On Wed, 10 Sep 2008 07:48:51 -0400, Severian  wrote:

>juniper wrote:
>> On Wed, 10 Sep 2008 02:39:44 +0000 (UTC), Steven Sullivan
>>  wrote:
>> 
>>> In alt.home-theater.misc howldog  wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 03 Sep 2008 04:48:56 -0700, StickThatInYourPipeAndSmokeIt
>>>>  wrote:
>>>>> On Tue, 2 Sep 2008 17:40:21 +0000 (UTC), Steven Sullivan
>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Agreed.  The BeoLab 5 -- the big self-powered ones that look like Daleks, with  
>>>>>> on-board room-correction DSP 
>>>>>
>>>>>  Bwuaahahahahahha
>>>>>
>>>>> 1  That's it... let a bunch of idiots mutate (read enjunear)the sound you
>>>>> hear into something else!
>>>
>>>> who the fuck cares what it originally sounded like? If the speakers
>>>> change the sound, and it sounds better to you, then it IS better.
>>>> would be nice if you could turn the DSP off, just to hear it without.
>>> You can.
>>>
>>> And what maybe isn't clear, is that the purpose of such DSP is to
>>> help maintain the 'original sound' by counteracting distortion *added* by the
>>> *room*.
>> 
>> That's starting to sound more and more like the Bose 901 system with
>> its active equalizer...
>> 
>
>Little different approach, the Bose uses the equalizer to make the 
>system itself have something approaching a flat freq response, it is 
>designed to compensate for the fact that 9 small drivers don't have much 
>low or high frequency response. The DSP in the B&O measures the rooms 
>effect on freq response, particularly the bass where standing waves and 
>such are pronounced, and compensated for the room.
>
>Back when Bose introduced the 901 there was no way to do the latter, the 
>technology didn't really exist to do it.

  No more than the words of a goddamned B&O shill.

 A saw ZERO science in these claims.

  My fucking sub-woofer has its own gain adjustment, I do not need some
third party reflection analysis done by questionable engineering setups
on a questionable DSP process screwing with my pristine feed.

Archimedes' Lever wrote:
> On Wed, 10 Sep 2008 07:48:51 -0400, Severian  wrote:
> 
>> juniper wrote:
>>> On Wed, 10 Sep 2008 02:39:44 +0000 (UTC), Steven Sullivan
>>>  wrote:
>>>
>>>> In alt.home-theater.misc howldog  wrote:
>>>>> On Wed, 03 Sep 2008 04:48:56 -0700, StickThatInYourPipeAndSmokeIt
>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>> On Tue, 2 Sep 2008 17:40:21 +0000 (UTC), Steven Sullivan
>>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Agreed.  The BeoLab 5 -- the big self-powered ones that look like Daleks, with  
>>>>>>> on-board room-correction DSP 
>>>>>>  Bwuaahahahahahha
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1  That's it... let a bunch of idiots mutate (read enjunear)the sound you
>>>>>> hear into something else!
>>>>> who the fuck cares what it originally sounded like? If the speakers
>>>>> change the sound, and it sounds better to you, then it IS better.
>>>>> would be nice if you could turn the DSP off, just to hear it without.
>>>> You can.
>>>>
>>>> And what maybe isn't clear, is that the purpose of such DSP is to
>>>> help maintain the 'original sound' by counteracting distortion *added* by the
>>>> *room*.
>>> That's starting to sound more and more like the Bose 901 system with
>>> its active equalizer...
>>>
>> Little different approach, the Bose uses the equalizer to make the 
>> system itself have something approaching a flat freq response, it is 
>> designed to compensate for the fact that 9 small drivers don't have much 
>> low or high frequency response. The DSP in the B&O measures the rooms 
>> effect on freq response, particularly the bass where standing waves and 
>> such are pronounced, and compensated for the room.
>>
>> Back when Bose introduced the 901 there was no way to do the latter, the 
>> technology didn't really exist to do it.
> 
>   No more than the words of a goddamned B&O shill.
> 
>  A saw ZERO science in these claims.
> 
>   My fucking sub-woofer has its own gain adjustment, I do not need some
> third party reflection analysis done by questionable engineering setups
> on a questionable DSP process screwing with my pristine feed.

Another sock puppet! What's the matter, Mr. Sulu get bored with you? 
Pining for the shuttlepod? ROFL!

You're so stupid you don't know the difference between a simple volume 
knob and sophisticated DSP room correction, what a maroon!

In alt.home-theater.misc Archimedes' Lever  wrote:
> On Wed, 10 Sep 2008 07:48:51 -0400, Severian  wrote:

> >juniper wrote:
> >> On Wed, 10 Sep 2008 02:39:44 +0000 (UTC), Steven Sullivan
> >>  wrote:
> >> 
> >>> In alt.home-theater.misc howldog  wrote:
> >>>> On Wed, 03 Sep 2008 04:48:56 -0700, StickThatInYourPipeAndSmokeIt
> >>>>  wrote:
> >>>>> On Tue, 2 Sep 2008 17:40:21 +0000 (UTC), Steven Sullivan
> >>>>>  wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Agreed.  The BeoLab 5 -- the big self-powered ones that look like Daleks, with  
> >>>>>> on-board room-correction DSP 
> >>>>>
> >>>>>  Bwuaahahahahahha
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 1  That's it... let a bunch of idiots mutate (read enjunear)the sound you
> >>>>> hear into something else!
> >>>
> >>>> who the fuck cares what it originally sounded like? If the speakers
> >>>> change the sound, and it sounds better to you, then it IS better.
> >>>> would be nice if you could turn the DSP off, just to hear it without.
> >>> You can.
> >>>
> >>> And what maybe isn't clear, is that the purpose of such DSP is to
> >>> help maintain the 'original sound' by counteracting distortion *added* by the
> >>> *room*.
> >> 
> >> That's starting to sound more and more like the Bose 901 system with
> >> its active equalizer...
> >> 
> >
> >Little different approach, the Bose uses the equalizer to make the 
> >system itself have something approaching a flat freq response, it is 
> >designed to compensate for the fact that 9 small drivers don't have much 
> >low or high frequency response. The DSP in the B&O measures the rooms 
> >effect on freq response, particularly the bass where standing waves and 
> >such are pronounced, and compensated for the room.
> >
> >Back when Bose introduced the 901 there was no way to do the latter, the 
> >technology didn't really exist to do it.

>   No more than the words of a goddamned B&O shill.

>  A saw ZERO science in these claims.

>   My fucking sub-woofer has its own gain adjustment, I do not need some
> third party reflection analysis done by questionable engineering setups
> on a questionable DSP process screwing with my pristine feed.

Take an acoustical reading of the bass frequencies at your listening seat some day, you'll see 
just now 'pristine' your feed is, moron.

Just because *you're* ignorant of the science behind digital room correction, doesn't mean 
there isn't any.  Hint:  B&O is far from the only manufacturer using it.



-- 
-S 
A wise man, therefore, proportions his belief to the evidence. -- David Hume, "On Miracles" 
(1748)