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          Cynic  wrote:

> >> As others have already pointed out, the available evidence does not
> >> support your assumption that the rise (if any) in number of addicts
> >> would be great enough to lead to a rise in total amount of crime.

> >Odd then that the Dutch are re-thinking their lasseiz faire attitude, not
> >just towards brothels but also towards "cannabis cafes".

> Please give the reasons the Dutch have put forward - is it because of
> a rise in crime?

I believe so. In fact the most recent closure of a brothel was specifically
because it had come under the control of biker gangs and was being used for
trafficking and money laundering.

Ken Down

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On Thu, 10 Jan 2008 06:45:43 GMT, Kendall K. Down
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>In message 
>          Mike_B  wrote:
>
>> I think to answer that you would need to explain your differentiation 
>> between drug use and drug abuse.  Just as we have laws against drinking 
>> "drunk and disorderly" for those who abuse a legal substance, we could 
>> have similar laws for those who abuse other legalised drugs. It doesn't 
>> follow that drug use should be unlawful.
>
>The only valid use for drugs is when properly prescribed as medicine. Any
>other use is abuse.

I see.  So drinking a cup of coffee is drug abuse, whilst an addict's
use of methadone is perfectly OK.

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On Thu, 10 Jan 2008 19:43:29 +0000, Cynic wrote:

> On Thu, 10 Jan 2008 06:45:43 GMT, Kendall K. Down
>  wrote:
> 
>>In message 
>>          Mike_B  wrote:
>>
>>> I think to answer that you would need to explain your differentiation
>>> between drug use and drug abuse.  Just as we have laws against drinking
>>> "drunk and disorderly" for those who abuse a legal substance, we could
>>> have similar laws for those who abuse other legalised drugs. It doesn't
>>> follow that drug use should be unlawful.
>>
>>The only valid use for drugs is when properly prescribed as medicine. Any
>>other use is abuse.
> 
> I see.  So drinking a cup of coffee is drug abuse, whilst an addict's use
> of methadone is perfectly OK.

I doubt if the troll knows what is a drug and what isn't.

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          Cynic  wrote:

> Probably the worst drug for causing antisocial behaviour is alcohol.

I agree.

> The most common illegal drug, cannabis, does the exact opposite.

I disagree. True, while the person is puffing away he is nice and mellow
(too mellow to do anything useful, but that's another problem!) However as a
result of cannabis smoking the person becomes paranoid and *then* he goes
out and stabs someone.
 
> I think you have swallowed the propaganda hook, line & sinker.

No, I read the news reports of what happens up here.
 
Ken Down

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