http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/news/article-23399476-details/PC+brigade+ban+pin-ups+on+RAF+jets+-+in+case+they+offend+women+and+Muslims/article.do?ito=newsnow&

In killer heels and little else, they have a definite deadly charm.

But the risque images of women that have decorated warplanes since the
First World War have been scrubbed out.

The Ministry of Defence has decreed they could offend the RAF's female
personnel.

Officials admitted they had no record of any complaints from the 5,400
women in the RAF. 

But commanders are erring firmly on the side of caution and "nose
art", as it is known, has been consigned to the history books.

Harrier jump jet bombers currently launching daily airstrikes against
the Taliban in southern Afghanistan have been scrubbed clean to comply
with the orders.

Critics said the MoD should be focusing on more important issues -
such as the quality and quantity of equipment available to British
forces sent off to war.

Nose art first appeared on warplanes during the First World War and
enjoyed a golden age during the Second World War when thousands of
American fighters and bombers were decorated with pictures of
glamorous women. 

Military commanders tolerated the practice as a morale booster.

Famous examples include the Memphis Belle, a U.S. Army Air Force B-17
bomber that was the subject of a 1990 Hollywood movie.

Many RAF units picked up the practice from the Americans. 

During the Second World War it was common to see images of movie stars
including Rita Hayworth and Jane Russell on British bombers heading
for Germany.

Nose art enjoyed another surge in popularity during the 1991 and 2003
Gulf Wars, when risque images appeared on many British warplanes.

The decision to ban the images followed a visit by glamour models to
southern Afghanistan before Christmas. During the trip they signed
paintings of themselves on RAF aircraft. 

Commanders decided the images were sexist and insisted there was no
place for them in the modern armed forces.

There was also concern that they could cause offence in a muslim
country where until 2001 all women were forced to wear the head-to-toe
burkha in public.

Glamour model Lucy Pinder, 23, who visited the RAF detachment at
Kandahar last November and signed a painting of herself on a Harrier
jet, said such images were only "harmless fun". 

"It's very flattering and it's nice that they get to do something that
takes their minds off things for a while," she said from her home in
Winchester, Hampshire.

Conservative MP Phillip Davies said: "Has the MoD really got nothing
better to worry about at a time when there are serious concerns over
equipment and resources available to our forces in Iraq and
Afghanistan?" 

An RAF spokesman defended the decision to remove images which he said
"cut across" the service's culture of equal opportunities.

"If you have women flying aircraft and working on them as engineers
then these kinds of pictures are inappropriate," he said.

"That's why it's crossed the line and that's why they have been
removed."

Steve Greene wrote:
> Commanders decided the images were sexist and insisted there was no
> place for them in the modern armed forces.

Sounds like they've just had a new station commader posted out there, and 
he's keen to make a name for himself.
Seen it all too many times in the RAF. Nothing ever changes.

> There was also concern that they could cause offence in a muslim
> country where until 2001 all women were forced to wear the head-to-toe
> burkha in public.

Now what chance has a Muslim woman got of actually seeing the nose-art on a 
Harrier or Tornado as it screams past at max-chat?
Absolutely none.
Besides, it's just possible that they're going to be more offended by the 
bombs dropping from the underside of the planes, not by pictures painted on 
the side of it.

> "If you have women flying aircraft and working on them as engineers
> then these kinds of pictures are inappropriate," he said.

Women in the armed forces are extremely unlikely to be offended by this sort 
of thing.
Most of them, in an effort to fit in, become even more uncouth and bloke'ish 
than the blokes.
I would be deeply surprized if there's a single WAAF who's been offended by 
nose-cone art.
Members of the RAF are, on the whole, very aware of the forces heritage and 
history. Nose-cone art is a respected part of that heritage, and it's a real 
shame to see it go.

On Wed, 06 Jun 2007 19:50:34 GMT, "Fat Sam" 
wrote:

>Women in the armed forces are extremely unlikely to be offended by this sort 
>of thing.
>Most of them, in an effort to fit in, become even more uncouth and bloke'ish 
>than the blokes.

Utter bollocks.
-- 
JAF     anarchatntlworldfullstopcom
How many beans make five?

JAF wrote:
> On Wed, 06 Jun 2007 19:50:34 GMT, "Fat Sam" 
> wrote:
> 
>> Women in the armed forces are extremely unlikely to be offended by this sort 
>> of thing.
>> Most of them, in an effort to fit in, become even more uncouth and bloke'ish 
>> than the blokes.
> 
> Utter bollocks.

....she screamed, scratching her arse in fury.

-- 
Moving things in still pictures!

JAF wrote:
> On Wed, 06 Jun 2007 19:50:34 GMT, "Fat Sam"
>  wrote:
>
>> Women in the armed forces are extremely unlikely to be offended by
>> this sort of thing.
>> Most of them, in an effort to fit in, become even more uncouth and
>> bloke'ish than the blokes.
>
> Utter bollocks.

I base my statement on first hand experience.
Which Biggles book do you base yours on?

Anyone who scrawls pornography over the nose of a plane needs their head
examininig.

"Steve Greene" <stephen_greene@hotmail.com.invalid> wrote in message 
news:jnmd63pc5chfdhkl0l45e7k58qcgprj449@4ax.com...
> http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/news/article-23399476-details/PC+brigade+ban+pin-ups+on+RAF+jets+-+in+case+they+offend+women+and+Muslims/article.do?ito=newsnow&
>
> In killer heels and little else, they have a definite deadly charm.
>
> But the risque images of women that have decorated warplanes since the
> First World War have been scrubbed out.
>
> The Ministry of Defence has decreed they could offend the RAF's female
> personnel.
>
> Officials admitted they had no record of any complaints from the 5,400
> women in the RAF.
>
> But commanders are erring firmly on the side of caution and "nose
> art", as it is known, has been consigned to the history books.
>
> Harrier jump jet bombers currently launching daily airstrikes against
> the Taliban in southern Afghanistan have been scrubbed clean to comply
> with the orders.
>
> Critics said the MoD should be focusing on more important issues -
> such as the quality and quantity of equipment available to British
> forces sent off to war.
>
> Nose art first appeared on warplanes during the First World War and
> enjoyed a golden age during the Second World War when thousands of
> American fighters and bombers were decorated with pictures of
> glamorous women.
>
> Military commanders tolerated the practice as a morale booster.
>
> Famous examples include the Memphis Belle, a U.S. Army Air Force B-17
> bomber that was the subject of a 1990 Hollywood movie.
>
> Many RAF units picked up the practice from the Americans.
>
> During the Second World War it was common to see images of movie stars
> including Rita Hayworth and Jane Russell on British bombers heading
> for Germany.
>
> Nose art enjoyed another surge in popularity during the 1991 and 2003
> Gulf Wars, when risque images appeared on many British warplanes.
>
> The decision to ban the images followed a visit by glamour models to
> southern Afghanistan before Christmas. During the trip they signed
> paintings of themselves on RAF aircraft.
>
> Commanders decided the images were sexist and insisted there was no
> place for them in the modern armed forces.
>
> There was also concern that they could cause offence in a muslim
> country where until 2001 all women were forced to wear the head-to-toe
> burkha in public.
>
> Glamour model Lucy Pinder, 23, who visited the RAF detachment at
> Kandahar last November and signed a painting of herself on a Harrier
> jet, said such images were only "harmless fun".
>
> "It's very flattering and it's nice that they get to do something that
> takes their minds off things for a while," she said from her home in
> Winchester, Hampshire.
>
> Conservative MP Phillip Davies said: "Has the MoD really got nothing
> better to worry about at a time when there are serious concerns over
> equipment and resources available to our forces in Iraq and
> Afghanistan?"
>
> An RAF spokesman defended the decision to remove images which he said
> "cut across" the service's culture of equal opportunities.
>
> "If you have women flying aircraft and working on them as engineers
> then these kinds of pictures are inappropriate," he said.
>
> "That's why it's crossed the line and that's why they have been
> removed."

i am a radical muslim please read my blog, read how islam will win
the clash of civilization.

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"Kope"  wrote in message

>i am a radical muslim please read my blog, read how islam will win
> the clash of civilization.

Anyone else see 'Newsnight' last night?

"Kope"  wrote

>i am a radical muslim please read my blog, read how islam will win
> the clash of civilization.

Well, God hates radicals of any denomination.

Especially muslims. She told me.

God loves *complete* freaks like me, not the half baked variety that your 
piss-poor continent has managed to spawn.

I say 'half baked'; it's either that or completely over done. And picking up 
those bloody toes; Christ! Do you jam explosive into your pedal crevacies or 
does it grow there naturally????

Eh????? You fucking CUNT?

http://www.distaste.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/fc.html



Appology accepted.