http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=457002&in_page_id=1770

Forget afternoon tea, cricket on the village green, roast beef and
good manners.

Britain is suffering an identity crisis as our genteel traditions are
eroded by an obsession with TV talent shows, junk food, binge-drinking
and porn, and diluted by multiculturalism, according to a travel
guide.

It is "a telling indictment that more vote in TV talent shows than for
their country's leaders", says the latest edition of the Lonely Planet
guide to Great Britain

It adds that Britons love news of the famous "even though their
'celebrity' status is based on little more than the ability to sing a
jolly tune, look good in tight trousers or kick a ball in the right
direction".

Adding to the sense of a despair, the guide says that although some
crime rates are dropping, "vandalism and nuisance behaviour caused by
binge- drinking remain serious problems". 

And it warns that in the aftermath of the July 2005 London bombings,
"a general air of disillusion prevails", with Britons seemingly "tired
of politicians whatever their hue".

On the culinary front, the guide says: "Without doubt you can find
great food in Britain. It's just that not all the Brits seem to like
eating it."

Instead, we eat more junk food and ready meals than the rest of Europe
put together.

The guide says Britain has the world's fastest-growing market for
Internet porn.

"A survey in mid-2006 revealed 25 per cent of the UK population
downloaded images from pornographic websites," it says, adding that
nearly 1.5 million of those were women. 

The sense of turmoil about our national identity has been further
fuelled by the growing independence of Scotland and Wales, along with
the continued influx of people from around the world.

This has led the population to question whether they are British or
whether they see themselves as English, Scottish or Welsh, says the
guide, which was written by a team of nine authors from Britain,
Ireland, America and Australia.

The guide describes a cosmopolitan society which is heavily influenced
by its multicultural population and where "many are happy to revel in
this diversity".

This has meant that "it's difficult to generalise about a British
national psyche - mainly because there isn't one!"

But it also means Britain is somewhere foreign visitors can come and
feel at ease.

Lead author David Else, who is English, said: "Although Britain's had
a reputation for being multicultural for decades, this has escalated
in recent years and the impact of these different cultures has become
more significant." 

The guide says cities have been enhanced by diversity and
multiculturalism. Leicester, for example, has transformed itself into
"a vibrant, socially progressive melting pot", it says.

"It has a large and vibrant Asian community with many interesting
events staged around religious festivals such as Holi, Diwali and
Eid-ul-Fitr."

Mr Else said: "Brits are as likely to tuck into a chicken madras as a
Sunday roast, or to check out the Notting Hill carnival rather than
Trooping the Colour.

"The traditional British icons are still there, whether it be Tower
Bridge, fish and chips or cups of tea. They are all worth
experiencing. But at the same time Britain is changing.

"Everyone can find something which suits them. We need to revel in
this diversity as this is the future of Britain."

The book, on sale at £16.99 from today, says Winston Churchill remains
the best-known Briton, followed by Lord Nelson, Margaret Thatcher and
David Beckham.

Steve Greene has brought this to us :
> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=457002&in_page_id=1770
>
> Forget afternoon tea, cricket on the village green, roast beef and
> good manners.
>
> Britain is suffering an identity crisis as our genteel traditions are
> eroded by an obsession with TV talent shows, junk food, binge-drinking
> and porn, and diluted by multiculturalism, according to a travel
> guide.
>
> It is "a telling indictment that more vote in TV talent shows than for
> their country's leaders", says the latest edition of the Lonely Planet
> guide to Great Britain
>
> It adds that Britons love news of the famous "even though their
> 'celebrity' status is based on little more than the ability to sing a
> jolly tune, look good in tight trousers or kick a ball in the right
> direction".
>
> Adding to the sense of a despair, the guide says that although some
> crime rates are dropping, "vandalism and nuisance behaviour caused by
> binge- drinking remain serious problems". 
>
> And it warns that in the aftermath of the July 2005 London bombings,
> "a general air of disillusion prevails", with Britons seemingly "tired
> of politicians whatever their hue".
>
> On the culinary front, the guide says: "Without doubt you can find
> great food in Britain. It's just that not all the Brits seem to like
> eating it."
>
> Instead, we eat more junk food and ready meals than the rest of Europe
> put together.
>
> The guide says Britain has the world's fastest-growing market for
> Internet porn.
>
> "A survey in mid-2006 revealed 25 per cent of the UK population
> downloaded images from pornographic websites," it says, adding that
> nearly 1.5 million of those were women. 
>
> The sense of turmoil about our national identity has been further
> fuelled by the growing independence of Scotland and Wales, along with
> the continued influx of people from around the world.
>
> This has led the population to question whether they are British or
> whether they see themselves as English, Scottish or Welsh, says the
> guide, which was written by a team of nine authors from Britain,
> Ireland, America and Australia.
>
> The guide describes a cosmopolitan society which is heavily influenced
> by its multicultural population and where "many are happy to revel in
> this diversity".
>
> This has meant that "it's difficult to generalise about a British
> national psyche - mainly because there isn't one!"
>
> But it also means Britain is somewhere foreign visitors can come and
> feel at ease.
>
> Lead author David Else, who is English, said: "Although Britain's had
> a reputation for being multicultural for decades, this has escalated
> in recent years and the impact of these different cultures has become
> more significant." 
>
> The guide says cities have been enhanced by diversity and
> multiculturalism. Leicester, for example, has transformed itself into
> "a vibrant, socially progressive melting pot", it says.
>
> "It has a large and vibrant Asian community with many interesting
> events staged around religious festivals such as Holi, Diwali and
> Eid-ul-Fitr."
>
> Mr Else said: "Brits are as likely to tuck into a chicken madras as a
> Sunday roast, or to check out the Notting Hill carnival rather than
> Trooping the Colour.
>
> "The traditional British icons are still there, whether it be Tower
> Bridge, fish and chips or cups of tea. They are all worth
> experiencing. But at the same time Britain is changing.
>
> "Everyone can find something which suits them. We need to revel in
> this diversity as this is the future of Britain."
>
> The book, on sale at £16.99 from today, says Winston Churchill remains
> the best-known Briton, followed by Lord Nelson, Margaret Thatcher and
> David Beckham. 

We need someone of the calibre of General Franco to make Britain a 
decent place to live again.

-- 
Count Baldoni

BALDONI REX ROMANORUM

John of Aix wrote:

> > What happened to the
> > parking? They now park in the Christian cemetery and leave their
> > cars all parked in there when they go for Friday prayers so their
> > cars are not out on the street.
> 
> Goodness! I hope those buried there have made a complaint.

Why? the cemetary is for the living, not the dead. But nice of you to
show your sensitivity.

 
> > Now all the immigrants that are coming here
> > are getting housing by the local authority before people who have
> > been here for years.
> 
> You have proof that all immigrants get priority do you? You'll be
> happy to supply it then won't you?

Prove it by checking all their names and asking them?

 
> > I have personally been affected by this so no
> > one can tell me that this does not happen
> 
> You are you. 'All' is a greater quantity.

He says that to stop all the usual rubbish, as in, "no immigrants get
special treatment"

 
> > because 5 houses in the
> > street that I used to live in were taken away by the local
> > authority, mine being one of them, and given to immigrants while we
> > were all moved to towns further away, all so the members of 1
> > family could live in the same street.
> 
> So it is thus proved that 'all immigants get priority' because of
> your individual experience, the details of which we know not.

As you don't seem to know, or provide proof to the contrary, why bother
answering?
A majority of immigrants get priority housing, a possibility could be
that the British in need of housing, are usually stuck in overcrowding
in their parents house, while the immigrants are even worse, living as
normal, 10-20 to a room like they are used to in their own hovels and
mud huts.
 
> Do try and learn a little objectivity old son.

Pot, meet mr kettle.

--

> Steve Greene has brought this to us :

> We need someone of the calibre of General Franco to make Britain a
> decent place to live again.

Perhaps I've been dreaming it but it seems to me that since the death of 
Franco Spain has become a far more successful and happy place than it 
ever was under his regime. What good did this extreme right-wing 
nationalist bring? Most Spaniards remained in poverty and ignorance. Is 
that the sort of thing you want for your country?

John of Aix brought next idea :
>> Steve Greene has brought this to us :
>
>> We need someone of the calibre of General Franco to make Britain a
>> decent place to live again.
>
> Perhaps I've been dreaming it but it seems to me that since the death of 
> Franco Spain has become a far more successful and happy place than it ever 
> was under his regime. What good did this extreme right-wing nationalist 
> bring? Most Spaniards remained in poverty and ignorance. Is that the sort of 
> thing you want for your country?

It was safe to walk through the park at 19.30 when Franco was in power. 
 Britain has a rabble on the street that need sorting out and a bit of 
discipline would not go amiss.

-- 
Count Baldoni

BALDONI REX ROMANORUM

"Baldoni XXV @googlemail.com>" <baldoniXXV<nil> wrote in message 
news:mn.eced7d759ba2ceaa.74922@googlemail.co...

> It was safe to walk through the park at 19.30 when Franco was in power. 
> Britain has a rabble on the street that need sorting out and a bit of 
> discipline would not go amiss.

So it's a straight choice between a walk in the park and  freedom of 
speech...


-- 
William Black


I've seen things you people wouldn't believe.
Barbeques on fire by the chalets past the castle headland
I watched the gift shops glitter in the darkness off the Newborough gate
All these moments will be lost in time,  like icecream on the beach
Time for tea.

John of Aix wrote:
>> Steve Greene has brought this to us :
> 
>> We need someone of the calibre of General Franco to make Britain a
>> decent place to live again.
> 
> Perhaps I've been dreaming it but it seems to me that since the death of 
> Franco Spain has become a far more successful and happy place than it 
> ever was under his regime. What good did this extreme right-wing 
> nationalist bring? Most Spaniards remained in poverty and ignorance. Is 
> that the sort of thing you want for your country? 
> 
> 
I thought the prime purpose of New Labour was to reintroduce it to Britain.

-- 
Moving things in still pictures!

Steve Greene has brought this to us :
> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=457002&in_page_id=1770
>
> Forget afternoon tea, cricket on the village green, roast beef and
> good manners.
>
> Britain is suffering an identity crisis as our genteel traditions are
> eroded by an obsession with TV talent shows, junk food, binge-drinking
> and porn, and diluted by multiculturalism, according to a travel
> guide.
>
> It is "a telling indictment that more vote in TV talent shows than for
> their country's leaders", says the latest edition of the Lonely Planet
> guide to Great Britain
>
> It adds that Britons love news of the famous "even though their
> 'celebrity' status is based on little more than the ability to sing a
> jolly tune, look good in tight trousers or kick a ball in the right
> direction".
>
> Adding to the sense of a despair, the guide says that although some
> crime rates are dropping, "vandalism and nuisance behaviour caused by
> binge- drinking remain serious problems". 
>
> And it warns that in the aftermath of the July 2005 London bombings,
> "a general air of disillusion prevails", with Britons seemingly "tired
> of politicians whatever their hue".
>
> On the culinary front, the guide says: "Without doubt you can find
> great food in Britain. It's just that not all the Brits seem to like
> eating it."
>
> Instead, we eat more junk food and ready meals than the rest of Europe
> put together.
>
> The guide says Britain has the world's fastest-growing market for
> Internet porn.
>
> "A survey in mid-2006 revealed 25 per cent of the UK population
> downloaded images from pornographic websites," it says, adding that
> nearly 1.5 million of those were women. 
>
> The sense of turmoil about our national identity has been further
> fuelled by the growing independence of Scotland and Wales, along with
> the continued influx of people from around the world.
>
> This has led the population to question whether they are British or
> whether they see themselves as English, Scottish or Welsh, says the
> guide, which was written by a team of nine authors from Britain,
> Ireland, America and Australia.
>
> The guide describes a cosmopolitan society which is heavily influenced
> by its multicultural population and where "many are happy to revel in
> this diversity".
>
> This has meant that "it's difficult to generalise about a British
> national psyche - mainly because there isn't one!"
>
> But it also means Britain is somewhere foreign visitors can come and
> feel at ease.
>
> Lead author David Else, who is English, said: "Although Britain's had
> a reputation for being multicultural for decades, this has escalated
> in recent years and the impact of these different cultures has become
> more significant." 
>
> The guide says cities have been enhanced by diversity and
> multiculturalism. Leicester, for example, has transformed itself into
> "a vibrant, socially progressive melting pot", it says.
>
> "It has a large and vibrant Asian community with many interesting
> events staged around religious festivals such as Holi, Diwali and
> Eid-ul-Fitr."
>
> Mr Else said: "Brits are as likely to tuck into a chicken madras as a
> Sunday roast, or to check out the Notting Hill carnival rather than
> Trooping the Colour.
>
> "The traditional British icons are still there, whether it be Tower
> Bridge, fish and chips or cups of tea. They are all worth
> experiencing. But at the same time Britain is changing.
>
> "Everyone can find something which suits them. We need to revel in
> this diversity as this is the future of Britain."
>
> The book, on sale at £16.99 from today, says Winston Churchill remains
> the best-known Briton, followed by Lord Nelson, Margaret Thatcher and
> David Beckham. 

We need someone of the calibre of General Franco to make Britain a 
decent place to live again.

-- 
Count Baldoni

BALDONI REX ROMANORUM

John of Aix wrote:

> > What happened to the
> > parking? They now park in the Christian cemetery and leave their
> > cars all parked in there when they go for Friday prayers so their
> > cars are not out on the street.
> 
> Goodness! I hope those buried there have made a complaint.

Why? the cemetary is for the living, not the dead. But nice of you to
show your sensitivity.

 
> > Now all the immigrants that are coming here
> > are getting housing by the local authority before people who have
> > been here for years.
> 
> You have proof that all immigrants get priority do you? You'll be
> happy to supply it then won't you?

Prove it by checking all their names and asking them?

 
> > I have personally been affected by this so no
> > one can tell me that this does not happen
> 
> You are you. 'All' is a greater quantity.

He says that to stop all the usual rubbish, as in, "no immigrants get
special treatment"

 
> > because 5 houses in the
> > street that I used to live in were taken away by the local
> > authority, mine being one of them, and given to immigrants while we
> > were all moved to towns further away, all so the members of 1
> > family could live in the same street.
> 
> So it is thus proved that 'all immigants get priority' because of
> your individual experience, the details of which we know not.

As you don't seem to know, or provide proof to the contrary, why bother
answering?
A majority of immigrants get priority housing, a possibility could be
that the British in need of housing, are usually stuck in overcrowding
in their parents house, while the immigrants are even worse, living as
normal, 10-20 to a room like they are used to in their own hovels and
mud huts.
 
> Do try and learn a little objectivity old son.

Pot, meet mr kettle.

--

> Steve Greene has brought this to us :

> We need someone of the calibre of General Franco to make Britain a
> decent place to live again.

Perhaps I've been dreaming it but it seems to me that since the death of 
Franco Spain has become a far more successful and happy place than it 
ever was under his regime. What good did this extreme right-wing 
nationalist bring? Most Spaniards remained in poverty and ignorance. Is 
that the sort of thing you want for your country?

John of Aix brought next idea :
>> Steve Greene has brought this to us :
>
>> We need someone of the calibre of General Franco to make Britain a
>> decent place to live again.
>
> Perhaps I've been dreaming it but it seems to me that since the death of 
> Franco Spain has become a far more successful and happy place than it ever 
> was under his regime. What good did this extreme right-wing nationalist 
> bring? Most Spaniards remained in poverty and ignorance. Is that the sort of 
> thing you want for your country?

It was safe to walk through the park at 19.30 when Franco was in power. 
 Britain has a rabble on the street that need sorting out and a bit of 
discipline would not go amiss.

-- 
Count Baldoni

BALDONI REX ROMANORUM

"Baldoni XXV @googlemail.com>" <baldoniXXV<nil> wrote in message 
news:mn.eced7d759ba2ceaa.74922@googlemail.co...

> It was safe to walk through the park at 19.30 when Franco was in power. 
> Britain has a rabble on the street that need sorting out and a bit of 
> discipline would not go amiss.

So it's a straight choice between a walk in the park and  freedom of 
speech...


-- 
William Black


I've seen things you people wouldn't believe.
Barbeques on fire by the chalets past the castle headland
I watched the gift shops glitter in the darkness off the Newborough gate
All these moments will be lost in time,  like icecream on the beach
Time for tea.

John of Aix wrote:
>> Steve Greene has brought this to us :
> 
>> We need someone of the calibre of General Franco to make Britain a
>> decent place to live again.
> 
> Perhaps I've been dreaming it but it seems to me that since the death of 
> Franco Spain has become a far more successful and happy place than it 
> ever was under his regime. What good did this extreme right-wing 
> nationalist bring? Most Spaniards remained in poverty and ignorance. Is 
> that the sort of thing you want for your country? 
> 
> 
I thought the prime purpose of New Labour was to reintroduce it to Britain.

-- 
Moving things in still pictures!

"William Black"  wrote in message 
news:cPU6i.11053$xU4.6998@newsfe1-gui.ntli.net...
>
> "Billy who?"  wrote in message 
> news:sbOdnT3XHJpOi8HbnZ2dnUVZ8vSdnZ2d@eclipse.net.uk...
>
> why
>> can't the queen order the army in?
>
> Because she doesn't pay for it.
>
> Parliament does...
>
> And over 350 years ago they cut the head off the king who tried to change 
> that...

What with a knife?

>
> -- 
> William Black
>
>
> I've seen things you people wouldn't believe.
> Barbeques on fire by the chalets past the castle headland
> I watched the gift shops glitter in the darkness off the Newborough gate
> All these moments will be lost in time,  like icecream on the beach
> Time for tea.
>
>
>
>

Lord Turkey Cough wrote:
> "William Black"  wrote in message 
> news:cPU6i.11053$xU4.6998@newsfe1-gui.ntli.net...

>>"Billy who?"  wrote in message 
>>news:sbOdnT3XHJpOi8HbnZ2dnUVZ8vSdnZ2d@eclipse.net.uk...

>>why

>>>can't the queen order the army in?

>>Because she doesn't pay for it.

>>Parliament does...

>>And over 350 years ago they cut the head off the king who tried to change 
>>that...

> What with a knife?

In a quick review probably an ax.  Unlikely, but possibly, a sword.

> 
>>-- 
>>William Black
>>
>>

Steve Greene has brought this to us :
> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=457002&in_page_id=1770
>
> Forget afternoon tea, cricket on the village green, roast beef and
> good manners.
>
> Britain is suffering an identity crisis as our genteel traditions are
> eroded by an obsession with TV talent shows, junk food, binge-drinking
> and porn, and diluted by multiculturalism, according to a travel
> guide.
>
> It is "a telling indictment that more vote in TV talent shows than for
> their country's leaders", says the latest edition of the Lonely Planet
> guide to Great Britain
>
> It adds that Britons love news of the famous "even though their
> 'celebrity' status is based on little more than the ability to sing a
> jolly tune, look good in tight trousers or kick a ball in the right
> direction".
>
> Adding to the sense of a despair, the guide says that although some
> crime rates are dropping, "vandalism and nuisance behaviour caused by
> binge- drinking remain serious problems". 
>
> And it warns that in the aftermath of the July 2005 London bombings,
> "a general air of disillusion prevails", with Britons seemingly "tired
> of politicians whatever their hue".
>
> On the culinary front, the guide says: "Without doubt you can find
> great food in Britain. It's just that not all the Brits seem to like
> eating it."
>
> Instead, we eat more junk food and ready meals than the rest of Europe
> put together.
>
> The guide says Britain has the world's fastest-growing market for
> Internet porn.
>
> "A survey in mid-2006 revealed 25 per cent of the UK population
> downloaded images from pornographic websites," it says, adding that
> nearly 1.5 million of those were women. 
>
> The sense of turmoil about our national identity has been further
> fuelled by the growing independence of Scotland and Wales, along with
> the continued influx of people from around the world.
>
> This has led the population to question whether they are British or
> whether they see themselves as English, Scottish or Welsh, says the
> guide, which was written by a team of nine authors from Britain,
> Ireland, America and Australia.
>
> The guide describes a cosmopolitan society which is heavily influenced
> by its multicultural population and where "many are happy to revel in
> this diversity".
>
> This has meant that "it's difficult to generalise about a British
> national psyche - mainly because there isn't one!"
>
> But it also means Britain is somewhere foreign visitors can come and
> feel at ease.
>
> Lead author David Else, who is English, said: "Although Britain's had
> a reputation for being multicultural for decades, this has escalated
> in recent years and the impact of these different cultures has become
> more significant." 
>
> The guide says cities have been enhanced by diversity and
> multiculturalism. Leicester, for example, has transformed itself into
> "a vibrant, socially progressive melting pot", it says.
>
> "It has a large and vibrant Asian community with many interesting
> events staged around religious festivals such as Holi, Diwali and
> Eid-ul-Fitr."
>
> Mr Else said: "Brits are as likely to tuck into a chicken madras as a
> Sunday roast, or to check out the Notting Hill carnival rather than
> Trooping the Colour.
>
> "The traditional British icons are still there, whether it be Tower
> Bridge, fish and chips or cups of tea. They are all worth
> experiencing. But at the same time Britain is changing.
>
> "Everyone can find something which suits them. We need to revel in
> this diversity as this is the future of Britain."
>
> The book, on sale at £16.99 from today, says Winston Churchill remains
> the best-known Briton, followed by Lord Nelson, Margaret Thatcher and
> David Beckham. 

We need someone of the calibre of General Franco to make Britain a 
decent place to live again.

-- 
Count Baldoni

BALDONI REX ROMANORUM

John of Aix wrote:

> > What happened to the
> > parking? They now park in the Christian cemetery and leave their
> > cars all parked in there when they go for Friday prayers so their
> > cars are not out on the street.
> 
> Goodness! I hope those buried there have made a complaint.

Why? the cemetary is for the living, not the dead. But nice of you to
show your sensitivity.

 
> > Now all the immigrants that are coming here
> > are getting housing by the local authority before people who have
> > been here for years.
> 
> You have proof that all immigrants get priority do you? You'll be
> happy to supply it then won't you?

Prove it by checking all their names and asking them?

 
> > I have personally been affected by this so no
> > one can tell me that this does not happen
> 
> You are you. 'All' is a greater quantity.

He says that to stop all the usual rubbish, as in, "no immigrants get
special treatment"

 
> > because 5 houses in the
> > street that I used to live in were taken away by the local
> > authority, mine being one of them, and given to immigrants while we
> > were all moved to towns further away, all so the members of 1
> > family could live in the same street.
> 
> So it is thus proved that 'all immigants get priority' because of
> your individual experience, the details of which we know not.

As you don't seem to know, or provide proof to the contrary, why bother
answering?
A majority of immigrants get priority housing, a possibility could be
that the British in need of housing, are usually stuck in overcrowding
in their parents house, while the immigrants are even worse, living as
normal, 10-20 to a room like they are used to in their own hovels and
mud huts.
 
> Do try and learn a little objectivity old son.

Pot, meet mr kettle.

--

> Steve Greene has brought this to us :

> We need someone of the calibre of General Franco to make Britain a
> decent place to live again.

Perhaps I've been dreaming it but it seems to me that since the death of 
Franco Spain has become a far more successful and happy place than it 
ever was under his regime. What good did this extreme right-wing 
nationalist bring? Most Spaniards remained in poverty and ignorance. Is 
that the sort of thing you want for your country?

John of Aix brought next idea :
>> Steve Greene has brought this to us :
>
>> We need someone of the calibre of General Franco to make Britain a
>> decent place to live again.
>
> Perhaps I've been dreaming it but it seems to me that since the death of 
> Franco Spain has become a far more successful and happy place than it ever 
> was under his regime. What good did this extreme right-wing nationalist 
> bring? Most Spaniards remained in poverty and ignorance. Is that the sort of 
> thing you want for your country?

It was safe to walk through the park at 19.30 when Franco was in power. 
 Britain has a rabble on the street that need sorting out and a bit of 
discipline would not go amiss.

-- 
Count Baldoni

BALDONI REX ROMANORUM

"Baldoni XXV @googlemail.com>" <baldoniXXV<nil> wrote in message 
news:mn.eced7d759ba2ceaa.74922@googlemail.co...

> It was safe to walk through the park at 19.30 when Franco was in power. 
> Britain has a rabble on the street that need sorting out and a bit of 
> discipline would not go amiss.

So it's a straight choice between a walk in the park and  freedom of 
speech...


-- 
William Black


I've seen things you people wouldn't believe.
Barbeques on fire by the chalets past the castle headland
I watched the gift shops glitter in the darkness off the Newborough gate
All these moments will be lost in time,  like icecream on the beach
Time for tea.

John of Aix wrote:
>> Steve Greene has brought this to us :
> 
>> We need someone of the calibre of General Franco to make Britain a
>> decent place to live again.
> 
> Perhaps I've been dreaming it but it seems to me that since the death of 
> Franco Spain has become a far more successful and happy place than it 
> ever was under his regime. What good did this extreme right-wing 
> nationalist bring? Most Spaniards remained in poverty and ignorance. Is 
> that the sort of thing you want for your country? 
> 
> 
I thought the prime purpose of New Labour was to reintroduce it to Britain.

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>
> "Billy who?"  wrote in message 
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>
> why
>> can't the queen order the army in?
>
> Because she doesn't pay for it.
>
> Parliament does...
>
> And over 350 years ago they cut the head off the king who tried to change 
> that...

What with a knife?

>
> -- 
> William Black
>
>
> I've seen things you people wouldn't believe.
> Barbeques on fire by the chalets past the castle headland
> I watched the gift shops glitter in the darkness off the Newborough gate
> All these moments will be lost in time,  like icecream on the beach
> Time for tea.
>
>
>
>

Lord Turkey Cough wrote:
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>>"Billy who?"  wrote in message 
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>>why

>>>can't the queen order the army in?

>>Because she doesn't pay for it.

>>Parliament does...

>>And over 350 years ago they cut the head off the king who tried to change 
>>that...

> What with a knife?

In a quick review probably an ax.  Unlikely, but possibly, a sword.

> 
>>-- 
>>William Black
>>
>>

Steve Greene has brought this to us :
> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=457002&in_page_id=1770
>
> Forget afternoon tea, cricket on the village green, roast beef and
> good manners.
>
> Britain is suffering an identity crisis as our genteel traditions are
> eroded by an obsession with TV talent shows, junk food, binge-drinking
> and porn, and diluted by multiculturalism, according to a travel
> guide.
>
> It is "a telling indictment that more vote in TV talent shows than for
> their country's leaders", says the latest edition of the Lonely Planet
> guide to Great Britain
>
> It adds that Britons love news of the famous "even though their
> 'celebrity' status is based on little more than the ability to sing a
> jolly tune, look good in tight trousers or kick a ball in the right
> direction".
>
> Adding to the sense of a despair, the guide says that although some
> crime rates are dropping, "vandalism and nuisance behaviour caused by
> binge- drinking remain serious problems". 
>
> And it warns that in the aftermath of the July 2005 London bombings,
> "a general air of disillusion prevails", with Britons seemingly "tired
> of politicians whatever their hue".
>
> On the culinary front, the guide says: "Without doubt you can find
> great food in Britain. It's just that not all the Brits seem to like
> eating it."
>
> Instead, we eat more junk food and ready meals than the rest of Europe
> put together.
>
> The guide says Britain has the world's fastest-growing market for
> Internet porn.
>
> "A survey in mid-2006 revealed 25 per cent of the UK population
> downloaded images from pornographic websites," it says, adding that
> nearly 1.5 million of those were women. 
>
> The sense of turmoil about our national identity has been further
> fuelled by the growing independence of Scotland and Wales, along with
> the continued influx of people from around the world.
>
> This has led the population to question whether they are British or
> whether they see themselves as English, Scottish or Welsh, says the
> guide, which was written by a team of nine authors from Britain,
> Ireland, America and Australia.
>
> The guide describes a cosmopolitan society which is heavily influenced
> by its multicultural population and where "many are happy to revel in
> this diversity".
>
> This has meant that "it's difficult to generalise about a British
> national psyche - mainly because there isn't one!"
>
> But it also means Britain is somewhere foreign visitors can come and
> feel at ease.
>
> Lead author David Else, who is English, said: "Although Britain's had
> a reputation for being multicultural for decades, this has escalated
> in recent years and the impact of these different cultures has become
> more significant." 
>
> The guide says cities have been enhanced by diversity and
> multiculturalism. Leicester, for example, has transformed itself into
> "a vibrant, socially progressive melting pot", it says.
>
> "It has a large and vibrant Asian community with many interesting
> events staged around religious festivals such as Holi, Diwali and
> Eid-ul-Fitr."
>
> Mr Else said: "Brits are as likely to tuck into a chicken madras as a
> Sunday roast, or to check out the Notting Hill carnival rather than
> Trooping the Colour.
>
> "The traditional British icons are still there, whether it be Tower
> Bridge, fish and chips or cups of tea. They are all worth
> experiencing. But at the same time Britain is changing.
>
> "Everyone can find something which suits them. We need to revel in
> this diversity as this is the future of Britain."
>
> The book, on sale at £16.99 from today, says Winston Churchill remains
> the best-known Briton, followed by Lord Nelson, Margaret Thatcher and
> David Beckham. 

We need someone of the calibre of General Franco to make Britain a 
decent place to live again.

-- 
Count Baldoni

BALDONI REX ROMANORUM

John of Aix wrote:

> > What happened to the
> > parking? They now park in the Christian cemetery and leave their
> > cars all parked in there when they go for Friday prayers so their
> > cars are not out on the street.
> 
> Goodness! I hope those buried there have made a complaint.

Why? the cemetary is for the living, not the dead. But nice of you to
show your sensitivity.

 
> > Now all the immigrants that are coming here
> > are getting housing by the local authority before people who have
> > been here for years.
> 
> You have proof that all immigrants get priority do you? You'll be
> happy to supply it then won't you?

Prove it by checking all their names and asking them?

 
> > I have personally been affected by this so no
> > one can tell me that this does not happen
> 
> You are you. 'All' is a greater quantity.

He says that to stop all the usual rubbish, as in, "no immigrants get
special treatment"

 
> > because 5 houses in the
> > street that I used to live in were taken away by the local
> > authority, mine being one of them, and given to immigrants while we
> > were all moved to towns further away, all so the members of 1
> > family could live in the same street.
> 
> So it is thus proved that 'all immigants get priority' because of
> your individual experience, the details of which we know not.

As you don't seem to know, or provide proof to the contrary, why bother
answering?
A majority of immigrants get priority housing, a possibility could be
that the British in need of housing, are usually stuck in overcrowding
in their parents house, while the immigrants are even worse, living as
normal, 10-20 to a room like they are used to in their own hovels and
mud huts.
 
> Do try and learn a little objectivity old son.

Pot, meet mr kettle.

--

> Steve Greene has brought this to us :

> We need someone of the calibre of General Franco to make Britain a
> decent place to live again.

Perhaps I've been dreaming it but it seems to me that since the death of 
Franco Spain has become a far more successful and happy place than it 
ever was under his regime. What good did this extreme right-wing 
nationalist bring? Most Spaniards remained in poverty and ignorance. Is 
that the sort of thing you want for your country?

John of Aix brought next idea :
>> Steve Greene has brought this to us :
>
>> We need someone of the calibre of General Franco to make Britain a
>> decent place to live again.
>
> Perhaps I've been dreaming it but it seems to me that since the death of 
> Franco Spain has become a far more successful and happy place than it ever 
> was under his regime. What good did this extreme right-wing nationalist 
> bring? Most Spaniards remained in poverty and ignorance. Is that the sort of 
> thing you want for your country?

It was safe to walk through the park at 19.30 when Franco was in power. 
 Britain has a rabble on the street that need sorting out and a bit of 
discipline would not go amiss.

-- 
Count Baldoni

BALDONI REX ROMANORUM

"Baldoni XXV @googlemail.com>" <baldoniXXV<nil> wrote in message 
news:mn.eced7d759ba2ceaa.74922@googlemail.co...

> It was safe to walk through the park at 19.30 when Franco was in power. 
> Britain has a rabble on the street that need sorting out and a bit of 
> discipline would not go amiss.

So it's a straight choice between a walk in the park and  freedom of 
speech...


-- 
William Black


I've seen things you people wouldn't believe.
Barbeques on fire by the chalets past the castle headland
I watched the gift shops glitter in the darkness off the Newborough gate
All these moments will be lost in time,  like icecream on the beach
Time for tea.

John of Aix wrote:
>> Steve Greene has brought this to us :
> 
>> We need someone of the calibre of General Franco to make Britain a
>> decent place to live again.
> 
> Perhaps I've been dreaming it but it seems to me that since the death of 
> Franco Spain has become a far more successful and happy place than it 
> ever was under his regime. What good did this extreme right-wing 
> nationalist bring? Most Spaniards remained in poverty and ignorance. Is 
> that the sort of thing you want for your country? 
> 
> 
I thought the prime purpose of New Labour was to reintroduce it to Britain.

-- 
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"William Black"  wrote in message 
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>
> "Billy who?"  wrote in message 
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>
> why
>> can't the queen order the army in?
>
> Because she doesn't pay for it.
>
> Parliament does...
>
> And over 350 years ago they cut the head off the king who tried to change 
> that...

What with a knife?

>
> -- 
> William Black
>
>
> I've seen things you people wouldn't believe.
> Barbeques on fire by the chalets past the castle headland
> I watched the gift shops glitter in the darkness off the Newborough gate
> All these moments will be lost in time,  like icecream on the beach
> Time for tea.
>
>
>
>

Lord Turkey Cough wrote:
> "William Black"  wrote in message 
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>>"Billy who?"  wrote in message 
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>>why

>>>can't the queen order the army in?

>>Because she doesn't pay for it.

>>Parliament does...

>>And over 350 years ago they cut the head off the king who tried to change 
>>that...

> What with a knife?

In a quick review probably an ax.  Unlikely, but possibly, a sword.

> 
>>-- 
>>William Black
>>
>>

"Frank F. Matthews"  wrote in message 
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>
>
> Lord Turkey Cough wrote:
>> "William Black"  wrote in message 
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>
>>>"Billy who?"  wrote in message 
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>
>>>why
>
>>>>can't the queen order the army in?
>
>>>Because she doesn't pay for it.
>
>>>Parliament does...
>
>>>And over 350 years ago they cut the head off the king who tried to change 
>>>that...
>
>> What with a knife?
>
> In a quick review probably an ax.  Unlikely, but possibly, a sword.

The picture shows a short-handled broad-bladed axe.

-- 
William Black


I've seen things you people wouldn't believe.
Barbeques on fire by the chalets past the castle headland
I watched the gift shops glitter in the darkness off the Newborough gate
All these moments will be lost in time,  like icecream on the beach
Time for tea.

William Black wrote:

> "Frank F. Matthews"  wrote in message 
> news:465ce616$0$30610$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
> 
>>
>>Lord Turkey Cough wrote:
>>
>>>"William Black"  wrote in message 
>>>news:cPU6i.11053$xU4.6998@newsfe1-gui.ntli.net...
>>
>>>>"Billy who?"  wrote in message 
>>>>news:sbOdnT3XHJpOi8HbnZ2dnUVZ8vSdnZ2d@eclipse.net.uk...
>>
>>>>why
>>
>>>>>can't the queen order the army in?
>>
>>>>Because she doesn't pay for it.
>>
>>>>Parliament does...
>>
>>>>And over 350 years ago they cut the head off the king who tried to change 
>>>>that...
>>
>>>What with a knife?
>>
>>In a quick review probably an ax.  Unlikely, but possibly, a sword.

> The picture shows a short-handled broad-bladed axe.


Alas it is simply an interpretation.  I will admit I didn't bother 
looking at how close to the event it was produced but even if fairly 
contemporary it is simply a depiction.  It is not unknown for 'pictures' 
to be produced by someone who wasn't present.

Steve Greene has brought this to us :
> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=457002&in_page_id=1770
>
> Forget afternoon tea, cricket on the village green, roast beef and
> good manners.
>
> Britain is suffering an identity crisis as our genteel traditions are
> eroded by an obsession with TV talent shows, junk food, binge-drinking
> and porn, and diluted by multiculturalism, according to a travel
> guide.
>
> It is "a telling indictment that more vote in TV talent shows than for
> their country's leaders", says the latest edition of the Lonely Planet
> guide to Great Britain
>
> It adds that Britons love news of the famous "even though their
> 'celebrity' status is based on little more than the ability to sing a
> jolly tune, look good in tight trousers or kick a ball in the right
> direction".
>
> Adding to the sense of a despair, the guide says that although some
> crime rates are dropping, "vandalism and nuisance behaviour caused by
> binge- drinking remain serious problems". 
>
> And it warns that in the aftermath of the July 2005 London bombings,
> "a general air of disillusion prevails", with Britons seemingly "tired
> of politicians whatever their hue".
>
> On the culinary front, the guide says: "Without doubt you can find
> great food in Britain. It's just that not all the Brits seem to like
> eating it."
>
> Instead, we eat more junk food and ready meals than the rest of Europe
> put together.
>
> The guide says Britain has the world's fastest-growing market for
> Internet porn.
>
> "A survey in mid-2006 revealed 25 per cent of the UK population
> downloaded images from pornographic websites," it says, adding that
> nearly 1.5 million of those were women. 
>
> The sense of turmoil about our national identity has been further
> fuelled by the growing independence of Scotland and Wales, along with
> the continued influx of people from around the world.
>
> This has led the population to question whether they are British or
> whether they see themselves as English, Scottish or Welsh, says the
> guide, which was written by a team of nine authors from Britain,
> Ireland, America and Australia.
>
> The guide describes a cosmopolitan society which is heavily influenced
> by its multicultural population and where "many are happy to revel in
> this diversity".
>
> This has meant that "it's difficult to generalise about a British
> national psyche - mainly because there isn't one!"
>
> But it also means Britain is somewhere foreign visitors can come and
> feel at ease.
>
> Lead author David Else, who is English, said: "Although Britain's had
> a reputation for being multicultural for decades, this has escalated
> in recent years and the impact of these different cultures has become
> more significant." 
>
> The guide says cities have been enhanced by diversity and
> multiculturalism. Leicester, for example, has transformed itself into
> "a vibrant, socially progressive melting pot", it says.
>
> "It has a large and vibrant Asian community with many interesting
> events staged around religious festivals such as Holi, Diwali and
> Eid-ul-Fitr."
>
> Mr Else said: "Brits are as likely to tuck into a chicken madras as a
> Sunday roast, or to check out the Notting Hill carnival rather than
> Trooping the Colour.
>
> "The traditional British icons are still there, whether it be Tower
> Bridge, fish and chips or cups of tea. They are all worth
> experiencing. But at the same time Britain is changing.
>
> "Everyone can find something which suits them. We need to revel in
> this diversity as this is the future of Britain."
>
> The book, on sale at £16.99 from today, says Winston Churchill remains
> the best-known Briton, followed by Lord Nelson, Margaret Thatcher and
> David Beckham. 

We need someone of the calibre of General Franco to make Britain a 
decent place to live again.

-- 
Count Baldoni

BALDONI REX ROMANORUM

John of Aix wrote:

> > What happened to the
> > parking? They now park in the Christian cemetery and leave their
> > cars all parked in there when they go for Friday prayers so their
> > cars are not out on the street.
> 
> Goodness! I hope those buried there have made a complaint.

Why? the cemetary is for the living, not the dead. But nice of you to
show your sensitivity.

 
> > Now all the immigrants that are coming here
> > are getting housing by the local authority before people who have
> > been here for years.
> 
> You have proof that all immigrants get priority do you? You'll be
> happy to supply it then won't you?

Prove it by checking all their names and asking them?

 
> > I have personally been affected by this so no
> > one can tell me that this does not happen
> 
> You are you. 'All' is a greater quantity.

He says that to stop all the usual rubbish, as in, "no immigrants get
special treatment"

 
> > because 5 houses in the
> > street that I used to live in were taken away by the local
> > authority, mine being one of them, and given to immigrants while we
> > were all moved to towns further away, all so the members of 1
> > family could live in the same street.
> 
> So it is thus proved that 'all immigants get priority' because of
> your individual experience, the details of which we know not.

As you don't seem to know, or provide proof to the contrary, why bother
answering?
A majority of immigrants get priority housing, a possibility could be
that the British in need of housing, are usually stuck in overcrowding
in their parents house, while the immigrants are even worse, living as
normal, 10-20 to a room like they are used to in their own hovels and
mud huts.
 
> Do try and learn a little objectivity old son.

Pot, meet mr kettle.

--

> Steve Greene has brought this to us :

> We need someone of the calibre of General Franco to make Britain a
> decent place to live again.

Perhaps I've been dreaming it but it seems to me that since the death of 
Franco Spain has become a far more successful and happy place than it 
ever was under his regime. What good did this extreme right-wing 
nationalist bring? Most Spaniards remained in poverty and ignorance. Is 
that the sort of thing you want for your country?

John of Aix brought next idea :
>> Steve Greene has brought this to us :
>
>> We need someone of the calibre of General Franco to make Britain a
>> decent place to live again.
>
> Perhaps I've been dreaming it but it seems to me that since the death of 
> Franco Spain has become a far more successful and happy place than it ever 
> was under his regime. What good did this extreme right-wing nationalist 
> bring? Most Spaniards remained in poverty and ignorance. Is that the sort of 
> thing you want for your country?

It was safe to walk through the park at 19.30 when Franco was in power. 
 Britain has a rabble on the street that need sorting out and a bit of 
discipline would not go amiss.

-- 
Count Baldoni

BALDONI REX ROMANORUM

"Baldoni XXV @googlemail.com>" <baldoniXXV<nil> wrote in message 
news:mn.eced7d759ba2ceaa.74922@googlemail.co...

> It was safe to walk through the park at 19.30 when Franco was in power. 
> Britain has a rabble on the street that need sorting out and a bit of 
> discipline would not go amiss.

So it's a straight choice between a walk in the park and  freedom of 
speech...


-- 
William Black


I've seen things you people wouldn't believe.
Barbeques on fire by the chalets past the castle headland
I watched the gift shops glitter in the darkness off the Newborough gate
All these moments will be lost in time,  like icecream on the beach
Time for tea.

John of Aix wrote:
>> Steve Greene has brought this to us :
> 
>> We need someone of the calibre of General Franco to make Britain a
>> decent place to live again.
> 
> Perhaps I've been dreaming it but it seems to me that since the death of 
> Franco Spain has become a far more successful and happy place than it 
> ever was under his regime. What good did this extreme right-wing 
> nationalist bring? Most Spaniards remained in poverty and ignorance. Is 
> that the sort of thing you want for your country? 
> 
> 
I thought the prime purpose of New Labour was to reintroduce it to Britain.

-- 
Moving things in still pictures!

"William Black"  wrote in message 
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>
> "Billy who?"  wrote in message 
> news:sbOdnT3XHJpOi8HbnZ2dnUVZ8vSdnZ2d@eclipse.net.uk...
>
> why
>> can't the queen order the army in?
>
> Because she doesn't pay for it.
>
> Parliament does...
>
> And over 350 years ago they cut the head off the king who tried to change 
> that...

What with a knife?

>
> -- 
> William Black
>
>
> I've seen things you people wouldn't believe.
> Barbeques on fire by the chalets past the castle headland
> I watched the gift shops glitter in the darkness off the Newborough gate
> All these moments will be lost in time,  like icecream on the beach
> Time for tea.
>
>
>
>

Lord Turkey Cough wrote:
> "William Black"  wrote in message 
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>>"Billy who?"  wrote in message 
>>news:sbOdnT3XHJpOi8HbnZ2dnUVZ8vSdnZ2d@eclipse.net.uk...

>>why

>>>can't the queen order the army in?

>>Because she doesn't pay for it.

>>Parliament does...

>>And over 350 years ago they cut the head off the king who tried to change 
>>that...

> What with a knife?

In a quick review probably an ax.  Unlikely, but possibly, a sword.

> 
>>-- 
>>William Black
>>
>>

"Frank F. Matthews"  wrote in message 
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>
>
> Lord Turkey Cough wrote:
>> "William Black"  wrote in message 
>> news:cPU6i.11053$xU4.6998@newsfe1-gui.ntli.net...
>
>>>"Billy who?"  wrote in message 
>>>news:sbOdnT3XHJpOi8HbnZ2dnUVZ8vSdnZ2d@eclipse.net.uk...
>
>>>why
>
>>>>can't the queen order the army in?
>
>>>Because she doesn't pay for it.
>
>>>Parliament does...
>
>>>And over 350 years ago they cut the head off the king who tried to change 
>>>that...
>
>> What with a knife?
>
> In a quick review probably an ax.  Unlikely, but possibly, a sword.

The picture shows a short-handled broad-bladed axe.

-- 
William Black


I've seen things you people wouldn't believe.
Barbeques on fire by the chalets past the castle headland
I watched the gift shops glitter in the darkness off the Newborough gate
All these moments will be lost in time,  like icecream on the beach
Time for tea.

William Black wrote:

> "Frank F. Matthews"  wrote in message 
> news:465ce616$0$30610$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
> 
>>
>>Lord Turkey Cough wrote:
>>
>>>"William Black"  wrote in message 
>>>news:cPU6i.11053$xU4.6998@newsfe1-gui.ntli.net...
>>
>>>>"Billy who?"  wrote in message 
>>>>news:sbOdnT3XHJpOi8HbnZ2dnUVZ8vSdnZ2d@eclipse.net.uk...
>>
>>>>why
>>
>>>>>can't the queen order the army in?
>>
>>>>Because she doesn't pay for it.
>>
>>>>Parliament does...
>>
>>>>And over 350 years ago they cut the head off the king who tried to change 
>>>>that...
>>
>>>What with a knife?
>>
>>In a quick review probably an ax.  Unlikely, but possibly, a sword.

> The picture shows a short-handled broad-bladed axe.


Alas it is simply an interpretation.  I will admit I didn't bother 
looking at how close to the event it was produced but even if fairly 
contemporary it is simply a depiction.  It is not unknown for 'pictures' 
to be produced by someone who wasn't present.

Steve Greene has brought this to us :
> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=457002&in_page_id=1770
>
> Forget afternoon tea, cricket on the village green, roast beef and
> good manners.
>
> Britain is suffering an identity crisis as our genteel traditions are
> eroded by an obsession with TV talent shows, junk food, binge-drinking
> and porn, and diluted by multiculturalism, according to a travel
> guide.
>
> It is "a telling indictment that more vote in TV talent shows than for
> their country's leaders", says the latest edition of the Lonely Planet
> guide to Great Britain
>
> It adds that Britons love news of the famous "even though their
> 'celebrity' status is based on little more than the ability to sing a
> jolly tune, look good in tight trousers or kick a ball in the right
> direction".
>
> Adding to the sense of a despair, the guide says that although some
> crime rates are dropping, "vandalism and nuisance behaviour caused by
> binge- drinking remain serious problems". 
>
> And it warns that in the aftermath of the July 2005 London bombings,
> "a general air of disillusion prevails", with Britons seemingly "tired
> of politicians whatever their hue".
>
> On the culinary front, the guide says: "Without doubt you can find
> great food in Britain. It's just that not all the Brits seem to like
> eating it."
>
> Instead, we eat more junk food and ready meals than the rest of Europe
> put together.
>
> The guide says Britain has the world's fastest-growing market for
> Internet porn.
>
> "A survey in mid-2006 revealed 25 per cent of the UK population
> downloaded images from pornographic websites," it says, adding that
> nearly 1.5 million of those were women. 
>
> The sense of turmoil about our national identity has been further
> fuelled by the growing independence of Scotland and Wales, along with
> the continued influx of people from around the world.
>
> This has led the population to question whether they are British or
> whether they see themselves as English, Scottish or Welsh, says the
> guide, which was written by a team of nine authors from Britain,
> Ireland, America and Australia.
>
> The guide describes a cosmopolitan society which is heavily influenced
> by its multicultural population and where "many are happy to revel in
> this diversity".
>
> This has meant that "it's difficult to generalise about a British
> national psyche - mainly because there isn't one!"
>
> But it also means Britain is somewhere foreign visitors can come and
> feel at ease.
>
> Lead author David Else, who is English, said: "Although Britain's had
> a reputation for being multicultural for decades, this has escalated
> in recent years and the impact of these different cultures has become
> more significant." 
>
> The guide says cities have been enhanced by diversity and
> multiculturalism. Leicester, for example, has transformed itself into
> "a vibrant, socially progressive melting pot", it says.
>
> "It has a large and vibrant Asian community with many interesting
> events staged around religious festivals such as Holi, Diwali and
> Eid-ul-Fitr."
>
> Mr Else said: "Brits are as likely to tuck into a chicken madras as a
> Sunday roast, or to check out the Notting Hill carnival rather than
> Trooping the Colour.
>
> "The traditional British icons are still there, whether it be Tower
> Bridge, fish and chips or cups of tea. They are all worth
> experiencing. But at the same time Britain is changing.
>
> "Everyone can find something which suits them. We need to revel in
> this diversity as this is the future of Britain."
>
> The book, on sale at £16.99 from today, says Winston Churchill remains
> the best-known Briton, followed by Lord Nelson, Margaret Thatcher and
> David Beckham. 

We need someone of the calibre of General Franco to make Britain a 
decent place to live again.

-- 
Count Baldoni

BALDONI REX ROMANORUM

John of Aix wrote:

> > What happened to the
> > parking? They now park in the Christian cemetery and leave their
> > cars all parked in there when they go for Friday prayers so their
> > cars are not out on the street.
> 
> Goodness! I hope those buried there have made a complaint.

Why? the cemetary is for the living, not the dead. But nice of you to
show your sensitivity.

 
> > Now all the immigrants that are coming here
> > are getting housing by the local authority before people who have
> > been here for years.
> 
> You have proof that all immigrants get priority do you? You'll be
> happy to supply it then won't you?

Prove it by checking all their names and asking them?

 
> > I have personally been affected by this so no
> > one can tell me that this does not happen
> 
> You are you. 'All' is a greater quantity.

He says that to stop all the usual rubbish, as in, "no immigrants get
special treatment"

 
> > because 5 houses in the
> > street that I used to live in were taken away by the local
> > authority, mine being one of them, and given to immigrants while we
> > were all moved to towns further away, all so the members of 1
> > family could live in the same street.
> 
> So it is thus proved that 'all immigants get priority' because of
> your individual experience, the details of which we know not.

As you don't seem to know, or provide proof to the contrary, why bother
answering?
A majority of immigrants get priority housing, a possibility could be
that the British in need of housing, are usually stuck in overcrowding
in their parents house, while the immigrants are even worse, living as
normal, 10-20 to a room like they are used to in their own hovels and
mud huts.
 
> Do try and learn a little objectivity old son.

Pot, meet mr kettle.

--

> Steve Greene has brought this to us :

> We need someone of the calibre of General Franco to make Britain a
> decent place to live again.

Perhaps I've been dreaming it but it seems to me that since the death of 
Franco Spain has become a far more successful and happy place than it 
ever was under his regime. What good did this extreme right-wing 
nationalist bring? Most Spaniards remained in poverty and ignorance. Is 
that the sort of thing you want for your country?

John of Aix brought next idea :
>> Steve Greene has brought this to us :
>
>> We need someone of the calibre of General Franco to make Britain a
>> decent place to live again.
>
> Perhaps I've been dreaming it but it seems to me that since the death of 
> Franco Spain has become a far more successful and happy place than it ever 
> was under his regime. What good did this extreme right-wing nationalist 
> bring? Most Spaniards remained in poverty and ignorance. Is that the sort of 
> thing you want for your country?

It was safe to walk through the park at 19.30 when Franco was in power. 
 Britain has a rabble on the street that need sorting out and a bit of 
discipline would not go amiss.

-- 
Count Baldoni

BALDONI REX ROMANORUM

"Baldoni XXV @googlemail.com>" <baldoniXXV<nil> wrote in message 
news:mn.eced7d759ba2ceaa.74922@googlemail.co...

> It was safe to walk through the park at 19.30 when Franco was in power. 
> Britain has a rabble on the street that need sorting out and a bit of 
> discipline would not go amiss.

So it's a straight choice between a walk in the park and  freedom of 
speech...


-- 
William Black


I've seen things you people wouldn't believe.
Barbeques on fire by the chalets past the castle headland
I watched the gift shops glitter in the darkness off the Newborough gate
All these moments will be lost in time,  like icecream on the beach
Time for tea.

John of Aix wrote:
>> Steve Greene has brought this to us :
> 
>> We need someone of the calibre of General Franco to make Britain a
>> decent place to live again.
> 
> Perhaps I've been dreaming it but it seems to me that since the death of 
> Franco Spain has become a far more successful and happy place than it 
> ever was under his regime. What good did this extreme right-wing 
> nationalist bring? Most Spaniards remained in poverty and ignorance. Is 
> that the sort of thing you want for your country? 
> 
> 
I thought the prime purpose of New Labour was to reintroduce it to Britain.

-- 
Moving things in still pictures!

"William Black"  wrote in message 
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>
> "Billy who?"  wrote in message 
> news:sbOdnT3XHJpOi8HbnZ2dnUVZ8vSdnZ2d@eclipse.net.uk...
>
> why
>> can't the queen order the army in?
>
> Because she doesn't pay for it.
>
> Parliament does...
>
> And over 350 years ago they cut the head off the king who tried to change 
> that...

What with a knife?

>
> -- 
> William Black
>
>
> I've seen things you people wouldn't believe.
> Barbeques on fire by the chalets past the castle headland
> I watched the gift shops glitter in the darkness off the Newborough gate
> All these moments will be lost in time,  like icecream on the beach
> Time for tea.
>
>
>
>

Lord Turkey Cough wrote:
> "William Black"  wrote in message 
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>>"Billy who?"  wrote in message 
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>>why

>>>can't the queen order the army in?

>>Because she doesn't pay for it.

>>Parliament does...

>>And over 350 years ago they cut the head off the king who tried to change 
>>that...

> What with a knife?

In a quick review probably an ax.  Unlikely, but possibly, a sword.

> 
>>-- 
>>William Black
>>
>>

"Frank F. Matthews"  wrote in message 
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>
>
> Lord Turkey Cough wrote:
>> "William Black"  wrote in message 
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>
>>>"Billy who?"  wrote in message 
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>
>>>why
>
>>>>can't the queen order the army in?
>
>>>Because she doesn't pay for it.
>
>>>Parliament does...
>
>>>And over 350 years ago they cut the head off the king who tried to change 
>>>that...
>
>> What with a knife?
>
> In a quick review probably an ax.  Unlikely, but possibly, a sword.

The picture shows a short-handled broad-bladed axe.

-- 
William Black


I've seen things you people wouldn't believe.
Barbeques on fire by the chalets past the castle headland
I watched the gift shops glitter in the darkness off the Newborough gate
All these moments will be lost in time,  like icecream on the beach
Time for tea.

William Black wrote:

> "Frank F. Matthews"  wrote in message 
> news:465ce616$0$30610$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
> 
>>
>>Lord Turkey Cough wrote:
>>
>>>"William Black"  wrote in message 
>>>news:cPU6i.11053$xU4.6998@newsfe1-gui.ntli.net...
>>
>>>>"Billy who?"  wrote in message 
>>>>news:sbOdnT3XHJpOi8HbnZ2dnUVZ8vSdnZ2d@eclipse.net.uk...
>>
>>>>why
>>
>>>>>can't the queen order the army in?
>>
>>>>Because she doesn't pay for it.
>>
>>>>Parliament does...
>>
>>>>And over 350 years ago they cut the head off the king who tried to change 
>>>>that...
>>
>>>What with a knife?
>>
>>In a quick review probably an ax.  Unlikely, but possibly, a sword.

> The picture shows a short-handled broad-bladed axe.


Alas it is simply an interpretation.  I will admit I didn't bother 
looking at how close to the event it was produced but even if fairly 
contemporary it is simply a depiction.  It is not unknown for 'pictures' 
to be produced by someone who wasn't present.

Steve Greene has brought this to us :
> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=457002&in_page_id=1770
>
> Forget afternoon tea, cricket on the village green, roast beef and
> good manners.
>
> Britain is suffering an identity crisis as our genteel traditions are
> eroded by an obsession with TV talent shows, junk food, binge-drinking
> and porn, and diluted by multiculturalism, according to a travel
> guide.
>
> It is "a telling indictment that more vote in TV talent shows than for
> their country's leaders", says the latest edition of the Lonely Planet
> guide to Great Britain
>
> It adds that Britons love news of the famous "even though their
> 'celebrity' status is based on little more than the ability to sing a
> jolly tune, look good in tight trousers or kick a ball in the right
> direction".
>
> Adding to the sense of a despair, the guide says that although some
> crime rates are dropping, "vandalism and nuisance behaviour caused by
> binge- drinking remain serious problems". 
>
> And it warns that in the aftermath of the July 2005 London bombings,
> "a general air of disillusion prevails", with Britons seemingly "tired
> of politicians whatever their hue".
>
> On the culinary front, the guide says: "Without doubt you can find
> great food in Britain. It's just that not all the Brits seem to like
> eating it."
>
> Instead, we eat more junk food and ready meals than the rest of Europe
> put together.
>
> The guide says Britain has the world's fastest-growing market for
> Internet porn.
>
> "A survey in mid-2006 revealed 25 per cent of the UK population
> downloaded images from pornographic websites," it says, adding that
> nearly 1.5 million of those were women. 
>
> The sense of turmoil about our national identity has been further
> fuelled by the growing independence of Scotland and Wales, along with
> the continued influx of people from around the world.
>
> This has led the population to question whether they are British or
> whether they see themselves as English, Scottish or Welsh, says the
> guide, which was written by a team of nine authors from Britain,
> Ireland, America and Australia.
>
> The guide describes a cosmopolitan society which is heavily influenced
> by its multicultural population and where "many are happy to revel in
> this diversity".
>
> This has meant that "it's difficult to generalise about a British
> national psyche - mainly because there isn't one!"
>
> But it also means Britain is somewhere foreign visitors can come and
> feel at ease.
>
> Lead author David Else, who is English, said: "Although Britain's had
> a reputation for being multicultural for decades, this has escalated
> in recent years and the impact of these different cultures has become
> more significant." 
>
> The guide says cities have been enhanced by diversity and
> multiculturalism. Leicester, for example, has transformed itself into
> "a vibrant, socially progressive melting pot", it says.
>
> "It has a large and vibrant Asian community with many interesting
> events staged around religious festivals such as Holi, Diwali and
> Eid-ul-Fitr."
>
> Mr Else said: "Brits are as likely to tuck into a chicken madras as a
> Sunday roast, or to check out the Notting Hill carnival rather than
> Trooping the Colour.
>
> "The traditional British icons are still there, whether it be Tower
> Bridge, fish and chips or cups of tea. They are all worth
> experiencing. But at the same time Britain is changing.
>
> "Everyone can find something which suits them. We need to revel in
> this diversity as this is the future of Britain."
>
> The book, on sale at £16.99 from today, says Winston Churchill remains
> the best-known Briton, followed by Lord Nelson, Margaret Thatcher and
> David Beckham. 

We need someone of the calibre of General Franco to make Britain a 
decent place to live again.

-- 
Count Baldoni

BALDONI REX ROMANORUM

John of Aix wrote:

> > What happened to the
> > parking? They now park in the Christian cemetery and leave their
> > cars all parked in there when they go for Friday prayers so their
> > cars are not out on the street.
> 
> Goodness! I hope those buried there have made a complaint.

Why? the cemetary is for the living, not the dead. But nice of you to
show your sensitivity.

 
> > Now all the immigrants that are coming here
> > are getting housing by the local authority before people who have
> > been here for years.
> 
> You have proof that all immigrants get priority do you? You'll be
> happy to supply it then won't you?

Prove it by checking all their names and asking them?

 
> > I have personally been affected by this so no
> > one can tell me that this does not happen
> 
> You are you. 'All' is a greater quantity.

He says that to stop all the usual rubbish, as in, "no immigrants get
special treatment"

 
> > because 5 houses in the
> > street that I used to live in were taken away by the local
> > authority, mine being one of them, and given to immigrants while we
> > were all moved to towns further away, all so the members of 1
> > family could live in the same street.
> 
> So it is thus proved that 'all immigants get priority' because of
> your individual experience, the details of which we know not.

As you don't seem to know, or provide proof to the contrary, why bother
answering?
A majority of immigrants get priority housing, a possibility could be
that the British in need of housing, are usually stuck in overcrowding
in their parents house, while the immigrants are even worse, living as
normal, 10-20 to a room like they are used to in their own hovels and
mud huts.
 
> Do try and learn a little objectivity old son.

Pot, meet mr kettle.

--

> Steve Greene has brought this to us :

> We need someone of the calibre of General Franco to make Britain a
> decent place to live again.

Perhaps I've been dreaming it but it seems to me that since the death of 
Franco Spain has become a far more successful and happy place than it 
ever was under his regime. What good did this extreme right-wing 
nationalist bring? Most Spaniards remained in poverty and ignorance. Is 
that the sort of thing you want for your country?

John of Aix brought next idea :
>> Steve Greene has brought this to us :
>
>> We need someone of the calibre of General Franco to make Britain a
>> decent place to live again.
>
> Perhaps I've been dreaming it but it seems to me that since the death of 
> Franco Spain has become a far more successful and happy place than it ever 
> was under his regime. What good did this extreme right-wing nationalist 
> bring? Most Spaniards remained in poverty and ignorance. Is that the sort of 
> thing you want for your country?

It was safe to walk through the park at 19.30 when Franco was in power. 
 Britain has a rabble on the street that need sorting out and a bit of 
discipline would not go amiss.

-- 
Count Baldoni

BALDONI REX ROMANORUM

"Baldoni XXV @googlemail.com>" <baldoniXXV<nil> wrote in message 
news:mn.eced7d759ba2ceaa.74922@googlemail.co...

> It was safe to walk through the park at 19.30 when Franco was in power. 
> Britain has a rabble on the street that need sorting out and a bit of 
> discipline would not go amiss.

So it's a straight choice between a walk in the park and  freedom of 
speech...


-- 
William Black


I've seen things you people wouldn't believe.
Barbeques on fire by the chalets past the castle headland
I watched the gift shops glitter in the darkness off the Newborough gate
All these moments will be lost in time,  like icecream on the beach
Time for tea.

John of Aix wrote:
>> Steve Greene has brought this to us :
> 
>> We need someone of the calibre of General Franco to make Britain a
>> decent place to live again.
> 
> Perhaps I've been dreamin