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date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 09:52:44 +0100,    group: uk.media.radio.archers        back       
OT: FedUp Again   
Yesterday's prog featured some womaon defending bad language on 
rajo because bad language is widely used in RL and if rajo 
didn't use bad language it wouldn't be a reflection of RL.

AIAOU in wondering *why* rajo should have to reflect RL rather 
than setting a good example by *not* reflecting the less 
desirable aspects of RL?

Anne B
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date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 09:52:44 +0100   author:   Anne Burgess

Re: OT: FedUp Again   
Anne Burgess wrote:
> Yesterday's prog featured some womaon defending bad language on 
> rajo because bad language is widely used in RL and if rajo 
> didn't use bad language it wouldn't be a reflection of RL.
> 
> AIAOU in wondering *why* rajo should have to reflect RL rather 
> than setting a good example by *not* reflecting the less 
> desirable aspects of RL?

That isn't quite what she said. Someone complained about bad language on 
Radio 4. She simply said that Radio 4 used very little bad language 
compared with real life. I didn't hear her calling for radio to reflect 
real life but saying that it didn't reflect real life in that one aspect.

Colin
date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 10:53:06 +0100   author:   Colin Blackburn

Re: OT: FedUp Again   
Anne Burgess wrote:
> Yesterday's prog featured some womaon defending bad language on 
> rajo because bad language is widely used in RL and if rajo 
> didn't use bad language it wouldn't be a reflection of RL.
> 
> AIAOU in wondering *why* rajo should have to reflect RL rather 
> than setting a good example by *not* reflecting the less 
> desirable aspects of RL?

I can't recall hearing much strong language on Radio 4, to be honest. 
The only occasions that spring to mind are in some of the comedies, 
which is fair enough. I don't listen to much of the drama, but if it is 
appropriate then it should be used with a warning at the start as they 
do on the telly.


-- 
neil h
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date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 10:56:11 +0100   author:   Neil Hopkins

Re: OT: FedUp Again   
In message , Neil Hopkins 
 writes
>Anne Burgess wrote:
>> Yesterday's prog featured some womaon defending bad language on  rajo 
>>because bad language is widely used in RL and if rajo  didn't use bad 
>>language it wouldn't be a reflection of RL.
>>  AIAOU in wondering *why* rajo should have to reflect RL rather  than 
>>setting a good example by *not* reflecting the less  desirable aspects 
>>of RL?
>
>I can't recall hearing much strong language on Radio 4, to be honest. 
>The only occasions that spring to mind are in some of the comedies, 
>which is fair enough. I don't listen to much of the drama, but if it is 
>appropriate then it should be used with a warning at the start as they 
>do on the telly.
>
>
(I was about to say I don't think there _is_ a lot on R4, but I hadn't 
thought of drama; good point. Not sure about the warning, though: if it 
truly is appropriate to the plot, then it is appropriate.)

I think the sort of people - mostly - who actually listen to R4 are 
those who do not swear that much - and the level on R4 I would say 
broadly reflects this. I can't speak for other stations (I think R2, and 
certainly R3, are similarly light on swearing), as I don't on the whole 
listen to them; it could be argued that _more_ swearing should be 
allowed on the stations listened to by people for whom swearing is more 
a way of life.

And the above is (a) not intended to be condescending (b) a 
generalisation I know.
-- 
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"I never trust a woman until she rejects me" - Woody Allen, 1999
date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 11:27:10 +0100   author:   J. P. Gilliver (John)

Re: OT: FedUp Again   
Neil Hopkins wrote:
> 
> I can't recall hearing much strong language on Radio 4, to be honest. 
> The only occasions that spring to mind are in some of the comedies, 
> which is fair enough. I don't listen to much of the drama, but if it is 
> appropriate then it should be used with a warning at the start as they 
> do on the telly.

The quantity went up quite significantly this morning on Broadcasting 
House with some quite gratuitous swearing from assorted musicians and 
comedians from some sort of festival at Southwold. Quite put me off my 
Bauern Frühstück.
date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 11:52:15 +0200   author:   David Eyre lid

Re: OT: FedUp Again   
On Sun, 20 Jul 2008 11:52:15 +0200, David Eyre <user@invalid.invalid>
wrote:

>Neil Hopkins wrote:
>> 
>> I can't recall hearing much strong language on Radio 4, to be honest. 
>> The only occasions that spring to mind are in some of the comedies, 
>> which is fair enough. I don't listen to much of the drama, but if it is 
>> appropriate then it should be used with a warning at the start as they 
>> do on the telly.
>
>The quantity went up quite significantly this morning on Broadcasting 
>House with some quite gratuitous swearing from assorted musicians and 
>comedians from some sort of festival at Southwold. Quite put me off my 
>Bauern Frühstück

There was quite a lot of it on r3 last night in the late night prom
from Nigel Kennedy with his jazz quartet (this was after he'd already
appeared in the main evening prom and delighted people with the Elgar
concerto). And he seemed to have two different voices, the more
high-pitvhed one for when he was talking in ordinary Estuary English,
and a deeper one when introducing his players because they all had
Polish names, and he sounded as though he was either being pretentious
or taking the pee, or maybe both - notwithstanding all this the music
was excellent even though much of it was a style that we'd normally
have decided to turn off.

He certainly sounded as though he was enjoying himself tremendously. I
hadn't realised it had been as long as 25 years since he was last at
the proms.

lff
date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 14:24:29 GMT   author:   Linda Fox

Re: OT: FedUp Again   
>There was quite a lot of it on r3 last night in the late night prom
>from Nigel Kennedy with his jazz quartet (this was after he'd already
>appeared in the main evening prom and delighted people with the Elgar
>concerto). [...]

i think the best performance of the elgar i've ever heard.  breathtaking.

>He certainly sounded as though he was enjoying himself tremendously. I
>hadn't realised it had been as long as 25 years since he was last at
>the proms.

21 years.  i think he's growing up ;-)
-- 
Robin Fairbairns, Cambridge
date: 20 Jul 2008 17:29:51 GMT   author:   (Robin Fairbairns)

Re: OT: FedUp Again   
In message <g5vsmf$nan$1@gemini.csx.cam.ac.uk>, Robin Fairbairns 
 writes
>>There was quite a lot of it on r3 last night in the late night prom
>>from Nigel Kennedy with his jazz quartet (this was after he'd already
>>appeared in the main evening prom and delighted people with the Elgar
>>concerto). [...]
>
>i think the best performance of the elgar i've ever heard.  breathtaking.
>
Not a Nigel Kennedy fan particularly, but I'll listen to anyone playing 
anything by Elgar.

Resolution made for me thanks to our neighbours who've taken up pressure 
washing their taxis every evening.  Don't listen to trannie and read 
umra: too much outside noise: missed most of the Elgar detail.  Leave 
computer and go and use digital radio.  Could do wonders for my posts.
 >
>21 years.  i think he's growing up ;-)

21 years ago I don't think I really knew or cared who Nigel Kennedy was. 
Heaven was being able to hear even *one* piece played in a prom via 
radio.

Sincerely Chris
-- 
Chris McMillan
http://www.chinavision.org.uk/
http://www.oneplusone.org.cn
date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 20:04:37 +0100   author:   chris mcmillan

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