It seems SHELL at Stanlow is being picketed by a group of greedy tanker 
drivers.  £32,000 for a 45 hour week is a great wage for a fairly unskilled 
driving job.  The HGV licence is nothing special.  Why have Cheshire Police 
not moved them along using Anti-Terrorist Laws?  They did this to fuel 
protestors a few weeks ago, closed the roads off and threatened to arrest 
people if they did not leave the area.
Maybe it is one rule for one and another for those the police seem to like. 
The Police are NOT currently doing their job which is nothing new in that 
area.  I do not agree with greedy workers taking this sort of action, but do 
agree with protests over fuel costs.  So if the drivers get a wage increase 
it means we all have to pay more.
I do hope SHELL refuse to get involved, sue the contractors for breach of 
contract and employ other HGV drivers - there are plenty about looking for 
work who would love £32,000 a year.

"john m" <john@nospam.2net> wrote in message 
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> It seems SHELL at Stanlow is being picketed by a group of greedy tanker 
> drivers.  £32,000 for a 45 hour week is a great wage for a fairly 
> unskilled driving job.  The HGV licence is nothing special.  Why have 
> Cheshire Police not moved them along using Anti-Terrorist Laws?  They did 
> this to fuel protestors a few weeks ago, closed the roads off and 
> threatened to arrest people if they did not leave the area.
> Maybe it is one rule for one and another for those the police seem to 
> like. The Police are NOT currently doing their job which is nothing new in 
> that area.  I do not agree with greedy workers taking this sort of action, 
> but do agree with protests over fuel costs.  So if the drivers get a wage 
> increase it means we all have to pay more.
> I do hope SHELL refuse to get involved, sue the contractors for breach of 
> contract and employ other HGV drivers - there are plenty about looking for 
> work who would love £32,000 a year.
>
Gawd you take it all in hook line and sinker. Don't you Claude.

On Fri, 13 Jun 2008 18:40:49 +0100, "john m" <john@nospam.2net> wrote:

>It seems SHELL at Stanlow is being picketed by a group of greedy tanker 
>drivers.  £32,000 for a 45 hour week is a great wage for a fairly unskilled 
>driving job.  The HGV licence is nothing special. 

I take it that you have an HGV Class I licence? 

Admittedly, the test MAY have got a lot easier since I watched my
father go through all the studying in the early 70s, but somehow I
doubt it. I was revising for my GCEs at one end of the table, he was
doing all the book work required to try for his HGV I at the other
end, so I remember it quite well. For a man who'd left school at 14
(to work on the family farm, WWII had just started) it was no small
feat. 


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In message , Brian 
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>I take it that you have an HGV Class I licence?
>
>Admittedly, the test MAY have got a lot easier since I watched my
>father go through all the studying in the early 70s, but somehow I
>doubt it. I was revising for my GCEs at one end of the table, he was
>doing all the book work required to try for his HGV I at the other
>end, so I remember it quite well. For a man who'd left school at 14
>(to work on the family farm, WWII had just started) it was no small
>feat.
>
>
>Brian.
Is it even the same test? I'm fairly sure you need an HGV license and 
then another qualification to allow you to drive a tanker with flammable 
liquids so there aren't 'plenty' of HGV drivers who can do the job. 
Besides, troll springs to mind for the OP.
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On Sun, 15 Jun 2008 23:35:28 +0100, Clint Sharp
 wrote:

>In message , Brian 
> writes
>>I take it that you have an HGV Class I licence?
>>
>>Admittedly, the test MAY have got a lot easier since I watched my
>>father go through all the studying in the early 70s, but somehow I
>>doubt it. I was revising for my GCEs at one end of the table, he was
>>doing all the book work required to try for his HGV I at the other
>>end, so I remember it quite well. For a man who'd left school at 14
>>(to work on the family farm, WWII had just started) it was no small
>>feat.
>>
>>
>>Brian.
>Is it even the same test? I'm fairly sure you need an HGV license and 
>then another qualification to allow you to drive a tanker with flammable 
>liquids so there aren't 'plenty' of HGV drivers who can do the job. 

To the best of my recollection, there wasn't back then. I'm not
*certain* of that, though, and I have no idea what the current
situation might be. 

>Besides, troll springs to mind for the OP.

Possibly. I imagine you'd find a few others who shared the OP's views,
though, even if it was just an attempted troll. 

Brian. 


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>To the best of my recollection, there wasn't back then. I'm not
>*certain* of that, though, and I have no idea what the current
>situation might be.
>
There definitely is an extra part to the test, ADR. It covers hazardous 
and flammable loads and I think it is required to be retaken every year 
from a quick skim reading. Comes in multiple parts and you are required 
to take the core and one extra (minimum) part or more if you want to 
haul multi loads.
>>Besides, troll springs to mind for the OP.
>
>Possibly. I imagine you'd find a few others who shared the OP's views,
>though, even if it was just an attempted troll.
Entirely possible but I am very much of the opinion that there are two 
sides to every story and I'm fairly sure that the reported salaries are 
a maximum rather than the average. Besides, when did it become wrong to 
protest your cause?
>Brian.
>
>

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