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HUNDREDS of Muslims paraded through the streets of Bolton to celebrate
the birth of the prophet Mohammed today.

More than 500 people, including many children, joined the annual
procession through Great Lever.

Participants carrying banners and flags travelled from Makka Mosque, on
Grecian Crescent, through the streets, before returning to the mosque.

The event also honoured the work of the late Sheikh Grandmaster Sufi
Mohammed Aslam, a Muslim leader, who came to England in the 1960s.

He settled in Blackburn and did a lot of work with young Muslims.

His son Mohammed Riaz led the parade.

Tassadaq Hussain, one of the organisers of the procession, said: "The
purpose is to let the local community know the great work of Sufi
Mohammed Aslam.

"He developed youngsters, teaching them basic Islam and to live in
harmony and peace in the community."

Food was enjoyed before the parade and afterwards there were
presentations on Sufi Mohammed Aslam's teachings, before more food.

RESPONSE TO ISLAMIC PROPAGANDISTS

(They'll never reply to this. They don't have the guts, nor the
intellectual capacity, to reply to this.)

===

Extract from *MANKIND IN AMNESIA* by Immanuel Velikovsky, pages
105-106:

THE SEVENTH CENTURY AND THE DARK AGES

In the seventh century - The Dark Middle Age in Europe - the embers of
long-extinguished fires suddenly blew hot in Arabia. An illiterate
camel driver, who till then had worshipped the planet Venus 10, felt
in himself the spirit of the Lord's messenger, and his orations - the
suras of the Koran - already in the next generation were carried by
the sword of conquest to Morocco and to India. Of ancient times
Mohammed (570?-632) knew only what he heard at random at the gates of
the rabbinical schools of Medina, and this was confused in his mind -
Miriam, sister of Moses, was for him the same as Mary, mother of Jesus
11, and Jesus the same as Joshua, son of Nun, who carried on the
conquest of Canaan. Hanam, the Persian vizier, became a vizier of the
Pharaoh of the Exodus. 12 But his message was of mountains moving and
of nature revolting, and of life extinguishing for unbelievers when
moral laws are broken down:

"They [the unbelievers] think the Day of Judgement is far off; but We
see it near at hand.

Are they waiting for the Hour of Doom to overtake them unawares? Its
portents have already come.

The Hour of Doom is drawing near.

On that day the heaven will shake and reel, and the mountains crumble
and cease to be... On that day the earth will be rent asunder and they
shall rush from it in haste.

Wait for the day when the sky will pour down blinding smoke,
enveloping all men: a dreadful scourge.

When earth and all its mountains is raised high and with one mighty
crash is scattered in the dust - on that day the Dread Event will come
to pass. Frail and tottering the sky will be rent asunder...

When the sun ceases to shine; when the stars fall down and mountains
are blown away... when the seas are set alight... and the heaven is
stripped bare.... 13 "

The change in the places of the stars, moving away together with the
firmament, the disturbances in the Sun, the change in the geological
structure of the Earth, the boiling and disappearance of the sea - all
are images of the past.

-------------------------------

10 Al Kalbi. See Philip Hitti, "History of the Arabs" (Princeton,
1937), p.99.

11 The Koran, Chapter 19, translated by N. J. Dawood (London, 1956).

12 Ibid., Chapters 29, 40.

13 Ibid., Chapters 70, 47, 57, 50, 44, 69, 81 respectively.
-------------------------------

(End of extract from *MANKIND IN AMNESIA* by Immanuel Velikovsky).
==========================

Muslim extremists say "death to those who criticise Islam!"

But why?

If Islam is the true religion, then Muslims only have to state their
case, and if they can prove they are right, we all will have to agree
with them.

But then if, instead of arguing their case in a free and rational
debate, they say only "death to those who criticise Islam" - that can
only be because they know their beliefs will not stand up to honest
scrutiny.

I have quoted directly from Velikovsky above, in which he pointed out
apparent inconsistencies in the Koran, showing a lack of knowledge on
the part of Mohammed.

This is not my fight, and I am not trying to prove anything.

However, Christians are happy to acknowledge strange contradictions in
the alleged utterances of Jesus.

I invite Muslim readers to address the above statements by Velikovsky
(first paragraph) alleging lack of knowledge on the part of Mohammed.

And if all you can say is that you are going to kill me for quoting
the above, well then you are declaring yourselves to be intellectually
bankrupt and that Islam cannot stand up to honest scrutiny.

How about an honest debate on this, then?

Read the parts of the Koran mentioned by Velikovsky above (first
paragraph), and evaluate them honestly, without screaming that you are
going to kill anyone who evaluates the Koran honestly, which would
only mean that you know your religion is false and so you must issue
death threats to shield Islam from honest scrutiny!
==================

----------------------------------------------------------------------------IRISH CATHOLICS AND MUSLIMS – the connection
----------------------------------------------------------------------------Irish Catholics (Irish born) over the age of 55 can identify with the
horrendously cruel religious abuse being suffered by Muslims today.

The symbols and the fake doctrines are slightly different, but the
emotional damage is much the same in the cases of Ireland in the 1950s
and Muslim communities today.

Even the symbols are part of the same continuum in both Catholicism
and Islam.

In particular, if you look at the Crescent displayed above Mosques,
and then walk into a Roman Catholic church and look at the statue of
Mary, you will see the very same symbol - the Crescent - sticking out
from Mary's ankles..... or sometimes under her feet......
http://www.goines.net/Writing/mary_queen_of_heaven.gif
http://www.salemthesoldier.us/crescent_moon.jpg
(Image links are sometimes unreliable. Search internet for comparisons
between statues of Mary and the Muslim crescent.)

The Crescent is "The Horns of Ishtar" - and the Crescent above the
mosque and the Crescent under Mary's feet are one and the same:- a
representation of a vague and fading memory of one feature of the
terrifying apparitions that appeared in the sky 3,400 years ago....
..... giving rise to the three major world religions.....

Symbols aside, the victims of Irish Catholicism in the 1950s, and the
victims of Islam today, need to get together and to help one another
to recover from religious abuse.

Irish Catholics over the age of 55 can make a valuable contribution to
helping Muslims to recover from what their parents and teachers have
done to them, just as Irish Catholics have picked up the pieces, and
have forgiven their mothers and fathers and teachers for the viciously
cruel religious abuse they visited upon us, and then we have moved on
and lived our lives as best we could in the shadow of that early
religious abuse.

Let's get together on this. If you grew up in Ireland in the 1950s,
then you experienced almost exactly the same religious abuse that
Muslims are suffering today.

Let all Muslims turn to Irish-born people over the age of 55 years for
advice on coping with the emotional legacy of religious abuse.

-------
-Pete
"Listen, Little Man!"
http://marukuwato.multiply.com/journal/item/62

“I Still Miss Someone”
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"Steve Greene" <stephen_greene.@hotmail.com.invalid> wrote in message
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>
http://www.asianimage.co.uk/display.var.2279441.0.celebrating_muslims_parade
_through_bolton_streets.php
>
> HUNDREDS of Muslims paraded through the streets of Bolton to celebrate
> the birth of the prophet Mohammed today.
>
> More than 500 people, including many children, joined the annual
> procession through Great Lever.
>
> Participants carrying banners and flags travelled from Makka Mosque, on
> Grecian Crescent, through the streets, before returning to the mosque.
>
> The event also honoured the work of the late Sheikh Grandmaster Sufi
> Mohammed Aslam, a Muslim leader, who came to England in the 1960s.
>
> He settled in Blackburn and did a lot of work with young Muslims.
>
> His son Mohammed Riaz led the parade.
>
> Tassadaq Hussain, one of the organisers of the procession, said: "The
> purpose is to let the local community know the great work of Sufi
> Mohammed Aslam.
>
> "He developed youngsters, teaching them basic Islam and to live in
> harmony and peace in the community."
>
> Food was enjoyed before the parade and afterwards there were
> presentations on Sufi Mohammed Aslam's teachings, before more food.

On the basis that they are endlessly allowed to import marriage partners
from there 'home' countries, and that they tend to have 4 to5 children,each,
AND that they are also allowed to import 4 wives each, you can see that it
won't be too long before England becomes North Pakistan.
.

Pellucid wrote:
> "Steve Greene" <stephen_greene.@hotmail.com.invalid> wrote in message
> news:c2n134t09arivu96umr41j9dhu54soig7e@4ax.com...
> http://www.asianimage.co.uk/display.var.2279441.0.celebrating_muslims_parade
> _through_bolton_streets.php
>> HUNDREDS of Muslims paraded through the streets of Bolton to celebrate
>> the birth of the prophet Mohammed today.
>>
>> More than 500 people, including many children, joined the annual
>> procession through Great Lever.
>>
>> Participants carrying banners and flags travelled from Makka Mosque, on
>> Grecian Crescent, through the streets, before returning to the mosque.
>>
>> The event also honoured the work of the late Sheikh Grandmaster Sufi
>> Mohammed Aslam, a Muslim leader, who came to England in the 1960s.
>>
>> He settled in Blackburn and did a lot of work with young Muslims.
>>
>> His son Mohammed Riaz led the parade.
>>
>> Tassadaq Hussain, one of the organisers of the procession, said: "The
>> purpose is to let the local community know the great work of Sufi
>> Mohammed Aslam.
>>
>> "He developed youngsters, teaching them basic Islam and to live in
>> harmony and peace in the community."
>>
>> Food was enjoyed before the parade and afterwards there were
>> presentations on Sufi Mohammed Aslam's teachings, before more food.
> 
> On the basis that they are endlessly allowed to import marriage partners
> from there 'home' countries, and that they tend to have 4 to5 children,each,
> AND that they are also allowed to import 4 wives each, you can see that it
> won't be too long before England becomes North Pakistan.
> .
> 
> 
its been full of wankers for centuries.....maybe a better class of 
workers is what we need

"KJ"  wrote in message
news:ReydnaBr8q9zl67VnZ2dnUVZ8qDinZ2d@bt.com...
> Pellucid wrote:
> > "Steve Greene" <stephen_greene.@hotmail.com.invalid> wrote in message
> > news:c2n134t09arivu96umr41j9dhu54soig7e@4ax.com...
> >
http://www.asianimage.co.uk/display.var.2279441.0.celebrating_muslims_parade
> > _through_bolton_streets.php
> >> HUNDREDS of Muslims paraded through the streets of Bolton to celebrate
> >> the birth of the prophet Mohammed today.
> >>
> >> More than 500 people, including many children, joined the annual
> >> procession through Great Lever.
> >>
> >> Participants carrying banners and flags travelled from Makka Mosque, on
> >> Grecian Crescent, through the streets, before returning to the mosque.
> >>
> >> The event also honoured the work of the late Sheikh Grandmaster Sufi
> >> Mohammed Aslam, a Muslim leader, who came to England in the 1960s.
> >>
> >> He settled in Blackburn and did a lot of work with young Muslims.
> >>
> >> His son Mohammed Riaz led the parade.
> >>
> >> Tassadaq Hussain, one of the organisers of the procession, said: "The
> >> purpose is to let the local community know the great work of Sufi
> >> Mohammed Aslam.
> >>
> >> "He developed youngsters, teaching them basic Islam and to live in
> >> harmony and peace in the community."
> >>
> >> Food was enjoyed before the parade and afterwards there were
> >> presentations on Sufi Mohammed Aslam's teachings, before more food.
> >
> > On the basis that they are endlessly allowed to import marriage partners
> > from there 'home' countries, and that they tend to have 4 to5
children,each,
> > AND that they are also allowed to import 4 wives each, you can see that
it
> > won't be too long before England becomes North Pakistan.
> > .
> >
> >
> its been full of wankers for centuries.....maybe a better class of
> workers is what we need
>
Obviously what we need is more people like you,
-what was your last job?
.

On Tue, 20 May 2008 17:46:56 +0100, "Pellucid" 
wrote:

>On the basis that they are endlessly allowed to import marriage partners
>from there 'home' countries, and that they tend to have 4 to5 children,each,
>AND that they are also allowed to import 4 wives each, you can see that it
>won't be too long before England becomes North Pakistan.

This is getting to be really interesting. Birmingham is projected to
become the first British city with a Muslim majority. It won't be the
last. either, and the UK will slowly but surely become a Muslim nation
and a part of Dar al-Islam.

Of course there are those, a lot of them, who say this doesn't matter
a jot since Islam is no different than Christianity or any other
religion and the UK is a nation of immigrants anyway. According to
this view, which is the predominant one at all political levels,
nothing will change since there was nothing uniquely identifiable and
worth preserving there that could be changed in the first place.

What a daft position to take. A really breathtaking blind stupidity.
It will be fun to see those Politically Correct dreamers get the shock
of their lives when Muslim values start to replace their own Western
Liberal values. 

But it will be too late to do anything about it by then. I wouldn't
like to be around while it is happening and I'm glad I jumped ship
years ago and am safely living abroad. 

I do find it fascinating in a macabre sort of way watching the UK
heading towards voluntary extinction and Islamification. But if that's
what you want, that's what you'll get, who am I to argue against it? 

Good luck, but I wouldn't change places with you.

Svenne

Pellucid wrote:
> "KJ"  wrote in message
> news:ReydnaBr8q9zl67VnZ2dnUVZ8qDinZ2d@bt.com...
>> Pellucid wrote:
>>> "Steve Greene" <stephen_greene.@hotmail.com.invalid> wrote in message
>>> news:c2n134t09arivu96umr41j9dhu54soig7e@4ax.com...
>>>
> http://www.asianimage.co.uk/display.var.2279441.0.celebrating_muslims_parade
>>> _through_bolton_streets.php
>>>> HUNDREDS of Muslims paraded through the streets of Bolton to celebrate
>>>> the birth of the prophet Mohammed today.
>>>>
>>>> More than 500 people, including many children, joined the annual
>>>> procession through Great Lever.
>>>>
>>>> Participants carrying banners and flags travelled from Makka Mosque, on
>>>> Grecian Crescent, through the streets, before returning to the mosque.
>>>>
>>>> The event also honoured the work of the late Sheikh Grandmaster Sufi
>>>> Mohammed Aslam, a Muslim leader, who came to England in the 1960s.
>>>>
>>>> He settled in Blackburn and did a lot of work with young Muslims.
>>>>
>>>> His son Mohammed Riaz led the parade.
>>>>
>>>> Tassadaq Hussain, one of the organisers of the procession, said: "The
>>>> purpose is to let the local community know the great work of Sufi
>>>> Mohammed Aslam.
>>>>
>>>> "He developed youngsters, teaching them basic Islam and to live in
>>>> harmony and peace in the community."
>>>>
>>>> Food was enjoyed before the parade and afterwards there were
>>>> presentations on Sufi Mohammed Aslam's teachings, before more food.
>>> On the basis that they are endlessly allowed to import marriage partners
>>> from there 'home' countries, and that they tend to have 4 to5
> children,each,
>>> AND that they are also allowed to import 4 wives each, you can see that
> it
>>> won't be too long before England becomes North Pakistan.
>>> .
>>>
>>>
>> its been full of wankers for centuries.....maybe a better class of
>> workers is what we need
>>
> Obviously what we need is more people like you,
> -what was your last job?
> .
> 
> 
signed on once in 1979 for one week

Svenne wrote:
> On Tue, 20 May 2008 17:46:56 +0100, "Pellucid" 
> wrote:
> 
>> On the basis that they are endlessly allowed to import marriage partners
>>from there 'home' countries, and that they tend to have 4 to5 children,each,
>> AND that they are also allowed to import 4 wives each, you can see that it
>> won't be too long before England becomes North Pakistan.
> 
> This is getting to be really interesting. Birmingham is projected to
> become the first British city with a Muslim majority. It won't be the
> last. either, and the UK will slowly but surely become a Muslim nation
> and a part of Dar al-Islam.
> 
> Of course there are those, a lot of them, who say this doesn't matter
> a jot since Islam is no different than Christianity or any other
> religion and the UK is a nation of immigrants anyway. According to
> this view, which is the predominant one at all political levels,
> nothing will change since there was nothing uniquely identifiable and
> worth preserving there that could be changed in the first place.
> 
> What a daft position to take. A really breathtaking blind stupidity.
> It will be fun to see those Politically Correct dreamers get the shock
> of their lives when Muslim values start to replace their own Western
> Liberal values. 
> 
> But it will be too late to do anything about it by then. I wouldn't
> like to be around while it is happening and I'm glad I jumped ship
> years ago and am safely living abroad. 
> 
> I do find it fascinating in a macabre sort of way watching the UK
> heading towards voluntary extinction and Islamification. But if that's
> what you want, that's what you'll get, who am I to argue against it? 
> 
> Good luck, but I wouldn't change places with you.
> 
> Svenne
they will all have converted to christianity by then...what will 
argument against them be then?

"Svenne"  wrote in message
news:ks163491lbdicm9th1ctkn0uoevpiifvcj@4ax.com...
> On Tue, 20 May 2008 17:46:56 +0100, "Pellucid" 
> wrote:
>
> >On the basis that they are endlessly allowed to import marriage partners
> >from there 'home' countries, and that they tend to have 4 to5
children,each,
> >AND that they are also allowed to import 4 wives each, you can see that
it
> >won't be too long before England becomes North Pakistan.
>
> This is getting to be really interesting. Birmingham is projected to
> become the first British city with a Muslim majority. It won't be the
> last. either, and the UK will slowly but surely become a Muslim nation
> and a part of Dar al-Islam.
>
> Of course there are those, a lot of them, who say this doesn't matter
> a jot since Islam is no different than Christianity or any other
> religion and the UK is a nation of immigrants anyway. According to
> this view, which is the predominant one at all political levels,
> nothing will change since there was nothing uniquely identifiable and
> worth preserving there that could be changed in the first place.
>
> What a daft position to take. A really breathtaking blind stupidity.
> It will be fun to see those Politically Correct dreamers get the shock
> of their lives when Muslim values start to replace their own Western
> Liberal values.
>
> But it will be too late to do anything about it by then. I wouldn't
> like to be around while it is happening and I'm glad I jumped ship
> years ago and am safely living abroad.
>
> I do find it fascinating in a macabre sort of way watching the UK
> heading towards voluntary extinction and Islamification. But if that's
> what you want, that's what you'll get, who am I to argue against it?
>
> Good luck, but I wouldn't change places with you.
>
> Svenne
>
I think you are dead right Svenne, but, jumping ship used to be called
'Traitor!'
-which means that you don't have a (peg leg) to stand on.
.

On Tue, 20 May 2008 18:53:37 +0100, KJ  wrote:

>Svenne wrote:
>> On Tue, 20 May 2008 17:46:56 +0100, "Pellucid" 
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> On the basis that they are endlessly allowed to import marriage partners
>>>from there 'home' countries, and that they tend to have 4 to5 children,each,
>>> AND that they are also allowed to import 4 wives each, you can see that it
>>> won't be too long before England becomes North Pakistan.
>> 
>> This is getting to be really interesting. Birmingham is projected to
>> become the first British city with a Muslim majority. It won't be the
>> last. either, and the UK will slowly but surely become a Muslim nation
>> and a part of Dar al-Islam.
>> 
>> Of course there are those, a lot of them, who say this doesn't matter
>> a jot since Islam is no different than Christianity or any other
>> religion and the UK is a nation of immigrants anyway. According to
>> this view, which is the predominant one at all political levels,
>> nothing will change since there was nothing uniquely identifiable and
>> worth preserving there that could be changed in the first place.
>> 
>> What a daft position to take. A really breathtaking blind stupidity.
>> It will be fun to see those Politically Correct dreamers get the shock
>> of their lives when Muslim values start to replace their own Western
>> Liberal values. 
>> 
>> But it will be too late to do anything about it by then. I wouldn't
>> like to be around while it is happening and I'm glad I jumped ship
>> years ago and am safely living abroad. 
>> 
>> I do find it fascinating in a macabre sort of way watching the UK
>> heading towards voluntary extinction and Islamification. But if that's
>> what you want, that's what you'll get, who am I to argue against it? 
>> 
>> Good luck, but I wouldn't change places with you.

>they will all have converted to christianity by then...what will 
>argument against them be then?

I doubt if British Muslims will be converting to Christianity in any
large numbers. Islam is the future. Inshallah.

Furthermore, I don't get your argument. It contains a fallacy. 

I was talking about emerging Muslim dominance. If, as you claim,
Muslims convert to Christianity, there will be no Muslims left for me
or anyone else to argue about. What you said is a non sequitur.

You seem to be a bit daft. Clarify what you are attempting to talk
about.

Svenne

Pellucid wrote:
> "Svenne"  wrote in message
> news:ks163491lbdicm9th1ctkn0uoevpiifvcj@4ax.com...
>> On Tue, 20 May 2008 17:46:56 +0100, "Pellucid" 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On the basis that they are endlessly allowed to import marriage partners
>> >from there 'home' countries, and that they tend to have 4 to5
> children,each,
>>> AND that they are also allowed to import 4 wives each, you can see that
> it
>>> won't be too long before England becomes North Pakistan.
>> This is getting to be really interesting. Birmingham is projected to
>> become the first British city with a Muslim majority. It won't be the
>> last. either, and the UK will slowly but surely become a Muslim nation
>> and a part of Dar al-Islam.
>>
>> Of course there are those, a lot of them, who say this doesn't matter
>> a jot since Islam is no different than Christianity or any other
>> religion and the UK is a nation of immigrants anyway. According to
>> this view, which is the predominant one at all political levels,
>> nothing will change since there was nothing uniquely identifiable and
>> worth preserving there that could be changed in the first place.
>>
>> What a daft position to take. A really breathtaking blind stupidity.
>> It will be fun to see those Politically Correct dreamers get the shock
>> of their lives when Muslim values start to replace their own Western
>> Liberal values.
>>
>> But it will be too late to do anything about it by then. I wouldn't
>> like to be around while it is happening and I'm glad I jumped ship
>> years ago and am safely living abroad.
>>
>> I do find it fascinating in a macabre sort of way watching the UK
>> heading towards voluntary extinction and Islamification. But if that's
>> what you want, that's what you'll get, who am I to argue against it?
>>
>> Good luck, but I wouldn't change places with you.
>>
>> Svenne
>>
> I think you are dead right Svenne, but, jumping ship used to be called
> 'Traitor!'
> -which means that you don't have a (peg leg) to stand on.
> .
> 
> 
what nonsense

On Tue, 20 May 2008 18:58:41 +0100, "Pellucid" 
wrote:

>"Svenne"  wrote in message
>news:ks163491lbdicm9th1ctkn0uoevpiifvcj@4ax.com...
>> On Tue, 20 May 2008 17:46:56 +0100, "Pellucid" 
>> wrote:
>>
>> >On the basis that they are endlessly allowed to import marriage partners
>> >from there 'home' countries, and that they tend to have 4 to5
>children,each,
>> >AND that they are also allowed to import 4 wives each, you can see that
>it
>> >won't be too long before England becomes North Pakistan.
>>
>> This is getting to be really interesting. Birmingham is projected to
>> become the first British city with a Muslim majority. It won't be the
>> last. either, and the UK will slowly but surely become a Muslim nation
>> and a part of Dar al-Islam.
>>
>> Of course there are those, a lot of them, who say this doesn't matter
>> a jot since Islam is no different than Christianity or any other
>> religion and the UK is a nation of immigrants anyway. According to
>> this view, which is the predominant one at all political levels,
>> nothing will change since there was nothing uniquely identifiable and
>> worth preserving there that could be changed in the first place.
>>
>> What a daft position to take. A really breathtaking blind stupidity.
>> It will be fun to see those Politically Correct dreamers get the shock
>> of their lives when Muslim values start to replace their own Western
>> Liberal values.
>>
>> But it will be too late to do anything about it by then. I wouldn't
>> like to be around while it is happening and I'm glad I jumped ship
>> years ago and am safely living abroad.
>>
>> I do find it fascinating in a macabre sort of way watching the UK
>> heading towards voluntary extinction and Islamification. But if that's
>> what you want, that's what you'll get, who am I to argue against it?
>>
>> Good luck, but I wouldn't change places with you.

>I think you are dead right Svenne, but, jumping ship used to be called
>'Traitor!'

Yes, I know. Jumping ship may be the cowards way out, but I see the
ship as being damaged below the water line and the captain and
officers not only refusing to do anything about it, but threatening
and demonising anyone who even tries to talk about it.

The UK I was born and grew up in no longer exists. You don't see the
difference if it creeps up on you slowly, you've got to have been away
for a decade or so and then go back to really see it. And the UK is
changing fast. The part of the northern industrial town I grew up in
is now more like a Pakistani slum than a Lancashire working class
area. Mosques and perambulating black tents with eye slits everywhere.

It's quite sad, really. Your future is Islam. I'm glad I moved abroad.

Svene

On Tue, 20 May 2008 19:20:25 +0100, KJ  wrote:

>Pellucid wrote:
>> "Svenne"  wrote in message
>> news:ks163491lbdicm9th1ctkn0uoevpiifvcj@4ax.com...
>>> On Tue, 20 May 2008 17:46:56 +0100, "Pellucid" 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On the basis that they are endlessly allowed to import marriage partners
>>> >from there 'home' countries, and that they tend to have 4 to5
>> children,each,
>>>> AND that they are also allowed to import 4 wives each, you can see that
>> it
>>>> won't be too long before England becomes North Pakistan.
>>> This is getting to be really interesting. Birmingham is projected to
>>> become the first British city with a Muslim majority. It won't be the
>>> last. either, and the UK will slowly but surely become a Muslim nation
>>> and a part of Dar al-Islam.
>>>
>>> Of course there are those, a lot of them, who say this doesn't matter
>>> a jot since Islam is no different than Christianity or any other
>>> religion and the UK is a nation of immigrants anyway. According to
>>> this view, which is the predominant one at all political levels,
>>> nothing will change since there was nothing uniquely identifiable and
>>> worth preserving there that could be changed in the first place.
>>>
>>> What a daft position to take. A really breathtaking blind stupidity.
>>> It will be fun to see those Politically Correct dreamers get the shock
>>> of their lives when Muslim values start to replace their own Western
>>> Liberal values.
>>>
>>> But it will be too late to do anything about it by then. I wouldn't
>>> like to be around while it is happening and I'm glad I jumped ship
>>> years ago and am safely living abroad.
>>>
>>> I do find it fascinating in a macabre sort of way watching the UK
>>> heading towards voluntary extinction and Islamification. But if that's
>>> what you want, that's what you'll get, who am I to argue against it?
>>>
>>> Good luck, but I wouldn't change places with you.
>>>
>>> Svenne
>>>
>> I think you are dead right Svenne, but, jumping ship used to be called
>> 'Traitor!'
>> -which means that you don't have a (peg leg) to stand on.

>what nonsense

There's the problem in a nutshell.

Have a nice future. I'm glad I won't be partaking of it.

Svenne

Svenne wrote:
> On Tue, 20 May 2008 18:58:41 +0100, "Pellucid" 
> wrote:
> 
>> "Svenne"  wrote in message
>> news:ks163491lbdicm9th1ctkn0uoevpiifvcj@4ax.com...
>>> On Tue, 20 May 2008 17:46:56 +0100, "Pellucid" 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On the basis that they are endlessly allowed to import marriage partners
>>> >from there 'home' countries, and that they tend to have 4 to5
>> children,each,
>>>> AND that they are also allowed to import 4 wives each, you can see that
>> it
>>>> won't be too long before England becomes North Pakistan.
>>> This is getting to be really interesting. Birmingham is projected to
>>> become the first British city with a Muslim majority. It won't be the
>>> last. either, and the UK will slowly but surely become a Muslim nation
>>> and a part of Dar al-Islam.
>>>
>>> Of course there are those, a lot of them, who say this doesn't matter
>>> a jot since Islam is no different than Christianity or any other
>>> religion and the UK is a nation of immigrants anyway. According to
>>> this view, which is the predominant one at all political levels,
>>> nothing will change since there was nothing uniquely identifiable and
>>> worth preserving there that could be changed in the first place.
>>>
>>> What a daft position to take. A really breathtaking blind stupidity.
>>> It will be fun to see those Politically Correct dreamers get the shock
>>> of their lives when Muslim values start to replace their own Western
>>> Liberal values.
>>>
>>> But it will be too late to do anything about it by then. I wouldn't
>>> like to be around while it is happening and I'm glad I jumped ship
>>> years ago and am safely living abroad.
>>>
>>> I do find it fascinating in a macabre sort of way watching the UK
>>> heading towards voluntary extinction and Islamification. But if that's
>>> what you want, that's what you'll get, who am I to argue against it?
>>>
>>> Good luck, but I wouldn't change places with you.
> 
>> I think you are dead right Svenne, but, jumping ship used to be called
>> 'Traitor!'
> 
> Yes, I know. Jumping ship may be the cowards way out, but I see the
> ship as being damaged below the water line and the captain and
> officers not only refusing to do anything about it, but threatening
> and demonising anyone who even tries to talk about it.
> 
> The UK I was born and grew up in no longer exists. You don't see the
> difference if it creeps up on you slowly, you've got to have been away
> for a decade or so and then go back to really see it. And the UK is
> changing fast. The part of the northern industrial town I grew up in
> is now more like a Pakistani slum than a Lancashire working class
> area. Mosques and perambulating black tents with eye slits everywhere.
> 
> It's quite sad, really. Your future is Islam. I'm glad I moved abroad.
> 
> Svene
us too.....good riddence

On Tue, 20 May 2008 20:59:35 +0100, KJ  wrote:

>Svenne wrote:

>> It's quite sad, really. Your future is Islam. I'm glad I moved abroad.

>us too.....good riddence

Schizo are you?

How many of you are in there?

Svenne

On 20 May, 11:40, Svenne  wrote:
> On Tue, 20 May 2008 19:20:25 +0100, KJ  wrote:
> >Pellucid wrote:
> >> "Svenne"  wrote in message
> >>news:ks163491lbdicm9th1ctkn0uoevpiifvcj@4ax.com...
> >>> On Tue, 20 May 2008 17:46:56 +0100, "Pellucid" 
> >>> wrote:
>
> >>>> On the basis that they are endlessly allowed to import marriage partners
> >>> >from there 'home' countries, and that they tend to have 4 to5
> >> children,each,
> >>>> AND that they are also allowed to import 4 wives each, you can see that
> >> it
> >>>> won't be too long before England becomes North Pakistan.
> >>> This is getting to be really interesting. Birmingham is projected to
> >>> become the first British city with a Muslim majority. It won't be the
> >>> last. either, and the UK will slowly but surely become a Muslim nation
> >>> and a part of Dar al-Islam.
>
> >>> Of course there are those, a lot of them, who say this doesn't matter
> >>> a jot since Islam is no different than Christianity or any other
> >>> religion and the UK is a nation of immigrants anyway. According to
> >>> this view, which is the predominant one at all political levels,
> >>> nothing will change since there was nothing uniquely identifiable and
> >>> worth preserving there that could be changed in the first place.
>
> >>> What a daft position to take. A really breathtaking blind stupidity.
> >>> It will be fun to see those Politically Correct dreamers get the shock
> >>> of their lives when Muslim values start to replace their own Western
> >>> Liberal values.
>
> >>> But it will be too late to do anything about it by then. I wouldn't
> >>> like to be around while it is happening and I'm glad I jumped ship
> >>> years ago and am safely living abroad.
>
> >>> I do find it fascinating in a macabre sort of way watching the UK
> >>> heading towards voluntary extinction and Islamification. But if that's
> >>> what you want, that's what you'll get, who am I to argue against it?
>
> >>> Good luck, but I wouldn't change places with you.
>
> >>> Svenne
>
> >> I think you are dead right Svenne, but, jumping ship used to be called
> >> 'Traitor!'
> >> -which means that you don't have a (peg leg) to stand on.
> >what nonsense
>
> There's the problem in a nutshell.
>
> Have a nice future. I'm glad I won't be partaking of it.
>
> Svenne- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

What Svenne is not factoring in is the astonishing change in the mood
recently. On immigration high taxes PC and all the things which Labour
has done to destroy Britain. Awareness of things and recognition of
the road we are travelling has become miainstream press after years of
toadying to Labour.

"Svenne"  wrote in message
news:ks163491lbdicm9th1ctkn0uoevpiifvcj@4ax.com...

> This is getting to be really interesting. Birmingham is projected to
> become the first British city with a Muslim majority.

Cite please.

-- 
William Black


I've seen things you people wouldn't believe.
Barbeques on fire by the chalets past the castle headland
I watched the gift shops glitter in the darkness off the Newborough gate
All these moments will be lost in time,  like icecream on the beach
Time for tea.

On May 20, 6:58 pm, "Pellucid"  wrote:
> "Svenne"  wrote in message

> > But it will be too late to do anything about it by then. I wouldn't
> > like to be around while it is happening and I'm glad I jumped ship
> > years ago and am safely living abroad.
>
> I think you are dead right Svenne, but, jumping ship used to be called
> 'Traitor!'

Sure - but if being called "traitor" by a brain-dead, spineless bunch
of zombies hell-bent on letting their society and culture be taken
over by everyone else is as bad as it gets, then fucking bring it on.
Rather like being savaged by a dead sheep, in fact.

On 20 May, 14:53, Andrew Thomas 
wrote:
> On May 20, 6:58 pm, "Pellucid"  wrote:
>
> > "Svenne"  wrote in message
> > > But it will be too late to do anything about it by then. I wouldn't
> > > like to be around while it is happening and I'm glad I jumped ship
> > > years ago and am safely living abroad.
>
> > I think you are dead right Svenne, but, jumping ship used to be called
> > 'Traitor!'
>
> Sure - but if being called "traitor" by a brain-dead, spineless bunch
> of zombies hell-bent on letting their society and culture be taken
> over by everyone else is as bad as it gets, then fucking bring it on.
> Rather like being savaged by a dead sheep, in fact.

I think a lot will return from Spain.The property binge is over.

On Tue, 20 May 2008 22:12:30 +0100, "William Black"
 wrote:

>
>"Svenne"  wrote in message
>news:ks163491lbdicm9th1ctkn0uoevpiifvcj@4ax.com...
>
>> This is getting to be really interesting. Birmingham is projected to
>> become the first British city with a Muslim majority.

>Cite please.

Sorry, my mistake. I wrote the above from memory and a quick check of
the facts shows that I was wrong.

It is not Birmingham but Leicester which is due to become the first
city in the UK in which the indiginous white population will become a
minority. Birmingham will be the second.

Demographers from Manchester University have shown that the white
population of Leicester will be a minority in about 12 years.
Birmingham will follow 5 years after that.

http://tinyurl.com/42bnnp

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/this-britain/leicester-to-be-first-city-where-white-people-are-minority-401968.html

Demographics show that the UK will become Muslim, part of Dar al
Islam, in the not too distant future.

I hope you enjoy it. 

Svenne

MikeinCamden@aol.com wrote:
> On 20 May, 14:53, Andrew Thomas 
> wrote:
>> On May 20, 6:58 pm, "Pellucid"  wrote:
>>
>>> "Svenne"  wrote in message
>>>> But it will be too late to do anything about it by then. I wouldn't
>>>> like to be around while it is happening and I'm glad I jumped ship
>>>> years ago and am safely living abroad.
>>> I think you are dead right Svenne, but, jumping ship used to be called
>>> 'Traitor!'
>> Sure - but if being called "traitor" by a brain-dead, spineless bunch
>> of zombies hell-bent on letting their society and culture be taken
>> over by everyone else is as bad as it gets, then fucking bring it on.
>> Rather like being savaged by a dead sheep, in fact.
> 
> I think a lot will return from Spain.The property binge is over.
The only traitors are those that promote hatred and fear over hope, who 
belittle their country with the inadequcies through their racism, who 
insult our heroes through their fascism

"KJ"  wrote in message


> The only traitors are those that promote hatred and fear over hope, who
> belittle their country with the inadequcies through their racism, who
> insult our heroes through their fascism

Thats no way to talk about socialists.

P.

Goat poking Mohammed fucked his nine-year-old daughter. 


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