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date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 01:25:05 GMT,
group: uk.media.dvd
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Play.com presents: Mike, the rudest manager Alive
full version (with images and video) here:
http://pyrosblog.blogspot.com/2007/12/playcom-now-with-added-rudness.html
http://preview.tinyurl.com/26a3db
I've been Christmas shopping on play.com
I wanted the following:
Seed of Chucky (DVD)
Wayne's World 1&2 (DVD)
The Naked Jape, by Jimmy Carr (Book)
Imagine my Joy when I found that I could get all of those (and "bride of
chucky" thrown in) for £15!
Now, I grant you, dispite my adding 3 '3 for £15' items to my cart, the
total at the bottom said £18.47 - but 3 "3 for £15" item must mean that
they'll sort out the discount before they charge you, right?
Wrong.
Not to worry, a quick call to customer services, I'll get my £3.47 back
and all will be right with the world, right?
Wrong again.
Apparently, I can't mix books and DVDs.
"but" says I," there are 3 identical '3 for £15 icons'"
"yes" says the Play.com worker "3 DVDs for £15, or 3 Books for £15"
"It doesn't say that" says I.
"Yes it does" says Play.com "on the offer page"
"I didn't go to the offer page" says I "I just searched for the items"
"there's nothing I can do" says the customer dis-service employee
"I'll ask trading standards" says I
"A manager will call you back" says the pleb.
"thank you" says I.
A few minuets later a manager ("Mike") did indeed return my call.
"Oh good" thinks I "an organ grinder"
But, alas, Mike was simply a higher ranking monkey - and a rude one to
boot!
When I explained that I had added 3 '3 for £15' items to my cart, but
been charged full price, he again informed me that this was because I
had ordered 2 DVDs and a Book, and that the offer did not say I could
mix and match.
I pointed out that the site did not say I couldn't mix and match, and
Mike informed me that the top of the offer page stated "3 DVDs for £15"
in very large letters, and that if I couldn't see it I "Needed glasses"
At this point in the conversation (having been insulted by someone who
was clearly in the wrong) I will admit that from that point on my
composure faltered, however I continued to attempt to reason with Mike.
I pointed out that I hadn't been to the page with the large notice of
which he spoke, he continued to insist that it was there, I explained
that I didn't deny that it was there, but that you could (and I did)
order those items without ever navigating to that page, and asked if I
could show Mike how.
When I asked him to search for "jape" hew refused, when asked why, he
replied "because you're a bigger jape than I am" and threatened to
terminate the call.
I pointed out that "jape" was the search used to find one of the items,
but that he was welcome to search for "chucky" as I couldn't turn that
into an insult if I wanted to.
When he searched for "chucky" Mike immediately, and aggressively
announced that there were no offer items on the search and started
reeling off his search results.
It became apparent that Mike had searched under "books", when I asked
him to please look under "all products" he claimed that he didn't have
time to keep running searches, and would not.
He again re-iterated that the "3 DVDs for £15" was at the top of the
offer page, and became rude when asked to run searches that would prove
that the 3 items could be ordered without ever seeing that page.
--
The more I see of my dickhead half brother...
...the more I think Cain was onto somthing!
Will Tingle
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date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 01:25:05 GMT
author: Will Tingle
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Re: Play.com presents: Mike, the rudest manager Alive
> But, alas, Mike was simply a higher ranking monkey - and a rude one to
> boot!
Just cancel the order, and make sure you cancel the transaction on
your card.
date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 01:40:28 -0000
author: Colin Wilson
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Re: Play.com presents: Mike, the rudest manager Alive
On 12 Dec, 01:40, Colin Wilson
wrote:
> > But, alas, Mike was simply a higher ranking monkey - and a rude one to
> > boot!
>
> Just cancel the order, and make sure you cancel the transaction on
> your card.
I can't remember the last time I bought anything from Play. I use
http://www.find-dvd.co.uk
to search for lowest prices and bizarrely it's usually HMV who are the
cheapest for new releases. There's no shortage of competition, take
your business elsewhere.
date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 00:26:39 -0800 (PST)
author: WW
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Re: Play.com presents: Mike, the rudest manager Alive
Will Tingle wrote:
> He again re-iterated that the "3 DVDs for £15" was at the top of the
> offer page, and became rude when asked to run searches that would prove
> that the 3 items could be ordered without ever seeing that page.
>
Well done Will, I feel your pain. I hate it when companies interpret
their advertisements in bizarre ways like that. Of course it's not about
the extra £3.47 either. You should get what you are informed you would
get for the price you are told.
I have no doubt you'd have a good chance at the small claims court or
get some help at a consumer agency (or possibly advertising standards?),
but I bet play.com aren't exactly bricking themselves at the prospect.
Still, from the look of your youtube video you just might have the heart
for it.
I hope you do. Keep us informed -and best of luck with it!
-Kevin.
PS. I could save you £18.47 right now if you'd cancel all 3 of those
items. They're not worth any price -even as gifts! ;)
date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 09:52:39 +0000
author: Gunther Gloop
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Re: Play.com presents: Mike, the rudest manager Alive
An infinite number of primates hammered away at an infinite number of
typewriters. Colin Wilson
said:
>> But, alas, Mike was simply a higher ranking monkey - and a rude one to
>> boot!
>
>Just cancel the order, and make sure you cancel the transaction on
>your card.
It already shipped.
--
The more I see of my dickhead half brother...
...the more I think Cain was onto somthing!
Will Tingle
Remove YOUR.PANTS to e-mail
date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 11:28:11 GMT
author: Will Tingle
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Re: Play.com presents: Mike, the rudest manager Alive
An infinite number of primates hammered away at an infinite number of
typewriters. Gunther Gloop said:
>Will Tingle wrote:
>> He again re-iterated that the "3 DVDs for £15" was at the top of the
>>offer page, and became rude when asked to run searches that would
>>prove that the 3 items could be ordered without ever seeing that page.
>>
>
>Well done Will, I feel your pain. I hate it when companies interpret
>their advertisements in bizarre ways like that. Of course it's not
>about the extra £3.47 either. You should get what you are informed you
>would get for the price you are told.
Exactly, if it was about £3.47, then making the video / blog entry would
have been an exceptionally poor valuation of my time.
>
>I have no doubt you'd have a good chance at the small claims court or
>get some help at a consumer agency (or possibly advertising
>standards?), but I bet play.com aren't exactly bricking themselves at
>the prospect. Still, from the look of your youtube video you just might
>have the heart for it.
I did think of that (and yes, I certainly do have the heart for it) but
they're based in Jersy - I'm really not sure how I stand on small
claims.
I have informed Jersy's trading standards, but await a reply.
>
>I hope you do. Keep us informed -and best of luck with it!
>
>
> -Kevin.
>
>
>PS. I could save you £18.47 right now if you'd cancel all 3 of those
>items.
Already charged and shipped.
>They're not worth any price -even as gifts! ;)
;)
>
--
The more I see of my dickhead half brother...
...the more I think Cain was onto somthing!
Will Tingle
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date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 11:34:26 GMT
author: Will Tingle
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Re: Play.com presents: Mike, the rudest manager Alive
Like he said, you can't mix and match :P
Why didn't you just leave it at that? unless of course your having a 'jape'.
Life's too short.
--
RobertJM
date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 11:53:34 -0000
author: RobertJM
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Re: Play.com presents: Mike, the rudest manager Alive
RobertJM wrote:
> Like he said, you can't mix and match :P
>
> Why didn't you just leave it at that? unless of course your having a 'jape'.
>
> Life's too short.
>
It'd cost play.com nothing to have 3 seperate "3 for £15" icons for the
three seperate offers, rather than causing any confusion.
Even if the icons were just different colours for dvds, books, cds it'd
make it somewhat clearer.
How many £3.47s have play.com made for themselves by having one icon
instead of three I wonder?
-Kevin.
date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 12:03:13 +0000
author: Gunther Gloop
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Re: Play.com presents: Mike, the rudest manager Alive
An infinite number of primates hammered away at an infinite number of
typewriters. RobertJM said:
>Like he said, you can't mix and match :P
>
>Why didn't you just leave it at that? unless of course your having a 'jape'.
>
>Life's too short.
>
>
I'm glad your principles are worth less than £3.50, I'm afraid I don't
come so cheap.
Besides, if you deceive a few hundred customers into parting with and
extra £3.47 each, it racks up.
--
The more I see of my dickhead half brother...
...the more I think Cain was onto somthing!
Will Tingle
Remove YOUR.PANTS to e-mail
date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 13:33:20 GMT
author: Will Tingle
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Re: Play.com presents: Mike, the rudest manager Alive
An infinite number of primates hammered away at an infinite number of
typewriters. Gunther Gloop said:
>RobertJM wrote:
>> Like he said, you can't mix and match :P
>> Why didn't you just leave it at that? unless of course your having a
>>'jape'.
>> Life's too short.
>>
>
>It'd cost play.com nothing to have 3 seperate "3 for £15" icons for the
>three seperate offers, rather than causing any confusion.
>Even if the icons were just different colours for dvds, books, cds it'd
>make it somewhat clearer.
Or even better a "3 DVDs for £15" icon , a "3 Books for £15" icon etc.
>
>How many £3.47s have play.com made for themselves by having one icon
>instead of three I wonder?
Exactly!
--
The more I see of my dickhead half brother...
...the more I think Cain was onto somthing!
Will Tingle
Remove YOUR.PANTS to e-mail
date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 13:52:43 GMT
author: Will Tingle
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Re: Play.com presents: Mike, the rudest manager Alive
Will Tingle wrote in news:6Y
$n9hK5bzXHFwJS@willsbedroom.freeserve.co.uk:
> full version (with images and video) here:
>
> http://pyrosblog.blogspot.com/2007/12/playcom-now-with-added-rudness.html
>
> http://preview.tinyurl.com/26a3db
The thing is that it would make absolutely no difference to them if they
mix and match as the result is the same for them financially. He is just
sticking up for a stupid error on their part to the hilt because he just
wants to be right after saying you couldn't do it.
What a douche
DLS
date: 12 Dec 2007 15:30:40 GMT
author: Damon
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Re: Play.com presents: Mike, the rudest manager Alive
Will Tingle wrote:
> An infinite number of primates hammered away at an infinite number of
> typewriters. Colin Wilson
> said:
>>> But, alas, Mike was simply a higher ranking monkey - and a rude one to
>>> boot!
>>
>> Just cancel the order, and make sure you cancel the transaction on
>> your card.
>
> It already shipped.
Well, that's OK. Get the goods, then 'phone-up your credit card company
and put the transaction(s) in dispute when the bill arrives. That way,
you have the items and you'll not be charged until the issue is resolved.
Clem
date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 17:55:41 GMT
author: Clem Dye
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Re: Play.com presents: Mike, the rudest manager Alive
An infinite number of primates hammered away at an infinite number of
typewriters. Clem Dye said:
>Will Tingle wrote:
>> An infinite number of primates hammered away at an infinite number of
>>typewriters. Colin Wilson
>> said:
>>>> But, alas, Mike was simply a higher ranking monkey - and a rude one to
>>>> boot!
>>>
>>> Just cancel the order, and make sure you cancel the transaction on
>>> your card.
>> It already shipped.
>
>Well, that's OK. Get the goods, then 'phone-up your credit card company
>and put the transaction(s) in dispute when the bill arrives. That way,
>you have the items and you'll not be charged until the issue is
>resolved.
Ah, that's nice thinking.
thanks.
--
The more I see of my dickhead half brother...
...the more I think Cain was onto somthing!
Will Tingle
Remove YOUR.PANTS to e-mail
date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 20:32:46 GMT
author: Will Tingle
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Re: Play.com presents: Mike, the rudest manager Alive
I don't what has happened to Play.com recently. They used to be excellent.
I ordered Downfall earlier this year and got Apocalypto. I sent it back, no
problem...after all the error was theirs and according to their policy they
would refund my postal costs.
They did send me Downfall straight away...this was back in July. To date I
have yet to receive a refund of my postal costs. Last time I phoned them
(September) I was told it took time to investigate. I will give them another
call and point out that surely 5 months is a long time to investigate?
Anyway, as someone else pointed out - shop around (I use
www.billybargains.co.uk).
SC
date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 20:37:49 -0000
author: steve_c
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Re: Play.com presents: Mike, the rudest manager Alive
An infinite number of primates hammered away at an infinite number of
typewriters. steve_c said:
>I don't what has happened to Play.com recently. They used to be excellent.
>
>I ordered Downfall earlier this year and got Apocalypto. I sent it back, no
>problem...after all the error was theirs and according to their policy they
>would refund my postal costs.
Not just Policy, the law!
>
>They did send me Downfall straight away...this was back in July. To date I
>have yet to receive a refund of my postal costs. Last time I phoned them
>(September) I was told it took time to investigate. I will give them another
>call and point out that surely 5 months is a long time to investigate?
The trouble with the phone game is that the monkey you speak to has no
real responsibility within the company.
Send them a recorded delivery letter to head office, and give them 14
days to refund you (don't say "14 days" either - pick a date 16/17 days
after you post the letter).
If (when) they don't refund you, give Trading Standards in Jersey a
call.
I've spoken to Jersey Trading Standards, and I'm waiting for a case
worker to get back to me.
--
The more I see of my dickhead half brother...
...the more I think Cain was onto somthing!
Will Tingle
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date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 22:18:22 GMT
author: Will Tingle
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Re: Play.com presents: Mike, the rudest manager Alive
"Clem Dye" wrote in message
news:xgV7j.8438$h35.969@newsfe2-gui.ntli.net...
> Will Tingle wrote:
> > An infinite number of primates hammered away at an infinite number of
> > typewriters. Colin Wilson
> > said:
> >>> But, alas, Mike was simply a higher ranking monkey - and a rude one to
> >>> boot!
> >>
> >> Just cancel the order, and make sure you cancel the transaction on
> >> your card.
> >
> > It already shipped.
>
> Well, that's OK. Get the goods, then 'phone-up your credit card company
> and put the transaction(s) in dispute when the bill arrives. That way,
> you have the items and you'll not be charged until the issue is resolved.
Or say you never got them and get a credit on your account for missing
goods!
date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 12:08:07 -0000
author: Commander Gideon
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Re: Play.com presents: Mike, the rudest manager Alive
"steve_c" wrote in message
news:SLydndTwyIw42_3anZ2dnUVZ8saonZ2d@bt.com...
> I don't what has happened to Play.com recently. They used to be excellent.
I have never really had a problem with them,maybe just delivery issues (7
days to Ireland) and i notice they are upping their prices slightly!
date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 12:11:48 -0000
author: Commander Gideon
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Re: Play.com presents: Mike, the rudest manager Alive
On Thu, 13 Dec 2007 12:08:07 GMT, "Commander Gideon"
allegedly wrote:
> "Clem Dye" wrote in message
> news:xgV7j.8438$h35.969@newsfe2-gui.ntli.net...
>> Well, that's OK. Get the goods, then 'phone-up your credit card
>> company and put the transaction(s) in dispute when the bill arrives.
>> That way, you have the items and you'll not be charged until the
>> issue is resolved.
>
> Or say you never got them and get a credit on your account for missing
> goods!
If one is getting into a beef with a company, which may or may not take a
turn into legal circles, then committing fraud probably isn't a good idea.
date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 13:25:51 +0000 (UTC)
author: Anuk Su Namun
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Re: Play.com presents: Mike, the rudest manager Alive
Commander Gideon wrote:
> "steve_c" wrote in message
> news:SLydndTwyIw42_3anZ2dnUVZ8saonZ2d@bt.com...
>> I don't what has happened to Play.com recently. They used to be excellent.
>
> I have never really had a problem with them,maybe just delivery issues (7
> days to Ireland) and i notice they are upping their prices slightly!
>
>
I've never had a real problem with Play, although things got a little
mixed-up once when I returned two DVDs in the same package - it seems
that their Returns department expects titles to be returned singly -
perhaps they don't teach reading at skool in Jersey. They've always
promptly refunded postal charges. However, I do agree with another
poster - Play's prices are starting to get a little on the pricey side.
I find myself using HMV for most of my R2 purchases now - HMV always
used to be expensive but seem to be getting keener on pricing lately.
Web stores remind me of Indian restaurants: when they open they give
great service, but over time things go off the boil (no pun intended)
and service gets poorer. Customers then avoid theses companies which
either then go to the wall or make efforts to improve. I'll continue to
use Play if their prices are good but if I start getting less than
satisfactory performance I'll go elsewhere - there are plenty of other
good e-tailers out there.
Clem
date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 18:17:18 GMT
author: Clem Dye
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Re: Play.com presents: Mike, the rudest manager Alive
Just to keep you all informed:
Still waiting for a reply from Play.com (and indeed from Trading
Standards)
Looking at the forums of moneysavingexpert.com, others have had similar
problems (with pricing, not with Monkey Mike the Play.com Customer
Disservice Manager) even when ordering 3 DVDs
--
The more I see of my dickhead half brother...
...the more I think Cain was onto somthing!
Will Tingle
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date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 16:57:49 GMT
author: Will Tingle
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Re:Play.com presents: Mike, the rudest manager Alive
I am furious with Play.com, I purchased Rock band instruments for the X box., the drum pedal has broken and the the pads are showing signs of wear, as it was only received on 24th May I thought that I would be covered because it is obviously faulty goods. I first rang them on 19th June and was told to get hold of the manufacturers, I sent 5 emails but had no response, rang Play again only to be told that the goods were out of 28 day warranty. I have got hold of trading standards in Jersey and am waiting for a reply. This item cost £99.99 if it was a fiver it wouldn't be so bad but I am not letting this go and I advise anyone to check out what your rights are before buying anything from Play.comurl:http://myreader.co.uk/msg/11167487.aspx
date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 14:42:39 +0800
author: glenda skews
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Re:Play.com presents: Mike, the rudest manager Alive
"glenda skews" once tried to test me. I ate
their liver with some fava beans and a nice chianti
> I am furious with Play.com, I purchased Rock band instruments for the
> X box., the drum pedal has broken and the the pads are showing signs
> of wear, as it was only received on 24th May I thought that I would be
> covered because it is obviously faulty goods. I first rang them on
> 19th June and was told to get hold of the manufacturers, I sent 5
> emails but had no response, rang Play again only to be told that the
> goods were out of 28 day warranty. I have got hold of trading
> standards in Jersey and am waiting for a reply. This item cost £99.99
> if it was a fiver it wouldn't be so bad but I am not letting this go
> and I advise anyone to check out what your rights are before buying
> anything from Play.com
>
> url:http://myreader.co.uk/msg/11167487.aspx
>
See how my decent news programme has wrapped your one long unreadable
line of text...
--
Thank you kindly
POD {Ò¿Ó}
¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸
Oh people, know that you have committed great sins.
If you ask me what proof I have for these words,
I say it is because I am the punishment of God.
If you had not committed great sins,
God would not have sent a punishment like me upon you.
¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸
date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 18:23:57 GMT
author: POD {???}
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Re: Re:Play.com presents: Mike, the rudest manager Alive
"POD {Ò¿Ó}" wrote in message
news:Xns9AC7C560D577WeLovePOD@195.188.240.200...
> See how my decent news programme has wrapped your one long unreadable
> line of text...
BLATANT thread hijack !
Hi Bud...
Where did those Doctor Who single episode DVDs come from !?
And other than reposts, how can you get hold of the earlier ones??
(Or even just Forest of the Dead!)??
Cheers!!
--
Covenant
A Man With Far Too Much Time On His Hands
date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 21:03:01 +0100
author: Covenant
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Re: Re:Play.com presents: Mike, the rudest manager Alive
"Covenant" once tried to
test me. I ate their liver with some fava beans and a nice chianti
>
> "POD {Ò¿Ó}" wrote in message
> news:Xns9AC7C560D577WeLovePOD@195.188.240.200...
>
>> See how my decent news programme has wrapped your one long unreadable
>> line of text...
>
>
> BLATANT thread hijack !
>
> Hi Bud...
>
> Where did those Doctor Who single episode DVDs come from !?
>
> And other than reposts, how can you get hold of the earlier ones??
> (Or even just Forest of the Dead!)??
>
> Cheers!!
>
I made them, in a.b.drwho a nice girl called scheherazade caps all the
material and posts it, and I just stick it all together and add a menu.
If you have a half decent news server, they should all be available in
there, as they are all under 100 days old.
--
Thank you kindly
POD {Ò¿Ó}
¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸
Oh people, know that you have committed great sins.
If you ask me what proof I have for these words,
I say it is because I am the punishment of God.
If you had not committed great sins,
God would not have sent a punishment like me upon you.
¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸
date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 11:09:32 GMT
author: POD {???}
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Re: Re:Play.com presents: Mike, the rudest manager Alive
"POD {Ò¿Ó}" wrote in message
news:Xns9AC87BBB48EFWeLovePOD@195.188.240.200...
> "Covenant" once tried to
> test me. I ate their liver with some fava beans and a nice chianti
>
>>
>> "POD {Ò¿Ó}" wrote in message
>> news:Xns9AC7C560D577WeLovePOD@195.188.240.200...
>>
>>> See how my decent news programme has wrapped your one long unreadable
>>> line of text...
>>
>>
>> BLATANT thread hijack !
>>
>> Hi Bud...
>>
>> Where did those Doctor Who single episode DVDs come from !?
>>
>> And other than reposts, how can you get hold of the earlier ones??
>> (Or even just Forest of the Dead!)??
>>
>> Cheers!!
>>
>
> I made them, in a.b.drwho a nice girl called scheherazade caps all the
> material and posts it, and I just stick it all together and add a menu.
Bloody hell !!!
VERY nice work !
In fact, I'd go so far as to say the second best *fan* menus I've ever seen!
(The star wars IV revisited disc just edges you out.... *just*... (Although
those were templated from something that already exists!)
> If you have a half decent news server, they should all be available in
> there, as they are all under 100 days old.
YEahhh... there's the problem....
;' )
Cheers
--
Covenant
A Man With Far Too Much Time On His Hands
date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 20:22:00 +0100
author: Covenant
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