Birthday News for today, 28 June: Phoebe Aldridge.

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In message , Birthday 
Monitor  writes
>Birthday News for today, 28 June: Phoebe Aldridge.
>
How old is she now?

(Perhaps something to add to the database, so that it comes up something 
like "Phoebe Aldridge (19xx)"? Obviously for UMRAts rather than RL 
characters, some might not want it [they could have "(over 21)"], though 
I'm quite happy for my "(1960)" to be added, as it's in my .sig anyway.)
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On Sat, 28 Jun 2008 11:21:20 +0100, "J. P. Gilliver (John)"
 wrote:

>In message , Birthday 
>Monitor  writes
>>Birthday News for today, 28 June: Phoebe Aldridge.
>>
>How old is she now?
>
>(Perhaps something to add to the database, so that it comes up something 
>like "Phoebe Aldridge (19xx)"? Obviously for UMRAts rather than RL 
>characters, some might not want it [they could have "(over 21)"], though 
>I'm quite happy for my "(1960)" to be added, as it's in my .sig anyway.)

As it's coming up to the end of the month and I'm looking for excuses
to post messages to umra, may I just offer a word of thanks to the
umratic database and stats managers and spoiler and teaser publishers
and all and say that I am extremely happy with said services, as
delivered, and feel no need for any more twiddly bits.

Nick O
-- 
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J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
> In message ,
> Birthday Monitor  writes
>> Birthday News for today, 28 June: Phoebe Aldridge.
>>
> How old is she now?
>
> (Perhaps something to add to the database, so that it comes up
> something like "Phoebe Aldridge (19xx)"? Obviously for UMRAts rather
> than RL characters, some might not want it [they could have "(over
> 21)"], though I'm quite happy for my "(1960)" to be added, as it's in
> my .sig anyway.)

Phoebe Aldridge (1998)

-- 

CaroleT

In message , Nick Odell 
<gurzhfvp.jbexfubc@ntlworld.com.invalid> writes
[]
>As it's coming up to the end of the month and I'm looking for excuses
>to post messages to umra, may I just offer a word of thanks to the
>umratic database and stats managers and spoiler and teaser publishers

Seconded.

>and all and say that I am extremely happy with said services, as
>delivered, and feel no need for any more twiddly bits.
[]
My suggestion was not meant as any criticism! (I find this with a lot of 
organisations' websites: the only way to make a suggestion is to follow 
the "complaint" route. Most of my suggestions are meant with positive 
intent.)

Thanks CaroleT for Phoebe (1998): I originally responded because I 
thought we'd not heard from "feebs" for a while, and had forgotten who 
she was. I've remembered now.
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"... there were certain words you couldn't say in front of a girl. Now you can
say all of them - but you can't say girl!" Tom Lehrer on BBC Radio 4, September
1998.

J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
> In message , Nick Odell
> <gurzhfvp.jbexfubc@ntlworld.com.invalid> writes
> []
>> As it's coming up to the end of the month and I'm looking for excuses
>> to post messages to umra, may I just offer a word of thanks to the
>> umratic database and stats managers and spoiler and teaser publishers
>
> Seconded.
>
>> and all and say that I am extremely happy with said services, as
>> delivered, and feel no need for any more twiddly bits.
> []
> My suggestion was not meant as any criticism! (I find this with a lot
> of organisations' websites: the only way to make a suggestion is to
> follow the "complaint" route. Most of my suggestions are meant with
> positive intent.)
>
> Thanks CaroleT for Phoebe (1998): I originally responded because I
> thought we'd not heard from "feebs" for a while, and had forgotten who
> she was. I've remembered now.

So what you really wanted was:

Phoebe Aldridge (1998) Daughter of Kate Aldridge/Madikane and Roy Tucker, 
step-daughter of Hayley Tucker.

-- 

CaroleT

In article , "carolet"
 wrote:
> > Thanks CaroleT for Phoebe (1998): I originally responded because I
> > thought we'd not heard from "feebs" for a while, and had forgotten who
> > she was. I've remembered now.
> 
> So what you really wanted was:
> 
> Phoebe Aldridge (1998) Daughter of Kate Aldridge/Madikane and Roy Tucker, 
> step-daughter of Hayley Tucker.


But that relies on you remembering who Kate, Roy and Hayley are: this could
develop into a recursive feature, giving a complete family tree of every
character on their birthday.

This would be quite useful, but /might/ become a little tedious!  

Rosemary


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In article ,
Nick Odell  <gurzhfvp.jbexfubc@ntlworld.com.invalid> wrote:
>On Sat, 28 Jun 2008 11:21:20 +0100, "J. P. Gilliver (John)"
> wrote:
>
>>In message , Birthday 
>>Monitor  writes
>>>Birthday News for today, 28 June: Phoebe Aldridge.
>>>
>>How old is she now?
>>
>>(Perhaps something to add to the database, so that it comes up something 
>>like "Phoebe Aldridge (19xx)"?
>
>As it's coming up to the end of the month and I'm looking for excuses
>to post messages to umra, may I just offer a word of thanks to the
>umratic database and stats managers and spoiler and teaser publishers
>and all and say that I am extremely happy with said services, as
>delivered, and feel no need for any more twiddly bits.

I can reassure you that due to the number of opportunities currently open
to me to choose between in my Copious Spare Time, the Birthday service
is unlikely to suffer from creeping feature-itis in the near future.

Anyway, without all those threads which start "How old is she/he now"
there might be a risk that Umra would have even less relevant content !

Birthday Monitor
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Rosemary Miskin wrote:
> In article , "carolet"
>  wrote:
>>> Thanks CaroleT for Phoebe (1998): I originally responded because I
>>> thought we'd not heard from "feebs" for a while, and had forgotten
>>> who she was. I've remembered now.
>>
>> So what you really wanted was:
>>
>> Phoebe Aldridge (1998) Daughter of Kate Aldridge/Madikane and Roy
>> Tucker, step-daughter of Hayley Tucker.
>
>
> But that relies on you remembering who Kate, Roy and Hayley are: this
> could develop into a recursive feature, giving a complete family tree
> of every character on their birthday.
>
> This would be quite useful, but /might/ become a little tedious!
>
> Rosemary

Well, when I wrote the above I had intended to go on to say
grand daughter of ......
step sister of .......
but I got bored before I got that far, so can confirm that it would get 
tedious quite quickly for whoever wrote it, if not for the readers.


-- 

CaroleT

In message , Rosemary
Miskin  writes
>In article , "carolet"
> wrote:
>> > Thanks CaroleT for Phoebe (1998): I originally responded because I
>> > thought we'd not heard from "feebs" for a while, and had forgotten who
>> > she was. I've remembered now.
>>
>> So what you really wanted was:
>>
>> Phoebe Aldridge (1998) Daughter of Kate Aldridge/Madikane and Roy Tucker,
>> step-daughter of Hayley Tucker.
>
>
>But that relies on you remembering who Kate, Roy and Hayley are: this could
>develop into a recursive feature, giving a complete family tree of every
>character on their birthday.
>
>This would be quite useful, but /might/ become a little tedious!

Well, actually, that _would_ be useful - stopping at one generation (or
"husband/wife of" instead) might be enough. But the UBM says we needn't
worry that it will happen in the near future anyway!
>
>Rosemary
>
>
You used one of my favourite terms, which reminds me of my favourite
glossary entry of all time, in the manual for HP BASIC:

        Recursive: see recursive

which is a perfect definition, even if it isn't actually helpful to
those who don't know what it does mean! (Like the Microsoft or
Management man in a balloon.)
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In article ,
J. P. Gilliver (John)  wrote:
>In message , Rosemary
>Miskin  writes
>>But that relies on you remembering who Kate, Roy and Hayley are: this could
>>develop into a recursive feature, giving a complete family tree of every
>>character on their birthday.
>>
>You used one of my favourite terms, which reminds me of my favourite
>glossary entry of all time, in the manual for HP BASIC:
>
>        Recursive: see recursive

I have here the ICL "Glossary of Basic Computer Terms" (not BASIC, you
will of course realise :)) which was issued to me and probably thousands
of other new starters with ICL in 1978.  It too contains the definition
"Recursive: see recursive", though it then goes on to spoil the mood a
little by adding in brackets "(a procedure or routine which calls itself
during execution of itself)".

Sadly it doesn't have that other famous saw "Endless Loop: see Loop,
Endless".

These and many others were, I think, captured and published in The
Devil's DP Dictionary in the early 1980s.  Extracts were available
on-line for many years, though a quick hunt just now failed to turn up
anything other than signature quotes.

Nick
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On Thu, 3 Jul 2008 07:19:36 +0000 (UTC), Nick Leverton
 wrote:


>I have here the ICL "Glossary of Basic Computer Terms" (not BASIC, you
>will of course realise :)) which was issued to me and probably thousands
>of other new starters with ICL in 1978.  It too contains the definition
>"Recursive: see recursive", though it then goes on to spoil the mood a
>little by adding in brackets "(a procedure or routine which calls itself
>during execution of itself)".

My copy of "Glossary of Basic Computer Terms", given to me at ICL
Beaumont (WSR01) in July 1978 contains no such entry.....

Mike
-- 
BA9020C 26/11/2003 - The triumph of accounting over engineering.

On Thu, 03 Jul 2008 19:17:53 +0200, Mike Bayliss
 wrote:

>On Thu, 3 Jul 2008 07:19:36 +0000 (UTC), Nick Leverton
> wrote:
>
>
>>I have here the ICL "Glossary of Basic Computer Terms" (not BASIC, you
>>will of course realise :)) which was issued to me and probably thousands
>>of other new starters with ICL in 1978.  It too contains the definition
>>"Recursive: see recursive", though it then goes on to spoil the mood a
>>little by adding in brackets "(a procedure or routine which calls itself
>>during execution of itself)".
>
>My copy of "Glossary of Basic Computer Terms", given to me at ICL
>Beaumont (WSR01) in July 1978 contains no such entry.....

I worked at Beaumont from December 1978 to June 1983. Were you working
there, or just on a course? I still have my System 4 COBOL manual
somewhere....

-- 
al
LSM
Licensed to flame

On Thu, 03 Jul 2008 18:33:22 +0100, Al Menzies 
wrote:

>On Thu, 03 Jul 2008 19:17:53 +0200, Mike Bayliss
> wrote:
>

>>My copy of "Glossary of Basic Computer Terms", given to me at ICL
>>Beaumont (WSR01) in July 1978 contains no such entry.....
>
>I worked at Beaumont from December 1978 to June 1983. Were you working
>there, or just on a course? I still have my System 4 COBOL manual
>somewhere....

Several courses - my first job was in sales support. I think I got the
job because I knew VME/K.

Mike
-- 
BA9020C 26/11/2003 - The triumph of accounting over engineering.

Mike Bayliss wrote:
> On Thu, 03 Jul 2008 18:33:22 +0100, Al Menzies 
> wrote:
> 
>> On Thu, 03 Jul 2008 19:17:53 +0200, Mike Bayliss
>>  wrote:
>>
>>> My copy of "Glossary of Basic Computer Terms", given to me at ICL
>>> Beaumont (WSR01) in July 1978 contains no such entry.....
>> I worked at Beaumont from December 1978 to June 1983. Were you working
>> there, or just on a course? I still have my System 4 COBOL manual
>> somewhere....
> 
> Several courses - my first job was in sales support. I think I got the
> job because I knew VME/K.

You are saying these things as though they're in some way odd.

-- 
David

Al Menzies wrote:

>I worked at Beaumont from December 1978 to June 1983. Were you working
>there, or just on a course? I still have my System 4 COBOL manual
>somewhere....

I think that last line has some of the full stops that I always
used to miss off when I dabbled briefly with COBOL.

Chris
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'48/59/31 M B+ G+ A L(-) I S-- CH-(--) Ar++ T+ H0 ?Q Sh+
chris@cdixon.me.uk
Have dancing shoes, will ceilidh.

In article ,
Mike Bayliss   wrote:
>On Thu, 3 Jul 2008 07:19:36 +0000 (UTC), Nick Leverton
> wrote:
>
>
>>I have here the ICL "Glossary of Basic Computer Terms" (not BASIC, you
>>will of course realise :)) which was issued to me and probably thousands
>>of other new starters with ICL in 1978.  It too contains the definition
>>"Recursive: see recursive", though it then goes on to spoil the mood a
>>little by adding in brackets "(a procedure or routine which calls itself
>>during execution of itself)".
>
>My copy of "Glossary of Basic Computer Terms", given to me at ICL
>Beaumont (WSR01) in July 1978 contains no such entry.....

How curious.  Mine is "Training Publication G6, issue 2", perhaps better
known as Technical Publication TP5150, and is dated (C) ICL 1978.  As I
didn't join until October, perhaps mine is a reprint ?  The entry in
question is on page 116.

Nick
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In message , Mike Bayliss 
 writes
[]
>Several courses - my first job was in sales support. I think I got the
>job because I knew VME/K.

I knew him well ...
>
>Mike

(Actually, I _don't_ know anything of VME, other than as a physical 
racking system.)
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On Thu, 03 Jul 2008 20:30:55 +0200, Mike Bayliss
 wrote:

>On Thu, 03 Jul 2008 18:33:22 +0100, Al Menzies 
>wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 03 Jul 2008 19:17:53 +0200, Mike Bayliss
>> wrote:
>>
>
>>>My copy of "Glossary of Basic Computer Terms", given to me at ICL
>>>Beaumont (WSR01) in July 1978 contains no such entry.....
>>
>>I worked at Beaumont from December 1978 to June 1983. Were you working
>>there, or just on a course? I still have my System 4 COBOL manual
>>somewhere....
>
>Several courses - my first job was in sales support. I think I got the
>job because I knew VME/K.

We probably passed each other in a corridor, or maybe on the croquet
lawn.

-- 
al
LSM
Licensed to flame

J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
> In message , Mike Bayliss 
>  writes
> []
>> Several courses - my first job was in sales support. I think I got the
>> job because I knew VME/K.
> 
> I knew him well ...
> 
> (Actually, I _don't_ know anything of VME, other than as a physical 
> racking system.)

I loved VME/K, which was far more cuddly than B.

I was in the Dataskill office in Wilmslow on the day VME/K died.  I 
didn't know what to do with myself.

-- 
David

On Thu, 3 Jul 2008 21:14:31 +0000 (UTC), Nick Leverton
 wrote:

>In article ,
>Mike Bayliss   wrote:

>>My copy of "Glossary of Basic Computer Terms", given to me at ICL
>>Beaumont (WSR01) in July 1978 contains no such entry.....
>
>How curious.  Mine is "Training Publication G6, issue 2", perhaps better
>known as Technical Publication TP5150, and is dated (C) ICL 1978.  As I
>didn't join until October, perhaps mine is a reprint ?  The entry in
>question is on page 116.

Training Publication G6 Issue 1 - Copyright 1972

Mike
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On Thu, 03 Jul 2008 19:43:51 GMT, the Omrud
 wrote:

>Mike Bayliss wrote:

>> Several courses - my first job was in sales support. I think I got the
>> job because I knew VME/K.
>
>You are saying these things as though they're in some way odd.

You think VME/K was normal?

And to get a job on the basis of 1 years (part-time) contact with an
OS used in only two places, is not an everyday event.

Mike
-- 
BA9020C 26/11/2003 - The triumph of accounting over engineering.

Mike Bayliss wrote:
> On Thu, 03 Jul 2008 19:43:51 GMT, the Omrud
>  wrote:
> 
>> Mike Bayliss wrote:
> 
>>> Several courses - my first job was in sales support. I think I got the
>>> job because I knew VME/K.
>> You are saying these things as though they're in some way odd.
> 
> You think VME/K was normal?

I think knowing VME/K was normal.  Seemed normal to me, anyway.

> And to get a job on the basis of 1 years (part-time) contact with an
> OS used in only two places, is not an everyday event.

I used it in three places, although they were not all that far apart.  I 
don't think it ever made it up the big black road to West Cumberland (oops).

-- 
David

In article ,
Mike Bayliss   wrote:
>On Thu, 3 Jul 2008 21:14:31 +0000 (UTC), Nick Leverton
> wrote:
>
>>In article ,
>>Mike Bayliss   wrote:
>
>>>My copy of "Glossary of Basic Computer Terms", given to me at ICL
>>>Beaumont (WSR01) in July 1978 contains no such entry.....
>>
>>How curious.  Mine is "Training Publication G6, issue 2", perhaps better
>>known as Technical Publication TP5150, and is dated (C) ICL 1978.  As I
>>didn't join until October, perhaps mine is a reprint ?  The entry in
>>question is on page 116.
>
>Training Publication G6 Issue 1 - Copyright 1972

Ah, presumably it was re-issued in connection with the release of 2900
series, VME/B and K (which three account for quite a number of entries
in the second issue).

It certainly doesn't make any concessions to Basic Computer Terms from
other 1970s ICL products, such as the Small Systems ranges acquired from
Singer and Friden, which is where I was working :)

Nick
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