as a 'fanbase' 
> group who'll surely rely mostly on physical sales, they'll be at a 
> distinct disadvantage.

Something of a disadvantage, to be sure, although exactly how much remains 
to be seen. Don't forget that there's at least a theorectical possibility of 
them being able to sell more copies per customer this way.
That said, I think it's a significant possiblilty that this will end up 
selling more (even in the first week) than 'The Love Of Richard Nixon', but 
charting lower. I could revise that nearer the time, mind you.

>>>and more to the point, not
>>> immediately plummeting as MSP singles usually do.
>>
>>Or at least as they have done recently. The only proviso - apart from the
>>fact that I think the record is not much cop - is that this might appeal 
>>to
>>a more AOR, non-single-buying demographic, thus limiting the length of its
>>run.
>
> How could you tell? :)

It's mainly a musical judgment, actually.

>>Mind you, pre-release downloads will give this at least one extra week.
>
> But not in the top 40, I suspect.

I don't see why not - remember that as you pointed out there's a big and 
loyal Manics fanbase out there. Who's to say they won't jump at the chance 
to get the song a week "early"?

    Chris

"Paul Hyett"  wrote in message 
news:UZ1Q0IE8PmHGFwYa@blueyonder.co.uk...
> In uk.music.charts on Tue, 10 Apr 2007, Paul Hyett 
>  wrote :
>>'Your Love Alone Is Not Enough'
>>
>>Never thought I'd like an MSP single, but that has now changed! Mind you, 
>>the guest vocals of Nina Persson (of the Cardigans) make quite a 
>>difference.
>>
>>I can see this one going top 3 easily - and more to the point, not 
>>immediately plummeting as MSP singles usually do.
>
> I guess silence indicates agreement... :)

Who's Silence...? Are they a regular contributor here?

BTW - Agree completely. Bout time the Manics had a decent single!

"Paul Hyett"  wrote in message 
news:UZ1Q0IE8PmHGFwYa@blueyonder.co.uk...
> In uk.music.charts on Tue, 10 Apr 2007, Paul Hyett 
>  wrote :
>>'Your Love Alone Is Not Enough'
>>
>>Never thought I'd like an MSP single, but that has now changed! Mind you, 
>>the guest vocals of Nina Persson (of the Cardigans) make quite a 
>>difference.
>>
>>I can see this one going top 3 easily - and more to the point, not 
>>immediately plummeting as MSP singles usually do.
>
> I guess silence indicates agreement... :)

It indicates me being too busy to have got round to this thread yet.

BTW, just so this isn't a totally redundant post - why is this in the R1 
group?

    Chris

"Paul Hyett"  wrote in message
news:gi5t6$DKG8GGFwVc@blueyonder.co.uk...
> 'Your Love Alone Is Not Enough'
>
> Never thought I'd like an MSP single, but that has now changed! Mind you,
> the guest vocals of Nina Persson (of the Cardigans) make quite a
> difference.

I'm very much of the opinion that if you've got James Dean Bradfield in your 
band, you have no business letting outher people sing. Especially not Nicky 
Wire.

> I can see this one going top 3 easily -

Which is not a terribly brave prediction in itself...

>and more to the point, not
> immediately plummeting as MSP singles usually do.

Or at least as they have done recently. The only proviso - apart from the 
fact that I think the record is not much cop - is that this might appeal to 
a more AOR, non-single-buying demographic, thus limiting the length of its 
run. Mind you, pre-release downloads will give this at least one extra week.

    Chris

In uk.music.charts on Fri, 13 Apr 2007, Chris Brown 
 wrote :

>>>'Your Love Alone Is Not Enough'
>>>
>>>Never thought I'd like an MSP single, but that has now changed! Mind you,
>>>the guest vocals of Nina Persson (of the Cardigans) make quite a
>>>difference.
>>>
>>>I can see this one going top 3 easily - and more to the point, not
>>>immediately plummeting as MSP singles usually do.
>
>It indicates me being too busy to have got round to this thread yet.
>
>BTW, just so this isn't a totally redundant post - why is this in the R1
>group?

Because I thought it more likely to find MSP fans there, than on the R2 
one.

It's listed for the 30th Apr, and I get the feeling they're not someone 
who'll be big on downloads, so a premature appearance seems unlikely.
-- 
Paul Hyett, Cheltenham (change 'invalid83261' to 'blueyonder' to email me)

In uk.music.charts on Fri, 13 Apr 2007, Chris Brown 
 wrote :
>
>"Paul Hyett"  wrote in message
>news:gi5t6$DKG8GGFwVc@blueyonder.co.uk...
>> 'Your Love Alone Is Not Enough'
>>
>> Never thought I'd like an MSP single, but that has now changed! Mind you,
>> the guest vocals of Nina Persson (of the Cardigans) make quite a
>> difference.
>
>I'm very much of the opinion that if you've got James Dean Bradfield in your
>band, you have no business letting outher people sing.

I'm not sure what to make of this comment.
>
>> I can see this one going top 3 easily -
>
>Which is not a terribly brave prediction in itself...

Two years back, pre-download, I would have agreed - but as a 'fanbase' 
group who'll surely rely mostly on physical sales, they'll be at a 
distinct disadvantage.
>
>>and more to the point, not
>> immediately plummeting as MSP singles usually do.
>
>Or at least as they have done recently. The only proviso - apart from the
>fact that I think the record is not much cop - is that this might appeal to
>a more AOR, non-single-buying demographic, thus limiting the length of its
>run.

How could you tell? :)

>Mind you, pre-release downloads will give this at least one extra week.

But not in the top 40, I suspect.
-- 
Paul Hyett, Cheltenham (change 'invalid83261' to 'blueyonder' to email me)

"Paul Hyett"  wrote in message 
news:74ELsIFEwHIGFwWm@blueyonder.co.uk...
> In uk.music.charts on Fri, 13 Apr 2007, Chris Brown 
>  wrote :
>
>>>>'Your Love Alone Is Not Enough'
>>>>
>>>>Never thought I'd like an MSP single, but that has now changed! Mind 
>>>>you,
>>>>the guest vocals of Nina Persson (of the Cardigans) make quite a
>>>>difference.
>>>>
>>>>I can see this one going top 3 easily - and more to the point, not
>>>>immediately plummeting as MSP singles usually do.
>>
>>It indicates me being too busy to have got round to this thread yet.
>>
>>BTW, just so this isn't a totally redundant post - why is this in the R1
>>group?
>
> Because I thought it more likely to find MSP fans there, than on the R2 
> one.

Hmm... you might want to check which radio stations have playlisted the 
track, and which one has the video on its website.

> It's listed for the 30th Apr, and I get the feeling they're not someone 
> who'll be big on downloads, so a premature appearance seems unlikely.

Digital release is, AIUI, the 23rd, presumably because the record company 
hope that they can sell it to some people twice.
Further digital variants are scheduled for the 30th.

    Chris

"Paul Hyett"  wrote in message 
news:+obKY3F56HIGFwXy@blueyonder.co.uk...
> In uk.music.charts on Fri, 13 Apr 2007, Chris Brown 
>  wrote :
>>
>>"Paul Hyett"  wrote in message
>>news:gi5t6$DKG8GGFwVc@blueyonder.co.uk...
>>> 'Your Love Alone Is Not Enough'
>>>
>>> Never thought I'd like an MSP single, but that has now changed! Mind 
>>> you,
>>> the guest vocals of Nina Persson (of the Cardigans) make quite a
>>> difference.
>>
>>I'm very much of the opinion that if you've got James Dean Bradfield in 
>>your
>>band, you have no business letting outher people sing.
>
> I'm not sure what to make of this comment.

The propenultimate word of that sentence should have been "other" if you 
didn't guess. What I meant was that I consider Bradfield one of the greatest 
vocalists to emerge from this country in the last 20 years or so, and thus 
only letting him do half the singing is less good than letting him do all of 
it. The same applies to their previous duet (quintet? quartet?) hit, 'Little 
Baby Nothing'.

>>> I can see this one going top 3 easily -
>>
>>Which is not a terribly brave prediction in itself...
>
> Two years back, pre-download, I would have agreed - but as a 'fanbase' 
> group who'll surely rely mostly on physical sales, they'll be at a 
> distinct disadvantage.

Something of a disadvantage, to be sure, although exactly how much remains 
to be seen. Don't forget that there's at least a theorectical possibility of 
them being able to sell more copies per customer this way.
That said, I think it's a significant possiblilty that this will end up 
selling more (even in the first week) than 'The Love Of Richard Nixon', but 
charting lower. I could revise that nearer the time, mind you.

>>>and more to the point, not
>>> immediately plummeting as MSP singles usually do.
>>
>>Or at least as they have done recently. The only proviso - apart from the
>>fact that I think the record is not much cop - is that this might appeal 
>>to
>>a more AOR, non-single-buying demographic, thus limiting the length of its
>>run.
>
> How could you tell? :)

It's mainly a musical judgment, actually.

>>Mind you, pre-release downloads will give this at least one extra week.
>
> But not in the top 40, I suspect.

I don't see why not - remember that as you pointed out there's a big and 
loyal Manics fanbase out there. Who's to say they won't jump at the chance 
to get the song a week "early"?

    Chris

In uk.music.charts on Sat, 14 Apr 2007, Chris Brown 
 wrote :
>>>
>>>I'm very much of the opinion that if you've got James Dean Bradfield in
>>>your
>>>band, you have no business letting outher people sing.
>>
>> I'm not sure what to make of this comment.
>
>The propenultimate word of that sentence should have been "other" if you
>didn't guess.

TBH, I didn't even notice the spelling mistake. :)

>What I meant was that I consider Bradfield one of the greatest
>vocalists to emerge from this country in the last 20 years or so, and thus
>only letting him do half the singing is less good than letting him do all of
>it.

I haven't heard enough of his work to make a determination.
>
>>>> I can see this one going top 3 easily -
>>>
>>>Which is not a terribly brave prediction in itself...
>>
>> Two years back, pre-download, I would have agreed - but as a 'fanbase'
>> group who'll surely rely mostly on physical sales, they'll be at a
>> distinct disadvantage.
>
>Something of a disadvantage, to be sure, although exactly how much remains
>to be seen. Don't forget that there's at least a theorectical possibility of
>them being able to sell more copies per customer this way.
>That said, I think it's a significant possiblilty that this will end up
>selling more (even in the first week) than 'The Love Of Richard Nixon', but
>charting lower. I could revise that nearer the time, mind you.

Checking the release schedule, there doesn't look to be anything else 
significant released physically that week, so that should counteract any 
download weakness.
>
>>>Mind you, pre-release downloads will give this at least one extra week.
>>
>> But not in the top 40, I suspect.
>
>I don't see why not - remember that as you pointed out there's a big and
>loyal Manics fanbase out there.

Loyal undoubtedly, but *big*?

>Who's to say they won't jump at the chance
>to get the song a week "early"?

We'll have to wait and see.
-- 
Paul Hyett, Cheltenham (change 'invalid83261' to 'blueyonder' to email me)

"Paul Hyett"  wrote in message 
news:UZ1Q0IE8PmHGFwYa@blueyonder.co.uk...
> In uk.music.charts on Tue, 10 Apr 2007, Paul Hyett 
>  wrote :
>>'Your Love Alone Is Not Enough'
>>
>>Never thought I'd like an MSP single, but that has now changed! Mind you, 
>>the guest vocals of Nina Persson (of the Cardigans) make quite a 
>>difference.
>>
>>I can see this one going top 3 easily - and more to the point, not 
>>immediately plummeting as MSP singles usually do.
>
> I guess silence indicates agreement... :)

Who's Silence...? Are they a regular contributor here?

BTW - Agree completely. Bout time the Manics had a decent single!

"Paul Hyett"  wrote in message 
news:UZ1Q0IE8PmHGFwYa@blueyonder.co.uk...
> In uk.music.charts on Tue, 10 Apr 2007, Paul Hyett 
>  wrote :
>>'Your Love Alone Is Not Enough'
>>
>>Never thought I'd like an MSP single, but that has now changed! Mind you, 
>>the guest vocals of Nina Persson (of the Cardigans) make quite a 
>>difference.
>>
>>I can see this one going top 3 easily - and more to the point, not 
>>immediately plummeting as MSP singles usually do.
>
> I guess silence indicates agreement... :)

It indicates me being too busy to have got round to this thread yet.

BTW, just so this isn't a totally redundant post - why is this in the R1 
group?

    Chris

"Paul Hyett"  wrote in message
news:gi5t6$DKG8GGFwVc@blueyonder.co.uk...
> 'Your Love Alone Is Not Enough'
>
> Never thought I'd like an MSP single, but that has now changed! Mind you,
> the guest vocals of Nina Persson (of the Cardigans) make quite a
> difference.

I'm very much of the opinion that if you've got James Dean Bradfield in your 
band, you have no business letting outher people sing. Especially not Nicky 
Wire.

> I can see this one going top 3 easily -

Which is not a terribly brave prediction in itself...

>and more to the point, not
> immediately plummeting as MSP singles usually do.

Or at least as they have done recently. The only proviso - apart from the 
fact that I think the record is not much cop - is that this might appeal to 
a more AOR, non-single-buying demographic, thus limiting the length of its 
run. Mind you, pre-release downloads will give this at least one extra week.

    Chris

In uk.music.charts on Fri, 13 Apr 2007, Chris Brown 
 wrote :

>>>'Your Love Alone Is Not Enough'
>>>
>>>Never thought I'd like an MSP single, but that has now changed! Mind you,
>>>the guest vocals of Nina Persson (of the Cardigans) make quite a
>>>difference.
>>>
>>>I can see this one going top 3 easily - and more to the point, not
>>>immediately plummeting as MSP singles usually do.
>
>It indicates me being too busy to have got round to this thread yet.
>
>BTW, just so this isn't a totally redundant post - why is this in the R1
>group?

Because I thought it more likely to find MSP fans there, than on the R2 
one.

It's listed for the 30th Apr, and I get the feeling they're not someone 
who'll be big on downloads, so a premature appearance seems unlikely.
-- 
Paul Hyett, Cheltenham (change 'invalid83261' to 'blueyonder' to email me)

In uk.music.charts on Fri, 13 Apr 2007, Chris Brown 
 wrote :
>
>"Paul Hyett"  wrote in message
>news:gi5t6$DKG8GGFwVc@blueyonder.co.uk...
>> 'Your Love Alone Is Not Enough'
>>
>> Never thought I'd like an MSP single, but that has now changed! Mind you,
>> the guest vocals of Nina Persson (of the Cardigans) make quite a
>> difference.
>
>I'm very much of the opinion that if you've got James Dean Bradfield in your
>band, you have no business letting outher people sing.

I'm not sure what to make of this comment.
>
>> I can see this one going top 3 easily -
>
>Which is not a terribly brave prediction in itself...

Two years back, pre-download, I would have agreed - but as a 'fanbase' 
group who'll surely rely mostly on physical sales, they'll be at a 
distinct disadvantage.
>
>>and more to the point, not
>> immediately plummeting as MSP singles usually do.
>
>Or at least as they have done recently. The only proviso - apart from the
>fact that I think the record is not much cop - is that this might appeal to
>a more AOR, non-single-buying demographic, thus limiting the length of its
>run.

How could you tell? :)

>Mind you, pre-release downloads will give this at least one extra week.

But not in the top 40, I suspect.
-- 
Paul Hyett, Cheltenham (change 'invalid83261' to 'blueyonder' to email me)

"Paul Hyett"  wrote in message 
news:74ELsIFEwHIGFwWm@blueyonder.co.uk...
> In uk.music.charts on Fri, 13 Apr 2007, Chris Brown 
>  wrote :
>
>>>>'Your Love Alone Is Not Enough'
>>>>
>>>>Never thought I'd like an MSP single, but that has now changed! Mind 
>>>>you,
>>>>the guest vocals of Nina Persson (of the Cardigans) make quite a
>>>>difference.
>>>>
>>>>I can see this one going top 3 easily - and more to the point, not
>>>>immediately plummeting as MSP singles usually do.
>>
>>It indicates me being too busy to have got round to this thread yet.
>>
>>BTW, just so this isn't a totally redundant post - why is this in the R1
>>group?
>
> Because I thought it more likely to find MSP fans there, than on the R2 
> one.

Hmm... you might want to check which radio stations have playlisted the 
track, and which one has the video on its website.

> It's listed for the 30th Apr, and I get the feeling they're not someone 
> who'll be big on downloads, so a premature appearance seems unlikely.

Digital release is, AIUI, the 23rd, presumably because the record company 
hope that they can sell it to some people twice.
Further digital variants are scheduled for the 30th.

    Chris

"Paul Hyett"  wrote in message 
news:+obKY3F56HIGFwXy@blueyonder.co.uk...
> In uk.music.charts on Fri, 13 Apr 2007, Chris Brown 
>  wrote :
>>
>>"Paul Hyett"  wrote in message
>>news:gi5t6$DKG8GGFwVc@blueyonder.co.uk...
>>> 'Your Love Alone Is Not Enough'
>>>
>>> Never thought I'd like an MSP single, but that has now changed! Mind 
>>> you,
>>> the guest vocals of Nina Persson (of the Cardigans) make quite a
>>> difference.
>>
>>I'm very much of the opinion that if you've got James Dean Bradfield in 
>>your
>>band, you have no business letting outher people sing.
>
> I'm not sure what to make of this comment.

The propenultimate word of that sentence should have been "other" if you 
didn't guess. What I meant was that I consider Bradfield one of the greatest 
vocalists to emerge from this country in the last 20 years or so, and thus 
only letting him do half the singing is less good than letting him do all of 
it. The same applies to their previous duet (quintet? quartet?) hit, 'Little 
Baby Nothing'.

>>> I can see this one going top 3 easily -
>>
>>Which is not a terribly brave prediction in itself...
>
> Two years back, pre-download, I would have agreed - but as a 'fanbase' 
> group who'll surely rely mostly on physical sales, they'll be at a 
> distinct disadvantage.

Something of a disadvantage, to be sure, although exactly how much remains 
to be seen. Don't forget that there's at least a theorectical possibility of 
them being able to sell more copies per customer this way.
That said, I think it's a significant possiblilty that this will end up 
selling more (even in the first week) than 'The Love Of Richard Nixon', but 
charting lower. I could revise that nearer the time, mind you.

>>>and more to the point, not
>>> immediately plummeting as MSP singles usually do.
>>
>>Or at least as they have done recently. The only proviso - apart from the
>>fact that I think the record is not much cop - is that this might appeal 
>>to
>>a more AOR, non-single-buying demographic, thus limiting the length of its
>>run.
>
> How could you tell? :)

It's mainly a musical judgment, actually.

>>Mind you, pre-release downloads will give this at least one extra week.
>
> But not in the top 40, I suspect.

I don't see why not - remember that as you pointed out there's a big and 
loyal Manics fanbase out there. Who's to say they won't jump at the chance 
to get the song a week "early"?

    Chris

In uk.music.charts on Sat, 14 Apr 2007, Chris Brown 
 wrote :
>>>
>>>I'm very much of the opinion that if you've got James Dean Bradfield in
>>>your
>>>band, you have no business letting outher people sing.
>>
>> I'm not sure what to make of this comment.
>
>The propenultimate word of that sentence should have been "other" if you
>didn't guess.

TBH, I didn't even notice the spelling mistake. :)

>What I meant was that I consider Bradfield one of the greatest
>vocalists to emerge from this country in the last 20 years or so, and thus
>only letting him do half the singing is less good than letting him do all of
>it.

I haven't heard enough of his work to make a determination.
>
>>>> I can see this one going top 3 easily -
>>>
>>>Which is not a terribly brave prediction in itself...
>>
>> Two years back, pre-download, I would have agreed - but as a 'fanbase'
>> group who'll surely rely mostly on physical sales, they'll be at a
>> distinct disadvantage.
>
>Something of a disadvantage, to be sure, although exactly how much remains
>to be seen. Don't forget that there's at least a theorectical possibility of
>them being able to sell more copies per customer this way.
>That said, I think it's a significant possiblilty that this will end up
>selling more (even in the first week) than 'The Love Of Richard Nixon', but
>charting lower. I could revise that nearer the time, mind you.

Checking the release schedule, there doesn't look to be anything else 
significant released physically that week, so that should counteract any 
download weakness.
>
>>>Mind you, pre-release downloads will give this at least one extra week.
>>
>> But not in the top 40, I suspect.
>
>I don't see why not - remember that as you pointed out there's a big and
>loyal Manics fanbase out there.

Loyal undoubtedly, but *big*?

>Who's to say they won't jump at the chance
>to get the song a week "early"?

We'll have to wait and see.
-- 
Paul Hyett, Cheltenham (change 'invalid83261' to 'blueyonder' to email me)

"Paul Hyett"  wrote in message 
news:UZ1Q0IE8PmHGFwYa@blueyonder.co.uk...
> In uk.music.charts on Tue, 10 Apr 2007, Paul Hyett 
>  wrote :
>>'Your Love Alone Is Not Enough'
>>
>>Never thought I'd like an MSP single, but that has now changed! Mind you, 
>>the guest vocals of Nina Persson (of the Cardigans) make quite a 
>>difference.
>>
>>I can see this one going top 3 easily - and more to the point, not 
>>immediately plummeting as MSP singles usually do.
>
> I guess silence indicates agreement... :)

Who's Silence...? Are they a regular contributor here?

BTW - Agree completely. Bout time the Manics had a decent single!

"Paul Hyett"  wrote in message 
news:UZ1Q0IE8PmHGFwYa@blueyonder.co.uk...
> In uk.music.charts on Tue, 10 Apr 2007, Paul Hyett 
>  wrote :
>>'Your Love Alone Is Not Enough'
>>
>>Never thought I'd like an MSP single, but that has now changed! Mind you, 
>>the guest vocals of Nina Persson (of the Cardigans) make quite a 
>>difference.
>>
>>I can see this one going top 3 easily - and more to the point, not 
>>immediately plummeting as MSP singles usually do.
>
> I guess silence indicates agreement... :)

It indicates me being too busy to have got round to this thread yet.

BTW, just so this isn't a totally redundant post - why is this in the R1 
group?

    Chris

"Paul Hyett"  wrote in message
news:gi5t6$DKG8GGFwVc@blueyonder.co.uk...
> 'Your Love Alone Is Not Enough'
>
> Never thought I'd like an MSP single, but that has now changed! Mind you,
> the guest vocals of Nina Persson (of the Cardigans) make quite a
> difference.

I'm very much of the opinion that if you've got James Dean Bradfield in your 
band, you have no business letting outher people sing. Especially not Nicky 
Wire.

> I can see this one going top 3 easily -

Which is not a terribly brave prediction in itself...

>and more to the point, not
> immediately plummeting as MSP singles usually do.

Or at least as they have done recently. The only proviso - apart from the 
fact that I think the record is not much cop - is that this might appeal to 
a more AOR, non-single-buying demographic, thus limiting the length of its 
run. Mind you, pre-release downloads will give this at least one extra week.

    Chris

In uk.music.charts on Fri, 13 Apr 2007, Chris Brown 
 wrote :

>>>'Your Love Alone Is Not Enough'
>>>
>>>Never thought I'd like an MSP single, but that has now changed! Mind you,
>>>the guest vocals of Nina Persson (of the Cardigans) make quite a
>>>difference.
>>>
>>>I can see this one going top 3 easily - and more to the point, not
>>>immediately plummeting as MSP singles usually do.
>
>It indicates me being too busy to have got round to this thread yet.
>
>BTW, just so this isn't a totally redundant post - why is this in the R1
>group?

Because I thought it more likely to find MSP fans there, than on the R2 
one.

It's listed for the 30th Apr, and I get the feeling they're not someone 
who'll be big on downloads, so a premature appearance seems unlikely.
-- 
Paul Hyett, Cheltenham (change 'invalid83261' to 'blueyonder' to email me)

In uk.music.charts on Fri, 13 Apr 2007, Chris Brown 
 wrote :
>
>"Paul Hyett"  wrote in message
>news:gi5t6$DKG8GGFwVc@blueyonder.co.uk...
>> 'Your Love Alone Is Not Enough'
>>
>> Never thought I'd like an MSP single, but that has now changed! Mind you,
>> the guest vocals of Nina Persson (of the Cardigans) make quite a
>> difference.
>
>I'm very much of the opinion that if you've got James Dean Bradfield in your
>band, you have no business letting outher people sing.

I'm not sure what to make of this comment.
>
>> I can see this one going top 3 easily -
>
>Which is not a terribly brave prediction in itself...

Two years back, pre-download, I would have agreed - but as a 'fanbase' 
group who'll surely rely mostly on physical sales, they'll be at a 
distinct disadvantage.
>
>>and more to the point, not
>> immediately plummeting as MSP singles usually do.
>
>Or at least as they have done recently. The only proviso - apart from the
>fact that I think the record is not much cop - is that this might appeal to
>a more AOR, non-single-buying demographic, thus limiting the length of its
>run.

How could you tell? :)

>Mind you, pre-release downloads will give this at least one extra week.

But not in the top 40, I suspect.
-- 
Paul Hyett, Cheltenham (change 'invalid83261' to 'blueyonder' to email me)

"Paul Hyett"  wrote in message 
news:74ELsIFEwHIGFwWm@blueyonder.co.uk...
> In uk.music.charts on Fri, 13 Apr 2007, Chris Brown 
>  wrote :
>
>>>>'Your Love Alone Is Not Enough'
>>>>
>>>>Never thought I'd like an MSP single, but that has now changed! Mind 
>>>>you,
>>>>the guest vocals of Nina Persson (of the Cardigans) make quite a
>>>>difference.
>>>>
>>>>I can see this one going top 3 easily - and more to the point, not
>>>>immediately plummeting as MSP singles usually do.
>>
>>It indicates me being too busy to have got round to this thread yet.
>>
>>BTW, just so this isn't a totally redundant post - why is this in the R1
>>group?
>
> Because I thought it more likely to find MSP fans there, than on the R2 
> one.

Hmm... you might want to check which radio stations have playlisted the 
track, and which one has the video on its website.

> It's listed for the 30th Apr, and I get the feeling they're not someone 
> who'll be big on downloads, so a premature appearance seems unlikely.

Digital release is, AIUI, the 23rd, presumably because the record company 
hope that they can sell it to some people twice.
Further digital variants are scheduled for the 30th.

    Chris

"Paul Hyett"  wrote in message 
news:+obKY3F56HIGFwXy@blueyonder.co.uk...
> In uk.music.charts on Fri, 13 Apr 2007, Chris Brown 
>  wrote :
>>
>>"Paul Hyett"  wrote in message
>>news:gi5t6$DKG8GGFwVc@blueyonder.co.uk...
>>> 'Your Love Alone Is Not Enough'
>>>
>>> Never thought I'd like an MSP single, but that has now changed! Mind 
>>> you,
>>> the guest vocals of Nina Persson (of the Cardigans) make quite a
>>> difference.
>>
>>I'm very much of the opinion that if you've got James Dean Bradfield in 
>>your
>>band, you have no business letting outher people sing.
>
> I'm not sure what to make of this comment.

The propenultimate word of that sentence should have been "other" if you 
didn't guess. What I meant was that I consider Bradfield one of the greatest 
vocalists to emerge from this country in the last 20 years or so, and thus 
only letting him do half the singing is less good than letting him do all of 
it. The same applies to their previous duet (quintet? quartet?) hit, 'Little 
Baby Nothing'.

>>> I can see this one going top 3 easily -
>>
>>Which is not a terribly brave prediction in itself...
>
> Two years back, pre-download, I would have agreed - but as a 'fanbase' 
> group who'll surely rely mostly on physical sales, they'll be at a 
> distinct disadvantage.

Something of a disadvantage, to be sure, although exactly how much remains 
to be seen. Don't forget that there's at least a theorectical possibility of 
them being able to sell more copies per customer this way.
That said, I think it's a significant possiblilty that this will end up 
selling more (even in the first week) than 'The Love Of Richard Nixon', but 
charting lower. I could revise that nearer the time, mind you.

>>>and more to the point, not
>>> immediately plummeting as MSP singles usually do.
>>
>>Or at least as they have done recently. The only proviso - apart from the
>>fact that I think the record is not much cop - is that this might appeal 
>>to
>>a more AOR, non-single-buying demographic, thus limiting the length of its
>>run.
>
> How could you tell? :)

It's mainly a musical judgment, actually.

>>Mind you, pre-release downloads will give this at least one extra week.
>
> But not in the top 40, I suspect.

I don't see why not - remember that as you pointed out there's a big and 
loyal Manics fanbase out there. Who's to say they won't jump at the chance 
to get the song a week "early"?

    Chris

In uk.music.charts on Sat, 14 Apr 2007, Chris Brown 
 wrote :
>>>
>>>I'm very much of the opinion that if you've got James Dean Bradfield in
>>>your
>>>band, you have no business letting outher people sing.
>>
>> I'm not sure what to make of this comment.
>
>The propenultimate word of that sentence should have been "other" if you
>didn't guess.

TBH, I didn't even notice the spelling mistake. :)

>What I meant was that I consider Bradfield one of the greatest
>vocalists to emerge from this country in the last 20 years or so, and thus
>only letting him do half the singing is less good than letting him do all of
>it.

I haven't heard enough of his work to make a determination.
>
>>>> I can see this one going top 3 easily -
>>>
>>>Which is not a terribly brave prediction in itself...
>>
>> Two years back, pre-download, I would have agreed - but as a 'fanbase'
>> group who'll surely rely mostly on physical sales, they'll be at a
>> distinct disadvantage.
>
>Something of a disadvantage, to be sure, although exactly how much remains
>to be seen. Don't forget that there's at least a theorectical possibility of
>them being able to sell more copies per customer this way.
>That said, I think it's a significant possiblilty that this will end up
>selling more (even in the first week) than 'The Love Of Richard Nixon', but
>charting lower. I could revise that nearer the time, mind you.

Checking the release schedule, there doesn't look to be anything else 
significant released physically that week, so that should counteract any 
download weakness.
>
>>>Mind you, pre-release downloads will give this at least one extra week.
>>
>> But not in the top 40, I suspect.
>
>I don't see why not - remember that as you pointed out there's a big and
>loyal Manics fanbase out there.

Loyal undoubtedly, but *big*?

>Who's to say they won't jump at the chance
>to get the song a week "early"?

We'll have to wait and see.
-- 
Paul Hyett, Cheltenham (change 'invalid83261' to 'blueyonder' to email me)

"Paul Hyett"  wrote in message 
news:HUFE3IGD8bIGFwTu@blueyonder.co.uk...
> In uk.music.charts on Sat, 14 Apr 2007, Chris Brown 
>  wrote :
>>>>

>>What I meant was that I consider Bradfield one of the greatest
>>vocalists to emerge from this country in the last 20 years or so, and thus
>>only letting him do half the singing is less good than letting him do all 
>>of
>>it.
>
> I haven't heard enough of his work to make a determination.

Obviously, it's a matter of opinion. But even if you don't think he's the 
best singer in the country, he's certainly the best one in the Manics...

>>>>> I can see this one going top 3 easily -
>>>>
>>>>Which is not a terribly brave prediction in itself...
>>>
>>> Two years back, pre-download, I would have agreed - but as a 'fanbase'
>>> group who'll surely rely mostly on physical sales, they'll be at a
>>> distinct disadvantage.
>>
>>Something of a disadvantage, to be sure, although exactly how much remains
>>to be seen. Don't forget that there's at least a theorectical possibility 
>>of
>>them being able to sell more copies per customer this way.
>>That said, I think it's a significant possiblilty that this will end up
>>selling more (even in the first week) than 'The Love Of Richard Nixon', 
>>but
>>charting lower. I could revise that nearer the time, mind you.
>
> Checking the release schedule, there doesn't look to be anything else 
> significant released physically that week, so that should counteract any 
> download weakness.

Up to a point, yes, but I'd like to see what the Top 3 are the week before, 
prior to making a definitive pronouncement.

>>>>Mind you, pre-release downloads will give this at least one extra week.
>>>
>>> But not in the top 40, I suspect.
>>
>>I don't see why not - remember that as you pointed out there's a big and
>>loyal Manics fanbase out there.
>
> Loyal undoubtedly, but *big*?

Most of the original fans are in the thirties now, they're bound to have 
filled out a bit. ;-)
I think it is a sizeable enough one - remember that they had 14 Top 40 
singles in 1991-94, back in the days before they got played on the radio 
regularly.

>>Who's to say they won't jump at the chance
>>to get the song a week "early"?
>
> We'll have to wait and see.

We will indeed, as there's no real past form to go on here.

    Chris

"Paul Hyett"  wrote in message 
news:UZ1Q0IE8PmHGFwYa@blueyonder.co.uk...
> In uk.music.charts on Tue, 10 Apr 2007, Paul Hyett 
>  wrote :
>>'Your Love Alone Is Not Enough'
>>
>>Never thought I'd like an MSP single, but that has now changed! Mind you, 
>>the guest vocals of Nina Persson (of the Cardigans) make quite a 
>>difference.
>>
>>I can see this one going top 3 easily - and more to the point, not 
>>immediately plummeting as MSP singles usually do.
>
> I guess silence indicates agreement... :)

Who's Silence...? Are they a regular contributor here?

BTW - Agree completely. Bout time the Manics had a decent single!

"Paul Hyett"  wrote in message 
news:UZ1Q0IE8PmHGFwYa@blueyonder.co.uk...
> In uk.music.charts on Tue, 10 Apr 2007, Paul Hyett 
>  wrote :
>>'Your Love Alone Is Not Enough'
>>
>>Never thought I'd like an MSP single, but that has now changed! Mind you, 
>>the guest vocals of Nina Persson (of the Cardigans) make quite a 
>>difference.
>>
>>I can see this one going top 3 easily - and more to the point, not 
>>immediately plummeting as MSP singles usually do.
>
> I guess silence indicates agreement... :)

It indicates me being too busy to have got round to this thread yet.

BTW, just so this isn't a totally redundant post - why is this in the R1 
group?

    Chris

"Paul Hyett"  wrote in message
news:gi5t6$DKG8GGFwVc@blueyonder.co.uk...
> 'Your Love Alone Is Not Enough'
>
> Never thought I'd like an MSP single, but that has now changed! Mind you,
> the guest vocals of Nina Persson (of the Cardigans) make quite a
> difference.

I'm very much of the opinion that if you've got James Dean Bradfield in your 
band, you have no business letting outher people sing. Especially not Nicky 
Wire.

> I can see this one going top 3 easily -

Which is not a terribly brave prediction in itself...

>and more to the point, not
> immediately plummeting as MSP singles usually do.

Or at least as they have done recently. The only proviso - apart from the 
fact that I think the record is not much cop - is that this might appeal to 
a more AOR, non-single-buying demographic, thus limiting the length of its 
run. Mind you, pre-release downloads will give this at least one extra week.

    Chris

In uk.music.charts on Fri, 13 Apr 2007, Chris Brown 
 wrote :

>>>'Your Love Alone Is Not Enough'
>>>
>>>Never thought I'd like an MSP single, but that has now changed! Mind you,
>>>the guest vocals of Nina Persson (of the Cardigans) make quite a
>>>difference.
>>>
>>>I can see this one going top 3 easily - and more to the point, not
>>>immediately plummeting as MSP singles usually do.
>
>It indicates me being too busy to have got round to this thread yet.
>
>BTW, just so this isn't a totally redundant post - why is this in the R1
>group?

Because I thought it more likely to find MSP fans there, than on the R2 
one.

It's listed for the 30th Apr, and I get the feeling they're not someone 
who'll be big on downloads, so a premature appearance seems unlikely.
-- 
Paul Hyett, Cheltenham (change 'invalid83261' to 'blueyonder' to email me)

In uk.music.charts on Fri, 13 Apr 2007, Chris Brown 
 wrote :
>
>"Paul Hyett"  wrote in message
>news:gi5t6$DKG8GGFwVc@blueyonder.co.uk...
>> 'Your Love Alone Is Not Enough'
>>
>> Never thought I'd like an MSP single, but that has now changed! Mind you,
>> the guest vocals of Nina Persson (of the Cardigans) make quite a
>> difference.
>
>I'm very much of the opinion that if you've got James Dean Bradfield in your
>band, you have no business letting outher people sing.

I'm not sure what to make of this comment.
>
>> I can see this one going top 3 easily -
>
>Which is not a terribly brave prediction in itself...

Two years back, pre-download, I would have agreed - but as a 'fanbase' 
group who'll surely rely mostly on physical sales, they'll be at a 
distinct disadvantage.
>
>>and more to the point, not
>> immediately plummeting as MSP singles usually do.
>
>Or at least as they have done recently. The only proviso - apart from the
>fact that I think the record is not much cop - is that this might appeal to
>a more AOR, non-single-buying demographic, thus limiting the length of its
>run.

How could you tell? :)

>Mind you, pre-release downloads will give this at least one extra week.

But not in the top 40, I suspect.
-- 
Paul Hyett, Cheltenham (change 'invalid83261' to 'blueyonder' to email me)

"Paul Hyett"  wrote in message 
news:74ELsIFEwHIGFwWm@blueyonder.co.uk...
> In uk.music.charts on Fri, 13 Apr 2007, Chris Brown 
>  wrote :
>
>>>>'Your Love Alone Is Not Enough'
>>>>
>>>>Never thought I'd like an MSP single, but that has now changed! Mind 
>>>>you,
>>>>the guest vocals of Nina Persson (of the Cardigans) make quite a
>>>>difference.
>>>>
>>>>I can see this one going top 3 easily - and more to the point, not
>>>>immediately plummeting as MSP singles usually do.
>>
>>It indicates me being too busy to have got round to this thread yet.
>>
>>BTW, just so this isn't a totally redundant post - why is this in the R1
>>group?
>
> Because I thought it more likely to find MSP fans there, than on the R2 
> one.

Hmm... you might want to check which radio stations have playlisted the 
track, and which one has the video on its website.

> It's listed for the 30th Apr, and I get the feeling they're not someone 
> who'll be big on downloads, so a premature appearance seems unlikely.

Digital release is, AIUI, the 23rd, presumably because the record company 
hope that they can sell it to some people twice.
Further digital variants are scheduled for the 30th.

    Chris

"Paul Hyett"  wrote in message 
news:+obKY3F56HIGFwXy@blueyonder.co.uk...
> In uk.music.charts on Fri, 13 Apr 2007, Chris Brown 
>  wrote :
>>
>>"Paul Hyett"  wrote in message
>>news:gi5t6$DKG8GGFwVc@blueyonder.co.uk...
>>> 'Your Love Alone Is Not Enough'
>>>
>>> Never thought I'd like an MSP single, but that has now changed! Mind 
>>> you,
>>> the guest vocals of Nina Persson (of the Cardigans) make quite a
>>> difference.
>>
>>I'm very much of the opinion that if you've got James Dean Bradfield in 
>>your
>>band, you have no business letting outher people sing.
>
> I'm not sure what to make of this comment.

The propenultimate word of that sentence should have been "other" if you 
didn't guess. What I meant was that I consider Bradfield one of the greatest 
vocalists to emerge from this country in the last 20 years or so, and thus 
only letting him do half the singing is less good than letting him do all of 
it. The same applies to their previous duet (quintet? quartet?) hit, 'Little 
Baby Nothing'.

>>> I can see this one going top 3 easily -
>>
>>Which is not a terribly brave prediction in itself...
>
> Two years back, pre-download, I would have agreed - but as a 'fanbase' 
> group who'll surely rely mostly on physical sales, they'll be at a 
> distinct disadvantage.

Something of a disadvantage, to be sure, although exactly how much remains 
to be seen. Don't forget that there's at least a theorectical possibility of 
them being able to sell more copies per customer this way.
That said, I think it's a significant possiblilty that this will end up 
selling more (even in the first week) than 'The Love Of Richard Nixon', but 
charting lower. I could revise that nearer the time, mind you.

>>>and more to the point, not
>>> immediately plummeting as MSP singles usually do.
>>
>>Or at least as they have done recently. The only proviso - apart from the
>>fact that I think the record is not much cop - is that this might appeal 
>>to
>>a more AOR, non-single-buying demographic, thus limiting the length of its
>>run.
>
> How could you tell? :)

It's mainly a musical judgment, actually.

>>Mind you, pre-release downloads will give this at least one extra week.
>
> But not in the top 40, I suspect.

I don't see why not - remember that as you pointed out there's a big and 
loyal Manics fanbase out there. Who's to say they won't jump at the chance 
to get the song a week "early"?

    Chris

In uk.music.charts on Sat, 14 Apr 2007, Chris Brown 
 wrote :
>>>
>>>I'm very much of the opinion that if you've got James Dean Bradfield in
>>>your
>>>band, you have no business letting outher people sing.
>>
>> I'm not sure what to make of this comment.
>
>The propenultimate word of that sentence should have been "other" if you
>didn't guess.