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date: Fri, 23 May 2008 13:56:49 +0100,    group: uk.media.home-cinema        back       
Toshiba DVD to LCD TV via component. Help!   
I wonder if anyone can help me.

I just bought a 37" Toshiba LCD TV with 2x SCARTs, 3x HDMIs and 1x component 
input.

I don't have any HDMI devices at the moment, so in the meantime I want to 
connect my DVD player to the TV. If I connect it using a SCART socket, 
everything's fine. Likewise my digibox. But I want to connect the DVD using 
component (better picture?) Unfortunately, when I do this -- the TV doesn't 
seem to pick the signal up. I just get a blue screen.

My jacks are coloured Yellow, Red and White -- while the input sockets on 
the back of the TV are Red, Green, Blue. But I've connected them the exactly 
same way I used to on my CRT Toshiba (yellow/white/red, vertically), and 
that worked fine before.

Any ideas what might be the problem, or good things to check?

Dan
date: Fri, 23 May 2008 13:56:49 +0100   author:   Dan Owen

Re: Toshiba DVD to LCD TV via component. Help!   
"Dan Owen"  wrote in message 
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>I wonder if anyone can help me.
>
> I just bought a 37" Toshiba LCD TV with 2x SCARTs, 3x HDMIs and 1x 
> component input.
>
> I don't have any HDMI devices at the moment, so in the meantime I want to 
> connect my DVD player to the TV. If I connect it using a SCART socket, 
> everything's fine. Likewise my digibox. But I want to connect the DVD 
> using component (better picture?) Unfortunately, when I do this -- the TV 
> doesn't seem to pick the signal up. I just get a blue screen.
>
> My jacks are coloured Yellow, Red and White -- while the input sockets on 
> the back of the TV are Red, Green, Blue. But I've connected them the 
> exactly same way I used to on my CRT Toshiba (yellow/white/red, 
> vertically), and that worked fine before.

Firstly the component method probably won't make a noticeable difference. 
(As long as RGB is being fed via the SCART)

If the jacks on the player and Yellow, Red and White it sounds like 
composite (not component) video and left/right audio...  You will want to 
avoid composite video at all costs!

What's the DVD player?

Justin.
date: Fri, 23 May 2008 19:30:24 GMT   author:   Justin Cole

Re: Toshiba DVD to LCD TV via component. Help!   
> Firstly the component method probably won't make a noticeable difference. 
> (As long as RGB is being fed via the SCART)

No, SCART1 is RGB (but I use it for my digibox). SCART2 is just a standard 
one, which I'm having to plug my DVD player into..

> If the jacks on the player and Yellow, Red and White it sounds like 
> composite (not component) video and left/right audio...  You will want to 
> avoid composite video at all costs!

Ah, okay. So composite leads (Y/R/W) just wouldn't produce any picture when 
connected to component inputs? So I need component leads? That would explain 
it!

> What's the DVD player?

Toshiba SD210EB player. The TV's a Toshiba 37XV505DB.

Thanks for replying, btw! Really appreciate any help. It does seem like I'm 
just confused about composite and component leads... doesn't it?

Dan
date: Fri, 23 May 2008 23:16:54 +0100   author:   Dan Owen

Re: Toshiba DVD to LCD TV via component. Help!   
"Dan Owen"  wrote in message 
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>> Firstly the component method probably won't make a noticeable difference. 
>> (As long as RGB is being fed via the SCART)
>
> No, SCART1 is RGB (but I use it for my digibox). SCART2 is just a standard 
> one, which I'm having to plug my DVD player into..

Right, gotcha.

>> If the jacks on the player and Yellow, Red and White it sounds like 
>> composite (not component) video and left/right audio...  You will want to 
>> avoid composite video at all costs!
>
> Ah, okay. So composite leads (Y/R/W) just wouldn't produce any picture 
> when connected to component inputs? So I need component leads? That would 
> explain it!

Composite and component are quite different things!  Indeed they can both be 
transmitted using the same type of leads (Phono's)

>> What's the DVD player?
>
> Toshiba SD210EB player. The TV's a Toshiba 37XV505DB.
>
> Thanks for replying, btw! Really appreciate any help. It does seem like 
> I'm just confused about composite and component leads... doesn't it?

The SD210 doesn't output 'component' - therefore you won't be able to 
connect it to the component in on the TV.  The DVD has a S-Video output so 
this would be the next best option for quality. (Presuming the TV can accept 
S-Video)

Just to confuse matters, SCART can carry RGB, S-Video and composite signals. 
A RGB-SCART switch box could be another option?

Justin.
date: Sat, 24 May 2008 13:34:58 GMT   author:   Justin Cole

Re: Toshiba DVD to LCD TV via component. Help!   
> Composite and component are quite different things!  Indeed they can both 
> be transmitted using the same type of leads (Phono's)

Right, I see. I'll have to get some component phonos then.

> The SD210 doesn't output 'component' - therefore you won't be able to 
> connect it to the component in on the TV.  The DVD has a S-Video output so 
> this would be the next best option for quality. (Presuming the TV can 
> accept S-Video)

Well, my SD210EB doees! I'm looking at the owner's manual now. Under 
"connecting to a TV using the component video jacks". Y video out, PB Video 
out and PR video out. They're there on the back of my player, too.

> Just to confuse matters, SCART can carry RGB, S-Video and composite 
> signals. A RGB-SCART switch box could be another option?

Yes, a switch box might be in order.

Thanks for your help.

Dan
date: Sat, 24 May 2008 17:15:43 +0100   author:   Dan Owen

Re: Toshiba DVD to LCD TV via component. Help!   
"Dan Owen"  wrote in message 
news:RaXZj.12032$pT3.11499@newsfe18.ams2...
> Well, my SD210EB doees! I'm looking at the owner's manual now. Under 
> "connecting to a TV using the component video jacks". Y video out, PB 
> Video out and PR video out. They're there on the back of my player, too.

Well if it definitely does then 3 phono's to 3 phono's should work...

You may have to enable the output in the menus of the player.  You only need 
to connect the Y lead only to get a black and white picture so you can quite 
quickly attach 1 lead to check the connections.

Justin.
date: Sat, 24 May 2008 18:02:11 GMT   author:   Justin Cole

Re: Toshiba DVD to LCD TV via component. Help!   
> Well if it definitely does then 3 phono's to 3 phono's should work...
>
> You may have to enable the output in the menus of the player.  You only 
> need to connect the Y lead only to get a black and white picture so you 
> can quite quickly attach 1 lead to check the connections.

Ah, right I see. Is it female-phono to male-phono, usually?

Dan
date: Sat, 24 May 2008 19:23:39 +0100   author:   Dan Owen

Re: Toshiba DVD to LCD TV via component. Help!   
Dan Owen wrote:

>> Well if it definitely does then 3 phono's to 3 phono's should work...
>>
>> You may have to enable the output in the menus of the player.  You only 
>> need to connect the Y lead only to get a black and white picture so you 
>> can quite quickly attach 1 lead to check the connections.
>
>Ah, right I see. Is it female-phono to male-phono, usually?
>
>Dan
>
Component video is 3x male phono - male phono.

Something like this:
http://www.tvcables.co.uk/cgi-bin/tvcables/CP005.html

I have an SD210 connected via component, and as Justin says you will
have to change the output type in the setup menus on the player.

Andy
date: Wed, 28 May 2008 08:59:44 +0100   author:   Andy Sinclair

Re: Toshiba DVD to LCD TV via component. Help!   
On 2008-05-23, Dan Owen  wrote:
>> Firstly the component method probably won't make a noticeable difference. 
>> (As long as RGB is being fed via the SCART)
>
> No, SCART1 is RGB (but I use it for my digibox). SCART2 is just a standard 
> one, which I'm having to plug my DVD player into..
>
>> If the jacks on the player and Yellow, Red and White it sounds like 
>> composite (not component) video and left/right audio...  You will want to 
>> avoid composite video at all costs!

I'm not 100% familiar with Sky Digibox but if ut has two scarts
(one TV and one VCR)
you may be able to plug the DVD into the VCR socket of the digibox.
Then when you switch on the DVD the Digibox might pass it through. Quite
a few Scart devices can work this way.
If it works it means both digibox and DVD are connected to the RGB scart
socket.

[DVD]===>[(VCR Scart)Digibox(TV Scart)]====>[(SCART1)TV]


> Ah, okay. So composite leads (Y/R/W) just wouldn't produce any picture when 
> connected to component inputs? So I need component leads? That would explain 
> it!

As mention by others , if the sockets are Red,white,yellow this is two
audio + 1 composite(=rubbish) signal.

Component is video only - same shape sockets but usually coloured
Red,Green, Blue and need a good quality cable.

Lordy
date: Wed, 04 Jun 2008 08:14:23 GMT   author:   lordy valid

Re: Toshiba DVD to LCD TV via component. Help!   
> Component is video only - same shape sockets but usually coloured
> Red,Green, Blue and need a good quality cable.

Thanks for that. I have now bought a component lead and have been using 
that.

Dan
date: Thu, 5 Jun 2008 16:34:17 +0100   author:   Dan Owen

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