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date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 09:52:44 +0100,
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OT: FedUp Again
Yesterday's prog featured some womaon defending bad language on
rajo because bad language is widely used in RL and if rajo
didn't use bad language it wouldn't be a reflection of RL.
AIAOU in wondering *why* rajo should have to reflect RL rather
than setting a good example by *not* reflecting the less
desirable aspects of RL?
Anne B
To reply replace the rock with my surname
date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 09:52:44 +0100
author: Anne Burgess
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Re: OT: FedUp Again
Anne Burgess wrote:
> Yesterday's prog featured some womaon defending bad language on
> rajo because bad language is widely used in RL and if rajo
> didn't use bad language it wouldn't be a reflection of RL.
>
> AIAOU in wondering *why* rajo should have to reflect RL rather
> than setting a good example by *not* reflecting the less
> desirable aspects of RL?
That isn't quite what she said. Someone complained about bad language on
Radio 4. She simply said that Radio 4 used very little bad language
compared with real life. I didn't hear her calling for radio to reflect
real life but saying that it didn't reflect real life in that one aspect.
Colin
date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 10:53:06 +0100
author: Colin Blackburn
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Re: OT: FedUp Again
Anne Burgess wrote:
> Yesterday's prog featured some womaon defending bad language on
> rajo because bad language is widely used in RL and if rajo
> didn't use bad language it wouldn't be a reflection of RL.
>
> AIAOU in wondering *why* rajo should have to reflect RL rather
> than setting a good example by *not* reflecting the less
> desirable aspects of RL?
I can't recall hearing much strong language on Radio 4, to be honest.
The only occasions that spring to mind are in some of the comedies,
which is fair enough. I don't listen to much of the drama, but if it is
appropriate then it should be used with a warning at the start as they
do on the telly.
--
neil h
google brights
date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 10:56:11 +0100
author: Neil Hopkins
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Re: OT: FedUp Again
In message , Neil Hopkins
writes
>Anne Burgess wrote:
>> Yesterday's prog featured some womaon defending bad language on rajo
>>because bad language is widely used in RL and if rajo didn't use bad
>>language it wouldn't be a reflection of RL.
>> AIAOU in wondering *why* rajo should have to reflect RL rather than
>>setting a good example by *not* reflecting the less desirable aspects
>>of RL?
>
>I can't recall hearing much strong language on Radio 4, to be honest.
>The only occasions that spring to mind are in some of the comedies,
>which is fair enough. I don't listen to much of the drama, but if it is
>appropriate then it should be used with a warning at the start as they
>do on the telly.
>
>
(I was about to say I don't think there _is_ a lot on R4, but I hadn't
thought of drama; good point. Not sure about the warning, though: if it
truly is appropriate to the plot, then it is appropriate.)
I think the sort of people - mostly - who actually listen to R4 are
those who do not swear that much - and the level on R4 I would say
broadly reflects this. I can't speak for other stations (I think R2, and
certainly R3, are similarly light on swearing), as I don't on the whole
listen to them; it could be argued that _more_ swearing should be
allowed on the stations listened to by people for whom swearing is more
a way of life.
And the above is (a) not intended to be condescending (b) a
generalisation I know.
--
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"I never trust a woman until she rejects me" - Woody Allen, 1999
date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 11:27:10 +0100
author: J. P. Gilliver (John)
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Re: OT: FedUp Again
Neil Hopkins wrote:
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> I can't recall hearing much strong language on Radio 4, to be honest.
> The only occasions that spring to mind are in some of the comedies,
> which is fair enough. I don't listen to much of the drama, but if it is
> appropriate then it should be used with a warning at the start as they
> do on the telly.
The quantity went up quite significantly this morning on Broadcasting
House with some quite gratuitous swearing from assorted musicians and
comedians from some sort of festival at Southwold. Quite put me off my
Bauern Frühstück.
date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 11:52:15 +0200
author: David Eyre lid
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Re: OT: FedUp Again
On Sun, 20 Jul 2008 11:52:15 +0200, David Eyre <user@invalid.invalid>
wrote:
>Neil Hopkins wrote:
>>
>> I can't recall hearing much strong language on Radio 4, to be honest.
>> The only occasions that spring to mind are in some of the comedies,
>> which is fair enough. I don't listen to much of the drama, but if it is
>> appropriate then it should be used with a warning at the start as they
>> do on the telly.
>
>The quantity went up quite significantly this morning on Broadcasting
>House with some quite gratuitous swearing from assorted musicians and
>comedians from some sort of festival at Southwold. Quite put me off my
>Bauern Frühstück
There was quite a lot of it on r3 last night in the late night prom
from Nigel Kennedy with his jazz quartet (this was after he'd already
appeared in the main evening prom and delighted people with the Elgar
concerto). And he seemed to have two different voices, the more
high-pitvhed one for when he was talking in ordinary Estuary English,
and a deeper one when introducing his players because they all had
Polish names, and he sounded as though he was either being pretentious
or taking the pee, or maybe both - notwithstanding all this the music
was excellent even though much of it was a style that we'd normally
have decided to turn off.
He certainly sounded as though he was enjoying himself tremendously. I
hadn't realised it had been as long as 25 years since he was last at
the proms.
lff
date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 14:24:29 GMT
author: Linda Fox
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Re: OT: FedUp Again
>There was quite a lot of it on r3 last night in the late night prom
>from Nigel Kennedy with his jazz quartet (this was after he'd already
>appeared in the main evening prom and delighted people with the Elgar
>concerto). [...]
i think the best performance of the elgar i've ever heard. breathtaking.
>He certainly sounded as though he was enjoying himself tremendously. I
>hadn't realised it had been as long as 25 years since he was last at
>the proms.
21 years. i think he's growing up ;-)
--
Robin Fairbairns, Cambridge
date: 20 Jul 2008 17:29:51 GMT
author: (Robin Fairbairns)
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Re: OT: FedUp Again
In message <g5vsmf$nan$1@gemini.csx.cam.ac.uk>, Robin Fairbairns
writes
>>There was quite a lot of it on r3 last night in the late night prom
>>from Nigel Kennedy with his jazz quartet (this was after he'd already
>>appeared in the main evening prom and delighted people with the Elgar
>>concerto). [...]
>
>i think the best performance of the elgar i've ever heard. breathtaking.
>
Not a Nigel Kennedy fan particularly, but I'll listen to anyone playing
anything by Elgar.
Resolution made for me thanks to our neighbours who've taken up pressure
washing their taxis every evening. Don't listen to trannie and read
umra: too much outside noise: missed most of the Elgar detail. Leave
computer and go and use digital radio. Could do wonders for my posts.
>
>21 years. i think he's growing up ;-)
21 years ago I don't think I really knew or cared who Nigel Kennedy was.
Heaven was being able to hear even *one* piece played in a prom via
radio.
Sincerely Chris
--
Chris McMillan
http://www.chinavision.org.uk/
http://www.oneplusone.org.cn
date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 20:04:37 +0100
author: chris mcmillan
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