I thought everywhere sold balls of string.
Visited wofe at her guide camp today, the other side of Cheltenham.
We need more loo rolls and some balls of string.
I hneaded in towards Cheltenham - a place I'd rather avoid - I got
lost the last time attempted to go shopping there.

Found a local convenience store - no string.
Six likely shops later - still no string.
Found a big new Sainsburys - no string, but bought loads of loo rolls
and the butchery dept had some plastic twine they very generously
donated to the guides.
On returning to the car I thought I'd better get proper string.
An hour later (and a billion shops later) I came across a Homebase and
acheived my goal.

Two and a half hours on a glourious Saturday afternoon.
I could've driven back to Malvern and bought it our village post
office and returned in half that time.

What is the world coming to when a chap cn't buy a bit of string?

Oh yes. When I got back to the guide camp they found they had enough
anyway.

Calm down Bob, calm down....

On Sat, 28 Jun 2008 10:49:28 -0700 (PDT), Bob E
 wrote:

>I thought everywhere sold balls of string.
>Visited wofe at her guide camp today, the other side of Cheltenham.
>We need more loo rolls and some balls of string.
>I hneaded in towards Cheltenham - a place I'd rather avoid - I got
>lost the last time attempted to go shopping there.
>
>Found a local convenience store - no string.
>Six likely shops later - still no string.

Woolworths, WH Smith, Rymans, Robert Dyas ...




-- 
Regards, Paul Herber, Sandrila Ltd.
http://www.sandrila.co.uk/              http://www.pherber.com/

Paul Herber wrote:
> On Sat, 28 Jun 2008 10:49:28 -0700 (PDT), Bob E
>  wrote:
>
>> I thought everywhere sold balls of string.
>> Visited wofe at her guide camp today, the other side of Cheltenham.
>> We need more loo rolls and some balls of string.
>> I hneaded in towards Cheltenham - a place I'd rather avoid - I got
>> lost the last time attempted to go shopping there.
>>
>> Found a local convenience store - no string.
>> Six likely shops later - still no string.
>
> Woolworths, WH Smith, Rymans, Robert Dyas ...

I've been on a string hunt in the past. I looked in every shop in town that 
I thought might have it, including Woolies and Smiths.I think it was several 
weeks until I came across some. Now that I have adequate string supplies I 
see it in all of the shops that I looked in then.

-- 

CaroleT

carolet wrote:
> Paul Herber wrote:
>> On Sat, 28 Jun 2008 10:49:28 -0700 (PDT), Bob E
>>  wrote:
>>
>>> I thought everywhere sold balls of string.
>>> Visited wofe at her guide camp today, the other side of Cheltenham.
>>> We need more loo rolls and some balls of string.
>>> I hneaded in towards Cheltenham - a place I'd rather avoid - I got
>>> lost the last time attempted to go shopping there.
>>>
>>> Found a local convenience store - no string.
>>> Six likely shops later - still no string.
>> Woolworths, WH Smith, Rymans, Robert Dyas ...
> 
> I've been on a string hunt in the past. I looked in every shop in town that 
> I thought might have it, including Woolies and Smiths.I think it was several 
> weeks until I came across some. Now that I have adequate string supplies I 
> see it in all of the shops that I looked in then.
> 

Garden Centres

"DavidK"  wrote in message 
news:1214728282.17167.0@proxy02.news.clara.net...
> carolet wrote:
>> Paul Herber wrote:
>>> On Sat, 28 Jun 2008 10:49:28 -0700 (PDT), Bob E
>>>  wrote:
>>>
>>>> I thought everywhere sold balls of string.
>>>> Visited wofe at her guide camp today, the other side of Cheltenham.
>>>> We need more loo rolls and some balls of string.
>>>> I hneaded in towards Cheltenham - a place I'd rather avoid - I got
>>>> lost the last time attempted to go shopping there.
>>>>
>>>> Found a local convenience store - no string.
>>>> Six likely shops later - still no string.
>>> Woolworths, WH Smith, Rymans, Robert Dyas ...
>>
>> I've been on a string hunt in the past. I looked in every shop in town 
>> that I thought might have it, including Woolies and Smiths.I think it was 
>> several weeks until I came across some. Now that I have adequate string 
>> supplies I see it in all of the shops that I looked in then.
>>
>
> Garden Centres

I pick up big balls of string at our local street market for 50p each. White 
string, hairy string, green string, soft blue string (this is nice - I might 
try crocheting with it), thick string, thin string - you name it, the 
market's got it. Buy things when you see them, not when you need them, and 
you can't go wrong. Well, actually, you can, as by the time you actually 
need it you forget where you stashed it, and your kitchen drawers won't 
shut.

ally

On 29 Jun, 11:00, "a l l y"  wrote:
 Buy things when you see them, not when you need them, and
> you can't go wrong. Well, actually, you can, as by the time you actually
> need it you forget where you stashed it, and your kitchen drawers won't
> shut.

Ah! That's our philosophy.
In this situation I was visiting wofe's Guide camp when someone else
decided to atdd an unplanned activity that required some thing easily
obtained - string.

I've just checked at our village shop this morning. A ball of string
is 79p. I'm sure I paid over 2ukp for the ones I bought in a
Cheltenham homebase yesterday. After 2 hours of searching I just paid
up.

Many years ago (BC so about 30 years ago) we found an old recipe for
Sefton Eggs requiring pine kernels. We enquired for well over a year
in everyshop in the country we came across just in case they stocked
them. Not long after someone replied that there were a lot of
enquiries for pine kernels we saw them being stocked.
The Sefton Eggs tasted awful.

Bob E wrote:
> On 29 Jun, 11:00, "a l l y"  wrote:
>  Buy things when you see them, not when you need them, and
>> you can't go wrong. Well, actually, you can, as by the time you actually
>> need it you forget where you stashed it, and your kitchen drawers won't
>> shut.
> 
> Ah! That's our philosophy.

It used to be mine, for many years. But having been on the move rather 
more than usual lately, and spent time living in small spaces [2][3], 
living out of bags, etc, I've decided to reverse this policy. I am 
currently trying to be as uncluttered with "might be usefuls" as 
possible. I still own heaps of stuff I don't really need, but I'm never 
going to be full-on minimilist[1]. So far just getting stuff as I need 
it is working pretty well... but I'm in the lucky position of being in a 
well-stocked village with many supplies on the doorstep.


Kimbo xx

[1] What always worries me about minimilist interiors when featured on 
TV and in the colour supps - where are all the family photographs and 
souvenirs? All the hideous vases granny bought? Do these people *have* 
any friends?

[2] Having previously lived in a boat floating about on the ocean, you'd 
think I'd be well practised... but I seem to have to regain the knack.

[3] Footnotes numbered in stream of consciousness order!

-- 
www.bykimbo.com

On Sun, 29 Jun 2008 03:38:54 -0700 (PDT), Bob E
 wrote:

>On 29 Jun, 11:00, "a l l y"  wrote:
> Buy things when you see them, not when you need them, and
>> you can't go wrong. Well, actually, you can, as by the time you actually
>> need it you forget where you stashed it, and your kitchen drawers won't
>> shut.
>
>Ah! That's our philosophy.
>In this situation I was visiting wofe's Guide camp when someone else
>decided to atdd an unplanned activity that required some thing easily
>obtained - string.
>
>I've just checked at our village shop this morning. A ball of string
>is 79p. I'm sure I paid over 2ukp for the ones I bought in a
>Cheltenham homebase yesterday. After 2 hours of searching I just paid
>up.
>
This is what happened to me when I urgently needed a marker pen to
write on some CDs. I couldn't find one anywhere and ended up paying
something like you did for a branded one in a stationary shop.
Needless to say, after that, I saw cheap ones everywhere.

...and the CDs I needed to mark? I still haven't got a round tuit.

Nick O

Nick Odell wrote:

> This is what happened to me when I urgently needed a marker pen to
> write on some CDs.[...]
> ...and the CDs I needed to mark? I still haven't got a round tuit.

I say MOPMOB, are you sure you entirely understand the concept "urgent"? 
;o))



Kimbo xx
-- 
www.bykimbo.com

On Sun, 29 Jun 2008 03:38:54 -0700 (PDT), Bob E
 wrote:

>I've just checked at our village shop this morning. A ball of string
>is 79p. I'm sure I paid over 2ukp for the ones I bought in a
>Cheltenham homebase yesterday. After 2 hours of searching I just paid
>up.

And try it all in a country where you don't quite know what shops have
what and where they are.  And don't speak the language very well.  I
keep finding things we bought cheaper in another shop.

In message , Nick Odell 
<gurzhfvp.jbexfubc@ntlworld.com.invalid> writes
>>I've just checked at our village shop this morning. A ball of string
>>is 79p. I'm sure I paid over 2ukp for the ones I bought in a
>>Cheltenham homebase yesterday. After 2 hours of searching I just paid
>>up.
>>
>This is what happened to me when I urgently needed a marker pen to 
>write on some CDs. I couldn't find one anywhere and ended up paying 
>something like you did for a branded one in a stationary shop. Needless 
>to say, after that, I saw cheap ones everywhere.

Same thing happened to my daughter when she needed an A3 map of GB.  I 
found her one on the Internet for which she forked out several quid.  A 
couple of weeks later we found some in the local Poundland.

To add insult to injury, this was still before the day on which she 
needed to use the map, so had we known...  Oh the beauty of hindsight!
-- 
Jenny
"I always like to have the morning well-aired before I get up."
(Beau Brummel, 1778-1840)

On Sun, 29 Jun 2008 11:48:48 +0100, Kim Andrews 
wrote:

>Bob E wrote:
>> On 29 Jun, 11:00, "a l l y"  wrote:
>>  Buy things when you see them, not when you need them, and
>>> you can't go wrong. Well, actually, you can, as by the time you actually
>>> need it you forget where you stashed it, and your kitchen drawers won't
>>> shut.
>> 
>> Ah! That's our philosophy.
>
>It used to be mine, for many years. But having been on the move rather 
>more than usual lately, and spent time living in small spaces [2][3], 
>living out of bags, etc, I've decided to reverse this policy. I am 
>currently trying to be as uncluttered with "might be usefuls" as 
>possible. I still own heaps of stuff I don't really need, but I'm never 
>going to be full-on minimilist[1]. So far just getting stuff as I need 
>it is working pretty well... but I'm in the lucky position of being in a 
>well-stocked village with many supplies on the doorstep.

I still haven't anything like finished unpacking from my move 18
months ago. And that was only from the third floor to the second floor
in the same house (but without 3 large built in cupboards).

>Kimbo xx
>
>[1] What always worries me about minimilist interiors when featured on 
>TV and in the colour supps - where are all the family photographs and 
>souvenirs? All the hideous vases granny bought? Do these people *have* 
>any friends?

They move them all out of sight before they start taking the snaps,
re-arrange all the furniture, and plonk their own tasteful vase of
lilies on the coffee table.

-- 
Jo

Jo Lonergan wrote...
>I still haven't anything like finished unpacking from my move 18
>months ago.

I still haven't anything like finished unpacking from my move 6 years 
ago!
-- 
Martin

Martin Clark wrote:
> Jo Lonergan wrote...
>> I still haven't anything like finished unpacking from my move 18
>> months ago.
> 
> I still haven't anything like finished unpacking from my move 6 years ago!

I emptied one box to see if it needed to go into store for the next 
move. I managed to throw *most* of it away.


-- 
Kimbo xx

www.booksbykimbo.com

In message , Kim Andrews 
 writes
>Bob E wrote:
>> On 29 Jun, 11:00, "a l l y"  wrote:
>>  Buy things when you see them, not when you need them, and
>>> you can't go wrong. Well, actually, you can, as by the time you actually
>>> need it you forget where you stashed it, and your kitchen drawers won't
>>> shut.
>>  Ah! That's our philosophy.
>
>It used to be mine, for many years. But having been on the move rather 
>more than usual lately, and spent time living in small spaces [2][3],

After having been forced (by job move) to move after 20 years last year, 
I did throw out a lot - but there are still some boxes I moved as boxes. 
I think mostrats have some element of squirreldom.
[]
>[1] What always worries me about minimilist interiors when featured on 
>TV and in the colour supps - where are all the family photographs and 
>souvenirs? All the hideous vases granny bought? Do these people *have* 
>any friends?
[]
I suspect it's mainly a change in society in general, but certainly 
minimalism as portrayed on TV etc. has had one definite consequence: a 
friend who dabbles in the antique trade - not the dodgier side, things 
like prints and teaspoons and other silver - has found life _very_ 
difficult; people just don't collect things any more, at least not that 
sort of thing. In fact I think he's given up the trade; he certainly 
often came away from antique fairs without having made the stall fee.
-- 
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G.5AL(+++)IS-P--Ch+(p)Ar+T[?]H+Sh0!:`)DNAf
** http://www.soft255.demon.co.uk/G6JPG-PC/JPGminPC.htm for thoughts on PCs. **

"... there were certain words you couldn't say in front of a girl. Now you can
say all of them - but you can't say girl!" Tom Lehrer on BBC Radio 4, September
1998.

On 29 Jun, 12:32, Jo Lonergan  wrote:

> I still haven't anything like finished unpacking from my move 18
> months ago.

We are in the process of painful de-cluttering as we will soon be
having to move out of our home of 30 odd years to a smaller place [1].
I s'pose its a good idea, but I'd rather not have to do it. Over the
years I've just built more shelves and cupboards when needed and now
have narrow shelves at picture rail height around downstairs rooms to
put on display all those little momentos of holidays gone past and
things made by offspring.
anyway on emptying the attic I came across unpacked boxes I packed in
1975 when we moved out of the hostel and got our own flat.

[1] five years before retirement employer decides we are not worth the
pay scale we've been on and frozen our pay - so effectively getting a
decrease every year.

In message 
, Bob 
E  writes
>On 29 Jun, 11:00, "a l l y"  wrote:
> Buy things when you see them, not when you need them, and
>> you can't go wrong. Well, actually, you can, as by the time you actually
>> need it you forget where you stashed it, and your kitchen drawers won't
>> shut.
>
>Ah! That's our philosophy.
>In this situation I was visiting wofe's Guide camp when someone else
>decided to atdd an unplanned activity that required some thing easily
>obtained - string.
>
>I've just checked at our village shop this morning. A ball of string
>is 79p. I'm sure I paid over 2ukp for the ones I bought in a
>Cheltenham homebase yesterday. After 2 hours of searching I just paid
>up.
>
>Many years ago (BC so about 30 years ago) we found an old recipe for
>Sefton Eggs requiring pine kernels. We enquired for well over a year
>in everyshop in the country we came across just in case they stocked
>them. Not long after someone replied that there were a lot of
>enquiries for pine kernels we saw them being stocked.
>The Sefton Eggs tasted awful.

I used some pine kernels in our meal only this lunchtime!
-- 
Mike McMillan,
The email address is spam trapped but any genuine communications may be sent to
mike dot mcmillan at ntlworld dot com

"Let's all calm down shall we? Let's forget there is a llama in here at all."
(Lynda Snell, 010603)

Tel: (+44) 0118 9265450. website: <http://homepage.ntlworld.com/mike.mcmillan/>

In article <c210f462-8c15-4f8d-be91-022ac8f36ab8@j22g2000hsf.googlegr[...]>,
Bob E  wrote:
> An hour later (and a billion shops later) I came across a Homebase and
> acheived my goal.

Interesting: I'ld thought Homebase to myself several lines earlier - so now
I'm wondering if I /really/ thought it, or whether my subconscious was
reading faster than my conscious, IYSWIM.

Rosemary  

-- 
Rosemary Miskin     ZFC Pm   miskin@orpheusmail.co.uk
Loughborough, UK             http://miskin.orpheusweb.co.uk

In message <5MrRVDI0C3ZIFwk$@virgin.net>, Jenny M Benson 
 writes
>In message , Nick Odell 
><gurzhfvp.jbexfubc@ntlworld.com.invalid> writes
>>>I've just checked at our village shop this morning. A ball of string
>>>is 79p. I'm sure I paid over 2ukp for the ones I bought in a
>>>Cheltenham homebase yesterday. After 2 hours of searching I just paid
>>>up.
>>>
>>This is what happened to me when I urgently needed a marker pen to 
>>write on some CDs. I couldn't find one anywhere and ended up paying 
>>something like you did for a branded one in a stationary shop. 
>>Needless to say, after that, I saw cheap ones everywhere.
>
>Same thing happened to my daughter when she needed an A3 map of GB.  I 
>found her one on the Internet for which she forked out several quid.  A 
>couple of weeks later we found some in the local Poundland.
>
>To add insult to injury, this was still before the day on which she 
>needed to use the map, so had we known...  Oh the beauty of hindsight!

We have a tale we haven't told umra yet.  Hazel moved out of her flat 
back in April at the end of a one year contract: the landlord/lady and 
the agents weren't abiding by maintenance contracts so she said she 
wasn't going to sign up a second year for that sort of treatment (and as 
since heard on Moneybox Live: she's not alone is not getting her deposit 
back: she's fighting back).

She moved - with boyf - into his parents' bungaloo while she considered 
what her job will be after July when the college/school for autistic 
children she's working at closes down.  THREE weeks after they carefully 
packed everything up and placed all but essentials into parents' loft, 
the bungaloo flooded to a depth of four inches during a very cold night.

So everything that could be packed was taken with them to Chris' 
grandad's house where they're all staying until the bungalow is 
habitable.

I suggested that we should fill the 'Race for Life' donation bags we've 
been sent and I was given a *very* withering look and told I can't even 
get at 'short term' storage unless its an emergency and long term stuff 
is in the loft.

2008 is proving a very 'annus 'orribilis'  chez McToodles.

Sincerely Chris
-- 
Chris McMillan
http://www.chinavision.org.uk/
http://www.oneplusone.org.cn

On Sat, 28 Jun 2008 23:09:44 +0100, Rosemary Miskin
 wrote:

>In article <c210f462-8c15-4f8d-be91-022ac8f36ab8@j22g2000hsf.googlegr[...]>,
>Bob E  wrote:
>> An hour later (and a billion shops later) I came across a Homebase and
>> acheived my goal.
>
>Interesting: I'ld thought Homebase to myself several lines earlier

OK, so I am hanging a long-pondered query on what looks to have been a
typo, but anyway...

Nowhere else but on umra have I ever come across the contraction
"I'ld" (or "we'ld", or "she'ld" - you get the idea).  In all my years
of reading I have always seen "I would" contracted to "I'd",
distinguishable from a contraction of "I had" only by context - but
unambiguously so, in that I cannot think of a form of words in which
"I would" could substitute for "I had" and still make sense.

So, have I somehow been missing this linguistic feature all my life,
or are the two or three umrats who use it less idiolectual than I'd
thunk?
-- 
Stephen

Into my heart an air that kills From yon far country blows:
What are those blue remembered hills, What spires, what farms are those?
That is the land of lost content, I see it shining plain,
The happy highways where I went And cannot come again.

In article , "carolet"
 wrote:
>  Now that I have adequate string supplies I 
> see it in all of the shops that I looked in then.

you obviously created a demand, which the shops are now meeting!

Rosemary


-- 
Rosemary Miskin     ZFC Pm   miskin@orpheusmail.co.uk
Loughborough, UK             http://miskin.orpheusweb.co.uk

"Bob E"  wrote

> have narrow shelves at picture rail height around downstairs rooms to
> put on display all those little momentos of holidays gone past

Momento merry?
-- 
Sid
Make sure Matron is away when you reply

On Jun 29, 12:48 pm, Kim Andrews  wrote:
> It used to be mine, for many years. But having been on the move rather
> more than usual lately, and spent time living in small spaces [2][3],
> living out of bags, etc,

Hey, Kimbo, when did you become umra's first bag lady! "On the move
rather more than usual", ah yes, the police have doubtless been moving
you along. "Living in small spaces" eh? Cardboard boxes? "Living out
of bags". Say no more.

How've you been posting though? From an Asus Eee PC via a McDonalds
hotspot? You hi-tech hobbo you!

On Jun 29, 4:04 pm, "J. P. Gilliver (John)"
 wrote:
> I think mostrats have some element of squirreldom.

Squirrels are just bushy-tailed rats with good PR.

On Sun, 29 Jun 2008 11:00:03 +0100, "a l l y"
 wrote:

>Buy things when you see them, not when you need them, and 
>you can't go wrong. 

Where does this stop, then? I see thousands of things in the shops
every day. I wouldn't be popular at home. Even on the bus they'd
probably grumble.

What things would you put on the essential list? (I always find I
haven't got a pencil sharpener[1] when I need one, should I buy one
next time I see one?)

[1]I'd like one like my Deputy Head has, cat-shaped with its tail in
the air, you push the pencil in the - erm, in the end - and it lets
out a meow of indignation.

lff

In message , a l l y 
 writes
>Buy things when you see them, not when you need them, and you can't go 
>wrong.

My sister is a great believer in this - particularly with regard to 
clothes.  She is constantly trying to get my mother to follow her 
example, but with a total lack of success.  Mother just says "but I 
don't *need* a ... at the moment" and my sister says "But you'll lever 
find one again when you do need it."  Time and again sis is proved right 
but Mother gets more and more set in her ways with advancing years!

-- 
Jenny
"I always like to have the morning well-aired before I get up."
(Beau Brummel, 1778-1840)

Jenny M Benson wrote:
> In message , a l l y 
>  writes
>> Buy things when you see them, not when you need them, and you can't go 
>> wrong.
> 
> My sister is a great believer in this - particularly with regard to 
> clothes.  She is constantly trying to get my mother to follow her 
> example, but with a total lack of success.  Mother just says "but I 
> don't *need* a ... at the moment" and my sister says "But you'll lever 
> find one again when you do need it."  Time and again sis is proved right 
> but Mother gets more and more set in her ways with advancing years!
> 

I certainly apply the rule to purple clothes in my size.  They are rare 
enough :)

-- 
Jane
The potter in the purple socks

http://www.clothandclay.co.uk/umra/cookbook/contents.htm for recipes 
supplied by umrats

Jenny M Benson wrote:
> In message , a l l y 
>  writes
>> Buy things when you see them, not when you need them, and you can't go 
>> wrong.
> 
> My sister is a great believer in this - particularly with regard to 
> clothes.  She is constantly trying to get my mother to follow her 
> example, but with a total lack of success.  Mother just says "but I 
> don't *need* a ... at the moment" and my sister says "But you'll lever 
> find one again when you do need it."  Time and again sis is proved right 
> but Mother gets more and more set in her ways with advancing years!
> 

I think I have some doubts about this. When one uses something that was 
bought "just in case", one goes "aha... see!" But what about all the 
things that were bought and never used... they just sit in a cupboard 
somewhere not triggering the equivalent "oops" moment, don't they?


-- 
Kimbo xx

www.booksbykimbo.com

Jane Vernon wrote:
> Jenny M Benson wrote:
>> In message , a l l y 
>>  writes
>>> Buy things when you see them, not when you need them, and you can't 
>>> go wrong.
>>
>> My sister is a great believer in this - particularly with regard to 
>> clothes.  She is constantly trying to get my mother to follow her 
>> example, but with a total lack of success.  Mother just says "but I 
>> don't *need* a ... at the moment" and my sister says "But you'll lever 
>> find one again when you do need it."  Time and again sis is proved 
>> right but Mother gets more and more set in her ways with advancing years!
>>
> 
> I certainly apply the rule to purple clothes in my size.  They are rare 
> enough :)
> 
That's different. You *always* need purple clothes. :o)))


-- 
Kimbo xx

www.booksbykimbo.com

On Mon, 30 Jun 2008 11:08:09 +0100, Jane Vernon
 wrote:

>I certainly apply the rule to purple clothes in my size.  They are rare 
>enough :)

I've bought quite a lot recently. It wasn't a conscious decision,
apart from the hideous colours that are otherwise on offer this year.
And possibly the compliments I got on the first thing I'd bought in
that colour for about 20 years. But in my case more towards the violet
end of the spectrum.

-- 
Jo

On Mon, 30 Jun 2008 09:06:25 GMT, Linda Fox 
wrote:

>What things would you put on the essential list? (I always find I
>haven't got a pencil sharpener[1] when I need one, should I buy one
>next time I see one?)
>
>[1]I'd like one like my Deputy Head has, cat-shaped with its tail in
>the air, you push the pencil in the - erm, in the end - and it lets
>out a meow of indignation.
>
Is it this one (unfortunately out of stock ATM)?

-- 
Jo

On Mon, 30 Jun 2008 13:02:14 +0200, Jo Lonergan
 wrote:

>On Mon, 30 Jun 2008 09:06:25 GMT, Linda Fox 
>wrote:
>
>>What things would you put on the essential list? (I always find I
>>haven't got a pencil sharpener[1] when I need one, should I buy one
>>next time I see one?)
>>
>>[1]I'd like one like my Deputy Head has, cat-shaped with its tail in
>>the air, you push the pencil in the - erm, in the end - and it lets
>>out a meow of indignation.
>>
>Is it this one (unfortunately out of stock ATM)?

Sorry!

http://www.iwantoneofthose.com/cats-arse-pencil-sharpener/index.html

-- 
Jo

* Jenny M Benson wrote, On 30/06/2008 10:55:
> In message , a l l y 
>  writes
>> Buy things when you see them, not when you need them, and you can't go 
>> wrong.
> 
> My sister is a great believer in this - particularly with regard to 
> clothes.  She is constantly trying to get my mother to follow her 
> example, but with a total lack of success.  Mother just says "but I 
> don't *need* a ... at the moment" and my sister says "But you'll lever 
> find one again when you do need it."  Time and again sis is proved right 
> but Mother gets more and more set in her ways with advancing years!
> 

That's a good approach, as long as your size is stable.  In the past, 
I've bought a number of things in end of season sales, only to find 
that, by the time I want to wear them, they have unaccountably shrunk 
in the wardrobe :(

-- 
Cheers, Serena

Cats were put into the world to disprove the dogma that all things 
were created to serve man. (Paul Gray)

On Jun 30, 2:10 pm, Serena Blanchflower 
wrote:
> * Jenny M Benson wrote, On 30/06/2008 10:55:
>
> > In message , a l l y
> >  writes
> >> Buy things when you see them, not when you need them, and you can't go
> >> wrong.
>
> > My sister is a great believer in this - particularly with regard to
> > clothes.  She is constantly trying to get my mother to follow her
> > example, but with a total lack of success.  Mother just says "but I
> > don't *need* a ... at the moment" and my sister says "But you'll lever
> > find one again when you do need it."  Time and again sis is proved right
> > but Mother gets more and more set in her ways with advancing years!
>
> That's a good approach, as long as your size is stable.  In the past,
> I've bought a number of things in end of season sales, only to find
> that, by the time I want to wear them, they have unaccountably shrunk
> in the wardrobe :(

Possibly your frocks are being borrowed by Phil the Fawn - through the
backdoor of your wardrobe. He's a bit of a devil for the boil wash,
that one.

On 28 Jun, 18:49, Bob E  wrote:

> Visited wofe at her guide camp today, the other side of Cheltenham.
> We need more loo rolls and some balls of string.
> I hneaded in towards Cheltenham - a place I'd rather avoid - I got
> lost the last time attempted to go shopping there.

> Oh yes. When I got back to the guide camp they found they had enough
> anyway.

Update:
Unpacked wofe's car after returning from the camp.
We now have one year's supply of toilet rolls and enough string to
hang myself.
None of what I bought was used, but looking on the bright side I got
some geographs of parts of Cheltenham I may never see again.

In article , Stephen
 wrote:
> >Interesting: I'ld thought Homebase to myself several lines earlier
> 
> OK, so I am hanging a long-pondered query on what looks to have been a
> typo, but anyway...


Even more interesting!  I don't think it was a typo - my typos are typically
reversed characters where my left hand reacts to my thoughts more quickly
than the right - so I think 'right, type p; left type r' and it comes out as
'rp'.

However, I'm not sure /what/ I thought I was abbreviating, as 'would'
doesn't make sense there - presumably I meant I'd for I had.  But I do
abbreviate 'I would' as I'ld - I think there's a trace of an 'l' as I
pronounce it, so that's how I write it. (And just to prove how little my
conscious is involved in typing, I definitely thought 'write' there, but the
first attempt came out as 'right'!)

It's a little tricky as I wasn't taught abbreviations - only never to use
them!  So I go by instinct, whcih can mislead.

Rosemary



-- 
Rosemary Miskin     ZFC Pm   miskin@orpheusmail.co.uk
Loughborough, UK             http://miskin.orpheusweb.co.uk

On Mon, 30 Jun 2008 11:12:54 +0100, Kim Andrews  wrote:

>Jenny M Benson wrote:
>> In message , a l l y 
>>  writes
>>> Buy things when you see them, not when you need them, and you can't go 
>>> wrong.
>> 
>> My sister is a great believer in this - particularly with regard to 
>> clothes.  She is constantly trying to get my mother to follow her 
>> example, but with a total lack of success.  Mother just says "but I 
>> don't *need* a ... at the moment" and my sister says "But you'll lever 
>> find one again when you do need it."  Time and again sis is proved right 
>> but Mother gets more and more set in her ways with advancing years!
>> 
>
>I think I have some doubts about this. When one uses something that was 
>bought "just in case", one goes "aha... see!" But what about all the 
>things that were bought and never used... they just sit in a cupboard 
>somewhere not triggering the equivalent "oops" moment, don't they?

True, but IME you get a "bingo" moment just often enough to make you go on
thinking that buying on spec is a good idea.

-- 
Jo

In message , Jo Lonergan 
 writes
>On Mon, 30 Jun 2008 11:08:09 +0100, Jane Vernon
> wrote:
>
>>I certainly apply the rule to purple clothes in my size.  They are rare
>>enough :)
>
I am reliably informed that when Wunderkind gets married the predominant 
colour is to be purple (paler rather than darker).  The question remains 
however *when*?

Sincerely Chris
-- 
Chris McMillan
http://www.chinavision.org.uk/
http://www.oneplusone.org.cn

On Mon, 30 Jun 2008 10:55:02 +0100, Jenny M Benson
 wrote:

>In message , a l l y 
> writes
>>Buy things when you see them, not when you need them, and you can't go 
>>wrong.
>
>My sister is a great believer in this - particularly with regard to 
>clothes.  She is constantly trying to get my mother to follow her 
>example, but with a total lack of success.  Mother just says "but I 
>don't *need* a ... at the moment" and my sister says "But you'll lever 
>find one again when you do need it."  Time and again sis is proved right 
>but Mother gets more and more set in her ways with advancing years!

Actually, yes, I did just do that today. Evans are selling t-shirts
and sleeveless vests in loads of colours for £5 each, so I just went
and got 5 while they're still there.

lff

On Mon, 30 Jun 2008 19:20:25 GMT, Linda Fox 
wrote:

>On Mon, 30 Jun 2008 10:55:02 +0100, Jenny M Benson
> wrote:
>
>>In message , a l l y 
>> writes
>>>Buy things when you see them, not when you need them, and you can't go 
>>>wrong.
>>
>>My sister is a great believer in this - particularly with regard to 
>>clothes.  She is constantly trying to get my mother to follow her 
>>example, but with a total lack of success.  Mother just says "but I 
>>don't *need* a ... at the moment" and my sister says "But you'll lever 
>>find one again when you do need it."  Time and again sis is proved right 
>>but Mother gets more and more set in her ways with advancing years!
>
>Actually, yes, I did just do that today. Evans are selling t-shirts
>and sleeveless vests in loads of colours for £5 each, so I just went
>and got 5 while they're still there.
>
>lff
That is not so cheap. Lots of places have them for that and some for
less.  Asda, M and S, BHS.  All sizes too.  I went to see what I could
get in the sales and was not at all impressed.  I wondered whether
they have really started yet.  The more expensive shoe shops had sales
but their sale prices are still quite high.  Only I tend not to be
able to wear very cheap shoes.   I got some children's sandals,
Clarks. Those go up to 6 and a half so were ok.  !2.50 from 25 quid.

On Mon, 30 Jun 2008 22:55:43 +0100, badriya 
wrote:

>On Mon, 30 Jun 2008 19:20:25 GMT, Linda Fox 
>wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 30 Jun 2008 10:55:02 +0100, Jenny M Benson
>> wrote:
>>
>>>In message , a l l y 
>>> writes
>>>>Buy things when you see them, not when you need them, and you can't go 
>>>>wrong.
>>>
>>>My sister is a great believer in this - particularly with regard to 
>>>clothes.  She is constantly trying to get my mother to follow her 
>>>example, but with a total lack of success.  Mother just says "but I 
>>>don't *need* a ... at the moment" and my sister says "But you'll lever 
>>>find one again when you do need it."  Time and again sis is proved right 
>>>but Mother gets more and more set in her ways with advancing years!
>>
>>Actually, yes, I did just do that today. Evans are selling t-shirts
>>and sleeveless vests in loads of colours for £5 each, so I just went
>>and got 5 while they're still there.
>>
>>lff
>That is not so cheap. Lots of places have them for that and some for
>less.  Asda, M and S, BHS.  All sizes too. 

All the way up to 30?

lff

In message , badriya 
 writes
>That is not so cheap. Lots of places have them for that and some for 
>less.  Asda, M and S, BHS.  All sizes too.

When you say "All sizes" I suspect that actually means "All sizes up to 
20."

IME none of the three shops you mention makes a habit of stocking 
clothes to fit those of us of a very traditional build.
-- 
Jenny
"I always like to have the morning well-aired before I get up."
(Beau Brummel, 1778-1840)

"Jenny M Benson"  wrote in message 
news:JSo9ifE21KaIFwLZ@virgin.net...
> In message , a l l y 
>  writes
>>Buy things when you see them, not when you need them, and you can't go 
>>wrong.
>
> My sister is a great believer in this - particularly with regard to 
> clothes.  She is constantly trying to get my mother to follow her example, 
> but with a total lack of success.  Mother just says "but I don't *need* a 
> ... at the moment" and my sister says "But you'll lever find one again 
> when you do need it."  Time and again sis is proved right but Mother gets 
> more and more set in her ways with advancing years!
>
> -- 
> Jenny
> "I always like to have the morning well-aired before I get up."
> (Beau Brummel, 1778-1840)

Also birthday cards.  I'm forever seeing the perfect card when I only have 
my smalll handbag so won't fit and then when I go back...
Rachael

On Mon, 30 Jun 2008 22:55:54 GMT, Linda Fox 
wrote:

>On Mon, 30 Jun 2008 22:55:43 +0100, badriya 
>wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 30 Jun 2008 19:20:25 GMT, Linda Fox 
>>wrote:
>>
>>>On Mon, 30 Jun 2008 10:55:02 +0100, Jenny M Benson
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>In message , a l l y 
>>>> writes
>>>>>Buy things when you see them, not when you need them, and you can't go 
>>>>>wrong.
>>>>
>>>>My sister is a great believer in this - particularly with regard to 
>>>>clothes.  She is constantly trying to get my mother to follow her 
>>>>example, but with a total lack of success.  Mother just says "but I 
>>>>don't *need* a ... at the moment" and my sister says "But you'll lever 
>>>>find one again when you do need it."  Time and again sis is proved right 
>>>>but Mother gets more and more set in her ways with advancing years!
>>>
>>>Actually, yes, I did just do that today. Evans are selling t-shirts
>>>and sleeveless vests in loads of colours for £5 each, so I just went
>>>and got 5 while they're still there.
>>>
>>>lff
>>That is not so cheap. Lots of places have them for that and some for
>>less.  Asda, M and S, BHS.  All sizes too. 
>
>All the way up to 30?
>
>lff
Ah, I didn't check exact sizes.  Good point.

On Tue, 1 Jul 2008 01:00:55 +0100, Jenny M Benson
 wrote:

>In message , badriya 
> writes
>>That is not so cheap. Lots of places have them for that and some for 
>>less.  Asda, M and S, BHS.  All sizes too.
>
>When you say "All sizes" I suspect that actually means "All sizes up to 
>20."
>
>IME none of the three shops you mention makes a habit of stocking 
>clothes to fit those of us of a very traditional build.
Well, now I am no longer 28 I find mostly they seem to have the larger
sizes!   It is some kind of Sod's Law that there is always a surplus
of the sizes you are not.

On Tue, 1 Jul 2008 04:03:16 +0100, "Rachael Reynolds"
 wrote:

>
>"Jenny M Benson"  wrote in message 
>news:JSo9ifE21KaIFwLZ@virgin.net...
>> In message , a l l y 
>>  writes
>>>Buy things when you see them, not when you need them, and you can't go 
>>>wrong.
>>
>> My sister is a great believer in this - particularly with regard to 
>> clothes.  She is constantly trying to get my mother to follow her example, 
>> but with a total lack of success.  Mother just says "but I don't *need* a 
>> ... at the moment" and my sister says "But you'll lever find one again 
>> when you do need it."  Time and again sis is proved right but Mother gets 
>> more and more set in her ways with advancing years!
>>
>> -- 
>> Jenny
>> "I always like to have the morning well-aired before I get up."
>> (Beau Brummel, 1778-1840)
>
>Also birthday cards.  I'm forever seeing the perfect card when I only have 
>my smalll handbag so won't fit and then when I go back...
>Rachael 
>
I used to keep a set of all purpose nice cards.  I had a pack from the
RSPB for a while and then one from the British Library shop.  They
were not specifically birthday but I just wrote in them for whatever
occasion it was.

badriya wrote...
>On Tue, 1 Jul 2008 01:00:55 +0100, Jenny M Benson
> wrote:
>>In message , badriya
>> writes
>>>That is not so cheap. Lots of places have them for that and some for
>>>less.  Asda, M and S, BHS.  All sizes too.
>>
>>When you say "All sizes" I suspect that actually means "All sizes up to
>>20."
>>
>>IME none of the three shops you mention makes a habit of stocking
>>clothes to fit those of us of a very traditional build.
>Well, now I am no longer 28 I find mostly they seem to have the larger
>sizes!   It is some kind of Sod's Law that there is always a surplus
>of the sizes you are not.
>
Too true. By the time I get around to thinking about buying summer 
clothes, the shops only seem to have what I want in sizes S and XXXL!

Even the pack of socks I wanted in the colours I wanted at Tesco were 
only available (in large quantities) in the sizes other than the size I 
wanted!
-- 
Martin

* Rachael Reynolds wrote, On 01/07/2008 04:03:
> "Jenny M Benson"  wrote in message 
> news:JSo9ifE21KaIFwLZ@virgin.net...
>> In message , a l l y 
>>  writes
>>> Buy things when you see them, not when you need them, and you can't go 
>>> wrong.
>> My sister is a great believer in this - particularly with regard to 
>> clothes.  She is constantly trying to get my mother to follow her example, 
>> but with a total lack of success.  Mother just says "but I don't *need* a 
>> ... at the moment" and my sister says "But you'll lever find one again 
>> when you do need it."  Time and again sis is proved right but Mother gets 
>> more and more set in her ways with advancing years!
>>
>> -- 
>> Jenny
>> "I always like to have the morning well-aired before I get up."
>> (Beau Brummel, 1778-1840)
> 
> Also birthday cards.  I'm forever seeing the perfect card when I only have 
> my smalll handbag so won't fit and then when I go back...

I do keep a large stash of cards, mainly blank ones which are suitable 
for most occasions.  On the rare occasions I can get to a real card 
shop, I end up buying vast quantities of them.

-- 
Cheers, Serena

It was such a lovely day I thought it a pity to get up. (W. Somerset 
Maugham)

* Ralph B wrote, On 30/06/2008 14:09:
> On Jun 30, 2:10 pm, Serena Blanchflower 
> wrote:
>> * Jenny M Benson wrote, On 30/06/2008 10:55:
>>
>>> In message , a l l y
>>>  writes
>>>> Buy things when you see them, not when you need them, and you can't go
>>>> wrong.
>>> My sister is a great believer in this - particularly with regard to
>>> clothes.  She is constantly trying to get my mother to follow her
>>> example, but with a total lack of success.  Mother just says "but I
>>> don't *need* a ... at the moment" and my sister says "But you'll lever
>>> find one again when you do need it."  Time and again sis is proved right
>>> but Mother gets more and more set in her ways with advancing years!
>> That's a good approach, as long as your size is stable.  In the past,
>> I've bought a number of things in end of season sales, only to find
>> that, by the time I want to wear them, they have unaccountably shrunk
>> in the wardrobe :(
> 
> Possibly your frocks are being borrowed by Phil the Fawn - through the
> backdoor of your wardrobe. He's a bit of a devil for the boil wash,
> that one.

<g>  That's an excellent explanation of the phenomenon!

-- 
Cheers, Serena

There is nothing new under the sun but there are lots of old things we 
don't know. (Ambrose Bierce)

On Tue, 1 Jul 2008 04:03:16 +0100, "Rachael Reynolds"
 wrote:
>
>Also birthday cards.  I'm forever seeing the perfect card when I only have 
>my smalll handbag so won't fit and then when I go back...

I don't have the small handbag problem, but we do buy quite a lot of
cards because we really like them and want to send them so someone,
some day; it beats looking for the perfect one just a few days
beforehand.

(And although there is a place these cards are supposed to be kept, we
do keep finding them all over the house)

lff

In message , badriya 
 writes
>Well, now I am no longer 28 I find mostly they seem to have the larger 
>sizes!   It is some kind of Sod's Law that there is always a surplus of 
>the sizes you are not.

Nearly a year ago I saw a really nice pair of trousers in Bon Marché (in 
which emporium I buy 90% of my clothing) in Wrecsam and tried on the 
size 24.  I was delighted to find that they were too big for me ... 
until I discovered that there were plenty of every other size except 22. 
I went to Chester and tried the store there - none in size 22.  Then I 
happened to be in Stoke-on-Trent and saw the BM there - they didn't have 
any in size 22 either.

Now that that particular style is no longer on sale I could possibly fit 
a size 20!
-- 
Jenny
"I always like to have the morning well-aired before I get up."
(Beau Brummel, 1778-1840)

In message <57hak.59279$ft1.50023@newsfe14.ams2>, Rachael Reynolds 
 writes
>Also birthday cards.  I'm forever seeing the perfect card when I only 
>have my smalll handbag so won't fit and then when I go back...

I saw the *perfect* birthday card for my son-out-law the other day and 
it was the only one in the shop so I bought it.  I had an idea his 
birthday was sometime in July.  It turns out his birthday is not until 
the end of October:  I just hope I can remember where I put the card 
when the time comes!
-- 
Jenny
"I always like to have the morning well-aired before I get up."
(Beau Brummel, 1778-1840)

On Tue, 1 Jul 2008 10:47:58 +0100, Jenny M Benson
 wrote:

>In message <57hak.59279$ft1.50023@newsfe14.ams2>, Rachael Reynolds 
> writes
>>Also birthday cards.  I'm forever seeing the perfect card when I only 
>>have my smalll handbag so won't fit and then when I go back...
>
>I saw the *perfect* birthday card for my son-out-law the other day and 
>it was the only one in the shop so I bought it.  I had an idea his 
>birthday was sometime in July.  It turns out his birthday is not until 
>the end of October:  I just hope I can remember where I put the card 
>when the time comes!

I buy cards for individuals and their birthdays etc, when I see ones
that I like or think that they might like, regardless of how far in
advance of the date that might be. I keep all my cards in one place so
finding them is not a problem. What I sometimes find a problem is
remembering why on earth I thought at the time that it would have been
suitable!

Nick O

On Tue, 01 Jul 2008 10:17:00 +0100, Serena Blanchflower
 wrote:

>I do keep a large stash of cards, mainly blank ones which are suitable 
>for most occasions.  On the rare occasions I can get to a real card 
>shop, I end up buying vast quantities of them.

Me too, especially as they have much nicer cards in the UK. If only I could get
my act together and send them <sigh>

-- 
Jo

In article , Serena Blanchflower 
generously decided to share with us..

Snippetry..

> I do keep a large stash of cards, mainly blank ones which are suitable 
> for most occasions.  On the rare occasions I can get to a real card 
> shop, I end up buying vast quantities of them.

I print my own cards out most of the time.. this is a range I'm 
particularly fond of:

http://www.code-d.com/tesco-cards/index.php

-- 
Gid

Current Project: Bragdy'r Ddraenen Wen 
(if it ever stops raining for long enough)

* Gid wrote, On 01/07/2008 12:55:
> In article , Serena Blanchflower 
> generously decided to share with us..
> 
> Snippetry..
> 
>> I do keep a large stash of cards, mainly blank ones which are suitable 
>> for most occasions.  On the rare occasions I can get to a real card 
>> shop, I end up buying vast quantities of them.
> 
> I print my own cards out most of the time.. this is a range I'm 
> particularly fond of:
> 
> http://www.code-d.com/tesco-cards/index.php
> 

Excellent :)

-- 
Cheers, Serena

Don't wait for your ship to come in, swim out to it. (Anon)

Kim Andrews wrote:
> Bob E wrote:
>> On 29 Jun, 11:00, "a l l y"  wrote:
>>  Buy things when you see them, not when you need them, and
>>> you can't go wrong. Well, actually, you can, as by the time you actually
>>> need it you forget where you stashed it, and your kitchen drawers won't
>>> shut.
>>
>> Ah! That's our philosophy.
> 
> It used to be mine, for many years. But having been on the move rather 
> more than usual lately, and spent time living in small spaces [2][3], 
> living out of bags, etc, I've decided to reverse this policy. I am 
> currently trying to be as uncluttered with "might be usefuls" as 
> possible. I still own heaps of stuff I don't really need, but I'm never 
> going to be full-on minimilist[1]. So far just getting stuff as I need 
> it is working pretty well... but I'm in the lucky position of being in a 
> well-stocked village with many supplies on the doorstep.
> 
> 
> Kimbo xx
> 
> [1] What always worries me about minimilist interiors when featured on 
> TV and in the colour supps - where are all the family photographs and 
> souvenirs? All the hideous vases granny bought? Do these people *have* 
> any friends?
> 

I also wonder if what the people who use these rooms actually *do* 
there. They don't apparently read papers or magazines or letters, or sew 
on buttons, or write a diary, or do sudko, or leave coffee cups or shoes 
or jumpers around. They do seem to light a lot of candles, but that's 
about it.


-- 
Marjorie

To reply, replace dontusethisaddress with marje

Marjorie wrote...
>Kim Andrews wrote:
>> Bob E wrote:
>>minimilist interiors
>
>I also wonder if what the people who use these rooms actually *do* 
>there. They don't apparently read papers or magazines or letters, or 
>sew on buttons, or write a diary, or do sudko, or leave coffee cups or 
>shoes or jumpers around. They do seem to light a lot of candles, but 
>that's about it.
>
I fear that a lot of people these days don't do anything except sit on 
their uncomfortable minimalist futons and watch television.
-- 
Martin

On 1 Jul, 16:34, Marjorie 
wrote:

> I also wonder if what the people who use these rooms actually *do*
> there. They don't apparently read papers or magazines or letters, or sew
> on buttons, or write a diary, or do sudko, or leave coffee cups or shoes
> or jumpers around. They do seem to light a lot of candles, but that's
> about it.

We live in a cluttered mess (well we know where everything is) AND we
light candles.
I just love candle light.
Well any living flame.

Pyro -bob

On Tue, 1 Jul 2008 10:45:22 +0100, Jenny M Benson
 wrote:

>In message , badriya 
> writes
>>Well, now I am no longer 28 I find mostly they seem to have the larger 
>>sizes!   It is some kind of Sod's Law that there is always a surplus of 
>>the sizes you are not.
>
>Nearly a year ago I saw a really nice pair of trousers in Bon Marché (in 
>which emporium I buy 90% of my clothing) in Wrecsam and tried on the 
>size 24.  I was delighted to find that they were too big for me ... 
>until I discovered that there were plenty of every other size except 22. 
>I went to Chester and tried the store there - none in size 22.  Then I 
>happened to be in Stoke-on-Trent and saw the BM there - they didn't have 
>any in size 22 either.
>
>Now that that particular style is no longer on sale I could possibly fit 
>a size 20!
I saw size 22 teeshirts in M and S today but no bigger in the ones I
looked at.

On Sun, 29 Jun 2008 13:19:43 +0100, Kim Andrews 
scrawled in the dust...

>Martin Clark wrote:
>> Jo Lonergan wrote...
>>> I still haven't anything like finished unpacking from my move 18
>>> months ago.
>> 
>> I still haven't anything like finished unpacking from my move 6 years ago!
>
>I emptied one box to see if it needed to go into store for the next 
>move. I managed to throw *most* of it away.

One of the removal estimators I spoke to before my move 12 months ago said
he always advises people not to get rid of stuff before a move. I did get
shot of quite a bit but not knowing quite where I was going to end up,
largely followed his advise.

Now I'm repacking the half-emptied boxes in preparation for another move
and I'm in a _much_ better position to know what to get rid of. The local
charity shop should do well. I'm sure I'll still be taking far more than I
need but I'm determined not to hide it _all_ away in my new capacious
cupboards.
-- 
Penny
There are unexpected holes in my ignorance.
umra Nicknames & Abbreviations http://www.umra.freeuk.com/nicks.html

On Sun, 29 Jun 2008 12:00:34 +0100, Nick Odell
<gurzhfvp.jbexfubc@ntlworld.com.invalid> scrawled in the dust...

>his is what happened to me when I urgently needed a marker pen to
>write on some CDs. I couldn't find one anywhere and ended up paying
>something like you did for a branded one in a stationary shop.
>Needless to say, after that, I saw cheap ones everywhere.
>
>...and the CDs I needed to mark? I still haven't got a round tuit.

You did right, Nick. IME the cheap ones don't work. If they actually write
on the CD in the first place the words either fade or rub off.
-- 
Penny
There are unexpected holes in my ignorance.
umra Nicknames & Abbreviations http://www.umra.freeuk.com/nicks.html

Penny wrote...
>One of the removal estimators I spoke to before my move 12 months ago said
>he always advises people not to get rid of stuff before a move.

Ah, but maybe that was partly so that they would have more stuff to move 
and so could charge you more?
-- 
Martin

On Mon, 30 Jun 2008 13:02:47 +0200, Jo Lonergan 
scrawled in the dust...

>
>http://www.iwantoneofthose.com/cats-arse-pencil-sharpener/index.html

"No animals were harmed in the making of this product. Don't try sharpening
your pencil in a real cat if you value your life. Or even if you don't come
to think of it."

:)

I have plenty of pencil sharpeners but usually use a knife.

On a similar theme I do rather like these
http://childrens.toys.harbourdirect.com/CATS-ARSE-TOWEL-HOLDER.html
(also available in dog).
-- 
Penny
There are unexpected holes in my ignorance.
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On Mon, 30 Jun 2008 20:07:13 +0100, chris mcmillan 
scrawled in the dust...

>I am reliably informed that when Wunderkind gets married the predominant 
>colour is to be purple (paler rather than darker).

D#2 went with purple, for accessories and wooden tulips rather than her
clothing (new black jeans and a cream top) for her recent nuptials. This
did not extend to the fruit-cake layer of the cake for which she had
specified white icing. My oldest friend who decided she would pay for the
rather amazing edifice (banoffee pie and chocolate torte made up the other
layers), told the chef it should be denim blue...
http://www.bredgar55.freeserve.co.uk/pics/cake.jpg
-- 
Penny
There are unexpected holes in my ignorance.
umra Nicknames & Abbreviations http://www.umra.freeuk.com/nicks.html

In message , Jenny M Benson 
 writes
>In message <57hak.59279$ft1.50023@newsfe14.ams2>, Rachael Reynolds 
> writes
>>Also birthday cards.  I'm forever seeing the perfect card when I only 
>>have my smalll handbag so won't fit and then when I go back...
>
>I saw the *perfect* birthday card for my son-out-law the other day and 
>it was the only one in the shop so I bought it.  I had an idea his 
>birthday was sometime in July.  It turns out his birthday is not until 
>the end of October:  I just hope I can remember where I put the card 
>when the time comes!

Set your PC to remind you, a few days ahead, both of the birthday and 
where you put the card ...
-- 
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G.5AL(+++)IS-P--Ch+(p)Ar+T[?]H+Sh0!:`)DNAf
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My daughter, if you love this man it doesn't mean you love god less

On Wed, 02 Jul 2008 00:41:13 +0100, Penny 
wrote:

>On Mon, 30 Jun 2008 20:07:13 +0100, chris mcmillan 
>scrawled in the dust...
>
>>I am reliably informed that when Wunderkind gets married the predominant 
>>colour is to be purple (paler rather than darker).
>
>D#2 went with purple, for accessories and wooden tulips rather than her
>clothing (new black jeans and a cream top) for her recent nuptials. This
>did not extend to the fruit-cake layer of the cake for which she had
>specified white icing. My oldest friend who decided she would pay for the
>rather amazing edifice (banoffee pie and chocolate torte made up the other
>layers), told the chef it should be denim blue...
>http://www.bredgar55.freeserve.co.uk/pics/cake.jpg

Daughter got married in black jeans?  Cool!
I got married in a red tent coat actually.  The two witnesses we
grabbed outside the registry office were  very concerned to get me a
chair. They thought I was pregnant.

In message , Kim Andrews 
 writes
[]
>I think I have some doubts about this. When one uses something that was 
>bought "just in case", one goes "aha... see!" But what about all the 
>things that were bought and never used... they just sit in a cupboard 
>somewhere not triggering the equivalent "oops" moment, don't they?
>
>
My mother used to buy things she thought would make useful gifts, and 
put them in what she called her "hamster drawer". I think it worked 
quite well; certainly, after she died, I don't remember the drawer being 
that full of things we had to dispose of. (And I vaguely remember 
receiving, and being aware of others receiving, gifts that had spent 
time in the hamster drawer.)
-- 
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G.5AL(+++)IS-P--Ch+(p)Ar+T[?]H+Sh0!:`)DNAf
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Buying books would be a good thing if one could also buy the time to read them
in: but as a rule the purchase of books is mistaken for the appropriation of
their contents. -Arthur Schopenhauer, philosopher (1788-1860)

In message , Penny 
 writes
>On Sun, 29 Jun 2008 12:00:34 +0100, Nick Odell
><gurzhfvp.jbexfubc@ntlworld.com.invalid> scrawled in the dust...
>
>>his is what happened to me when I urgently needed a marker pen to
>>write on some CDs. I couldn't find one anywhere and ended up paying
>>something like you did for a branded one in a stationary shop.
>>Needless to say, after that, I saw cheap ones everywhere.
>>
>>...and the CDs I needed to mark? I still haven't got a round tuit.
>
>You did right, Nick. IME the cheap ones don't work. If they actually write
>on the CD in the first place the words either fade or rub off.

MMV. I'm still using the pack of six I bought in a poundshop - I think 
it was three black, a blue, a red, and a green. I gave one of the blacks 
to someone else, and the blue has run out (but this is after months, 
maybe two or three years), and the rest are all still writing well - and 
several discs I've written on seem not to have lost anything. Oh, and 
the solvent they're made with smells _lovely_ ... (I think it was the 
poundshop in Eldon Square next to the Greenmarket, in Newcastle.)
-- 
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G.5AL(+++)IS-P--Ch+(p)Ar+T[?]H+Sh0!:`)DNAf
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Buying books would be a good thing if one could also buy the time to read them
in: but as a rule the purchase of books is mistaken for the appropriation of
their contents. -Arthur Schopenhauer, philosopher (1788-1860)

In message <$3j2PEKn6AbIFwHF@soft255.demon.co.uk>, "J. P. Gilliver 
(John)"  writes
>In message , Penny 
> writes
>>On Sun, 29 Jun 2008 12:00:34 +0100, Nick Odell
>><gurzhfvp.jbexfubc@ntlworld.com.invalid> scrawled in the dust...
>>
>>>his is what happened to me when I urgently needed a marker pen to
>>>write on some CDs. I couldn't find one anywhere and ended up paying
>>>something like you did for a branded one in a stationary shop.
>>>Needless to say, after that, I saw cheap ones everywhere.
>>>
>>>...and the CDs I needed to mark? I still haven't got a round tuit.
>>
>>You did right, Nick. IME the cheap ones don't work. If they actually write
>>on the CD in the first place the words either fade or rub off.
>
>MMV. I'm still using the pack of six I bought in a poundshop - I think 
>it was three black, a blue, a red, and a green. I gave one of the 
>blacks to someone else, and the blue has run out (but this is after 
>months, maybe two or three years), and the rest are all still writing 
>well - and several discs I've written on seem not to have lost 
>anything. Oh, and the solvent they're made with smells _lovely_ ... (I 
>think it was the poundshop in Eldon Square next to the Greenmarket, in 
>Newcastle.)

I wonder if it might be the solvent that has a sort of marzipan ish niff 
to it?
-- 
Mike McMillan,
The email address is spam trapped but any genuine communications may be sent to
mike dot mcmillan at ntlworld dot com

"Let's all calm down shall we? Let's forget there is a llama in here at all."
(Lynda Snell, 010603)

Tel: (+44) 0118 9265450. website: <http://homepage.ntlworld.com/mike.mcmillan/>

In message <PeGgJxBzCRbIFAi7@mike.mcmillan>, Mike McMillan 
 writes
>In message <$3j2PEKn6AbIFwHF@soft255.demon.co.uk>, "J. P. Gilliver 
>(John)"  writes
>>In message , Penny 
>> writes
>>>On Sun, 29 Jun 2008 12:00:34 +0100, Nick Odell
>>><gurzhfvp.jbexfubc@ntlworld.com.invalid> scrawled in the dust...
>>>
>>>>his is what happened to me when I urgently needed a marker pen to
>>>>write on some CDs. I couldn't find one anywhere and ended up paying
>>>>something like you did for a branded one in a stationary shop.
>>>>Needless to say, after that, I saw cheap ones everywhere.
>>>>
>>>>...and the CDs I needed to mark? I still haven't got a round tuit.
>>>
>>>You did right, Nick. IME the cheap ones don't work. If they actually write
>>>on the CD in the first place the words either fade or rub off.
>>
>>MMV. I'm still using the pack of six I bought in a poundshop - I think 
>>it was three black, a blue, a red, and a green. I gave one of the 
>>blacks to someone else, and the blue has run out (but this is after 
>>months, maybe two or three years), and the rest are all still writing 
>>well - and several discs I've written on seem not to have lost 
>>anything. Oh, and the solvent they're made with smells _lovely_ ... (I 
>>think it was the poundshop in Eldon Square next to the Greenmarket, in 
>>
>
>I wonder if it might be the solvent that has a sort of marzipan ish 
>niff to it?

Pauses to sniff one of them. No, I wouldn't say so - though I can't 
visualise* quite what marchpane smells like - I think it's almondy (i. 
e. cyanide), which I'm pretty sure this isn't.

*I often wonder what the appropriate word is meaning "to imagine what 
something sounds like", analogous to "visualise" for sight; I've never 
had cause to wonder for smell before!
-- 
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G.5AL(+++)IS-P--Ch+(p)Ar+T[?]H+Sh0!:`)DNAf
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Who's General Failure & why's he reading my disk? (Stolen from another .sig)

J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:

> Pauses to sniff one of them. No, I wouldn't say so - though I can't
> visualise* quite what marchpane smells like - I think it's almondy (i.
> e. cyanide), which I'm pretty sure this isn't.

Might it be nitrobenzene?  I remember fabricating that in my A-Level Organic
Chemistry lab.  Probably wouldn't be allowed these days.  The product
certainly wouldn't be permitted to fester on the windowsill for weeks on
end.

Rosiy

In article <ExQY+EDqRUbIFwhC@soft255.demon.co.uk>, J. P. Gilliver 
(John) generously decided to share with us..

Snippetry..

> *I often wonder what the appropriate word is meaning "to imagine what 
> something sounds like", analogous to "visualise" for sight; I've never 
> had cause to wonder for smell before!

Auralise and olfactise perhaps?..

-- 
Gid

Current Project: Bragdy'r Ddraenen Wen 
(if it ever stops raining for long enough)

In message , Gid 
 writes
>In article <ExQY+EDqRUbIFwhC@soft255.demon.co.uk>, J. P. Gilliver
>(John) generously decided to share with us..
>
>Snippetry..
>
>> *I often wonder what the appropriate word is meaning "to imagine what
>> something sounds like", analogous to "visualise" for sight; I've never
>> had cause to wonder for smell before!
>
>Auralise and olfactise perhaps?..
>
Sound like good candidates, but I just fear that their unfamiliarity 
would break the flow of thought in the reader.
-- 
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G.5AL(+++)IS-P--Ch+(p)Ar+T[?]H+Sh0!:`)DNAf
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Who's General Failure & why's he reading my disk? (Stolen from another .sig)

"Jo Lonergan"  wrote in message 
news:f5se64h9s7q9jveh2of66q9tpkb3kv8olv@4ax.com...
> On Sun, 29 Jun 2008 11:48:48 +0100, Kim Andrews 
> wrote:
>
> I still haven't anything like finished unpacking from my move 18
> months ago. And that was only from the third floor to the second floor
> in the same house (but without 3 large built in cupboards).
>
>>Kimbo xx

Hmph - that's nothing. We moved here over 11 years ago, and I still have 3 
sealed boxes that have never been opened. Admittedly they are full of my 
collection of old 78 records, and I feel they're safer wrapped in many 
layers of newspaper until that impossible day arrives, when I have time 
actually to convert them into MP3s before carefully repacking them. . .

ally

"Marjorie"  wrote in message 
news:A4ednU8RZZUS0vfVnZ2dnUVZ8vmdnZ2d@posted.plusnet...
>>
>
> I also wonder if what the people who use these rooms actually *do* there. 
> They don't apparently read papers or magazines or letters, or sew on 
> buttons, or write a diary, or do sudko, or leave coffee cups or shoes or 
> jumpers around. They do seem to light a lot of candles, but that's about 
> it.
>
I don't think they actually spend much time at home. It's like a work of art 
to show off to your friends and those you want to impress. They go out when 
they want something to do.

Of course it's possible they just don't have any brains and therefore don't 
need anything to occupy them.

ally

a l l y wrote:
> "Jo Lonergan"  wrote in message 
> news:f5se64h9s7q9jveh2of66q9tpkb3kv8olv@4ax.com...
>> On Sun, 29 Jun 2008 11:48:48 +0100, Kim Andrews 
>> wrote:
>>
>> I still haven't anything like finished unpacking from my move 18
>> months ago. And that was only from the third floor to the second floor
>> in the same house (but without 3 large built in cupboards).
>>
>>> Kimbo xx

Look Jo, it's as we've always suspected, we are in fact the same person!

;o)

-- 
Kimbo xx

www.booksbykimbo.com

In article , bykimbo@hotmail.com 
says...
> a l l y wrote:
> > "Jo Lonergan"  wrote in message 
> > news:f5se64h9s7q9jveh2of66q9tpkb3kv8olv@4ax.com...
> >> On Sun, 29 Jun 2008 11:48:48 +0100, Kim Andrews 
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> I still haven't anything like finished unpacking from my move 18
> >> months ago. And that was only from the third floor to the second floor
> >> in the same house (but without 3 large built in cupboards).
> >>
> >>> Kimbo xx
> 
> Look Jo, it's as we've always suspected, we are in fact the same person!
> 
Note to Sebastian:  Amend posting stats accordingly.

-- 
Sam

In message , a l l y 
 writes
>I don't think they actually spend much time at home. It's like a work 
>of art to show off to your friends and those you want to impress. They 
>go out when they want something to do.

In my wildest dreams I am wealthy enough to make my kitchen almost 
redundant - it would be spotless and minimalist and I would have all my 
meals "out."

In my tamer dreams I am wealthy enough to buy all my food in M&S.
-- 
Jenny
"I always like to have the morning well-aired before I get up."
(Beau Brummel, 1778-1840)

In message <ExQY+EDqRUbIFwhC@soft255.demon.co.uk>, "J. P. Gilliver 
(John)"  writes