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date: Fri, 01 Jun 2007 02:39:03 +0100,    group: uk.local.nw-england        back       
Anti-BNP protesters organise rally   
http://www.gazetteandherald.co.uk/news/corshamheadlines/display.var.1438331.0.antibnp_protesters_organise_rally.php

Anti-BNP protesters will be taking to the streets of Corsham to show
their anger at a member of the far-right party claiming a seat on the
town council.

A rally and protest has been organised for Monday, June 11, after BNP
Coun Michael Simpkins took the Rudloe ward uncontested at the recent
elections.

Kyle Thornhill, 21, who has lived in Corsham all his life, has had
leaflets and posters printed to publicise the event.
advertisement

He is calling on everyone in Corsham and the surrounding area who
objects to BNP involvement in the town to get involved.

He said: "I, like a lot of local people, did not get to hear that this
BNP candidate was standing until it was too late to do anything about
it, because if we had I would have stood against him to stop the BNP
getting in."

He is organising the campaign to show what he says is the "strong
anti-fascist feeling" in Corsham.

"Although there was a protest last week, again not enough people heard
about it until too late, so what we are doing is organising a protest,
letting plenty of people know about it and giving them plenty of time.

"The response I've had from all the people I've met has been
overwhelmingly positive, with the only negative comments coming from
BNP people via websites."

Mr Thornhill, whose great grandfather came from Barbados, says the
rally will also celebrate Britain's multi-culturalism.

African drummers are expected to attend and there will be a host of
foreign cuisines on offer.

"The vast majority of people in Corsham do not want the BNP here, and
it has been inspiring to hear the comments from all the people I've
spoken to," said Mr Thornhill.

"I'm sure there will be a very big turnout."
date: Fri, 01 Jun 2007 02:39:03 +0100   author:   Steve Greene lid

Re: Anti-BNP protesters organise rally   
Steve Greene wrote:
> http://www.gazetteandherald.co.uk/news/corshamheadlines/display.var.1438331.0.antibnp_protesters_organise_rally.php
> 
> Anti-BNP protesters will be taking to the streets of Corsham to show
> their anger at a member of the far-right party claiming a seat on the
> town council.
> 

Just attend every council meeting and note what the fuckwit says, if he 
shows any disrespect to people on race grounds then shove a complaint 
off to the Standards Board for England who will remove him from office.
date: Fri, 01 Jun 2007 04:42:01 +0100   author:   Laurie

Re: Anti-BNP protesters organise rally   
kj wrote:
> Laurie wrote:
>> Steve Greene wrote:
>>> http://www.gazetteandherald.co.uk/news/corshamheadlines/display.var.1438331.0.antibnp_protesters_organise_rally.php 
>>>
>>>
>>> Anti-BNP protesters will be taking to the streets of Corsham to show
>>> their anger at a member of the far-right party claiming a seat on the
>>> town council.
>>>
>>

       Why don't they stand for election themselves, perhaps on an anti 
fascist platform, that way if successful they can claim some popular 
support!! Are they protesting about what bit of democracy we have?
date: Fri, 01 Jun 2007 16:42:00 +0100   author:   Fred

Re: Anti-BNP protesters organise rally   
>
> "The vast majority of people in Corsham do not want the BNP here, and
> it has been inspiring to hear the comments from all the people I've
> spoken to," said Mr Thornhill.>

How did he get elected then?
date: Fri, 01 Jun 2007 13:04:07 -0700   author:   unknown

Re: Anti-BNP protesters organise rally   
kj wrote:
> Laurie wrote:
>> Steve Greene wrote:
>>> http://www.gazetteandherald.co.uk/news/corshamheadlines/display.var.1438331.0.antibnp_protesters_organise_rally.php 
>>>
>>>
>>> Anti-BNP protesters will be taking to the streets of Corsham to show
>>> their anger at a member of the far-right party claiming a seat on the
>>> town council.
>>>
>>

       Why don't they stand for election themselves, perhaps on an anti 
fascist platform, that way if successful they can claim some popular 
support!! Are they protesting about what bit of democracy we have?
date: Fri, 01 Jun 2007 16:42:00 +0100   author:   Fred

Re: Anti-BNP protesters organise rally   
>
> "The vast majority of people in Corsham do not want the BNP here, and
> it has been inspiring to hear the comments from all the people I've
> spoken to," said Mr Thornhill.>

How did he get elected then?
date: Fri, 01 Jun 2007 13:04:07 -0700   author:   unknown

Re: Anti-BNP protesters organise rally   
MikeinCamden@aol.com wrote:

>>"The vast majority of people in Corsham do not want the BNP here, and
>>it has been inspiring to hear the comments from all the people I've
>>spoken to," said Mr Thornhill.>
> 
> 
> How did he get elected then?
> 
> 

Oops!
date: Fri, 01 Jun 2007 22:10:26 -0400   author:   Frank F. Matthews

Re: Anti-BNP protesters organise rally   
kj wrote:
> Laurie wrote:
>> Steve Greene wrote:
>>> http://www.gazetteandherald.co.uk/news/corshamheadlines/display.var.1438331.0.antibnp_protesters_organise_rally.php 
>>>
>>>
>>> Anti-BNP protesters will be taking to the streets of Corsham to show
>>> their anger at a member of the far-right party claiming a seat on the
>>> town council.
>>>
>>

       Why don't they stand for election themselves, perhaps on an anti 
fascist platform, that way if successful they can claim some popular 
support!! Are they protesting about what bit of democracy we have?
date: Fri, 01 Jun 2007 16:42:00 +0100   author:   Fred

Re: Anti-BNP protesters organise rally   
>
> "The vast majority of people in Corsham do not want the BNP here, and
> it has been inspiring to hear the comments from all the people I've
> spoken to," said Mr Thornhill.>

How did he get elected then?
date: Fri, 01 Jun 2007 13:04:07 -0700   author:   unknown

Re: Anti-BNP protesters organise rally   
MikeinCamden@aol.com wrote:

>>"The vast majority of people in Corsham do not want the BNP here, and
>>it has been inspiring to hear the comments from all the people I've
>>spoken to," said Mr Thornhill.>
> 
> 
> How did he get elected then?
> 
> 

Oops!
date: Fri, 01 Jun 2007 22:10:26 -0400   author:   Frank F. Matthews

Re: Anti-BNP protesters organise rally   
wrote in message 
news:1180728247.051344.32730@u30g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...
>
>>
>> "The vast majority of people in Corsham do not want the BNP here, and
>> it has been inspiring to hear the comments from all the people I've
>> spoken to," said Mr Thornhill.>
>
> How did he get elected then?

Did any-one stand against him?
date: Sat, 02 Jun 2007 11:14:38 GMT   author:   Jones L.J@hereandnow

Re: Anti-BNP protesters organise rally   
""  Coun Michael Simpkins took the Rudloe ward uncontested at the recent
elections.  ""
date: Sat, 02 Jun 2007 11:33:28 GMT   author:   Jones L.J@hereandnow

Re: Anti-BNP protesters organise rally   
On Sat, 02 Jun 2007 11:33:28 GMT, "Jones" <L.J@hereandnow> wrote:

>""  Coun Michael Simpkins took the Rudloe ward uncontested at the recent
>elections.  ""
>

Then there is no cause for complaint.
date: Sat, 02 Jun 2007 12:56:08 +0100   author:   Maria

Re: Anti-BNP protesters organise rally   
On Fri, 01 Jun 2007 04:42:01 +0100, Laurie  wrote:

>Steve Greene wrote:
>> http://www.gazetteandherald.co.uk/news/corshamheadlines/display.var.1438331.0.antibnp_protesters_organise_rally.php
>> 
>> Anti-BNP protesters will be taking to the streets of Corsham to show
>> their anger at a member of the far-right party claiming a seat on the
>> town council.
>> 
>
>Just attend every council meeting and note what the fuckwit says, if he 
>shows any disrespect to people on race grounds then shove a complaint 
>off to the Standards Board for England who will remove him from office.

Indeed. Let's uphold the undemocratic standards board which can remove
someone who was fairly and squarely elected to public office by the
electorate.

Hitler would have liked the Standards Board.
date: Sat, 02 Jun 2007 12:57:25 +0100   author:   Maria

Re: Anti-BNP protesters organise rally   
kj wrote:
> Laurie wrote:
>> Steve Greene wrote:
>>> http://www.gazetteandherald.co.uk/news/corshamheadlines/display.var.1438331.0.antibnp_protesters_organise_rally.php 
>>>
>>>
>>> Anti-BNP protesters will be taking to the streets of Corsham to show
>>> their anger at a member of the far-right party claiming a seat on the
>>> town council.
>>>
>>

       Why don't they stand for election themselves, perhaps on an anti 
fascist platform, that way if successful they can claim some popular 
support!! Are they protesting about what bit of democracy we have?
date: Fri, 01 Jun 2007 16:42:00 +0100   author:   Fred

Re: Anti-BNP protesters organise rally   
>
> "The vast majority of people in Corsham do not want the BNP here, and
> it has been inspiring to hear the comments from all the people I've
> spoken to," said Mr Thornhill.>

How did he get elected then?
date: Fri, 01 Jun 2007 13:04:07 -0700   author:   unknown

Re: Anti-BNP protesters organise rally   
MikeinCamden@aol.com wrote:

>>"The vast majority of people in Corsham do not want the BNP here, and
>>it has been inspiring to hear the comments from all the people I've
>>spoken to," said Mr Thornhill.>
> 
> 
> How did he get elected then?
> 
> 

Oops!
date: Fri, 01 Jun 2007 22:10:26 -0400   author:   Frank F. Matthews

Re: Anti-BNP protesters organise rally   
wrote in message 
news:1180728247.051344.32730@u30g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...
>
>>
>> "The vast majority of people in Corsham do not want the BNP here, and
>> it has been inspiring to hear the comments from all the people I've
>> spoken to," said Mr Thornhill.>
>
> How did he get elected then?

Did any-one stand against him?
date: Sat, 02 Jun 2007 11:14:38 GMT   author:   Jones L.J@hereandnow

Re: Anti-BNP protesters organise rally   
""  Coun Michael Simpkins took the Rudloe ward uncontested at the recent
elections.  ""
date: Sat, 02 Jun 2007 11:33:28 GMT   author:   Jones L.J@hereandnow

Re: Anti-BNP protesters organise rally   
On Sat, 02 Jun 2007 11:33:28 GMT, "Jones" <L.J@hereandnow> wrote:

>""  Coun Michael Simpkins took the Rudloe ward uncontested at the recent
>elections.  ""
>

Then there is no cause for complaint.
date: Sat, 02 Jun 2007 12:56:08 +0100   author:   Maria

Re: Anti-BNP protesters organise rally   
On Fri, 01 Jun 2007 04:42:01 +0100, Laurie  wrote:

>Steve Greene wrote:
>> http://www.gazetteandherald.co.uk/news/corshamheadlines/display.var.1438331.0.antibnp_protesters_organise_rally.php
>> 
>> Anti-BNP protesters will be taking to the streets of Corsham to show
>> their anger at a member of the far-right party claiming a seat on the
>> town council.
>> 
>
>Just attend every council meeting and note what the fuckwit says, if he 
>shows any disrespect to people on race grounds then shove a complaint 
>off to the Standards Board for England who will remove him from office.

Indeed. Let's uphold the undemocratic standards board which can remove
someone who was fairly and squarely elected to public office by the
electorate.

Hitler would have liked the Standards Board.
date: Sat, 02 Jun 2007 12:57:25 +0100   author:   Maria

Re: Anti-BNP protesters organise rally   
Maria wrote:
> On Fri, 01 Jun 2007 04:42:01 +0100, Laurie  wrote:
> 
>> Steve Greene wrote:
>>> http://www.gazetteandherald.co.uk/news/corshamheadlines/display.var.1438331.0.antibnp_protesters_organise_rally.php
>>>
>>> Anti-BNP protesters will be taking to the streets of Corsham to show
>>> their anger at a member of the far-right party claiming a seat on the
>>> town council.
>>>
>> Just attend every council meeting and note what the fuckwit says, if he 
>> shows any disrespect to people on race grounds then shove a complaint 
>> off to the Standards Board for England who will remove him from office.
> 
> Indeed. Let's uphold the undemocratic standards board which can remove
> someone who was fairly and squarely elected to public office by the
> electorate.
> 
> Hitler would have liked the Standards Board.
Hitler just had his Brown shirts intimidate anybody he fancied..he was 
his own Standards Board and is of course the hero of the BNP
date: Sat, 02 Jun 2007 13:23:17 +0100   author:   kj

Re: Anti-BNP protesters organise rally   
Jones wrote:
>  wrote in message 
> news:1180728247.051344.32730@u30g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...
> 
>>>"The vast majority of people in Corsham do not want the BNP here, and
>>>it has been inspiring to hear the comments from all the people I've
>>>spoken to," said Mr Thornhill.>
>>
>>How did he get elected then?
> 
> 
> Did any-one stand against him? 
> 
> 

The lack of an opponent is usually considered to be a sign of massive 
support.
date: Sat, 02 Jun 2007 10:57:53 -0400   author:   Frank F. Matthews

Re: Anti-BNP protesters organise rally   
kj wrote:
> Laurie wrote:
>> Steve Greene wrote:
>>> http://www.gazetteandherald.co.uk/news/corshamheadlines/display.var.1438331.0.antibnp_protesters_organise_rally.php 
>>>
>>>
>>> Anti-BNP protesters will be taking to the streets of Corsham to show
>>> their anger at a member of the far-right party claiming a seat on the
>>> town council.
>>>
>>

       Why don't they stand for election themselves, perhaps on an anti 
fascist platform, that way if successful they can claim some popular 
support!! Are they protesting about what bit of democracy we have?
date: Fri, 01 Jun 2007 16:42:00 +0100   author:   Fred

Re: Anti-BNP protesters organise rally   
>
> "The vast majority of people in Corsham do not want the BNP here, and
> it has been inspiring to hear the comments from all the people I've
> spoken to," said Mr Thornhill.>

How did he get elected then?
date: Fri, 01 Jun 2007 13:04:07 -0700   author:   unknown

Re: Anti-BNP protesters organise rally   
MikeinCamden@aol.com wrote:

>>"The vast majority of people in Corsham do not want the BNP here, and
>>it has been inspiring to hear the comments from all the people I've
>>spoken to," said Mr Thornhill.>
> 
> 
> How did he get elected then?
> 
> 

Oops!
date: Fri, 01 Jun 2007 22:10:26 -0400   author:   Frank F. Matthews

Re: Anti-BNP protesters organise rally   
wrote in message 
news:1180728247.051344.32730@u30g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...
>
>>
>> "The vast majority of people in Corsham do not want the BNP here, and
>> it has been inspiring to hear the comments from all the people I've
>> spoken to," said Mr Thornhill.>
>
> How did he get elected then?

Did any-one stand against him?
date: Sat, 02 Jun 2007 11:14:38 GMT   author:   Jones L.J@hereandnow

Re: Anti-BNP protesters organise rally   
""  Coun Michael Simpkins took the Rudloe ward uncontested at the recent
elections.  ""
date: Sat, 02 Jun 2007 11:33:28 GMT   author:   Jones L.J@hereandnow

Re: Anti-BNP protesters organise rally   
On Sat, 02 Jun 2007 11:33:28 GMT, "Jones" <L.J@hereandnow> wrote:

>""  Coun Michael Simpkins took the Rudloe ward uncontested at the recent
>elections.  ""
>

Then there is no cause for complaint.
date: Sat, 02 Jun 2007 12:56:08 +0100   author:   Maria

Re: Anti-BNP protesters organise rally   
On Fri, 01 Jun 2007 04:42:01 +0100, Laurie  wrote:

>Steve Greene wrote:
>> http://www.gazetteandherald.co.uk/news/corshamheadlines/display.var.1438331.0.antibnp_protesters_organise_rally.php
>> 
>> Anti-BNP protesters will be taking to the streets of Corsham to show
>> their anger at a member of the far-right party claiming a seat on the
>> town council.
>> 
>
>Just attend every council meeting and note what the fuckwit says, if he 
>shows any disrespect to people on race grounds then shove a complaint 
>off to the Standards Board for England who will remove him from office.

Indeed. Let's uphold the undemocratic standards board which can remove
someone who was fairly and squarely elected to public office by the
electorate.

Hitler would have liked the Standards Board.
date: Sat, 02 Jun 2007 12:57:25 +0100   author:   Maria

Re: Anti-BNP protesters organise rally   
Maria wrote:
> On Fri, 01 Jun 2007 04:42:01 +0100, Laurie  wrote:
> 
>> Steve Greene wrote:
>>> http://www.gazetteandherald.co.uk/news/corshamheadlines/display.var.1438331.0.antibnp_protesters_organise_rally.php
>>>
>>> Anti-BNP protesters will be taking to the streets of Corsham to show
>>> their anger at a member of the far-right party claiming a seat on the
>>> town council.
>>>
>> Just attend every council meeting and note what the fuckwit says, if he 
>> shows any disrespect to people on race grounds then shove a complaint 
>> off to the Standards Board for England who will remove him from office.
> 
> Indeed. Let's uphold the undemocratic standards board which can remove
> someone who was fairly and squarely elected to public office by the
> electorate.
> 
> Hitler would have liked the Standards Board.
Hitler just had his Brown shirts intimidate anybody he fancied..he was 
his own Standards Board and is of course the hero of the BNP
date: Sat, 02 Jun 2007 13:23:17 +0100   author:   kj

Re: Anti-BNP protesters organise rally   
kj wrote:

> Maria wrote:
> >On Sat, 02 Jun 2007 13:23:17 +0100, kj  wrote:
> > 
> > > Maria wrote:
> >>>On Fri, 01 Jun 2007 04:42:01 +0100, Laurie  wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > > Steve Greene wrote:
> > > > > > http://www.gazetteandherald.co.uk/news/corshamheadlines/disp
> > > > > > lay.var.1438331.0.antibnp_protesters_organise_rally.php
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Anti-BNP protesters will be taking to the streets of
> > > > > > Corsham to show their anger at a member of the far-right
> > > > > > party claiming a seat on the town council.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > Just attend every council meeting and note what the fuckwit
> > > > > says, if he  shows any disrespect to people on race grounds
> > > > > then shove a complaint  off to the Standards Board for
> > > > > England who will remove him from office.
> > > > Indeed. Let's uphold the undemocratic standards board which can
> > > > remove someone who was fairly and squarely elected to public
> > > > office by the electorate.
> > > > 
> > > > Hitler would have liked the Standards Board.
> > > Hitler just had his Brown shirts intimidate anybody he
> > > fancied..he was  his own Standards Board and is of course the
> > > hero of the BNP
> > 
> > With the Standards Board, there is no need for anyone to intimidate
> > anybody! It has legitimised (ok legalised) the undemocratic removal
> > of elected representatives - no violence necessary.
> > At least when it was violent, a law was actually being broken and
> > someone could be held to account for it...
> > 
> SB can only remove a person for contravention of policy and
> law...thats IS democracy in a civilised world...as many BNP
> councillors have found..

And if the crafty devils actually obey the law? Then simply make more
laws, true democracy in action.

--
date: 3 Jun 2007 08:28:17 GMT   author:   joe

Re: Anti-BNP protesters organise rally   
kj wrote:
> ®i©ardo wrote:
>> kj wrote:
>>> Maria wrote:
>>>> On Fri, 01 Jun 2007 04:42:01 +0100, Laurie  wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Steve Greene wrote:
>>>>>> http://www.gazetteandherald.co.uk/news/corshamheadlines/display.var.1438331.0.antibnp_protesters_organise_rally.php 
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Anti-BNP protesters will be taking to the streets of Corsham to show
>>>>>> their anger at a member of the far-right party claiming a seat on the
>>>>>> town council.
>>>>>>
>>>>> Just attend every council meeting and note what the fuckwit says, 
>>>>> if he shows any disrespect to people on race grounds then shove a 
>>>>> complaint off to the Standards Board for England who will remove 
>>>>> him from office.
>>>>
>>>> Indeed. Let's uphold the undemocratic standards board which can remove
>>>> someone who was fairly and squarely elected to public office by the
>>>> electorate.
>>>>
>>>> Hitler would have liked the Standards Board.
>>> Hitler just had his Brown shirts intimidate anybody he fancied..he 
>>> was his own Standards Board and is of course the hero of the BNP
>>
>> In what way? If you want a monopoly of hypocrisy try the extreme left 
>> "Anti-Nazi" League, with their Brownshirt style gatherings at frequent 
>> intervals here in the UK. The only difference between Hitler and 
>> Stalin was that Hitler stopped mass murdering people in 1945.
>>
>> The cry from the extreme left is that "ah, but that's not REAL 
>> communism/socialism". Yet the greatest atrocities and pogroms of the 
>> 20th century have all been overseen by those acting in its name.
>>
>> I suppose that the democratic election of this councillor will set in 
>> train a sequence of anti-democratic actions by the extreme left: as is 
>> being proposed now with "demonstrations"- presumably "spontaneous"?
>>
>> Did they care enough to stand for office?
>>
>> What did YOU do in The great War Daddy?
>>
> But the BNP don't idolise Stalin and don't claim to be communist, so why 
> would I compare them to Soviet Russia, when their hero is Hitler.
> 

We're talking about hypocrisy here - and the stance of the so called 
Anti-Nazi League and its outright undemocratic fascist activities. Of 
course the BNP don't idolise Stalin, why should they look to one of the 
world's greatest mass-murderers?

-- 
Moving things in still pictures!
date: Sun, 03 Jun 2007 09:07:04 GMT   author:   ®i©ardo

Re: Anti-BNP protesters organise rally   
kj wrote:

> Maria wrote:
> >On Sat, 02 Jun 2007 13:23:17 +0100, kj  wrote:
> > 
> > > Maria wrote:
> >>>On Fri, 01 Jun 2007 04:42:01 +0100, Laurie  wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > > Steve Greene wrote:
> > > > > > http://www.gazetteandherald.co.uk/news/corshamheadlines/disp
> > > > > > lay.var.1438331.0.antibnp_protesters_organise_rally.php
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Anti-BNP protesters will be taking to the streets of
> > > > > > Corsham to show their anger at a member of the far-right
> > > > > > party claiming a seat on the town council.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > Just attend every council meeting and note what the fuckwit
> > > > > says, if he  shows any disrespect to people on race grounds
> > > > > then shove a complaint  off to the Standards Board for
> > > > > England who will remove him from office.
> > > > Indeed. Let's uphold the undemocratic standards board which can
> > > > remove someone who was fairly and squarely elected to public
> > > > office by the electorate.
> > > > 
> > > > Hitler would have liked the Standards Board.
> > > Hitler just had his Brown shirts intimidate anybody he
> > > fancied..he was  his own Standards Board and is of course the
> > > hero of the BNP
> > 
> > With the Standards Board, there is no need for anyone to intimidate
> > anybody! It has legitimised (ok legalised) the undemocratic removal
> > of elected representatives - no violence necessary.
> > At least when it was violent, a law was actually being broken and
> > someone could be held to account for it...
> > 
> SB can only remove a person for contravention of policy and
> law...thats IS democracy in a civilised world...as many BNP
> councillors have found..

And if the crafty devils actually obey the law? Then simply make more
laws, true democracy in action.

--
date: 3 Jun 2007 08:28:17 GMT   author:   joe

Re: Anti-BNP protesters organise rally   
kj wrote:
> ®i©ardo wrote:
>> kj wrote:
>>> Maria wrote:
>>>> On Fri, 01 Jun 2007 04:42:01 +0100, Laurie  wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Steve Greene wrote:
>>>>>> http://www.gazetteandherald.co.uk/news/corshamheadlines/display.var.1438331.0.antibnp_protesters_organise_rally.php 
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Anti-BNP protesters will be taking to the streets of Corsham to show
>>>>>> their anger at a member of the far-right party claiming a seat on the
>>>>>> town council.
>>>>>>
>>>>> Just attend every council meeting and note what the fuckwit says, 
>>>>> if he shows any disrespect to people on race grounds then shove a 
>>>>> complaint off to the Standards Board for England who will remove 
>>>>> him from office.
>>>>
>>>> Indeed. Let's uphold the undemocratic standards board which can remove
>>>> someone who was fairly and squarely elected to public office by the
>>>> electorate.
>>>>
>>>> Hitler would have liked the Standards Board.
>>> Hitler just had his Brown shirts intimidate anybody he fancied..he 
>>> was his own Standards Board and is of course the hero of the BNP
>>
>> In what way? If you want a monopoly of hypocrisy try the extreme left 
>> "Anti-Nazi" League, with their Brownshirt style gatherings at frequent 
>> intervals here in the UK. The only difference between Hitler and 
>> Stalin was that Hitler stopped mass murdering people in 1945.
>>
>> The cry from the extreme left is that "ah, but that's not REAL 
>> communism/socialism". Yet the greatest atrocities and pogroms of the 
>> 20th century have all been overseen by those acting in its name.
>>
>> I suppose that the democratic election of this councillor will set in 
>> train a sequence of anti-democratic actions by the extreme left: as is 
>> being proposed now with "demonstrations"- presumably "spontaneous"?
>>
>> Did they care enough to stand for office?
>>
>> What did YOU do in The great War Daddy?
>>
> But the BNP don't idolise Stalin and don't claim to be communist, so why 
> would I compare them to Soviet Russia, when their hero is Hitler.
> 

We're talking about hypocrisy here - and the stance of the so called 
Anti-Nazi League and its outright undemocratic fascist activities. Of 
course the BNP don't idolise Stalin, why should they look to one of the 
world's greatest mass-murderers?

-- 
Moving things in still pictures!
date: Sun, 03 Jun 2007 09:07:04 GMT   author:   ®i©ardo

Re: Anti-BNP protesters organise rally   
®i©ardo wrote:
> kj wrote:
>> ®i©ardo wrote:
>>> kj wrote:
>>>> Maria wrote:
>>>>> On Fri, 01 Jun 2007 04:42:01 +0100, Laurie  wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Steve Greene wrote:
>>>>>>> http://www.gazetteandherald.co.uk/news/corshamheadlines/display.var.1438331.0.antibnp_protesters_organise_rally.php 
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Anti-BNP protesters will be taking to the streets of Corsham to show
>>>>>>> their anger at a member of the far-right party claiming a seat on 
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> town council.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Just attend every council meeting and note what the fuckwit says, 
>>>>>> if he shows any disrespect to people on race grounds then shove a 
>>>>>> complaint off to the Standards Board for England who will remove 
>>>>>> him from office.
>>>>>
>>>>> Indeed. Let's uphold the undemocratic standards board which can remove
>>>>> someone who was fairly and squarely elected to public office by the
>>>>> electorate.
>>>>>
>>>>> Hitler would have liked the Standards Board.
>>>> Hitler just had his Brown shirts intimidate anybody he fancied..he 
>>>> was his own Standards Board and is of course the hero of the BNP
>>>
>>> In what way? If you want a monopoly of hypocrisy try the extreme left 
>>> "Anti-Nazi" League, with their Brownshirt style gatherings at 
>>> frequent intervals here in the UK. The only difference between Hitler 
>>> and Stalin was that Hitler stopped mass murdering people in 1945.
>>>
>>> The cry from the extreme left is that "ah, but that's not REAL 
>>> communism/socialism". Yet the greatest atrocities and pogroms of the 
>>> 20th century have all been overseen by those acting in its name.
>>>
>>> I suppose that the democratic election of this councillor will set in 
>>> train a sequence of anti-democratic actions by the extreme left: as 
>>> is being proposed now with "demonstrations"- presumably "spontaneous"?
>>>
>>> Did they care enough to stand for office?
>>>
>>> What did YOU do in The great War Daddy?
>>>
>> But the BNP don't idolise Stalin and don't claim to be communist, so 
>> why would I compare them to Soviet Russia, when their hero is Hitler.
>>
> 
> We're talking about hypocrisy here - and the stance of the so called 
> Anti-Nazi League and its outright undemocratic fascist activities. Of 
> course the BNP don't idolise Stalin, why should they look to one of the 
> world's greatest mass-murderers?
> 
c'mon ..get rid of hunting but you can't get rid of BNP baiting
date: Sun, 03 Jun 2007 11:33:04 +0100   author:   kj

Re: Anti-BNP protesters organise rally   
"Frank F. Matthews"  wrote in message 
news:46619381$0$16706$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
>
>
> Jones wrote:
>>  wrote in message 
>> news:1180728247.051344.32730@u30g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...
>>
>>>>"The vast majority of people in Corsham do not want the BNP here, and
>>>>it has been inspiring to hear the comments from all the people I've
>>>>spoken to," said Mr Thornhill.>
>>>
>>>How did he get elected then?
>>
>>
>> Did any-one stand against him?
>
> The lack of an opponent is usually considered to be a sign of massive 
> support.

................................................................. or apathy?
Or a good place to sneak some-one through?
date: Sun, 03 Jun 2007 11:02:05 GMT   author:   Jones L.J@hereandnow

Re: Anti-BNP protesters organise rally   
"Jones" <L.J@hereandnow> wrote in message 
news:Ncx8i.7823$rW2.2689@newsfe7-win.ntli.net...
>
> "Frank F. Matthews"  wrote in message 
> news:46619381$0$16706$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
>>
>>
>> Jones wrote:
>>>  wrote in message 
>>> news:1180728247.051344.32730@u30g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...
>>>
>>>>>"The vast majority of people in Corsham do not want the BNP here, and
>>>>>it has been inspiring to hear the comments from all the people I've
>>>>>spoken to," said Mr Thornhill.>
>>>>
>>>>How did he get elected then?
>>>
>>>
>>> Did any-one stand against him?
>>
>> The lack of an opponent is usually considered to be a sign of massive 
>> support.
>
> ................................................................ or 
> apathy?
> Or a good place to sneak some-one through?

Since nominations are in the public domain for some weeks before the 
election, it can hardly be described as "sneaking through", simpleton.
date: Sun, 3 Jun 2007 15:20:13 +0100   author:   Chris X

Re: Anti-BNP protesters organise rally   
kj wrote:

> Maria wrote:
> >On Sat, 02 Jun 2007 13:23:17 +0100, kj  wrote:
> > 
> > > Maria wrote:
> >>>On Fri, 01 Jun 2007 04:42:01 +0100, Laurie  wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > > Steve Greene wrote:
> > > > > > http://www.gazetteandherald.co.uk/news/corshamheadlines/disp
> > > > > > lay.var.1438331.0.antibnp_protesters_organise_rally.php
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Anti-BNP protesters will be taking to the streets of
> > > > > > Corsham to show their anger at a member of the far-right
> > > > > > party claiming a seat on the town council.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > Just attend every council meeting and note what the fuckwit
> > > > > says, if he  shows any disrespect to people on race grounds
> > > > > then shove a complaint  off to the Standards Board for
> > > > > England who will remove him from office.
> > > > Indeed. Let's uphold the undemocratic standards board which can
> > > > remove someone who was fairly and squarely elected to public
> > > > office by the electorate.
> > > > 
> > > > Hitler would have liked the Standards Board.
> > > Hitler just had his Brown shirts intimidate anybody he
> > > fancied..he was  his own Standards Board and is of course the
> > > hero of the BNP
> > 
> > With the Standards Board, there is no need for anyone to intimidate
> > anybody! It has legitimised (ok legalised) the undemocratic removal
> > of elected representatives - no violence necessary.
> > At least when it was violent, a law was actually being broken and
> > someone could be held to account for it...
> > 
> SB can only remove a person for contravention of policy and
> law...thats IS democracy in a civilised world...as many BNP
> councillors have found..

And if the crafty devils actually obey the law? Then simply make more
laws, true democracy in action.

--
date: 3 Jun 2007 08:28:17 GMT   author:   joe

Re: Anti-BNP protesters organise rally   
kj wrote:
> ®i©ardo wrote:
>> kj wrote:
>>> Maria wrote:
>>>> On Fri, 01 Jun 2007 04:42:01 +0100, Laurie  wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Steve Greene wrote:
>>>>>> http://www.gazetteandherald.co.uk/news/corshamheadlines/display.var.1438331.0.antibnp_protesters_organise_rally.php 
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Anti-BNP protesters will be taking to the streets of Corsham to show
>>>>>> their anger at a member of the far-right party claiming a seat on the
>>>>>> town council.
>>>>>>
>>>>> Just attend every council meeting and note what the fuckwit says, 
>>>>> if he shows any disrespect to people on race grounds then shove a 
>>>>> complaint off to the Standards Board for England who will remove 
>>>>> him from office.
>>>>
>>>> Indeed. Let's uphold the undemocratic standards board which can remove
>>>> someone who was fairly and squarely elected to public office by the
>>>> electorate.
>>>>
>>>> Hitler would have liked the Standards Board.
>>> Hitler just had his Brown shirts intimidate anybody he fancied..he 
>>> was his own Standards Board and is of course the hero of the BNP
>>
>> In what way? If you want a monopoly of hypocrisy try the extreme left 
>> "Anti-Nazi" League, with their Brownshirt style gatherings at frequent 
>> intervals here in the UK. The only difference between Hitler and 
>> Stalin was that Hitler stopped mass murdering people in 1945.
>>
>> The cry from the extreme left is that "ah, but that's not REAL 
>> communism/socialism". Yet the greatest atrocities and pogroms of the 
>> 20th century have all been overseen by those acting in its name.
>>
>> I suppose that the democratic election of this councillor will set in 
>> train a sequence of anti-democratic actions by the extreme left: as is 
>> being proposed now with "demonstrations"- presumably "spontaneous"?
>>
>> Did they care enough to stand for office?
>>
>> What did YOU do in The great War Daddy?
>>
> But the BNP don't idolise Stalin and don't claim to be communist, so why 
> would I compare them to Soviet Russia, when their hero is Hitler.
> 

We're talking about hypocrisy here - and the stance of the so called 
Anti-Nazi League and its outright undemocratic fascist activities. Of 
course the BNP don't idolise Stalin, why should they look to one of the 
world's greatest mass-murderers?

-- 
Moving things in still pictures!
date: Sun, 03 Jun 2007 09:07:04 GMT   author:   ®i©ardo

Re: Anti-BNP protesters organise rally   
®i©ardo wrote:
> kj wrote:
>> ®i©ardo wrote:
>>> kj wrote:
>>>> Maria wrote:
>>>>> On Fri, 01 Jun 2007 04:42:01 +0100, Laurie  wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Steve Greene wrote:
>>>>>>> http://www.gazetteandherald.co.uk/news/corshamheadlines/display.var.1438331.0.antibnp_protesters_organise_rally.php 
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Anti-BNP protesters will be taking to the streets of Corsham to show
>>>>>>> their anger at a member of the far-right party claiming a seat on 
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> town council.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Just attend every council meeting and note what the fuckwit says, 
>>>>>> if he shows any disrespect to people on race grounds then shove a 
>>>>>> complaint off to the Standards Board for England who will remove 
>>>>>> him from office.
>>>>>
>>>>> Indeed. Let's uphold the undemocratic standards board which can remove
>>>>> someone who was fairly and squarely elected to public office by the
>>>>> electorate.
>>>>>
>>>>> Hitler would have liked the Standards Board.
>>>> Hitler just had his Brown shirts intimidate anybody he fancied..he 
>>>> was his own Standards Board and is of course the hero of the BNP
>>>
>>> In what way? If you want a monopoly of hypocrisy try the extreme left 
>>> "Anti-Nazi" League, with their Brownshirt style gatherings at 
>>> frequent intervals here in the UK. The only difference between Hitler 
>>> and Stalin was that Hitler stopped mass murdering people in 1945.
>>>
>>> The cry from the extreme left is that "ah, but that's not REAL 
>>> communism/socialism". Yet the greatest atrocities and pogroms of the 
>>> 20th century have all been overseen by those acting in its name.
>>>
>>> I suppose that the democratic election of this councillor will set in 
>>> train a sequence of anti-democratic actions by the extreme left: as 
>>> is being proposed now with "demonstrations"- presumably "spontaneous"?
>>>
>>> Did they care enough to stand for office?
>>>
>>> What did YOU do in The great War Daddy?
>>>
>> But the BNP don't idolise Stalin and don't claim to be communist, so 
>> why would I compare them to Soviet Russia, when their hero is Hitler.
>>
> 
> We're talking about hypocrisy here - and the stance of the so called 
> Anti-Nazi League and its outright undemocratic fascist activities. Of 
> course the BNP don't idolise Stalin, why should they look to one of the 
> world's greatest mass-murderers?
> 
c'mon ..get rid of hunting but you can't get rid of BNP baiting
date: Sun, 03 Jun 2007 11:33:04 +0100   author:   kj

Re: Anti-BNP protesters organise rally   
"Frank F. Matthews"  wrote in message 
news:46619381$0$16706$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
>
>
> Jones wrote:
>>  wrote in message 
>> news:1180728247.051344.32730@u30g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...
>>
>>>>"The vast majority of people in Corsham do not want the BNP here, and
>>>>it has been inspiring to hear the comments from all the people I've
>>>>spoken to," said Mr Thornhill.>
>>>
>>>How did he get elected then?
>>
>>
>> Did any-one stand against him?
>
> The lack of an opponent is usually considered to be a sign of massive 
> support.

................................................................. or apathy?
Or a good place to sneak some-one through?
date: Sun, 03 Jun 2007 11:02:05 GMT   author:   Jones L.J@hereandnow

Re: Anti-BNP protesters organise rally   
"Jones" <L.J@hereandnow> wrote in message 
news:Ncx8i.7823$rW2.2689@newsfe7-win.ntli.net...
>
> "Frank F. Matthews"  wrote in message 
> news:46619381$0$16706$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
>>
>>
>> Jones wrote:
>>>  wrote in message 
>>> news:1180728247.051344.32730@u30g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...
>>>
>>>>>"The vast majority of people in Corsham do not want the BNP here, and
>>>>>it has been inspiring to hear the comments from all the people I've
>>>>>spoken to," said Mr Thornhill.>
>>>>
>>>>How did he get elected then?
>>>
>>>
>>> Did any-one stand against him?
>>
>> The lack of an opponent is usually considered to be a sign of massive 
>> support.
>
> ................................................................ or 
> apathy?
> Or a good place to sneak some-one through?

Since nominations are in the public domain for some weeks before the 
election, it can hardly be described as "sneaking through", simpleton.
date: Sun, 3 Jun 2007 15:20:13 +0100   author:   Chris X

Re: Anti-BNP protesters organise rally   
kj wrote:

> Maria wrote:
> >On Sat, 02 Jun 2007 13:23:17 +0100, kj  wrote:
> > 
> > > Maria wrote:
> >>>On Fri, 01 Jun 2007 04:42:01 +0100, Laurie  wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > > Steve Greene wrote:
> > > > > > http://www.gazetteandherald.co.uk/news/corshamheadlines/disp
> > > > > > lay.var.1438331.0.antibnp_protesters_organise_rally.php
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Anti-BNP protesters will be taking to the streets of
> > > > > > Corsham to show their anger at a member of the far-right
> > > > > > party claiming a seat on the town council.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > Just attend every council meeting and note what the fuckwit
> > > > > says, if he  shows any disrespect to people on race grounds
> > > > > then shove a complaint  off to the Standards Board for
> > > > > England who will remove him from office.
> > > > Indeed. Let's uphold the undemocratic standards board which can
> > > > remove someone who was fairly and squarely elected to public
> > > > office by the electorate.
> > > > 
> > > > Hitler would have liked the Standards Board.
> > > Hitler just had his Brown shirts intimidate anybody he
> > > fancied..he was  his own Standards Board and is of course the
> > > hero of the BNP
> > 
> > With the Standards Board, there is no need for anyone to intimidate
> > anybody! It has legitimised (ok legalised) the undemocratic removal
> > of elected representatives - no violence necessary.
> > At least when it was violent, a law was actually being broken and
> > someone could be held to account for it...
> > 
> SB can only remove a person for contravention of policy and
> law...thats IS democracy in a civilised world...as many BNP
> councillors have found..

And if the crafty devils actually obey the law? Then simply make more
laws, true democracy in action.

--
date: 3 Jun 2007 08:28:17 GMT   author:   joe

Re: Anti-BNP protesters organise rally   
kj wrote:
> ®i©ardo wrote:
>> kj wrote:
>>> Maria wrote:
>>>> On Fri, 01 Jun 2007 04:42:01 +0100, Laurie  wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Steve Greene wrote:
>>>>>> http://www.gazetteandherald.co.uk/news/corshamheadlines/display.var.1438331.0.antibnp_protesters_organise_rally.php 
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Anti-BNP protesters will be taking to the streets of Corsham to show
>>>>>> their anger at a member of the far-right party claiming a seat on the
>>>>>> town council.
>>>>>>
>>>>> Just attend every council meeting and note what the fuckwit says, 
>>>>> if he shows any disrespect to people on race grounds then shove a 
>>>>> complaint off to the Standards Board for England who will remove 
>>>>> him from office.
>>>>
>>>> Indeed. Let's uphold the undemocratic standards board which can remove
>>>> someone who was fairly and squarely elected to public office by the
>>>> electorate.
>>>>
>>>> Hitler would have liked the Standards Board.
>>> Hitler just had his Brown shirts intimidate anybody he fancied..he 
>>> was his own Standards Board and is of course the hero of the BNP
>>
>> In what way? If you want a monopoly of hypocrisy try the extreme left 
>> "Anti-Nazi" League, with their Brownshirt style gatherings at frequent 
>> intervals here in the UK. The only difference between Hitler and 
>> Stalin was that Hitler stopped mass murdering people in 1945.
>>
>> The cry from the extreme left is that "ah, but that's not REAL 
>> communism/socialism". Yet the greatest atrocities and pogroms of the 
>> 20th century have all been overseen by those acting in its name.
>>
>> I suppose that the democratic election of this councillor will set in 
>> train a sequence of anti-democratic actions by the extreme left: as is 
>> being proposed now with "demonstrations"- presumably "spontaneous"?
>>
>> Did they care enough to stand for office?
>>
>> What did YOU do in The great War Daddy?
>>
> But the BNP don't idolise Stalin and don't claim to be communist, so why 
> would I compare them to Soviet Russia, when their hero is Hitler.
> 

We're talking about hypocrisy here - and the stance of the so called 
Anti-Nazi League and its outright undemocratic fascist activities. Of 
course the BNP don't idolise Stalin, why should they look to one of the 
world's greatest mass-murderers?

-- 
Moving things in still pictures!
date: Sun, 03 Jun 2007 09:07:04 GMT   author:   ®i©ardo

Re: Anti-BNP protesters organise rally   
®i©ardo wrote:
> kj wrote:
>> ®i©ardo wrote:
>>> kj wrote:
>>>> Maria wrote:
>>>>> On Fri, 01 Jun 2007 04:42:01 +0100, Laurie  wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Steve Greene wrote:
>>>>>>> http://www.gazetteandherald.co.uk/news/corshamheadlines/display.var.1438331.0.antibnp_protesters_organise_rally.php 
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Anti-BNP protesters will be taking to the streets of Corsham to show
>>>>>>> their anger at a member of the far-right party claiming a seat on 
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> town council.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Just attend every council meeting and note what the fuckwit says, 
>>>>>> if he shows any disrespect to people on race grounds then shove a 
>>>>>> complaint off to the Standards Board for England who will remove 
>>>>>> him from office.
>>>>>
>>>>> Indeed. Let's uphold the undemocratic standards board which can remove
>>>>> someone who was fairly and squarely elected to public office by the
>>>>> electorate.
>>>>>
>>>>> Hitler would have liked the Standards Board.
>>>> Hitler just had his Brown shirts intimidate anybody he fancied..he 
>>>> was his own Standards Board and is of course the hero of the BNP
>>>
>>> In what way? If you want a monopoly of hypocrisy try the extreme left 
>>> "Anti-Nazi" League, with their Brownshirt style gatherings at 
>>> frequent intervals here in the UK. The only difference between Hitler 
>>> and Stalin was that Hitler stopped mass murdering people in 1945.
>>>
>>> The cry from the extreme left is that "ah, but that's not REAL 
>>> communism/socialism". Yet the greatest atrocities and pogroms of the 
>>> 20th century have all been overseen by those acting in its name.
>>>
>>> I suppose that the democratic election of this councillor will set in 
>>> train a sequence of anti-democratic actions by the extreme left: as 
>>> is being proposed now with "demonstrations"- presumably "spontaneous"?
>>>
>>> Did they care enough to stand for office?
>>>
>>> What did YOU do in The great War Daddy?
>>>
>> But the BNP don't idolise Stalin and don't claim to be communist, so 
>> why would I compare them to Soviet Russia, when their hero is Hitler.
>>
> 
> We're talking about hypocrisy here - and the stance of the so called 
> Anti-Nazi League and its outright undemocratic fascist activities. Of 
> course the BNP don't idolise Stalin, why should they look to one of the 
> world's greatest mass-murderers?
> 
c'mon ..get rid of hunting but you can't get rid of BNP baiting
date: Sun, 03 Jun 2007 11:33:04 +0100   author:   kj

Re: Anti-BNP protesters organise rally   
"Frank F. Matthews"  wrote in message 
news:46619381$0$16706$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
>
>
> Jones wrote:
>>  wrote in message 
>> news:1180728247.051344.32730@u30g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...
>>
>>>>"The vast majority of people in Corsham do not want the BNP here, and
>>>>it has been inspiring to hear the comments from all the people I've
>>>>spoken to," said Mr Thornhill.>
>>>
>>>How did he get elected then?
>>
>>
>> Did any-one stand against him?
>
> The lack of an opponent is usually considered to be a sign of massive 
> support.

................................................................. or apathy?
Or a good place to sneak some-one through?
date: Sun, 03 Jun 2007 11:02:05 GMT   author:   Jones L.J@hereandnow

Re: Anti-BNP protesters organise rally   
"Jones" <L.J@hereandnow> wrote in message 
news:Ncx8i.7823$rW2.2689@newsfe7-win.ntli.net...
>
> "Frank F. Matthews"  wrote in message 
> news:46619381$0$16706$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
>>
>>
>> Jones wrote:
>>>  wrote in message 
>>> news:1180728247.051344.32730@u30g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...
>>>
>>>>>"The vast majority of people in Corsham do not want the BNP here, and
>>>>>it has been inspiring to hear the comments from all the people I've
>>>>>spoken to," said Mr Thornhill.>
>>>>
>>>>How did he get elected then?
>>>
>>>
>>> Did any-one stand against him?
>>
>> The lack of an opponent is usually considered to be a sign of massive 
>> support.
>
> ................................................................ or 
> apathy?
> Or a good place to sneak some-one through?

Since nominations are in the public domain for some weeks before the 
election, it can hardly be described as "sneaking through", simpleton.
date: Sun, 3 Jun 2007 15:20:13 +0100   author:   Chris X

Re: Anti-BNP protesters organise rally   
kj wrote:

> Maria wrote:
> >On Sat, 02 Jun 2007 13:23:17 +0100, kj  wrote:
> > 
> > > Maria wrote:
> >>>On Fri, 01 Jun 2007 04:42:01 +0100, Laurie  wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > > Steve Greene wrote:
> > > > > > http://www.gazetteandherald.co.uk/news/corshamheadlines/disp
> > > > > > lay.var.1438331.0.antibnp_protesters_organise_rally.php
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Anti-BNP protesters will be taking to the streets of
> > > > > > Corsham to show their anger at a member of the far-right
> > > > > > party claiming a seat on the town council.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > Just attend every council meeting and note what the fuckwit
> > > > > says, if he  shows any disrespect to people on race grounds
> > > > > then shove a complaint  off to the Standards Board for
> > > > > England who will remove him from office.
> > > > Indeed. Let's uphold the undemocratic standards board which can
> > > > remove someone who was fairly and squarely elected to public
> > > > office by the electorate.
> > > > 
> > > > Hitler would have liked the Standards Board.
> > > Hitler just had his Brown shirts intimidate anybody he
> > > fancied..he was  his own Standards Board and is of course the
> > > hero of the BNP
> > 
> > With the Standards Board, there is no need for anyone to intimidate
> > anybody! It has legitimised (ok legalised) the undemocratic removal
> > of elected representatives - no violence necessary.
> > At least when it was violent, a law was actually being broken and
> > someone could be held to account for it...
> > 
> SB can only remove a person for contravention of policy and
> law...thats IS democracy in a civilised world...as many BNP
> councillors have found..

And if the crafty devils actually obey the law? Then simply make more
laws, true democracy in action.

--
date: 3 Jun 2007 08:28:17 GMT   author:   joe

Re: Anti-BNP protesters organise rally   
kj wrote:
> ®i©ardo wrote:
>> kj wrote:
>>> Maria wrote:
>>>> On Fri, 01 Jun 2007 04:42:01 +0100, Laurie  wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Steve Greene wrote:
>>>>>> http://www.gazetteandherald.co.uk/news/corshamheadlines/display.var.1438331.0.antibnp_protesters_organise_rally.php 
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Anti-BNP protesters will be taking to the streets of Corsham to show
>>>>>> their anger at a member of the far-right party claiming a seat on the
>>>>>> town council.
>>>>>>
>>>>> Just attend every council meeting and note what the fuckwit says, 
>>>>> if he shows any disrespect to people on race grounds then shove a 
>>>>> complaint off to the Standards Board for England who will remove 
>>>>> him from office.
>>>>
>>>> Indeed. Let's uphold the undemocratic standards board which can remove
>>>> someone who was fairly and squarely elected to public office by the
>>>> electorate.
>>>>
>>>> Hitler would have liked the Standards Board.
>>> Hitler just had his Brown shirts intimidate anybody he fancied..he 
>>> was his own Standards Board and is of course the hero of the BNP
>>
>> In what way? If you want a monopoly of hypocrisy try the extreme left 
>> "Anti-Nazi" League, with their Brownshirt style gatherings at frequent 
>> intervals here in the UK. The only difference between Hitler and 
>> Stalin was that Hitler stopped mass murdering people in 1945.
>>
>> The cry from the extreme left is that "ah, but that's not REAL 
>> communism/socialism". Yet the greatest atrocities and pogroms of the 
>> 20th century have all been overseen by those acting in its name.
>>
>> I suppose that the democratic election of this councillor will set in 
>> train a sequence of anti-democratic actions by the extreme left: as is 
>> being proposed now with "demonstrations"- presumably "spontaneous"?
>>
>> Did they care enough to stand for office?
>>
>> What did YOU do in The great War Daddy?
>>
> But the BNP don't idolise Stalin and don't claim to be communist, so why 
> would I compare them to Soviet Russia, when their hero is Hitler.
> 

We're talking about hypocrisy here - and the stance of the so called 
Anti-Nazi League and its outright undemocratic fascist activities. Of 
course the BNP don't idolise Stalin, why should they look to one of the 
world's greatest mass-murderers?

-- 
Moving things in still pictures!
date: Sun, 03 Jun 2007 09:07:04 GMT   author:   ®i©ardo

Re: Anti-BNP protesters organise rally   
®i©ardo wrote:
> kj wrote:
>> ®i©ardo wrote:
>>> kj wrote:
>>>> Maria wrote:
>>>>> On Fri, 01 Jun 2007 04:42:01 +0100, Laurie  wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Steve Greene wrote:
>>>>>>> http://www.gazetteandherald.co.uk/news/corshamheadlines/display.var.1438331.0.antibnp_protesters_organise_rally.php 
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Anti-BNP protesters will be taking to the streets of Corsham to show
>>>>>>> their anger at a member of the far-right party claiming a seat on 
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> town council.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Just attend every council meeting and note what the fuckwit says, 
>>>>>> if he shows any disrespect to people on race grounds then shove a 
>>>>>> complaint off to the Standards Board for England who will remove 
>>>>>> him from office.
>>>>>
>>>>> Indeed. Let's uphold the undemocratic standards board which can remove
>>>>> someone who was fairly and squarely elected to public office by the
>>>>> electorate.
>>>>>
>>>>> Hitler would have liked the Standards Board.
>>>> Hitler just had his Brown shirts intimidate anybody he fancied..he 
>>>> was his own Standards Board and is of course the hero of the BNP
>>>
>>> In what way? If you want a monopoly of hypocrisy try the extreme left 
>>> "Anti-Nazi" League, with their Brownshirt style gatherings at 
>>> frequent intervals here in the UK. The only difference between Hitler 
>>> and Stalin was that Hitler stopped mass murdering people in 1945.
>>>
>>> The cry from the extreme left is that "ah, but that's not REAL 
>>> communism/socialism". Yet the greatest atrocities and pogroms of the 
>>> 20th century have all been overseen by those acting in its name.
>>>
>>> I suppose that the democratic election of this councillor will set in 
>>> train a sequence of anti-democratic actions by the extreme left: as 
>>> is being proposed now with "demonstrations"- presumably "spontaneous"?
>>>
>>> Did they care enough to stand for office?
>>>
>>> What did YOU do in The great War Daddy?
>>>
>> But the BNP don't idolise Stalin and don't claim to be communist, so 
>> why would I compare them to Soviet Russia, when their hero is Hitler.
>>
> 
> We're talking about hypocrisy here - and the stance of the so called 
> Anti-Nazi League and its outright undemocratic fascist activities. Of 
> course the BNP don't idolise Stalin, why should they look to one of the 
> world's greatest mass-murderers?
> 
c'mon ..get rid of hunting but you can't get rid of BNP baiting
date: Sun, 03 Jun 2007 11:33:04 +0100   author:   kj

Re: Anti-BNP protesters organise rally   
"Frank F. Matthews"  wrote in message 
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>
>
> Jones wrote:
>>  wrote in message 
>> news:1180728247.051344.32730@u30g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...
>>
>>>>"The vast majority of people in Corsham do not want the BNP here, and
>>>>it has been inspiring to hear the comments from all the people I've
>>>>spoken to," said Mr Thornhill.>
>>>
>>>How did he get elected then?
>>
>>
>> Did any-one stand against him?
>
> The lack of an opponent is usually considered to be a sign of massive 
> support.

................................................................. or apathy?
Or a good place to sneak some-one through?
date: Sun, 03 Jun 2007 11:02:05 GMT   author:   Jones L.J@hereandnow

Re: Anti-BNP protesters organise rally   
"Jones" <L.J@hereandnow> wrote in message 
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>
> "Frank F. Matthews"  wrote in message 
> news:46619381$0$16706$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
>>
>>
>> Jones wrote:
>>>  wrote in message 
>>> news:1180728247.051344.32730@u30g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...
>>>
>>>>>"The vast majority of people in Corsham do not want the BNP here, and
>>>>>it has been inspiring to hear the comments from all the people I've
>>>>>spoken to," said Mr Thornhill.>
>>>>
>>>>How did he get elected then?
>>>
>>>
>>> Did any-one stand against him?
>>
>> The lack of an opponent is usually considered to be a sign of massive 
>> support.
>
> ................................................................ or 
> apathy?
> Or a good place to sneak some-one through?

Since nominations are in the public domain for some weeks before the 
election, it can hardly be described as "sneaking through", simpleton.
date: Sun, 3 Jun 2007 15:20:13 +0100   author:   Chris X

Re: Anti-BNP protesters organise rally   
kj wrote:

> Maria wrote:
> >On Sat, 02 Jun 2007 13:23:17 +0100, kj  wrote:
> > 
> > > Maria wrote:
> >>>On Fri, 01 Jun 2007 04:42:01 +0100, Laurie  wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > > Steve Greene wrote:
> > > > > > http://www.gazetteandherald.co.uk/news/corshamheadlines/disp
> > > > > > lay.var.1438331.0.antibnp_protesters_organise_rally.php
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Anti-BNP protesters will be taking to the streets of
> > > > > > Corsham to show their anger at a member of the far-right
> > > > > > party claiming a seat on the town council.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > Just attend every council meeting and note what the fuckwit
> > > > > says, if he  shows any disrespect to people on race grounds
> > > > > then shove a complaint  off to the Standards Board for
> > > > > England who will remove him from office.
> > > > Indeed. Let's uphold the undemocratic standards board which can
> > > > remove someone who was fairly and squarely elected to public
> > > > office by the electorate.
> > > > 
> > > > Hitler would have liked the Standards Board.
> > > Hitler just had his Brown shirts intimidate anybody he
> > > fancied..he was  his own Standards Board and is of course the
> > > hero of the BNP
> > 
> > With the Standards Board, there is no need for anyone to intimidate
> > anybody! It has legitimised (ok legalised) the undemocratic removal
> > of elected representatives - no violence necessary.
> > At least when it was violent, a law was actually being broken and
> > someone could be held to account for it...
> > 
> SB can only remove a person for contravention of policy and
> law...thats IS democracy in a civilised world...as many BNP
> councillors have found..

And if the crafty devils actually obey the law? Then simply make more
laws, true democracy in action.

--
date: 3 Jun 2007 08:28:17 GMT   author:   joe

Re: Anti-BNP protesters organise rally   
kj wrote:
> ®i©ardo wrote:
>> kj wrote:
>>> Maria wrote:
>>>> On Fri, 01 Jun 2007 04:42:01 +0100, Laurie  wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Steve Greene wrote:
>>>>>> http://www.gazetteandherald.co.uk/news/corshamheadlines/display.var.1438331.0.antibnp_protesters_organise_rally.php 
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Anti-BNP protesters will be taking to the streets of Corsham to show
>>>>>> their anger at a member of the far-right party claiming a seat on the
>>>>>> town council.
>>>>>>
>>>>> Just attend every council meeting and note what the fuckwit says, 
>>>>> if he shows any disrespect to people on race grounds then shove a 
>>>>> complaint off to the Standards Board for England who will remove 
>>>>> him from office.
>>>>
>>>> Indeed. Let's uphold the undemocratic standards board which can remove
>>>> someone who was fairly and squarely elected to public office by the
>>>> electorate.
>>>>
>>>> Hitler would have liked the Standards Board.
>>> Hitler just had his Brown shirts intimidate anybody he fancied..he 
>>> was his own Standards Board and is of course the hero of the BNP
>>
>> In what way? If you want a monopoly of hypocrisy try the extreme left 
>> "Anti-Nazi" League, with their Brownshirt style gatherings at frequent 
>> intervals here in the UK. The only difference between Hitler and 
>> Stalin was that Hitler stopped mass murdering people in 1945.
>>
>> The cry from the extreme left is that "ah, but that's not REAL 
>> communism/socialism". Yet the greatest atrocities and pogroms of the 
>> 20th century have all been overseen by those acting in its name.
>>
>> I suppose that the democratic election of this councillor will set in 
>> train a sequence of anti-democratic actions by the extreme left: as is 
>> being proposed now with "demonstrations"- presumably "spontaneous"?
>>
>> Did they care enough to stand for office?
>>
>> What did YOU do in The great War Daddy?
>>
> But the BNP don't idolise Stalin and don't claim to be communist, so why 
> would I compare them to Soviet Russia, when their hero is Hitler.
> 

We're talking about hypocrisy here - and the stance of the so called 
Anti-Nazi League and its outright undemocratic fascist activities. Of 
course the BNP don't idolise Stalin, why should they look to one of the 
world's greatest mass-murderers?

-- 
Moving things in still pictures!
date: Sun, 03 Jun 2007 09:07:04 GMT   author:   ®i©ardo

Re: Anti-BNP protesters organise rally   
®i©ardo wrote:
> kj wrote:
>> ®i©ardo wrote:
>>> kj wrote:
>>>> Maria wrote:
>>>>> On Fri, 01 Jun 2007 04:42:01 +0100, Laurie  wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Steve Greene wrote:
>>>>>>> http://www.gazetteandherald.co.uk/news/corshamheadlines/display.var.1438331.0.antibnp_protesters_organise_rally.php 
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Anti-BNP protesters will be taking to the streets of Corsham to show
>>>>>>> their anger at a member of the far-right party claiming a seat on 
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> town council.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Just attend every council meeting and note what the fuckwit says, 
>>>>>> if he shows any disrespect to people on race grounds then shove a 
>>>>>> complaint off to the Standards Board for England who will remove 
>>>>>> him from office.
>>>>>
>>>>> Indeed. Let's uphold the undemocratic standards board which can remove
>>>>> someone who was fairly and squarely elected to public office by the
>>>>> electorate.
>>>>>
>>>>> Hitler would have liked the Standards Board.
>>>> Hitler just had his Brown shirts intimidate anybody he fancied..he 
>>>> was his own Standards Board and is of course the hero of the BNP
>>>
>>> In what way? If you want a monopoly of hypocrisy try the extreme left 
>>> "Anti-Nazi" League, with their Brownshirt style gatherings at 
>>> frequent intervals here in the UK. The only difference between Hitler 
>>> and Stalin was that Hitler stopped mass murdering people in 1945.
>>>
>>> The cry from the extreme left is that "ah, but that's not REAL 
>>> communism/socialism". Yet the greatest atrocities and pogroms of the 
>>> 20th century have all been overseen by those acting in its name.
>>>
>>> I suppose that the democratic election of this councillor will set in 
>>> train a sequence of anti-democratic actions by the extreme left: as 
>>> is being proposed now with "demonstrations"- presumably "spontaneous"?
>>>
>>> Did they care enough to stand for office?
>>>
>>> What did YOU do in The great War Daddy?
>>>
>> But the BNP don't idolise Stalin and don't claim to be communist, so 
>> why would I compare them to Soviet Russia, when their hero is Hitler.
>>
> 
> We're talking about hypocrisy here - and the stance of the so called 
> Anti-Nazi League and its outright undemocratic fascist activities. Of 
> course the BNP don't idolise Stalin, why should they look to one of the 
> world's greatest mass-murderers?
> 
c'mon ..get rid of hunting but you can't get rid of BNP baiting
date: Sun, 03 Jun 2007 11:33:04 +0100   author:   kj

Re: Anti-BNP protesters organise rally   
"Frank F. Matthews"  wrote in message 
news:46619381$0$16706$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
>
>
> Jones wrote:
>>  wrote in message 
>> news:1180728247.051344.32730@u30g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...
>>
>>>>"The vast majority of people in Corsham do not want the BNP here, and
>>>>it has been inspiring to hear the comments from all the people I've
>>>>spoken to," said Mr Thornhill.>
>>>
>>>How did he get elected then?
>>
>>
>> Did any-one stand against him?
>
> The lack of an opponent is usually considered to be a sign of massive 
> support.

................................................................. or apathy?
Or a good place to sneak some-one through?
date: Sun, 03 Jun 2007 11:02:05 GMT   author:   Jones L.J@hereandnow

Re: Anti-BNP protesters organise rally   
"Jones" <L.J@hereandnow> wrote in message 
news:Ncx8i.7823$rW2.2689@newsfe7-win.ntli.net...
>
> "Frank F. Matthews"  wrote in message 
> news:46619381$0$16706$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
>>
>>
>> Jones wrote:
>>>  wrote in message 
>>> news:1180728247.051344.32730@u30g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...
>>>
>>>>>"The vast majority of people in Corsham do not want the BNP here, and
>>>>>it has been inspiring to hear the comments from all the people I've
>>>>>spoken to," said Mr Thornhill.>
>>>>
>>>>How did he get elected then?
>>>
>>>
>>> Did any-one stand against him?
>>
>> The lack of an opponent is usually considered to be a sign of massive 
>> support.
>
> ................................................................ or 
> apathy?
> Or a good place to sneak some-one through?

Since nominations are in the public domain for some weeks before the 
election, it can hardly be described as "sneaking through", simpleton.
date: Sun, 3 Jun 2007 15:20:13 +0100   author:   Chris X

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