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date: Mon, 28 Jan 2008 02:22:03 -0500,    group: uk.media        back       
Huckabee / Paul - It Just Feels Right   
"...It's amazing. I'm the only guy who's just getting hammered from some of
these special interest groups, and I think that'll really turn for me and
against some of these folks. Because it's pretty obvious that, there's gotta
be, almost this, I don't want to use the word conspiracy, but there's just
an anxiety that exists in the Washington power circles about our
candidacy..." - MIKE HUCKABEE

http://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/mark-finkelstein/2008/01/16/huckabee-i-dont-want-use-word-conspiracy
date: Mon, 28 Jan 2008 02:22:03 -0500   author:   Meldon

Re: Huckabee / Paul - It Just Feels Right   
Are you suggesting that Huckabee should run with Ron Paul? No you cant be no 
one would be insane enough to think there policies are similar. Ron Paul 
stands for protecting the Constitution while Huckabee wishes to change it. 
Paul is a conservative Huckabee is neocon scum.

"Meldon"  wrote in message 
news:13pr0chnr7be1ce@corp.supernews.com...
> "...It's amazing. I'm the only guy who's just getting hammered from some 
> of
> these special interest groups, and I think that'll really turn for me and
> against some of these folks. Because it's pretty obvious that, there's 
> gotta
> be, almost this, I don't want to use the word conspiracy, but there's just
> an anxiety that exists in the Washington power circles about our
> candidacy..." - MIKE HUCKABEE
>
> http://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/mark-finkelstein/2008/01/16/huckabee-i-dont-want-use-word-conspiracy
>
>
>
date: Mon, 28 Jan 2008 18:37:00 +1100   author:   Seon Ferguson

Re: Huckabee / Paul - It Just Feels Right   
Yes, I'm suggesting an H/P ticket.

I'm not sure if having similar policies is a prerequisite for VP.

Ron Paul stands for protecting the constitution for what it once was, not 
what is has become. Huckabee / Paul could prove more similar in this regard 
than you imply.

Further and more importantly, its about obtaining votes. Conservative versus 
Neo-Conservative could alternately be viewed as a collaboration within the 
party to forge an alliance that attracts votes from both those groups.

The current field from the democrats will likely result in a gender or 
racially based contender. What better competition could there be than a Con 
/ Neo-con ticket? I'd estimate republicans to achieve 60% of the popular 
vote.



"Seon Ferguson"  wrote in message 
news:479d8644$0$9750$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
> Are you suggesting that Huckabee should run with Ron Paul? No you cant be 
> no one would be insane enough to think there policies are similar. Ron 
> Paul stands for protecting the Constitution while Huckabee wishes to 
> change it. Paul is a conservative Huckabee is neocon scum.
>
> "Meldon"  wrote in message 
> news:13pr0chnr7be1ce@corp.supernews.com...
>> "...It's amazing. I'm the only guy who's just getting hammered from some 
>> of
>> these special interest groups, and I think that'll really turn for me and
>> against some of these folks. Because it's pretty obvious that, there's 
>> gotta
>> be, almost this, I don't want to use the word conspiracy, but there's 
>> just
>> an anxiety that exists in the Washington power circles about our
>> candidacy..." - MIKE HUCKABEE
>>
>> http://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/mark-finkelstein/2008/01/16/huckabee-i-dont-want-use-word-conspiracy
>>
>>
>>
>
date: Mon, 28 Jan 2008 04:18:48 -0500   author:   Meldon

Re: Huckabee / Paul - It Just Feels Right   
Huckabee wants to change the Constitution and there is no way Ron Paul would 
let him. Not for a second.
A conservative and a neo conservative working together would work as well as 
if someone built a time machine, sent one of the founding fathers to the 
future and made them run with George Bush. Or Ron Paul and Hillary Clinton 
trying to work together. Choosing Huckabee as your vice President would be 
making the same mistake Reagan made when he chose Bush the 1st as his. We 
both know how that worked out.
Besides I think Huckabee's campaign is almost as bad as Rudy's. He's only 
won one state and come in second once (unless I'm mistaken) Its nice to see 
Ron Paul beating most of the neo conservatives though.


"Meldon"  wrote in message 
news:13pr77m8kihsj7a@corp.supernews.com...
> Yes, I'm suggesting an H/P ticket.
>
> I'm not sure if having similar policies is a prerequisite for VP.
>
> Ron Paul stands for protecting the constitution for what it once was, not 
> what is has become. Huckabee / Paul could prove more similar in this 
> regard than you imply.
>
> Further and more importantly, its about obtaining votes. Conservative 
> versus Neo-Conservative could alternately be viewed as a collaboration 
> within the party to forge an alliance that attracts votes from both those 
> groups.
>
> The current field from the democrats will likely result in a gender or 
> racially based contender. What better competition could there be than a 
> Con / Neo-con ticket? I'd estimate republicans to achieve 60% of the 
> popular vote.
>
>
>
> "Seon Ferguson"  wrote in message 
> news:479d8644$0$9750$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
>> Are you suggesting that Huckabee should run with Ron Paul? No you cant be 
>> no one would be insane enough to think there policies are similar. Ron 
>> Paul stands for protecting the Constitution while Huckabee wishes to 
>> change it. Paul is a conservative Huckabee is neocon scum.
>>
>> "Meldon"  wrote in message 
>> news:13pr0chnr7be1ce@corp.supernews.com...
>>> "...It's amazing. I'm the only guy who's just getting hammered from some 
>>> of
>>> these special interest groups, and I think that'll really turn for me 
>>> and
>>> against some of these folks. Because it's pretty obvious that, there's 
>>> gotta
>>> be, almost this, I don't want to use the word conspiracy, but there's 
>>> just
>>> an anxiety that exists in the Washington power circles about our
>>> candidacy..." - MIKE HUCKABEE
>>>
>>> http://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/mark-finkelstein/2008/01/16/huckabee-i-dont-want-use-word-conspiracy
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
date: Mon, 28 Jan 2008 20:52:22 +1100   author:   Seon Ferguson

Re: Huckabee / Paul - It Just Feels Right   
Boy seon once again displays his total ignorance of US politics.

"Seon Ferguson"  wrote in message 
news:479da5fd$0$9777$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
> Huckabee wants to change the Constitution and there is no way Ron Paul 
> would let him. Not for a second.
> A conservative and a neo conservative working together would work as well 
> as if someone built a time machine, sent one of the founding fathers to 
> the future and made them run with George Bush. Or Ron Paul and Hillary 
> Clinton trying to work together. Choosing Huckabee as your vice President 
> would be making the same mistake Reagan made when he chose Bush the 1st as 
> his. We both know how that worked out.
> Besides I think Huckabee's campaign is almost as bad as Rudy's. He's only 
> won one state and come in second once (unless I'm mistaken) Its nice to 
> see Ron Paul beating most of the neo conservatives though.
>
>
> "Meldon"  wrote in message 
> news:13pr77m8kihsj7a@corp.supernews.com...
>> Yes, I'm suggesting an H/P ticket.
>>
>> I'm not sure if having similar policies is a prerequisite for VP.
>>
>> Ron Paul stands for protecting the constitution for what it once was, not 
>> what is has become. Huckabee / Paul could prove more similar in this 
>> regard than you imply.
>>
>> Further and more importantly, its about obtaining votes. Conservative 
>> versus Neo-Conservative could alternately be viewed as a collaboration 
>> within the party to forge an alliance that attracts votes from both those 
>> groups.
>>
>> The current field from the democrats will likely result in a gender or 
>> racially based contender. What better competition could there be than a 
>> Con / Neo-con ticket? I'd estimate republicans to achieve 60% of the 
>> popular vote.
>>
>>
>>
>> "Seon Ferguson"  wrote in message 
>> news:479d8644$0$9750$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
>>> Are you suggesting that Huckabee should run with Ron Paul? No you cant 
>>> be no one would be insane enough to think there policies are similar. 
>>> Ron Paul stands for protecting the Constitution while Huckabee wishes to 
>>> change it. Paul is a conservative Huckabee is neocon scum.
>>>
>>> "Meldon"  wrote in message 
>>> news:13pr0chnr7be1ce@corp.supernews.com...
>>>> "...It's amazing. I'm the only guy who's just getting hammered from 
>>>> some of
>>>> these special interest groups, and I think that'll really turn for me 
>>>> and
>>>> against some of these folks. Because it's pretty obvious that, there's 
>>>> gotta
>>>> be, almost this, I don't want to use the word conspiracy, but there's 
>>>> just
>>>> an anxiety that exists in the Washington power circles about our
>>>> candidacy..." - MIKE HUCKABEE
>>>>
>>>> http://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/mark-finkelstein/2008/01/16/huckabee-i-dont-want-use-word-conspiracy
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
date: Mon, 28 Jan 2008 08:22:11 -0500   author:   Animal02

Re: Huckabee / Paul - It Just Feels Right   
"Seon Ferguson"  wrote in message 
news:479da5fd$0$9777$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
> Huckabee wants to change the Constitution and there is no way Ron Paul 
> would let him. Not for a second.

That is an over-simplification. Even if your assertion that one wants and 
the other doesn't want to change the constitution, it doesn't account for 
political compromise especially if a VP role was the result. Besides, unless 
I'm mistaken, congress plays a greater role in such matters


> A conservative and a neo conservative working together would work as well 
> as if someone built a time machine, sent one of the founding fathers to 
> the future and made them run with George Bush.

Not quite. A founding father would not have the benefit of the past 250 
years of history, but two current candidates would.

>Or Ron Paul and Hillary Clinton trying to work together.

That ticket would not appeal to anyone. The streangth of the H/P ticket is 
broad appeal. It also provides a built-in check and balance since as you 
claim, one is more willing to change the constitution while other other 
doesn't.

>Choosing Huckabee as your vice President would be making the same mistake 
>Reagan made when he chose Bush the 1st as his. We both know how that worked 
>out.

Not sure if that statement carries any convincing evidence.

> Besides I think Huckabee's campaign is almost as bad as Rudy's. He's only 
> won one state and come in second once (unless I'm mistaken) Its nice to 
> see Ron Paul beating most of the neo conservatives though.
>

I think you might be getting low on points to make a convincing argument 
with. At this point while the list is thinning out, there is still some time 
until November.
date: Mon, 28 Jan 2008 15:14:56 -0500   author:   Meldon

Re: Huckabee / Paul - It Just Feels Right   
"Animal02"  wrote in message 
news:pPqdnc2pQpXGSgDanZ2dnUVZ_o6knZ2d@wideopenwest.com...
> Boy seon once again displays his total ignorance of US politics.
>
At least I'm not a top poster.
date: Tue, 29 Jan 2008 09:37:46 +1100   author:   Seon Ferguson

Re: Huckabee / Paul - It Just Feels Right   
"Meldon"  wrote in message 
news:13psdllrg80ji08@corp.supernews.com...
>
> "Seon Ferguson"  wrote in message 
> news:479da5fd$0$9777$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
>> Huckabee wants to change the Constitution and there is no way Ron Paul 
>> would let him. Not for a second.
>
> That is an over-simplification. Even if your assertion that one wants and 
> the other doesn't want to change the constitution, it doesn't account for 
> political compromise especially if a VP role was the result. Besides, 
> unless I'm mistaken, congress plays a greater role in such matters
>
>
What's so over simplified about it? Huckabee has said he wants to change the 
Consitution for God or something. I can give you an exact quote if you like. 
I was trying not to bloviate like I usually do maybe thats why I sounded 
that way.
Yeah that would work out if it was Huckabee/Romney or Huckabee/McCain but I 
honestly dont believe any of the candidates running will work well with 
Paul.

>> A conservative and a neo conservative working together would work as well 
>> as if someone built a time machine, sent one of the founding fathers to 
>> the future and made them run with George Bush.
>
> Not quite. A founding father would not have the benefit of the past 250 
> years of history, but two current candidates would.
>
I doubt a founding father would "compromise" when Bush destroys the 4th 
Amendment or gets rid of habeas corpus in the name of preventing another 
911. The founding fathers fought and died for the freedom's America enjoys 
today there is no way they would agree on taking away those freedoms for 
security. They knew that governments eventually turned corrupt that's one of 
the reasons why I believe they created the Constitution and Bill of Rights.

>>Or Ron Paul and Hillary Clinton trying to work together.
>
> That ticket would not appeal to anyone. The streangth of the H/P ticket is 
> broad appeal. It also provides a built-in check and balance since as you 
> claim, one is more willing to change the constitution while other other 
> doesn't.
>
Not only that Hillary and Ron Paul are opposite ends of the voting spectrum. 
That's what I meant.

>>Choosing Huckabee as your vice President would be making the same mistake 
>>Reagan made when he chose Bush the 1st as his. We both know how that 
>>worked out.
>
> Not sure if that statement carries any convincing evidence.
>
The Iran/Contra scandal, funding Saddam, The Afghanistan resistance against 
the Soviets, the activities of the CIA and the many bombings America took 
part in. If Reagan hadn't sided with the neocon's he might be turned into 
founding father material. Although his economic plan saves him.

>> Besides I think Huckabee's campaign is almost as bad as Rudy's. He's only 
>> won one state and come in second once (unless I'm mistaken) Its nice to 
>> see Ron Paul beating most of the neo conservatives though.
>>
>
> I think you might be getting low on points to make a convincing argument 
> with. At this point while the list is thinning out, there is still some 
> time until November.
>
>
>
But Rudy hasn't won once. Ok I'll tell you what I'll wait till super Tuesday 
if he hasn't won then I will go back to my previous stance on him. How's 
that?
date: Tue, 29 Jan 2008 09:49:15 +1100   author:   Seon Ferguson

Re: Huckabee / Paul - It Just Feels Right   
"Seon Ferguson"  wrote in message 
news:479e5960$0$9739$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
>
> "Animal02"  wrote in message 
> news:pPqdnc2pQpXGSgDanZ2dnUVZ_o6knZ2d@wideopenwest.com...
>> Boy seon once again displays his total ignorance of US politics.
>>
> At least I'm not a top poster.

<YAWN>   buy yourself a clue


>
date: Mon, 28 Jan 2008 20:05:49 -0500   author:   Animal02

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