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date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 12:45:42 +0100,    group: uk.media.radio.archers        back       
Re: Burying Mrs T (was Gordon and food waste)   
In message , Alex 
<dontspamme@spamoff.?.invalid> writes
>
>"J. P. Gilliver (John)"  wrote in message 
>news:FmBorEhDwbgIFwoz@soft255.demon.co.uk...
>> In message , Alex Koval 
>><dontspamme@spamoff.?.invalid> writes
><snip>
>. However, as anotherrat has said further up
>> this thread, very little of what was done has been undone, and you 
>>could  ask why not ... but that discussion (which rapidly just becomes 
>>an  argument rather than a discussion) will never end.
>>
>
>I find that very strange as a defence of Thatcherism. I'd like to hear

I don't like the term Thatcherism (or Blairism or anything similar); 
they're _always_ used negatively. Not only that, but they (usually - 
maybe not in this case) imply a reluctance to think beyond the 
labelling.

>specifics. What exactly would people expect to be "undone?" The reasons

Well, just to pick a few examples: the privatisations, and some of the 
(some would say anti-) union legislation, such as controls on democracy, 
closed shops, and contributions. (FWIW, I thought at the time that 
something similar should have been introduced so that shareholders had 
to specifically and individually endorse any political contributions by 
companies; I can't remember whether this ever happened, under either 
colour of government.) But I'm sure there are lots of examples of things 
that at times oppositions have _implied_ they're going to reverse, but 
haven't happened.

>for not "undoing" her "work" are basically the same as for any

(Not "her")

>government. There's a lot of tinkering with the system but very few 
>real reversals. Most things simply can't be "undone," either because 
>it's physically impossible, or so expensive and difficult as to be

Hmm. You could forcibly nationalise ... (very draconian though ...)

>impractical. You've also got to factor in that people get use to 
>legislation brought in over a lengthy period of time and are resistant 
>to change.

Yes: I'd say a LOT of that has happened over the last decade. 
(Incidentally, I don't think that's a specifically Labour government 
thing; much of what's happened - reduction of civil liberties, data 
collection, etc. - I tend to associate more with the right, though in 
practice it's probably mainly due to pressure from people who are 
unelected and thus of neither colour.)
[]
>> I had never heard that one - VERY peculiar!
>> --
>
>From the cult classic "Maggie and the Farmer" by Sean Brady. I'm 
>currently listening to his "The Thatcher Song."
>
>
>Alex
>"Maggie Thatcher you can't match her she's the darling of us all
>She's the curse of the Irish Nation Fine Gael and Fianna Fail
>She's destroyed me hire purchase and she's put me on the dole
>If I could only get my hands on her I'd kick her up the----"
>
(I've been trying to guess the last word - _does_ it rhyme with Fail, in 
either pronunciation?)
-- 
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G.5AL(+++)IS-P--Ch+(p)Ar+T[?]H+Sh0!:`)DNAf
** http://www.soft255.demon.co.uk/G6JPG-PC/JPGminPC.htm for thoughts on PCs. **

The opposite of a correct statement is a false statement. But the opposite of a
profound truth may well be another profound truth. -Niels Bohr, physicist
(1885-1962)
date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 12:45:42 +0100   author:   J. P. Gilliver (John)

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