http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=459310&in_page_id=1770

For almost 70 years, Scouts and Guides have savoured their place of
peaceful worship under the trees.

But no longer. The woodland chapel has been demolished - its wooden
pews and rudimentary cross and altar removed. In its place is a
campfire circle.

The change has been imposed by the Scout Association, which believes
the chapel excludes non-Christian Scouts. 

Locals are dismayed, but the association says it is simply "moving
forward".

The basic open-air structure in woodland surrounding Belchamps Scout
Centre in Hockley, Essex, was built between the wars by volunteers.

They used old telegraph poles for pews and built a basic altar and
cross. Visiting groups of Brownies, Guides,

Cubs and Scouts, have used it for generations. 

Weddings have been blessed there, ashes scattered and memorial trees
planted.

But in April, as the Scouting movement celebrated its centenary, it
was torn down.

Former Scout leaders are outraged. Keith Rooks-Cowell, 66, led Sunday
services in the outdoor chapel for more than 30 years.

The retired civil servant said: "Part of the Scout promise is to do
our duty to God. It's an important tradition.

"Scouting has got no objection to any religion or faith - you should
have faith, but it's not important which one.

"Anyone from any faith or any religion could go and use the chapel,
it's never been a problem. The chapel was already inclusive.

"It has been wrecked. All the posts and everything had been demolished
and laid flat. I was amazed and felt disgusted that this had been
done."

Wendy Wilson, a bank worker and Scout leader from South-end, held
religious services in the chapel for seven years. Her son Joshua, now
nine, was baptised there.

She said: "It's a really special place. We all make a promise to do
our duty to God, whatever God that may be.

"The chapel has never been an issue. If people didn't want to attend
services, it didn't matter and they could choose to have their own
ceremonies there. Nobody was made to feel excluded."

However, centre manager Nigel Ruse, 42, said: "The updating of the
chapel was done to turn it into a place of worship for all faiths and
not to exclude any one from Scouting.

"This is a case of taking Scouting-forward."

He said religious ceremonies could be held at the campfire circle.

But Mr Rooks-Cowell said: "A campfire is a place for sitting round
singing, telling jokes and stories. The chapel was used as a quiet
place for any leaders to go and sit and think. The two don't sit
comfortably together.

"The campfire is not the right place for worship. All religions
involves meditation and relaxation."

Last year, it was revealed that the Scout Association banned helpers
from putting suncream on children unless they already had sunburn.
This was to done to prevent allegations of child abuse.

"Steve Greene" <stephen_greene@hotmail.com.invalid> wrote in message 
news:3b4363hb2q8bt9e5aaut5j0vukva95r26r@4ax.com...
> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=459310&in_page_id=1770
>

Daily mail the rag for the terminally outraged.

I love Belchamps, I like Nigel but this is ridiculous.

I am not Christian, I found the chapel very welcoming and peaceful, but then 
there were politics at play last time I visited and I dare say there are 
now.

-- 
Stephen Rainsbury
District Explorer Scout Commissioner
Gillingham Kent
www.gillinghamscouts.org.uk

Stephen Rainsbury wrote:
> 
> "Steve Greene" <stephen_greene@hotmail.com.invalid> wrote in message
> news:3b4363hb2q8bt9e5aaut5j0vukva95r26r@4ax.com...
> > http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=459310&in_page_id=1770
> >
> 
> Daily mail the rag for the terminally outraged.
> 
> I love Belchamps, I like Nigel but this is ridiculous.
> 
> I am not Christian, I found the chapel very welcoming and peaceful, but then
> there were politics at play last time I visited and I dare say there are
> now.
> 

Neither am I religious, but find the whole idea ridiculous (or religidicoulous)
that such ancient structures should offend anyone. Some people are just nuts.
As simple as that.

"Steve Greene" <stephen_greene@hotmail.com.invalid> wrote in message 
news:3b4363hb2q8bt9e5aaut5j0vukva95r26r@4ax.com...
> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=459310&in_page_id=1770
>
> For almost 70 years, Scouts and Guides have savoured their place of
> peaceful worship under the trees.

I would read Andrew Thorpe's Comment (Quoted below), i believe he is 
something to do with HQ? Media officer?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=459310&in_page_id=1770&in_page_id=1770&expand=true#StartComments

I would like to take this opportunity to add some information that has not 
been included in this piece. The Scout Movement has always been multi faith 
since it was born 100 years ago. Indeed I can confirm that the old chapel 
had been used for multi faith services sometime. The chapel has simply been 
moved to an area that is more fit for purpose and all of the materials used 
in the old facility have been reused in the new one.

Scouting offers fun, challenge and adventure to people of all faiths and 
backgrounds. I can also confirm that there has been no change imposed by The 
Scout Association.

- Andrew Thorp, London

Knowlege is Powder wrote:
> "Steve Greene" <stephen_greene@hotmail.com.invalid> wrote in message 
> news:3b4363hb2q8bt9e5aaut5j0vukva95r26r@4ax.com...
>> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=459310&in_page_id=1770
>>
>> For almost 70 years, Scouts and Guides have savoured their place of
>> peaceful worship under the trees.
> 
> I would read Andrew Thorpe's Comment (Quoted below), i believe he is 
> something to do with HQ? Media officer?
> 
> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=459310&in_page_id=1770&in_page_id=1770&expand=true#StartComments
> 
> I would like to take this opportunity to add some information that has not 
> been included in this piece. The Scout Movement has always been multi faith 
> since it was born 100 years ago. Indeed I can confirm that the old chapel 
> had been used for multi faith services sometime. The chapel has simply been 
> moved to an area that is more fit for purpose and all of the materials used 
> in the old facility have been reused in the new one.
> 
> Scouting offers fun, challenge and adventure to people of all faiths and 
> backgrounds. I can also confirm that there has been no change imposed by The 
> Scout Association.
> 
> - Andrew Thorp, London
> 
> 
typical of the Daily Heil and the fascists that manipulate their mis-news

Steve Greene wrote:

> 
> Last year, it was revealed that the Scout Association banned helpers
> from putting suncream on children unless they already had sunburn.
> This was to done to prevent allegations of child abuse. 

Was it? Have they? Did it?

marc wrote:
> Steve Greene wrote:
> 
>>
>> Last year, it was revealed that the Scout Association banned helpers
>> from putting suncream on children unless they already had sunburn.
>> This was to done to prevent allegations of child abuse. 
> 
> Was it? Have they? Did it?
course not..the facsists can post all they want claiming the Daily Mail 
as its source...people can beleive anything of the Daily Mail

In message , johannes 
 writes
>
>Stephen Rainsbury wrote:
>>
>> Daily mail the rag for the terminally outraged.
>>
>> I love Belchamps, I like Nigel but this is ridiculous.
>>
>> I am not Christian, I found the chapel very welcoming and peaceful, but then
>> there were politics at play last time I visited and I dare say there are
>> now.
>
>Neither am I religious, but find the whole idea ridiculous (or religidicoulous)
>that such ancient structures should offend anyone. Some people are just nuts.
>As simple as that.

It is typical of many of the stories that appear in the press it is 
loosely based on fact but doesn't let the fact interfere with the story 
so that it becomes sensationalised to the point of fiction.  I suppose 
reporting the facts just wouldn't be so sensational and wouldn't give 
headlines that sell.
-- 
Paul Harris

Paul B wrote:
> On Sun, 03 Jun 2007 01:15:41 GMT, Stephen Rainsbury wrote:
> 
>> "marc"  wrote in message 
>> news:SdWdnSKcxbAxN_zbRVnyiQA@bt.com...
>>> Steve Greene wrote:
>>>
>>>> Last year, it was revealed that the Scout Association banned helpers
>>>> from putting suncream on children unless they already had sunburn.
> 
> Good. Scouting is riddled with child molesters.
> 
>>>> This was to done to prevent allegations of child abuse.
>>> Was it? Have they? Did it?
>> Bollocks they did.
> 
> Well they should considering that most Scout Leaders are homosexual
> paedophiles!

Perhaps you would be so kind as to justify these remarks with some
facts.

Bill

"marc"  wrote in message 
news:SdWdnSKcxbAxN_zbRVnyiQA@bt.com...
> Steve Greene wrote:
>
>>
>> Last year, it was revealed that the Scout Association banned helpers
>> from putting suncream on children unless they already had sunburn.
>> This was to done to prevent allegations of child abuse.
>
> Was it? Have they? Did it?

No but there were a couple of threads on it last year following an article 
in the Daily Mail.

Read all about it here:

http://groups.google.co.uk/group/uk.rec.scouting/browse_frm/thread/7688ee270293e3c6/d6b00ea1d24535cf?lnk=gst&q=suncream&rnum=1&hl=en#d6b00ea1d24535cf

Stephen

On Sat, 02 Jun 2007 16:48:54 +0100, Steve Greene
<stephen_greene@hotmail.com.invalid> wrote:

>http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=459310&in_page_id=1770
>
>For almost 70 years, Scouts and Guides have savoured their place of
>peaceful worship under the trees. 

SNIP

True or not I smell a Troll.

I've noticed over the years that when somone with fundamentalist or
racist views wants to foment discussion that they KNOW will draw
people to their thinking, they cross post items such as this.

My apologies to "Steve Green"  if I am wrong, but as far as I can see
it is a first time post, it is as far as I can see a reprint of an
article in a paper, and it carries no comment, no further input from
the OP.

The post smells as rotten as the subject itself.

Ewan Scott

On Sun, 03 Jun 2007 09:33:22 +0000, Ewan Scott 
wrote:

>My apologies to "Steve Green"  if I am wrong,

Don't apologise to him.
He's a cunt.
-- 
JAF     anarchatntlworldfullstopcom
How many beans make five?

Paul B wrote:

> 
> Well they should considering that most Scout Leaders are homosexual
> paedophiles!

Scout leaders, homosexuals, and Paedophiles?  I'm amazed they find the time!

Ewan Scott wrote:
> 
> On Sat, 02 Jun 2007 16:48:54 +0100, Steve Greene
> <stephen_greene@hotmail.com.invalid> wrote:
> 
> >http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=459310&in_page_id=1770
> >
> >For almost 70 years, Scouts and Guides have savoured their place of
> >peaceful worship under the trees.
> 
> SNIP
> 
> True or not I smell a Troll.
> 
> I've noticed over the years that when somone with fundamentalist or
> racist views wants to foment discussion that they KNOW will draw
> people to their thinking, they cross post items such as this.
> 
> My apologies to "Steve Green"  if I am wrong, but as far as I can see
> it is a first time post, it is as far as I can see a reprint of an
> article in a paper, and it carries no comment, no further input from
> the OP.
> 
> The post smells as rotten as the subject itself.

Quite true. What is the point of crossposting large cut n' paste which we
can read anyway on major sites? It is political spamming and abuse of usenet.

Paul B wrote:
> On Sun, 03 Jun 2007 01:15:41 GMT, Stephen Rainsbury wrote:
> 
>> "marc"  wrote in message 
>> news:SdWdnSKcxbAxN_zbRVnyiQA@bt.com...
>>> Steve Greene wrote:
>>>
>>>> Last year, it was revealed that the Scout Association banned helpers
>>>> from putting suncream on children unless they already had sunburn.
> 
> Good. Scouting is riddled with child molesters.
> 
>>>> This was to done to prevent allegations of child abuse.
>>> Was it? Have they? Did it?
>> Bollocks they did.
> 
> Well they should considering that most Scout Leaders are homosexual
> paedophiles!

Perhaps you would be so kind as to justify these remarks with some
facts.

Bill

"marc"  wrote in message 
news:SdWdnSKcxbAxN_zbRVnyiQA@bt.com...
> Steve Greene wrote:
>
>>
>> Last year, it was revealed that the Scout Association banned helpers
>> from putting suncream on children unless they already had sunburn.
>> This was to done to prevent allegations of child abuse.
>
> Was it? Have they? Did it?

No but there were a couple of threads on it last year following an article 
in the Daily Mail.

Read all about it here:

http://groups.google.co.uk/group/uk.rec.scouting/browse_frm/thread/7688ee270293e3c6/d6b00ea1d24535cf?lnk=gst&q=suncream&rnum=1&hl=en#d6b00ea1d24535cf

Stephen

On Sat, 02 Jun 2007 16:48:54 +0100, Steve Greene
<stephen_greene@hotmail.com.invalid> wrote:

>http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=459310&in_page_id=1770
>
>For almost 70 years, Scouts and Guides have savoured their place of
>peaceful worship under the trees. 

SNIP

True or not I smell a Troll.

I've noticed over the years that when somone with fundamentalist or
racist views wants to foment discussion that they KNOW will draw
people to their thinking, they cross post items such as this.

My apologies to "Steve Green"  if I am wrong, but as far as I can see
it is a first time post, it is as far as I can see a reprint of an
article in a paper, and it carries no comment, no further input from
the OP.

The post smells as rotten as the subject itself.

Ewan Scott

On Sun, 03 Jun 2007 09:33:22 +0000, Ewan Scott 
wrote:

>My apologies to "Steve Green"  if I am wrong,

Don't apologise to him.
He's a cunt.
-- 
JAF     anarchatntlworldfullstopcom
How many beans make five?

Paul B wrote:

> 
> Well they should considering that most Scout Leaders are homosexual
> paedophiles!

Scout leaders, homosexuals, and Paedophiles?  I'm amazed they find the time!

Ewan Scott wrote:
> 
> On Sat, 02 Jun 2007 16:48:54 +0100, Steve Greene
> <stephen_greene@hotmail.com.invalid> wrote:
> 
> >http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=459310&in_page_id=1770
> >
> >For almost 70 years, Scouts and Guides have savoured their place of
> >peaceful worship under the trees.
> 
> SNIP
> 
> True or not I smell a Troll.
> 
> I've noticed over the years that when somone with fundamentalist or
> racist views wants to foment discussion that they KNOW will draw
> people to their thinking, they cross post items such as this.
> 
> My apologies to "Steve Green"  if I am wrong, but as far as I can see
> it is a first time post, it is as far as I can see a reprint of an
> article in a paper, and it carries no comment, no further input from
> the OP.
> 
> The post smells as rotten as the subject itself.

Quite true. What is the point of crossposting large cut n' paste which we
can read anyway on major sites? It is political spamming and abuse of usenet.

"Gooders"  wrote in message 
news:f3tts9$6bh$1@news.freedom2surf.net...

> No but there were a couple of threads on it last year following an article 
> in the Daily Mail.

Ahh there we go, the Daily Mail,  need I say more.

Staunchly defending their right to misinterpret the facts in the name of a 
good story that is guaranteed to get self righteous middle England 
harrumphing in their cardigans...

The best use for the daily mail is lining a Rabbit hutch

-- 
Stephen Rainsbury
District Explorer Scout Commissioner
Gillingham Kent
www.gillinghamscouts.org.uk

"Ewan Scott"  wrote in message 
news:dg25639urrl6a18ed70q6alle5penfittm@4ax.com...
> On Sat, 02 Jun 2007 16:48:54 +0100, Steve Greene

> The post smells as rotten as the subject itself.
>

I hate to admit it but 'er indoors read the daily mail and she pointed the 
article out to me first.  Again taking the middle England view even though 
she has camped at the bloody site!!!


-- 
Stephen Rainsbury
District Explorer Scout Commissioner
Gillingham Kent
www.gillinghamscouts.org.uk

OK I am going to block this thread

Paul Harris wrote:
> 
> In message , johannes
>  writes
> >
> >Stephen Rainsbury wrote:
> >>
> >> Daily mail the rag for the terminally outraged.
> >>
> >> I love Belchamps, I like Nigel but this is ridiculous.
> >>
> >> I am not Christian, I found the chapel very welcoming and peaceful, but then
> >> there were politics at play last time I visited and I dare say there are
> >> now.
> >
> >Neither am I religious, but find the whole idea ridiculous (or religidicoulous)
> >that such ancient structures should offend anyone. Some people are just nuts.
> >As simple as that.
> 
> It is typical of many of the stories that appear in the press it is
> loosely based on fact but doesn't let the fact interfere with the story
> so that it becomes sensationalised to the point of fiction.  I suppose
> reporting the facts just wouldn't be so sensational and wouldn't give
> headlines that sell.
> --
> Paul Harris

Well yes, I could imagine that they wanted to clear out the space for
entirely other reasons. Perhaps it was never meant or build to be permanent.

Paul B wrote:
> On Sun, 03 Jun 2007 01:15:41 GMT, Stephen Rainsbury wrote:
> 
>> "marc"  wrote in message 
>> news:SdWdnSKcxbAxN_zbRVnyiQA@bt.com...
>>> Steve Greene wrote:
>>>
>>>> Last year, it was revealed that the Scout Association banned helpers
>>>> from putting suncream on children unless they already had sunburn.
> 
> Good. Scouting is riddled with child molesters.
> 
>>>> This was to done to prevent allegations of child abuse.
>>> Was it? Have they? Did it?
>> Bollocks they did.
> 
> Well they should considering that most Scout Leaders are homosexual
> paedophiles!

Perhaps you would be so kind as to justify these remarks with some
facts.

Bill

"marc"  wrote in message 
news:SdWdnSKcxbAxN_zbRVnyiQA@bt.com...
> Steve Greene wrote:
>
>>
>> Last year, it was revealed that the Scout Association banned helpers
>> from putting suncream on children unless they already had sunburn.
>> This was to done to prevent allegations of child abuse.
>
> Was it? Have they? Did it?

No but there were a couple of threads on it last year following an article 
in the Daily Mail.

Read all about it here:

http://groups.google.co.uk/group/uk.rec.scouting/browse_frm/thread/7688ee270293e3c6/d6b00ea1d24535cf?lnk=gst&q=suncream&rnum=1&hl=en#d6b00ea1d24535cf

Stephen

On Sat, 02 Jun 2007 16:48:54 +0100, Steve Greene
<stephen_greene@hotmail.com.invalid> wrote:

>http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=459310&in_page_id=1770
>
>For almost 70 years, Scouts and Guides have savoured their place of
>peaceful worship under the trees. 

SNIP

True or not I smell a Troll.

I've noticed over the years that when somone with fundamentalist or
racist views wants to foment discussion that they KNOW will draw
people to their thinking, they cross post items such as this.

My apologies to "Steve Green"  if I am wrong, but as far as I can see
it is a first time post, it is as far as I can see a reprint of an
article in a paper, and it carries no comment, no further input from
the OP.

The post smells as rotten as the subject itself.

Ewan Scott

On Sun, 03 Jun 2007 09:33:22 +0000, Ewan Scott 
wrote:

>My apologies to "Steve Green"  if I am wrong,

Don't apologise to him.
He's a cunt.
-- 
JAF     anarchatntlworldfullstopcom
How many beans make five?

Paul B wrote:

> 
> Well they should considering that most Scout Leaders are homosexual
> paedophiles!

Scout leaders, homosexuals, and Paedophiles?  I'm amazed they find the time!

Ewan Scott wrote:
> 
> On Sat, 02 Jun 2007 16:48:54 +0100, Steve Greene
> <stephen_greene@hotmail.com.invalid> wrote:
> 
> >http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=459310&in_page_id=1770
> >
> >For almost 70 years, Scouts and Guides have savoured their place of
> >peaceful worship under the trees.
> 
> SNIP
> 
> True or not I smell a Troll.
> 
> I've noticed over the years that when somone with fundamentalist or
> racist views wants to foment discussion that they KNOW will draw
> people to their thinking, they cross post items such as this.
> 
> My apologies to "Steve Green"  if I am wrong, but as far as I can see
> it is a first time post, it is as far as I can see a reprint of an
> article in a paper, and it carries no comment, no further input from
> the OP.
> 
> The post smells as rotten as the subject itself.

Quite true. What is the point of crossposting large cut n' paste which we
can read anyway on major sites? It is political spamming and abuse of usenet.

"Gooders"  wrote in message 
news:f3tts9$6bh$1@news.freedom2surf.net...

> No but there were a couple of threads on it last year following an article 
> in the Daily Mail.

Ahh there we go, the Daily Mail,  need I say more.

Staunchly defending their right to misinterpret the facts in the name of a 
good story that is guaranteed to get self righteous middle England 
harrumphing in their cardigans...

The best use for the daily mail is lining a Rabbit hutch

-- 
Stephen Rainsbury
District Explorer Scout Commissioner
Gillingham Kent
www.gillinghamscouts.org.uk

"Ewan Scott"  wrote in message 
news:dg25639urrl6a18ed70q6alle5penfittm@4ax.com...
> On Sat, 02 Jun 2007 16:48:54 +0100, Steve Greene

> The post smells as rotten as the subject itself.
>

I hate to admit it but 'er indoors read the daily mail and she pointed the 
article out to me first.  Again taking the middle England view even though 
she has camped at the bloody site!!!


-- 
Stephen Rainsbury
District Explorer Scout Commissioner
Gillingham Kent
www.gillinghamscouts.org.uk

OK I am going to block this thread

Paul Harris wrote:
> 
> In message , johannes
>  writes
> >
> >Stephen Rainsbury wrote:
> >>
> >> Daily mail the rag for the terminally outraged.
> >>
> >> I love Belchamps, I like Nigel but this is ridiculous.
> >>
> >> I am not Christian, I found the chapel very welcoming and peaceful, but then
> >> there were politics at play last time I visited and I dare say there are
> >> now.
> >
> >Neither am I religious, but find the whole idea ridiculous (or religidicoulous)
> >that such ancient structures should offend anyone. Some people are just nuts.
> >As simple as that.
> 
> It is typical of many of the stories that appear in the press it is
> loosely based on fact but doesn't let the fact interfere with the story
> so that it becomes sensationalised to the point of fiction.  I suppose
> reporting the facts just wouldn't be so sensational and wouldn't give
> headlines that sell.
> --
> Paul Harris

Well yes, I could imagine that they wanted to clear out the space for
entirely other reasons. Perhaps it was never meant or build to be permanent.

Bill Oldroyd  posted
>Paul B wrote:
>> 
>> Well they should considering that most Scout Leaders are homosexual
>> paedophiles!
>
>Perhaps you would be so kind as to justify these remarks with some
>facts.

It is a well-known fact. The rate of paedophilia among the general male
population is 110%. Among scoutmasters it is at least 173%. This has
been scientifically proved in at least 31 NSPCC papers that no-one has
ever seriously disputed. 

-- 
PeteM

-- 
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com

Paul B wrote:
> On Sun, 03 Jun 2007 01:15:41 GMT, Stephen Rainsbury wrote:
> 
>> "marc"  wrote in message 
>> news:SdWdnSKcxbAxN_zbRVnyiQA@bt.com...
>>> Steve Greene wrote:
>>>
>>>> Last year, it was revealed that the Scout Association banned helpers
>>>> from putting suncream on children unless they already had sunburn.
> 
> Good. Scouting is riddled with child molesters.
> 
>>>> This was to done to prevent allegations of child abuse.
>>> Was it? Have they? Did it?
>> Bollocks they did.
> 
> Well they should considering that most Scout Leaders are homosexual
> paedophiles!

Perhaps you would be so kind as to justify these remarks with some
facts.

Bill

"marc"  wrote in message 
news:SdWdnSKcxbAxN_zbRVnyiQA@bt.com...
> Steve Greene wrote:
>
>>
>> Last year, it was revealed that the Scout Association banned helpers
>> from putting suncream on children unless they already had sunburn.
>> This was to done to prevent allegations of child abuse.
>
> Was it? Have they? Did it?

No but there were a couple of threads on it last year following an article 
in the Daily Mail.

Read all about it here:

http://groups.google.co.uk/group/uk.rec.scouting/browse_frm/thread/7688ee270293e3c6/d6b00ea1d24535cf?lnk=gst&q=suncream&rnum=1&hl=en#d6b00ea1d24535cf

Stephen

On Sat, 02 Jun 2007 16:48:54 +0100, Steve Greene
<stephen_greene@hotmail.com.invalid> wrote:

>http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=459310&in_page_id=1770
>
>For almost 70 years, Scouts and Guides have savoured their place of
>peaceful worship under the trees. 

SNIP

True or not I smell a Troll.

I've noticed over the years that when somone with fundamentalist or
racist views wants to foment discussion that they KNOW will draw
people to their thinking, they cross post items such as this.

My apologies to "Steve Green"  if I am wrong, but as far as I can see
it is a first time post, it is as far as I can see a reprint of an
article in a paper, and it carries no comment, no further input from
the OP.

The post smells as rotten as the subject itself.

Ewan Scott

On Sun, 03 Jun 2007 09:33:22 +0000, Ewan Scott 
wrote:

>My apologies to "Steve Green"  if I am wrong,

Don't apologise to him.
He's a cunt.
-- 
JAF     anarchatntlworldfullstopcom
How many beans make five?

Paul B wrote:

> 
> Well they should considering that most Scout Leaders are homosexual
> paedophiles!

Scout leaders, homosexuals, and Paedophiles?  I'm amazed they find the time!

Ewan Scott wrote:
> 
> On Sat, 02 Jun 2007 16:48:54 +0100, Steve Greene
> <stephen_greene@hotmail.com.invalid> wrote:
> 
> >http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=459310&in_page_id=1770
> >
> >For almost 70 years, Scouts and Guides have savoured their place of
> >peaceful worship under the trees.
> 
> SNIP
> 
> True or not I smell a Troll.
> 
> I've noticed over the years that when somone with fundamentalist or
> racist views wants to foment discussion that they KNOW will draw
> people to their thinking, they cross post items such as this.
> 
> My apologies to "Steve Green"  if I am wrong, but as far as I can see
> it is a first time post, it is as far as I can see a reprint of an
> article in a paper, and it carries no comment, no further input from
> the OP.
> 
> The post smells as rotten as the subject itself.

Quite true. What is the point of crossposting large cut n' paste which we
can read anyway on major sites? It is political spamming and abuse of usenet.

"Gooders"  wrote in message 
news:f3tts9$6bh$1@news.freedom2surf.net...

> No but there were a couple of threads on it last year following an article 
> in the Daily Mail.

Ahh there we go, the Daily Mail,  need I say more.

Staunchly defending their right to misinterpret the facts in the name of a 
good story that is guaranteed to get self righteous middle England 
harrumphing in their cardigans...

The best use for the daily mail is lining a Rabbit hutch

-- 
Stephen Rainsbury
District Explorer Scout Commissioner
Gillingham Kent
www.gillinghamscouts.org.uk

"Ewan Scott"  wrote in message 
news:dg25639urrl6a18ed70q6alle5penfittm@4ax.com...
> On Sat, 02 Jun 2007 16:48:54 +0100, Steve Greene

> The post smells as rotten as the subject itself.
>

I hate to admit it but 'er indoors read the daily mail and she pointed the 
article out to me first.  Again taking the middle England view even though 
she has camped at the bloody site!!!


-- 
Stephen Rainsbury
District Explorer Scout Commissioner
Gillingham Kent
www.gillinghamscouts.org.uk

OK I am going to block this thread

Paul Harris wrote:
> 
> In message , johannes
>  writes
> >
> >Stephen Rainsbury wrote:
> >>
> >> Daily mail the rag for the terminally outraged.
> >>
> >> I love Belchamps, I like Nigel but this is ridiculous.
> >>
> >> I am not Christian, I found the chapel very welcoming and peaceful, but then
> >> there were politics at play last time I visited and I dare say there are
> >> now.
> >
> >Neither am I religious, but find the whole idea ridiculous (or religidicoulous)
> >that such ancient structures should offend anyone. Some people are just nuts.
> >As simple as that.
> 
> It is typical of many of the stories that appear in the press it is
> loosely based on fact but doesn't let the fact interfere with the story
> so that it becomes sensationalised to the point of fiction.  I suppose
> reporting the facts just wouldn't be so sensational and wouldn't give
> headlines that sell.
> --
> Paul Harris

Well yes, I could imagine that they wanted to clear out the space for
entirely other reasons. Perhaps it was never meant or build to be permanent.

Bill Oldroyd  posted
>Paul B wrote:
>> 
>> Well they should considering that most Scout Leaders are homosexual
>> paedophiles!
>
>Perhaps you would be so kind as to justify these remarks with some
>facts.

It is a well-known fact. The rate of paedophilia among the general male
population is 110%. Among scoutmasters it is at least 173%. This has
been scientifically proved in at least 31 NSPCC papers that no-one has
ever seriously disputed. 

-- 
PeteM

-- 
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PeteM wrote:
> Bill Oldroyd  posted
>> Paul B wrote:
>>> Well they should considering that most Scout Leaders are homosexual
>>> paedophiles!
>> Perhaps you would be so kind as to justify these remarks with some
>> facts.
> 
> It is a well-known fact. The rate of paedophilia among the general male
> population is 110%. Among scoutmasters it is at least 173%. This has
> been scientifically proved in at least 31 NSPCC papers that no-one has
> ever seriously disputed. 
> 
You are just making it up.

Bill

"Bill Oldroyd"  wrote in message 
news:lNidnREuhskvKv7bRVnyjwA@pipex.net...
> PeteM wrote:
>> Bill Oldroyd  posted
>>> Paul B wrote:
>>>> Well they should considering that most Scout Leaders are homosexual
>>>> paedophiles!
>>> Perhaps you would be so kind as to justify these remarks with some
>>> facts.
>>
>> It is a well-known fact. The rate of paedophilia among the general male
>> population is 110%. Among scoutmasters it is at least 173%. This has
>> been scientifically proved in at least 31 NSPCC papers that no-one has
>> ever seriously disputed.
>>
> You are just making it up.

Gee - you think?

;)

Paul B wrote:
> On Sun, 03 Jun 2007 01:15:41 GMT, Stephen Rainsbury wrote:
> 
>> "marc"  wrote in message 
>> news:SdWdnSKcxbAxN_zbRVnyiQA@bt.com...
>>> Steve Greene wrote:
>>>
>>>> Last year, it was revealed that the Scout Association banned helpers
>>>> from putting suncream on children unless they already had sunburn.
> 
> Good. Scouting is riddled with child molesters.
> 
>>>> This was to done to prevent allegations of child abuse.
>>> Was it? Have they? Did it?
>> Bollocks they did.
> 
> Well they should considering that most Scout Leaders are homosexual
> paedophiles!

Perhaps you would be so kind as to justify these remarks with some
facts.

Bill

"marc"  wrote in message 
news:SdWdnSKcxbAxN_zbRVnyiQA@bt.com...
> Steve Greene wrote:
>
>>
>> Last year, it was revealed that the Scout Association banned helpers
>> from putting suncream on children unless they already had sunburn.
>> This was to done to prevent allegations of child abuse.
>
> Was it? Have they? Did it?

No but there were a couple of threads on it last year following an article 
in the Daily Mail.

Read all about it here:

http://groups.google.co.uk/group/uk.rec.scouting/browse_frm/thread/7688ee270293e3c6/d6b00ea1d24535cf?lnk=gst&q=suncream&rnum=1&hl=en#d6b00ea1d24535cf

Stephen

On Sat, 02 Jun 2007 16:48:54 +0100, Steve Greene
<stephen_greene@hotmail.com.invalid> wrote:

>http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=459310&in_page_id=1770
>
>For almost 70 years, Scouts and Guides have savoured their place of
>peaceful worship under the trees. 

SNIP

True or not I smell a Troll.

I've noticed over the years that when somone with fundamentalist or
racist views wants to foment discussion that they KNOW will draw
people to their thinking, they cross post items such as this.

My apologies to "Steve Green"  if I am wrong, but as far as I can see
it is a first time post, it is as far as I can see a reprint of an
article in a paper, and it carries no comment, no further input from
the OP.

The post smells as rotten as the subject itself.

Ewan Scott

On Sun, 03 Jun 2007 09:33:22 +0000, Ewan Scott 
wrote:

>My apologies to "Steve Green"  if I am wrong,

Don't apologise to him.
He's a cunt.
-- 
JAF     anarchatntlworldfullstopcom
How many beans make five?

Paul B wrote:

> 
> Well they should considering that most Scout Leaders are homosexual
> paedophiles!

Scout leaders, homosexuals, and Paedophiles?  I'm amazed they find the time!

Ewan Scott wrote:
> 
> On Sat, 02 Jun 2007 16:48:54 +0100, Steve Greene
> <stephen_greene@hotmail.com.invalid> wrote:
> 
> >http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=459310&in_page_id=1770
> >
> >For almost 70 years, Scouts and Guides have savoured their place of
> >peaceful worship under the trees.
> 
> SNIP
> 
> True or not I smell a Troll.
> 
> I've noticed over the years that when somone with fundamentalist or
> racist views wants to foment discussion that they KNOW will draw
> people to their thinking, they cross post items such as this.
> 
> My apologies to "Steve Green"  if I am wrong, but as far as I can see
> it is a first time post, it is as far as I can see a reprint of an
> article in a paper, and it carries no comment, no further input from
> the OP.
> 
> The post smells as rotten as the subject itself.

Quite true. What is the point of crossposting large cut n' paste which we
can read anyway on major sites? It is political spamming and abuse of usenet.

"Gooders"  wrote in message 
news:f3tts9$6bh$1@news.freedom2surf.net...

> No but there were a couple of threads on it last year following an article 
> in the Daily Mail.

Ahh there we go, the Daily Mail,  need I say more.

Staunchly defending their right to misinterpret the facts in the name of a 
good story that is guaranteed to get self righteous middle England 
harrumphing in their cardigans...

The best use for the daily mail is lining a Rabbit hutch

-- 
Stephen Rainsbury
District Explorer Scout Commissioner
Gillingham Kent
www.gillinghamscouts.org.uk

"Ewan Scott"  wrote in message 
news:dg25639urrl6a18ed70q6alle5penfittm@4ax.com...
> On Sat, 02 Jun 2007 16:48:54 +0100, Steve Greene

> The post smells as rotten as the subject itself.
>

I hate to admit it but 'er indoors read the daily mail and she pointed the 
article out to me first.  Again taking the middle England view even though 
she has camped at the bloody site!!!


-- 
Stephen Rainsbury
District Explorer Scout Commissioner
Gillingham Kent
www.gillinghamscouts.org.uk

OK I am going to block this thread

Paul Harris wrote:
> 
> In message , johannes
>  writes
> >
> >Stephen Rainsbury wrote:
> >>
> >> Daily mail the rag for the terminally outraged.
> >>
> >> I love Belchamps, I like Nigel but this is ridiculous.
> >>
> >> I am not Christian, I found the chapel very welcoming and peaceful, but then
> >> there were politics at play last time I visited and I dare say there are
> >> now.
> >
> >Neither am I religious, but find the whole idea ridiculous (or religidicoulous)
> >that such ancient structures should offend anyone. Some people are just nuts.
> >As simple as that.
> 
> It is typical of many of the stories that appear in the press it is
> loosely based on fact but doesn't let the fact interfere with the story
> so that it becomes sensationalised to the point of fiction.  I suppose
> reporting the facts just wouldn't be so sensational and wouldn't give
> headlines that sell.
> --
> Paul Harris

Well yes, I could imagine that they wanted to clear out the space for
entirely other reasons. Perhaps it was never meant or build to be permanent.

Bill Oldroyd  posted
>Paul B wrote:
>> 
>> Well they should considering that most Scout Leaders are homosexual
>> paedophiles!
>
>Perhaps you would be so kind as to justify these remarks with some
>facts.

It is a well-known fact. The rate of paedophilia among the general male
population is 110%. Among scoutmasters it is at least 173%. This has
been scientifically proved in at least 31 NSPCC papers that no-one has
ever seriously disputed. 

-- 
PeteM

-- 
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PeteM wrote:
> Bill Oldroyd  posted
>> Paul B wrote:
>>> Well they should considering that most Scout Leaders are homosexual
>>> paedophiles!
>> Perhaps you would be so kind as to justify these remarks with some
>> facts.
> 
> It is a well-known fact. The rate of paedophilia among the general male
> population is 110%. Among scoutmasters it is at least 173%. This has
> been scientifically proved in at least 31 NSPCC papers that no-one has
> ever seriously disputed. 
> 
You are just making it up.

Bill

"Bill Oldroyd"  wrote in message 
news:lNidnREuhskvKv7bRVnyjwA@pipex.net...
> PeteM wrote:
>> Bill Oldroyd  posted
>>> Paul B wrote:
>>>> Well they should considering that most Scout Leaders are homosexual
>>>> paedophiles!
>>> Perhaps you would be so kind as to justify these remarks with some
>>> facts.
>>
>> It is a well-known fact. The rate of paedophilia among the general male
>> population is 110%. Among scoutmasters it is at least 173%. This has
>> been scientifically proved in at least 31 NSPCC papers that no-one has
>> ever seriously disputed.
>>
> You are just making it up.

Gee - you think?

;)

On Mon, 04 Jun 2007 07:56:48 +0100, Bill Oldroyd
 wrote:

>PeteM wrote:
>> Bill Oldroyd  posted
>>> Paul B wrote:
>>>> Well they should considering that most Scout Leaders are homosexual
>>>> paedophiles!
>>> Perhaps you would be so kind as to justify these remarks with some
>>> facts.
>> 
>> It is a well-known fact. The rate of paedophilia among the general male
>> population is 110%. Among scoutmasters it is at least 173%. This has
>> been scientifically proved in at least 31 NSPCC papers that no-one has
>> ever seriously disputed. 
>> 
>You are just making it up.
>
It was in the News of the world so it must be true

Paul B wrote:
> On Sun, 03 Jun 2007 01:15:41 GMT, Stephen Rainsbury wrote:
> 
>> "marc"  wrote in message 
>> news:SdWdnSKcxbAxN_zbRVnyiQA@bt.com...
>>> Steve Greene wrote:
>>>
>>>> Last year, it was revealed that the Scout Association banned helpers
>>>> from putting suncream on children unless they already had sunburn.
> 
> Good. Scouting is riddled with child molesters.
> 
>>>> This was to done to prevent allegations of child abuse.
>>> Was it? Have they? Did it?
>> Bollocks they did.
> 
> Well they should considering that most Scout Leaders are homosexual
> paedophiles!

Perhaps you would be so kind as to justify these remarks with some
facts.

Bill

"marc"  wrote in message 
news:SdWdnSKcxbAxN_zbRVnyiQA@bt.com...
> Steve Greene wrote:
>
>>
>> Last year, it was revealed that the Scout Association banned helpers
>> from putting suncream on children unless they already had sunburn.
>> This was to done to prevent allegations of child abuse.
>
> Was it? Have they? Did it?

No but there were a couple of threads on it last year following an article 
in the Daily Mail.

Read all about it here:

http://groups.google.co.uk/group/uk.rec.scouting/browse_frm/thread/7688ee270293e3c6/d6b00ea1d24535cf?lnk=gst&q=suncream&rnum=1&hl=en#d6b00ea1d24535cf

Stephen

On Sat, 02 Jun 2007 16:48:54 +0100, Steve Greene
<stephen_greene@hotmail.com.invalid> wrote:

>http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=459310&in_page_id=1770
>
>For almost 70 years, Scouts and Guides have savoured their place of
>peaceful worship under the trees. 

SNIP

True or not I smell a Troll.

I've noticed over the years that when somone with fundamentalist or
racist views wants to foment discussion that they KNOW will draw
people to their thinking, they cross post items such as this.

My apologies to "Steve Green"  if I am wrong, but as far as I can see
it is a first time post, it is as far as I can see a reprint of an
article in a paper, and it carries no comment, no further input from
the OP.

The post smells as rotten as the subject itself.

Ewan Scott

On Sun, 03 Jun 2007 09:33:22 +0000, Ewan Scott 
wrote:

>My apologies to "Steve Green"  if I am wrong,

Don't apologise to him.
He's a cunt.
-- 
JAF     anarchatntlworldfullstopcom
How many beans make five?

Paul B wrote:

> 
> Well they should considering that most Scout Leaders are homosexual
> paedophiles!

Scout leaders, homosexuals, and Paedophiles?  I'm amazed they find the time!

Ewan Scott wrote:
> 
> On Sat, 02 Jun 2007 16:48:54 +0100, Steve Greene
> <stephen_greene@hotmail.com.invalid> wrote:
> 
> >http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=459310&in_page_id=1770
> >
> >For almost 70 years, Scouts and Guides have savoured their place of
> >peaceful worship under the trees.
> 
> SNIP
> 
> True or not I smell a Troll.
> 
> I've noticed over the years that when somone with fundamentalist or
> racist views wants to foment discussion that they KNOW will draw
> people to their thinking, they cross post items such as this.
> 
> My apologies to "Steve Green"  if I am wrong, but as far as I can see
> it is a first time post, it is as far as I can see a reprint of an
> article in a paper, and it carries no comment, no further input from
> the OP.
> 
> The post smells as rotten as the subject itself.

Quite true. What is the point of crossposting large cut n' paste which we
can read anyway on major sites? It is political spamming and abuse of usenet.

"Gooders"  wrote in message 
news:f3tts9$6bh$1@news.freedom2surf.net...

> No but there were a couple of threads on it last year following an article 
> in the Daily Mail.

Ahh there we go, the Daily Mail,  need I say more.

Staunchly defending their right to misinterpret the facts in the name of a 
good story that is guaranteed to get self righteous middle England 
harrumphing in their cardigans...

The best use for the daily mail is lining a Rabbit hutch

-- 
Stephen Rainsbury
District Explorer Scout Commissioner
Gillingham Kent
www.gillinghamscouts.org.uk

"Ewan Scott"  wrote in message 
news:dg25639urrl6a18ed70q6alle5penfittm@4ax.com...
> On Sat, 02 Jun 2007 16:48:54 +0100, Steve Greene

> The post smells as rotten as the subject itself.
>

I hate to admit it but 'er indoors read the daily mail and she pointed the 
article out to me first.  Again taking the middle England view even though 
she has camped at the bloody site!!!


-- 
Stephen Rainsbury
District Explorer Scout Commissioner
Gillingham Kent
www.gillinghamscouts.org.uk

OK I am going to block this thread

Paul Harris wrote:
> 
> In message , johannes
>  writes
> >
> >Stephen Rainsbury wrote:
> >>
> >> Daily mail the rag for the terminally outraged.
> >>
> >> I love Belchamps, I like Nigel but this is ridiculous.
> >>
> >> I am not Christian, I found the chapel very welcoming and peaceful, but then
> >> there were politics at play last time I visited and I dare say there are
> >> now.
> >
> >Neither am I religious, but find the whole idea ridiculous (or religidicoulous)
> >that such ancient structures should offend anyone. Some people are just nuts.
> >As simple as that.
> 
> It is typical of many of the stories that appear in the press it is
> loosely based on fact but doesn't let the fact interfere with the story
> so that it becomes sensationalised to the point of fiction.  I suppose
> reporting the facts just wouldn't be so sensational and wouldn't give
> headlines that sell.
> --
> Paul Harris

Well yes, I could imagine that they wanted to clear out the space for
entirely other reasons. Perhaps it was never meant or build to be permanent.

Bill Oldroyd  posted
>Paul B wrote:
>> 
>> Well they should considering that most Scout Leaders are homosexual
>> paedophiles!
>
>Perhaps you would be so kind as to justify these remarks with some
>facts.

It is a well-known fact. The rate of paedophilia among the general male
population is 110%. Among scoutmasters it is at least 173%. This has
been scientifically proved in at least 31 NSPCC papers that no-one has
ever seriously disputed. 

-- 
PeteM

-- 
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PeteM wrote:
> Bill Oldroyd  posted
>> Paul B wrote:
>>> Well they should considering that most Scout Leaders are homosexual
>>> paedophiles!
>> Perhaps you would be so kind as to justify these remarks with some
>> facts.
> 
> It is a well-known fact. The rate of paedophilia among the general male
> population is 110%. Among scoutmasters it is at least 173%. This has
> been scientifically proved in at least 31 NSPCC papers that no-one has
> ever seriously disputed. 
> 
You are just making it up.

Bill

"Bill Oldroyd"  wrote in message 
news:lNidnREuhskvKv7bRVnyjwA@pipex.net...
> PeteM wrote:
>> Bill Oldroyd  posted
>>> Paul B wrote:
>>>> Well they should considering that most Scout Leaders are homosexual
>>>> paedophiles!
>>> Perhaps you would be so kind as to justify these remarks with some
>>> facts.
>>
>> It is a well-known fact. The rate of paedophilia among the general male
>> population is 110%. Among scoutmasters it is at least 173%. This has
>> been scientifically proved in at least 31 NSPCC papers that no-one has
>> ever seriously disputed.
>>
> You are just making it up.

Gee - you think?

;)

On Mon, 04 Jun 2007 07:56:48 +0100, Bill Oldroyd
 wrote:

>PeteM wrote:
>> Bill Oldroyd  posted
>>> Paul B wrote:
>>>> Well they should considering that most Scout Leaders are homosexual
>>>> paedophiles!
>>> Perhaps you would be so kind as to justify these remarks with some
>>> facts.
>> 
>> It is a well-known fact. The rate of paedophilia among the general male
>> population is 110%. Among scoutmasters it is at least 173%. This has
>> been scientifically proved in at least 31 NSPCC papers that no-one has
>> ever seriously disputed. 
>> 
>You are just making it up.
>
It was in the News of the world so it must be true

Alang  posted
>On Mon, 04 Jun 2007 07:56:48 +0100, Bill Oldroyd
> wrote:
>
>>PeteM wrote:
>>> Bill Oldroyd  posted
>>>> Paul B wrote:
>>>>> Well they should considering that most Scout Leaders are homosexual
>>>>> paedophiles!
>>>> Perhaps you would be so kind as to justify these remarks with some
>>>> facts.
>>> 
>>> It is a well-known fact. The rate of paedophilia among the general male
>>> population is 110%. Among scoutmasters it is at least 173%. This has
>>> been scientifically proved in at least 31 NSPCC papers that no-one has
>>> ever seriously disputed. 
>>> 
>>You are just making it up.
>>
>It was in the News of the world so it must be true

Moreover, anybody who denies it is clearly himself a paedophile. And
since it is well known from NSPCC studies that paedophiles are habitual
liars, we don't need to listen to what they say. 

-- 
PeteM

-- 
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Alang  posted
>On Mon, 04 Jun 2007 07:56:48 +0100, Bill Oldroyd
> wrote:
>
>>PeteM wrote:
>>> Bill Oldroyd  posted
>>>> Paul B wrote:
>>>>> Well they should considering that most Scout Leaders are homosexual
>>>>> paedophiles!
>>>> Perhaps you would be so kind as to justify these remarks with some
>>>> facts.
>>> 
>>> It is a well-known fact. The rate of paedophilia among the general male
>>> population is 110%. Among scoutmasters it is at least 173%. This has
>>> been scientifically proved in at least 31 NSPCC papers that no-one has
>>> ever seriously disputed. 
>>> 
>>You are just making it up.
>>
>It was in the News of the world so it must be true

Moreover, anybody who denies it is clearly himself a paedophile. And
since it is well known from NSPCC studies that paedophiles are habitual
liars, we don't need to listen to what they say. 

-- 
PeteM

-- 
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Alang  posted
>On Mon, 04 Jun 2007 07:56:48 +0100, Bill Oldroyd
> wrote:
>
>>PeteM wrote:
>>> Bill Oldroyd  posted
>>>> Paul B wrote:
>>>>> Well they should considering that most Scout Leaders are homosexual
>>>>> paedophiles!
>>>> Perhaps you would be so kind as to justify these remarks with some
>>>> facts.
>>> 
>>> It is a well-known fact. The rate of paedophilia among the general male
>>> population is 110%. Among scoutmasters it is at least 173%. This has
>>> been scientifically proved in at least 31 NSPCC papers that no-one has
>>> ever seriously disputed. 
>>> 
>>You are just making it up.
>>
>It was in the News of the world so it must be true

Moreover, anybody who denies it is clearly himself a paedophile. And
since it is well known from NSPCC studies that paedophiles are habitual
liars, we don't need to listen to what they say. 

-- 
PeteM

-- 
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Alang  posted
>On Mon, 04 Jun 2007 07:56:48 +0100, Bill Oldroyd
> wrote:
>
>>PeteM wrote:
>>> Bill Oldroyd  posted
>>>> Paul B wrote:
>>>>> Well they should considering that most Scout Leaders are homosexual
>>>>> paedophiles!
>>>> Perhaps you would be so kind as to justify these remarks with some
>>>> facts.
>>> 
>>> It is a well-known fact. The rate of paedophilia among the general male
>>> population is 110%. Among scoutmasters it is at least 173%. This has
>>> been scientifically proved in at least 31 NSPCC papers that no-one has
>>> ever seriously disputed. 
>>> 
>>You are just making it up.
>>
>It was in the News of the world so it must be true

Moreover, anybody who denies it is clearly himself a paedophile. And
since it is well known from NSPCC studies that paedophiles are habitual
liars, we don't need to listen to what they say. 

-- 
PeteM

-- 
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"kj"  wrote in message 
news:p6mdnfGDhtkEN_zbRVnyugA@bt.com...
> Knowlege is Powder wrote:
>> "Steve Greene" <stephen_greene@hotmail.com.invalid> wrote in message 
>> news:3b4363hb2q8bt9e5aaut5j0vukva95r26r@4ax.com...
>>> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=459310&in_page_id=1770
>>>
>>> For almost 70 years, Scouts and Guides have savoured their place of
>>> peaceful worship under the trees.
>>
>> I would read Andrew Thorpe's Comment (Quoted below), i believe he is 
>> something to do with HQ? Media officer?
>>
>> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=459310&in_page_id=1770&in_page_id=1770&expand=true#StartComments
>>
>> I would like to take this opportunity to add some information that has 
>> not been included in this piece. The Scout Movement has always been multi 
>> faith since it was born 100 years ago. Indeed I can confirm that the old 
>> chapel had been used for multi faith services sometime. The chapel has 
>> simply been moved to an area that is more fit for purpose and all of the 
>> materials used in the old facility have been reused in the new one.
>>
>> Scouting offers fun, challenge and adventure to people of all faiths and 
>> backgrounds. I can also confirm that there has been no change imposed by 
>> The Scout Association.
>>
>> - Andrew Thorp, London
>>
>>
> typical of the Daily Heil and the fascists that manipulate their mis-news

No, Christains and Patriots are not "fascists". They are people who love 
their God, their country or both. They are certainly not traitorous, 
diseased cowards such as yourself.

Phil wrote:
> "kj"  wrote in message 
> news:p6mdnfGDhtkEN_zbRVnyugA@bt.com...
>> Knowlege is Powder wrote:
>>> "Steve Greene" <stephen_greene@hotmail.com.invalid> wrote in message 
>>> news:3b4363hb2q8bt9e5aaut5j0vukva95r26r@4ax.com...
>>>> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=459310&in_page_id=1770
>>>>
>>>> For almost 70 years, Scouts and Guides have savoured their place of
>>>> peaceful worship under the trees.
>>> I would read Andrew Thorpe's Comment (Quoted below), i believe he is 
>>> something to do with HQ? Media officer?
>>>
>>> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=459310&in_page_id=1770&in_page_id=1770&expand=true#StartComments
>>>
>>> I would like to take this opportunity to add some information that has 
>>> not been included in this piece. The Scout Movement has always been multi 
>>> faith since it was born 100 years ago. Indeed I can confirm that the old 
>>> chapel had been used for multi faith services sometime. The chapel has 
>>> simply been moved to an area that is more fit for purpose and all of the 
>>> materials used in the old facility have been reused in the new one.
>>>
>>> Scouting offers fun, challenge and adventure to people of all faiths and 
>>> backgrounds. I can also confirm that there has been no change imposed by 
>>> The Scout Association.
>>>
>>> - Andrew Thorp, London
>>>
>>>
>> typical of the Daily Heil and the fascists that manipulate their mis-news
> 
> No, Christains and Patriots are not "fascists". They are people who love 
> their God, their country or both. They are certainly not traitorous, 
> diseased cowards such as yourself. 
> 
> 
There is nothing to stop a fascist being a patriot, or a patriot being a 
fascist, but what sort of God does a Christain worship?

Phil wrote:
> "kj"  wrote in message 
> news:p6mdnfGDhtkEN_zbRVnyugA@bt.com...
>> Knowlege is Powder wrote:
>>> "Steve