Anybody know if there's a cheap DVD recorder capable of recording at
least eight hours?  It's for a video capture application where quality
isn't an issue, so a cheap analogue-only dvd recorder from a supermarket
would be fine.

-- 
Dave Farrance

Dave Farrance wrote:
> Anybody know if there's a cheap DVD recorder capable of recording at
> least eight hours?  It's for a video capture application where quality
> isn't an issue, so a cheap analogue-only dvd recorder from a
> supermarket would be fine.

DVD and analogue dont compute.
 super long play ie Mpeg 1 Is available on all the ones I have seen

-- 
Trev
You can always tell a Yorkshire man,
But you can't tell him much.

"Dave Farrance"  wrote in message 
news:pnd614drvrar9u4b71ruamib0j30gk58mf@4ax.com...
> Anybody know if there's a cheap DVD recorder capable of recording at
> least eight hours?  It's for a video capture application where quality
> isn't an issue, so a cheap analogue-only dvd recorder from a supermarket
> would be fine.
> Dave Farrance
>
Almost all will record for 6 hours at reduced quality.

Wouldn't you be better off buying a Hard Drive recorder,
much better for continuous high quality recording,
and they aren't expensive anymore, take a look in Maplins

Steve Terry

"Trev" <trevbowdenAT.dsl.pipex.COM> wrote:

>Dave Farrance wrote:
>> Anybody know if there's a cheap DVD recorder capable of recording at
>> least eight hours?  It's for a video capture application where quality
>> isn't an issue, so a cheap analogue-only dvd recorder from a
>> supermarket would be fine.
>
>DVD and analogue dont compute.
> super long play ie Mpeg 1 Is available on all the ones I have seen

Analogue as in only an analogue tuner, I meant.  How long is super long
play?

-- 
Dave Farrance

"Dave Farrance"  wrote in message 
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> "Trev" <trevbowdenAT.dsl.pipex.COM> wrote:
>
>>Dave Farrance wrote:
>>> Anybody know if there's a cheap DVD recorder capable of recording at
>>> least eight hours?  It's for a video capture application where quality
>>> isn't an issue, so a cheap analogue-only dvd recorder from a
>>> supermarket would be fine.
>>
>>DVD and analogue dont compute.
>> super long play ie Mpeg 1 Is available on all the ones I have seen
>
> Analogue as in only an analogue tuner, I meant.  How long is super long
> play?
> Dave Farrance
>
You can only reburn a DVDrw at most a hundred times,
i've had some fail after only about a dozen times.

Steve Terry

"Steve Terry"  wrote:

>"Dave Farrance"  wrote in message 
>news:pnd614drvrar9u4b71ruamib0j30gk58mf@4ax.com...
>> Anybody know if there's a cheap DVD recorder capable of recording at
>> least eight hours?  It's for a video capture application where quality
>> isn't an issue
>>
>Almost all will record for 6 hours at reduced quality.
>
>Wouldn't you be better off buying a Hard Drive recorder,
>much better for continuous high quality recording,
>and they aren't expensive anymore, take a look in Maplins

I wanted video-capture -- meaning capture from a composite-video input,
which all DVD recorders have, but Freeview PVRs don't.  And I'd assumed
that DVD-recorders with hard drives are expensive?  I'll have to check.

Anyway, I've looked at Maplin, as you suggested, and I've stumbled across
a £70 media player/recorder and hard drive enclosure that might be
exactly what I want.  I think it must have a video input since it says
that it can record from a TV.

http://www.maplin.co.uk/Search.aspx?criteria=A09HG

-- 
Dave Farrance

"Dave Farrance"  wrote in message 
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> "Steve Terry"  wrote:
>
>>"Dave Farrance"  wrote in message
>>news:pnd614drvrar9u4b71ruamib0j30gk58mf@4ax.com...
>>> Anybody know if there's a cheap DVD recorder capable of recording at
>>> least eight hours?  It's for a video capture application where quality
>>> isn't an issue
>>>
>>Almost all will record for 6 hours at reduced quality.
>>
>>Wouldn't you be better off buying a Hard Drive recorder,
>>much better for continuous high quality recording,
>>and they aren't expensive anymore, take a look in Maplins
>
> I wanted video-capture -- meaning capture from a composite-video input,
> which all DVD recorders have, but Freeview PVRs don't.  And I'd assumed
> that DVD-recorders with hard drives are expensive?  I'll have to check.
>
> Anyway, I've looked at Maplin, as you suggested, and I've stumbled across
> a £70 media player/recorder and hard drive enclosure that might be
> exactly what I want.  I think it must have a video input since it says
> that it can record from a TV.
>
> http://www.maplin.co.uk/Search.aspx?criteria=A09HG
> Dave Farrance
>
That's the sort of thing, but I suspect there's dedicated equipment of a 
similar type
http://www.maplin.co.uk/Module.aspx?ModuleNo=36351&criteria=servalance%20recorder&doy=26m4

or
http://www.maplin.co.uk/Module.aspx?ModuleNo=99224&&source=14&doy=26m4

Steve Terry

Steve Terry wrote:
> "Dave Farrance"  wrote in
> message news:4to614hoprml9bbjr764qbvj4l02af6nbe@4ax.com...
>> "Trev" <trevbowdenAT.dsl.pipex.COM> wrote:
>>
>>> Dave Farrance wrote:
>>>> Anybody know if there's a cheap DVD recorder capable of recording
>>>> at least eight hours?  It's for a video capture application where
>>>> quality isn't an issue, so a cheap analogue-only dvd recorder from
>>>> a supermarket would be fine.
>>>
>>> DVD and analogue dont compute.
>>> super long play ie Mpeg 1 Is available on all the ones I have seen
>>
>> Analogue as in only an analogue tuner, I meant.  How long is super
>> long play?
>> Dave Farrance
>>
> You can only reburn a DVDrw at most a hundred times,
> i've had some fail after only about a dozen times.

Where on earth did you hear that? Maybe if they are manufactured by some 
"Arfur Daley" type character but "real" discs can be re-written about 1,000 
times:

http://www.osta.org/technology/dvdqa/dvdqa11.htm

I've used Traxdata 4X DVD+RW in my DVD recorder and re-written the same 5 
discs over 150 times now.

John
PS, I do agree with your next post that a DVD/HDD recorder is probably the 
best way to go.

"John" <replyingroup@notemail> wrote in message 
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> Steve Terry wrote:
>> "Dave Farrance"  wrote in
>> message news:4to614hoprml9bbjr764qbvj4l02af6nbe@4ax.com...
>>> "Trev" <trevbowdenAT.dsl.pipex.COM> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Dave Farrance wrote:
>>>>> Anybody know if there's a cheap DVD recorder capable of recording
>>>>> at least eight hours?  It's for a video capture application where
>>>>> quality isn't an issue, so a cheap analogue-only dvd recorder from
>>>>> a supermarket would be fine.
>>>>
>>>> DVD and analogue dont compute.
>>>> super long play ie Mpeg 1 Is available on all the ones I have seen
>>>
>>> Analogue as in only an analogue tuner, I meant.  How long is super
>>> long play?
>>> Dave Farrance
>>>
>> You can only reburn a DVDrw at most a hundred times,
>> i've had some fail after only about a dozen times.
>
> Where on earth did you hear that? Maybe if they are manufactured by some 
> "Arfur Daley" type character but "real" discs can be re-written about 
> 1,000 times:
> http://www.osta.org/technology/dvdqa/dvdqa11.htm
> I've used Traxdata 4X DVD+RW in my DVD recorder and re-written the same 5 
> discs over 150 times now.
>
Personal experience, I use mostly Philips +RW, sometimes Maxell.
I wouldn't count on any of them rewriting more than 50 times,
sometimes they easily will, sometimes they fail before that.

With DVDs you never know, not a good idea when you need reliability
like surveillance recording.

Currently HD's are the way to go, in a few years big Flash memory will take 
over

Steve Terry

Dave Farrance wrote:
> "Trev" <trevbowdenAT.dsl.pipex.COM> wrote:
>
>> Dave Farrance wrote:
>>> Anybody know if there's a cheap DVD recorder capable of recording at
>>> least eight hours?  It's for a video capture application where
>>> quality isn't an issue, so a cheap analogue-only dvd recorder from a
>>> supermarket would be fine.
>>
>> DVD and analogue dont compute.
>> super long play ie Mpeg 1 Is available on all the ones I have seen
>
> Analogue as in only an analogue tuner, I meant.  How long is super
> long play?

HQ is 60 mins
SP is 120
Lp is 180
EP is 240
slp is 360 and sep is 480

-- 
Trev
You can always tell a Yorkshire man,
But you can't tell him much.

"Trev" <trevbowdenAT.dsl.pipex.COM> wrote in message 
news:McGdnbkbX6Vg447VnZ2dnUVZ8uOdnZ2d@pipex.net...
> Dave Farrance wrote:
>> "Trev" <trevbowdenAT.dsl.pipex.COM> wrote:
>>
>>> Dave Farrance wrote:
>>>> Anybody know if there's a cheap DVD recorder capable of recording at
>>>> least eight hours?  It's for a video capture application where
>>>> quality isn't an issue, so a cheap analogue-only dvd recorder from a
>>>> supermarket would be fine.
>>>
>>> DVD and analogue dont compute.
>>> super long play ie Mpeg 1 Is available on all the ones I have seen
>>
>> Analogue as in only an analogue tuner, I meant.  How long is super
>> long play?
>
> HQ is 60 mins
> SP is 120
> Lp is 180
> EP is 240
> slp is 360 and sep is 480
>
> -- 
> Trev
> You can always tell a Yorkshire man,
> But you can't tell him much.
>
Been there with the 8 hour DVD. Not so good when after 7hrs 50 mins a 
lightning flash caused a drop in the mains and the disk was corrupted.

When I was doing it there was not any HD recorders for sensible money.

I would advise HD recorder and cut recording time into  'losable ' time 
chunks'

i.e. 8 x 1 hour recordings rather than 1x 8 hour as I  mentioned  before 
when its gone it's gone.

Its not like tape where it would just stop and be ok up to that.

Gary

Dave Farrance wrote:
> Anybody know if there's a cheap DVD recorder capable of recording at
> least eight hours?  It's for a video capture application where quality
> isn't an issue, so a cheap analogue-only dvd recorder from a
> supermarket would be fine.

If you plan on playing the recordings back on anything other than the 
machine they were recorded on, forget about anything over three hours.

(kim)

"Dave Farrance"  wrote in message 
news:pnd614drvrar9u4b71ruamib0j30gk58mf@4ax.com...
> Anybody know if there's a cheap DVD recorder capable of recording at
> least eight hours?  It's for a video capture application where quality
> isn't an issue, so a cheap analogue-only dvd recorder from a supermarket
> would be fine.
>
> -- 
> Dave Farrance

As you see from the replies, a bunch of unhelpful thicko's
who haven't got a clue.

You're doing it on a budget
It seems that portability is not an issue in seeking a DVD recorder.

You want long play but via the analoque capture outputs from
a camcorder direct to DVD disk - that is expecting a lot on a
budget to be able to convert "on-the-fly" an analoque input
signal direct to DVD.
You would be best capturing to a HDD, but again it would be
converting "on-the-fly" the analoque feed from the cam to MPEG.

Assuming you will be capturing a type of surveilance footage,
and portability is not an issue, such as wildlife overnight in your
garden etc. Where a cam is static recording a scene, then I
suggest you opt for a budget DV camcorder and if your PC has
a firewire port, then you can capture via what is known as
"pass through".
This is where you connect the DV cam to the firewire port and
simple software such as Windows Movie maker, or Nero or Roxio
(all are capable) will capture the footage direct to HDD, the only
limitations being the capacity of the HDD.
Once captured, you can then edit and convert to any format or
burn to DVD.

DV camcorders do the "on-the-fly" capture conversion, you just
ensure the budget DV cam you opt for has "DV In/Out"
Only those with "In/Out" are capable of "Pass through" that
being, rather than record the footage to tape loaded in the
camcorder it passes it through the firewire connection and
is recorded to your computers HDD.
If you google the key terms: DV, firewire, passthrough
you will find plenty of tutorials, or visit:
http://www.simplydv.co.uk/index.php
http://www.videohelp.com

With some searching you could pick up a budget DV camcorder
with bare facilities but with "In/Out" capabilities, for approx £100 new
or much less pre-owned:
http://audiovisual.kelkoo.co.uk/cp_123501_filter_media_type_mini_dv.html
(Or type in google search: mini DV camcorders)

For what I think you want to do, - continuous 8 hr capture, if direct
to DVD the compression required and the "on-the-fly" conversion
would be disasterous for quality and probably not possible.
A direct capture in high quality DV-AVI to your PC's HDD via
pass through and then edit/convert/burn is a much better option.

Capture wrote:
> "Dave Farrance"  wrote in
> message news:pnd614drvrar9u4b71ruamib0j30gk58mf@4ax.com...
>> Anybody know if there's a cheap DVD recorder capable of recording at
>> least eight hours?  It's for a video capture application where
>> quality isn't an issue, so a cheap analogue-only dvd recorder from a
>> supermarket would be fine.
>>
>> --
>> Dave Farrance
>
> As you see from the replies, a bunch of unhelpful thicko's
> who haven't got a clue.
>
> You're doing it on a budget
> It seems that portability is not an issue in seeking a DVD recorder.
>
> You want long play but via the analoque capture outputs from
> a camcorder direct to DVD disk - that is expecting a lot on a
> budget to be able to convert "on-the-fly" an analoque input
> signal direct to DVD.
> You would be best capturing to a HDD, but again it would be
> converting "on-the-fly" the analoque feed from the cam to MPEG.
>
> Assuming you will be capturing a type of surveilance footage,
> and portability is not an issue, such as wildlife overnight in your
> garden etc. Where a cam is static recording a scene, then I
> suggest you opt for a budget DV camcorder and if your PC has
> a firewire port, then you can capture via what is known as
> "pass through".
> This is where you connect the DV cam to the firewire port and
> simple software such as Windows Movie maker, or Nero or Roxio
> (all are capable) will capture the footage direct to HDD, the only
> limitations being the capacity of the HDD.
> Once captured, you can then edit and convert to any format or
> burn to DVD.
>
> DV camcorders do the "on-the-fly" capture conversion, you just
> ensure the budget DV cam you opt for has "DV In/Out"
> Only those with "In/Out" are capable of "Pass through" that
> being, rather than record the footage to tape loaded in the
> camcorder it passes it through the firewire connection and
> is recorded to your computers HDD.
> If you google the key terms: DV, firewire, passthrough
> you will find plenty of tutorials, or visit:
> http://www.simplydv.co.uk/index.php
> http://www.videohelp.com
>
> With some searching you could pick up a budget DV camcorder
> with bare facilities but with "In/Out" capabilities, for approx £100
> new or much less pre-owned:
> http://audiovisual.kelkoo.co.uk/cp_123501_filter_media_type_mini_dv.html
> (Or type in google search: mini DV camcorders)
>
> For what I think you want to do, - continuous 8 hr capture, if direct
> to DVD the compression required and the "on-the-fly" conversion
> would be disasterous for quality and probably not possible.
> A direct capture in high quality DV-AVI to your PC's HDD via
> pass through and then edit/convert/burn is a much better option.

YTC

-- 


Nige, talking utter shite since 1967.

Focus ST3
Discovery 3  XS
BMW K1200S

NIGE#1

Capture wrote:
>
> As you see from the replies, a bunch of unhelpful thicko's
> who haven't got a clue.
<snip>
> You want long play but via the analoque capture outputs from
> a camcorder direct to DVD disk - that is expecting a lot on a
> budget to be able to convert "on-the-fly" an analoque input
> signal direct to DVD.
> You would be best capturing to a HDD, but again it would be
> converting "on-the-fly" the analoque feed from the cam to MPEG.

You've got the bloody cheek to call other posters thickos, when you can't 
spell analogue and you don't know how to use an apostrophe. What does that 
make you?

Adrian wrote:
> Capture wrote:
>>
>> As you see from the replies, a bunch of unhelpful thicko's
>> who haven't got a clue.
> <snip>
>> You want long play but via the analoque capture outputs from
>> a camcorder direct to DVD disk - that is expecting a lot on a
>> budget to be able to convert "on-the-fly" an analoque input
>> signal direct to DVD.
>> You would be best capturing to a HDD, but again it would be
>> converting "on-the-fly" the analoque feed from the cam to MPEG.
>
> You've got the bloody cheek to call other posters thickos, when you
> can't spell analogue and you don't know how to use an apostrophe.
> What does that make you?

A thick cunt.

HTH


-- 


Nige, talking utter shite since 1967.

Focus ST3
Discovery 3  XS
BMW K1200S

NIGE#1

Capture wrote:
> "Dave Farrance"  wrote in
> message news:pnd614drvrar9u4b71ruamib0j30gk58mf@4ax.com...
>> Anybody know if there's a cheap DVD recorder capable of recording at
>> least eight hours?  It's for a video capture application where
>> quality isn't an issue, so a cheap analogue-only dvd recorder from a
>> supermarket would be fine.
>>
>> --
>> Dave Farrance
>
> As you see from the replies, a bunch of unhelpful thicko's
> who haven't got a clue.
>
Speak for your self. Camcorders record DV but the output from the composite 
socket is Analogue. Like wise scart on recorders is analogue.

"Trev" <trevbowdenAT.dsl.pipex.COM> wrote in message 
news:-pmdnXAS6_DiNonVnZ2dnUVZ8qydnZ2d@pipex.net...
> Capture wrote:
>> "Dave Farrance"  wrote in
>> message news:pnd614drvrar9u4b71ruamib0j30gk58mf@4ax.com...
>>> Anybody know if there's a cheap DVD recorder capable of recording at
>>> least eight hours?  It's for a video capture application where
>>> quality isn't an issue, so a cheap analogue-only dvd recorder from a
>>> supermarket would be fine.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Dave Farrance
>>
>> As you see from the replies, a bunch of unhelpful thicko's
>> who haven't got a clue.
>>
> Speak for your self. Camcorders record DV but the output from the 
> composite socket is Analogue. Like wise scart on recorders is analogue.
>
>

Like I said a bunch of thicko's who ain't got a clue.
The conversion is by the DV camcorder into DV-AVI format
and "pass through" is via firewire in the digital domain.
I'll spell it out for you thicko,
The connections won't be analog via composite or scart
The connection will be firewire - digital
The DV cam will capture footage as DV-AVI, thats digital.
The DV cam won't record to DV tape,
It will "pass through" direct to the PC's capture software as DV-AVI
Digital from start to finish.

"Adrian"  wrote in message 
news:gZOdnWSRAr5lPonVnZ2dnUVZ8rGdnZ2d@brightview.com...
> Capture wrote:
>>
>> As you see from the replies, a bunch of unhelpful thicko's
>> who haven't got a clue.
> <snip>
>> You want long play but via the analoque capture outputs from
>> a camcorder direct to DVD disk - that is expecting a lot on a
>> budget to be able to convert "on-the-fly" an analoque input
>> signal direct to DVD.
>> You would be best capturing to a HDD, but again it would be
>> converting "on-the-fly" the analoque feed from the cam to MPEG.
>
> You've got the bloody cheek to call other posters thickos, when you can't 
> spell analogue and you don't know how to use an apostrophe. What does that 
> make you?
>

Is that best you can counter with - a grammer lame!! ROFLMFAO!!

Capture wrote:
> "Trev" <trevbowdenAT.dsl.pipex.COM> wrote in message
> news:-pmdnXAS6_DiNonVnZ2dnUVZ8qydnZ2d@pipex.net...
>> Capture wrote:
>>> "Dave Farrance"  wrote in
>>> message news:pnd614drvrar9u4b71ruamib0j30gk58mf@4ax.com...
>>>> Anybody know if there's a cheap DVD recorder capable of recording
>>>> at least eight hours?  It's for a video capture application where
>>>> quality isn't an issue, so a cheap analogue-only dvd recorder from
>>>> a supermarket would be fine.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Dave Farrance
>>>
>>> As you see from the replies, a bunch of unhelpful thicko's
>>> who haven't got a clue.
>>>
>> Speak for your self. Camcorders record DV but the output from the
>> composite socket is Analogue. Like wise scart on recorders is
>> analogue.
>
> Like I said a bunch of thicko's who ain't got a clue.
> The conversion is by the DV camcorder into DV-AVI format
> and "pass through" is via firewire in the digital domain.
> I'll spell it out for you thicko,
> The connections won't be analog via composite or scart
> The connection will be firewire - digital
> The DV cam will capture footage as DV-AVI, thats digital.
> The DV cam won't record to DV tape,
> It will "pass through" direct to the PC's capture software as DV-AVI
> Digital from start to finish.

Not via the composite output socket or does your cam not have that. Then 
again not many recorders have Firewire

-- 
Trev
You can always tell a Yorkshire man,
But you can't tell him much.

"Trev" <trevbowdenAT.dsl.pipex.COM> wrote in message 
news:m5Sdnb9AcMPqQInVnZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d@pipex.net...
> Capture wrote:
>> "Trev" <trevbowdenAT.dsl.pipex.COM> wrote in message
>> news:-pmdnXAS6_DiNonVnZ2dnUVZ8qydnZ2d@pipex.net...
>>> Capture wrote:
>>>> "Dave Farrance"  wrote in
>>>> message news:pnd614drvrar9u4b71ruamib0j30gk58mf@4ax.com...
>>>>> Anybody know if there's a cheap DVD recorder capable of recording
>>>>> at least eight hours?  It's for a video capture application where
>>>>> quality isn't an issue, so a cheap analogue-only dvd recorder from
>>>>> a supermarket would be fine.
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Dave Farrance
>>>>
>>>> As you see from the replies, a bunch of unhelpful thicko's
>>>> who haven't got a clue.
>>>>
>>> Speak for your self. Camcorders record DV but the output from the
>>> composite socket is Analogue. Like wise scart on recorders is
>>> analogue.
>>
>> Like I said a bunch of thicko's who ain't got a clue.
>> The conversion is by the DV camcorder into DV-AVI format
>> and "pass through" is via firewire in the digital domain.
>> I'll spell it out for you thicko,
>> The connections won't be analog via composite or scart
>> The connection will be firewire - digital
>> The DV cam will capture footage as DV-AVI, thats digital.
>> The DV cam won't record to DV tape,
>> It will "pass through" direct to the PC's capture software as DV-AVI
>> Digital from start to finish.
>
> Not via the composite output socket or does your cam not have that. Then 
> again not many recorders have Firewire
>
> -- 
> Trev
> You can always tell a Yorkshire man,
> But you can't tell him much.
>

Read the thread moron, there is NO reference to composite,
the guide is to capture direct via firewire which all DV cams have
direct to a PC via firewire. The guide is about DV pass through
from capture to a PC in the digital domain. Not to a cheap DVD
recorder. As I said thicko's without a clue...

Capture wrote:
> "Trev" <trevbowdenAT.dsl.pipex.COM> wrote in message
> news:m5Sdnb9AcMPqQInVnZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d@pipex.net...
>> Capture wrote:
>>> "Trev" <trevbowdenAT.dsl.pipex.COM> wrote in message
>>> news:-pmdnXAS6_DiNonVnZ2dnUVZ8qydnZ2d@pipex.net...
>>>> Capture wrote:
>>>>> "Dave Farrance"  wrote in
>>>>> message news:pnd614drvrar9u4b71ruamib0j30gk58mf@4ax.com...
>>>>>> Anybody know if there's a cheap DVD recorder capable of recording
>>>>>> at least eight hours?  It's for a video capture application where
>>>>>> quality isn't an issue, so a cheap analogue-only dvd recorder
>>>>>> from a supermarket would be fine.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Dave Farrance
>>>>>
>>>>> As you see from the replies, a bunch of unhelpful thicko's
>>>>> who haven't got a clue.
>>>>>
>>>> Speak for your self. Camcorders record DV but the output from the
>>>> composite socket is Analogue. Like wise scart on recorders is
>>>> analogue.
>>>
>>> Like I said a bunch of thicko's who ain't got a clue.
>>> The conversion is by the DV camcorder into DV-AVI format
>>> and "pass through" is via firewire in the digital domain.
>>> I'll spell it out for you thicko,
>>> The connections won't be analog via composite or scart
>>> The connection will be firewire - digital
>>> The DV cam will capture footage as DV-AVI, thats digital.
>>> The DV cam won't record to DV tape,
>>> It will "pass through" direct to the PC's capture software as DV-AVI
>>> Digital from start to finish.
>>
>> Not via the composite output socket or does your cam not have that.
>> Then again not many recorders have Firewire
>>
>> --
>> Trev
>> You can always tell a Yorkshire man,
>> But you can't tell him much.
>>
>
> Read the thread moron, there is NO reference to composite,
> the guide is to capture direct via firewire which all DV cams have
> direct to a PC via firewire. The guide is about DV pass through
> from capture to a PC in the digital domain. Not to a cheap DVD
> recorder. As I said thicko's without a clue...

Pot kettle black, you can't spell or punctuate.  You're the fucking moron.

Capture wrote:
> "Trev" <trevbowdenAT.dsl.pipex.COM> wrote in message
> news:m5Sdnb9AcMPqQInVnZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d@pipex.net...
>> Capture wrote:
>>> "Trev" <trevbowdenAT.dsl.pipex.COM> wrote in message
>>> news:-pmdnXAS6_DiNonVnZ2dnUVZ8qydnZ2d@pipex.net...
>>>> Capture wrote:
>>>>> "Dave Farrance"  wrote in
>>>>> message news:pnd614drvrar9u4b71ruamib0j30gk58mf@4ax.com...
>>>>>> Anybody know if there's a cheap DVD recorder capable of recording
>>>>>> at least eight hours?  It's for a video capture application where
>>>>>> quality isn't an issue, so a cheap analogue-only dvd recorder
>>>>>> from a supermarket would be fine.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Dave Farrance
>>>>>
>>>>> As you see from the replies, a bunch of unhelpful thicko's
>>>>> who haven't got a clue.
>>>>>
>>>> Speak for your self. Camcorders record DV but the output from the
>>>> composite socket is Analogue. Like wise scart on recorders is
>>>> analogue.
>>>
>>> Like I said a bunch of thicko's who ain't got a clue.
>>> The conversion is by the DV camcorder into DV-AVI format
>>> and "pass through" is via firewire in the digital domain.
>>> I'll spell it out for you thicko,
>>> The connections won't be analog via composite or scart
>>> The connection will be firewire - digital
>>> The DV cam will capture footage as DV-AVI, thats digital.
>>> The DV cam won't record to DV tape,
>>> It will "pass through" direct to the PC's capture software as DV-AVI
>>> Digital from start to finish.
>>
>> Not via the composite output socket or does your cam not have that.
>> Then again not many recorders have Firewire
>>
>> --
>> Trev
>> You can always tell a Yorkshire man,
>> But you can't tell him much.
>>
>
> Read the thread moron, there is NO reference to composite,
> the guide is to capture direct via firewire which all DV cams have
> direct to a PC via firewire. The guide is about DV pass through
> from capture to a PC in the digital domain. Not to a cheap DVD
> recorder. As I said thicko's without a clue...

Oh Yes There is

<Quote>I wanted video-capture -- meaning capture from a composite-video 
input,
which all DVD recorders have, but Freeview PVRs don't.  And I'd assumed
that DVD-recorders with hard drives are expensive?  I'll have to check.

Anyway, I've looked at Maplin, as you suggested, and I've stumbled across
a £70 media player/recorder and hard drive enclosure that might be
exactly what I want.  I think it must have a video input since it says
that it can record from a TV. < />



-- 
Trev
You can always tell a Yorkshire man,
But you can't tell him much.

Capture wrote:
> "Trev" <trevbowdenAT.dsl.pipex.COM> wrote in message 
> news:m5Sdnb9AcMPqQInVnZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d@pipex.net...
>> Capture wrote:
>>> "Trev" <trevbowdenAT.dsl.pipex.COM> wrote in message
>>> news:-pmdnXAS6_DiNonVnZ2dnUVZ8qydnZ2d@pipex.net...
>>>> Capture wrote:
>>>>> "Dave Farrance"  wrote in
>>>>> message news:pnd614drvrar9u4b71ruamib0j30gk58mf@4ax.com...
>>>>>> Anybody know if there's a cheap DVD recorder capable of recording
>>>>>> at least eight hours?  It's for a video capture application where
>>>>>> quality isn't an issue, so a cheap analogue-only dvd recorder from
>>>>>> a supermarket would be fine.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Dave Farrance
>>>>> As you see from the replies, a bunch of unhelpful thicko's
>>>>> who haven't got a clue.
>>>>>
>>>> Speak for your self. Camcorders record DV but the output from the
>>>> composite socket is Analogue. Like wise scart on recorders is
>>>> analogue.
>>> Like I said a bunch of thicko's who ain't got a clue.
>>> The conversion is by the DV camcorder into DV-AVI format
>>> and "pass through" is via firewire in the digital domain.
>>> I'll spell it out for you thicko,
>>> The connections won't be analog via composite or scart
>>> The connection will be firewire - digital
>>> The DV cam will capture footage as DV-AVI, thats digital.
>>> The DV cam won't record to DV tape,
>>> It will "pass through" direct to the PC's capture software as DV-AVI
>>> Digital from start to finish.
>> Not via the composite output socket or does your cam not have that. Then 
>> again not many recorders have Firewire
>>
>> -- 
>> Trev
>> You can always tell a Yorkshire man,
>> But you can't tell him much.
>>
> 
> Read the thread moron, there is NO reference to composite,
> the guide is to capture direct via firewire which all DV cams have
> direct to a PC via firewire. The guide is about DV pass through
> from capture to a PC in the digital domain. Not to a cheap DVD
> recorder. As I said thicko's without a clue... 
> 

I say old chap, would you mind awfully keeping the noise down? Some of 
us are trying to sleep over here in umd and you're making a ghastly racket.

Now run along and wave your penis at strangers elsewhere. There's a good 
man.


  -Kevin.

"Capture"  once tried to test me. I ate their liver 
with some fava beans and a nice chianti

> I'll spell it out for you thicko,

It looks like you were never hugged enough as a child...

-- 
Thank you kindly

POD  {Ò¿Ó}
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   Oh people, know that you have committed great sins. 
    If you ask me what proof I have for these words, 
    I say it is because I am the punishment of God. 
         If you had not committed great sins, 
  God would not have sent a punishment like me upon you.
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POD {Ò¿Ó} wrote:
> "Capture"  once tried to test me. I ate their
> liver with some fava beans and a nice chianti
>
>> I'll spell it out for you thicko,
>
> It looks like you were never hugged enough as a child...

Probably kept in the cellar & bummed by his mum for 24 years.

-- 


Nige, talking utter shite since 1967.

Focus ST3
Discovery 3  XS
BMW K1200S

NIGE#1

POD {Ò¿Ó} wrote:
> "Capture"  once tried to test me. I ate their
> liver with some fava beans and a nice chianti
>
>> I'll spell it out for you thicko,
>
> It looks like you were never hugged enough as a child...

Or maybe too much.

"Adrian"  once tried to test me. I ate their liver 
with some fava beans and a nice chianti

> POD {Ò¿Ó} wrote:
>> "Capture"  once tried to test me. I ate their
>> liver with some fava beans and a nice chianti
>>
>>> I'll spell it out for you thicko,
>>
>> It looks like you were never hugged enough as a child...
> 
> Or maybe too much. 
> 

Yeah, by his dad...

-- 
Thank you kindly

POD  {Ò¿Ó}
¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸
   Oh people, know that you have committed great sins. 
    If you ask me what proof I have for these words, 
    I say it is because I am the punishment of God. 
         If you had not committed great sins, 
  God would not have sent a punishment like me upon you.
¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸

"POD {Ò¿Ó}"  wrote in message 
news:Xns9A8F92F89ECBWeLovePOD@195.188.240.200...
> "Adrian"  once tried to test me. I ate their liver
> with some fava beans and a nice chianti
>
>> POD {Ò¿Ó} wrote:
>>> "Capture"  once tried to test me. I ate 
>>> their
>>> liver with some fava beans and a nice chianti
>>>
>>>> I'll spell it out for you thicko,
>>>
>>> It looks like you were never hugged enough as a child...
>>
>> Or maybe too much.
>>
>
> Yeah, by his dad...
>

You two are only jealous, what was it like being raised by the stray 
dog?...

FUS