http://www.metro.co.uk/news/article.html?in_article_id=49762&in_page_id=34

British families should be given priority for housing over new
immigrants, a minister claimed.

Margaret Hodge said indigenous families had a 'legitimate sense of
entitlement' that their needs should supercede those of recent
arrivals.

Social housing policy should be rebalanced to give more weight to
length of residence, citizenship and National Insurance contributions,
she added. 

Mrs Hodge, the industry minister, said there was widespread concern
about the changing face of Britain, and people needed to be reassured.

She said she had seen many voters in her constituency of Barking, East
London, turn to the far-Right British National Party because of
unhappiness with housing allocation.

'We must address these difficult questions,' she added. However, her
comments were quickly condemned by campaigners for asylum seekers'
rights.

Nancy Kelly, of the Refugee Council, said: 'The way to counter some of
the views that are put forward by the far-Right parties is not by
trying to follow their lead.'

Asylum seekers were not entitled to council housing, and arrivals from
new EU states had restricted access to benefits, she added.

Shadow immigration minister Damian Green said Mrs Hodge was admitting
the Government had not got immigration under control.

On May 22, 1:00 am, Steve Greene <stephen_gre...@hotmail.com.invalid>
wrote:
> http://www.metro.co.uk/news/article.html?in_article_id=49762&in_page_...
>
> British families should be given priority for housing over new
> immigrants, a minister claimed.
>
> Margaret Hodge said indigenous families had a 'legitimate sense of
> entitlement' that their needs should supercede those of recent
> arrivals.

This policy has been going on since the sixties.
She's had nearly half a century to come to this conclusion.


> Social housing policy should be rebalanced to give more weight to
> length of residence, citizenship and National Insurance contributions,
> she added.
>
> Mrs Hodge, the industry minister, said there was widespread concern
> about the changing face of Britain, and people needed to be reassured.
>
> She said she had seen many voters in her constituency of Barking, East
> London, turn to the far-Right British National Party because of
> unhappiness with housing allocation.

That's why she's never mentioned it before!  All she's interested in
is clinging onto power.


> 'We must address these difficult questions,' she added. However, her
> comments were quickly condemned by campaigners for asylum seekers'
> rights.

Asylum seekers' rights?  What are those?


> Nancy Kelly, of the Refugee Council, said: 'The way to counter some of
> the views that are put forward by the far-Right parties is not by
> trying to follow their lead.'

Typical woman.  Totally illogical.
The way to counter these views is to come up with some rational
argument against them.  Since there are no rational arguments against
them the only recourse is to follow the BNP's lead.


> Asylum seekers were not entitled to council housing, and arrivals from
> new EU states had restricted access to benefits, she added.

Well they're still here - sheltered and fed.  Why?


> Shadow immigration minister Damian Green said Mrs Hodge was admitting
> the Government had not got immigration under control.


Yep.  Admitting the BNP is right.

On 22 May, 09:30, h...@freeispshares.co.uk wrote:
> On May 22, 1:00 am, Steve Greene <stephen_gre...@hotmail.com.invalid>
> wrote:
>
> >http://www.metro.co.uk/news/article.html?in_article_id=49762&in_page_...
>
> > British families should be given priority for housing over new
> > immigrants, a minister claimed.
>
> > Margaret Hodge said indigenous families had a 'legitimate sense of
> > entitlement' that their needs should supercede those of recent
> > arrivals.
>
> This policy has been going on since the sixties.
> She's had nearly half a century to come to this conclusion.
>
> > Social housing policy should be rebalanced to give more weight to
> > length of residence, citizenship and National Insurance contributions,
> > she added.
>
> > Mrs Hodge, the industry minister, said there was widespread concern
> > about the changing face of Britain, and people needed to be reassured.
>
> > She said she had seen many voters in her constituency of Barking, East
> > London, turn to the far-Right British National Party because of
> > unhappiness with housing allocation.
>
> That's why she's never mentioned it before!  All she's interested in
> is clinging onto power.
>
> > 'We must address these difficult questions,' she added. However, her
> > comments were quickly condemned by campaigners for asylum seekers'
> > rights.
>
> Asylum seekers' rights?  What are those?
>
> > Nancy Kelly, of the Refugee Council, said: 'The way to counter some of
> > the views that are put forward by the far-Right parties is not by
> > trying to follow their lead.'
>
> Typical woman.  Totally illogical.
> The way to counter these views is to come up with some rational
> argument against them.  Since there are no rational arguments against
> them the only recourse is to follow the BNP's lead.
>
> > Asylum seekers were not entitled to council housing, and arrivals from
> > new EU states had restricted access to benefits, she added.
>
> Well they're still here - sheltered and fed.  Why?

The article on the BBC yesterday showed an overcrowded Polish family
who intended to sign up for a council house as soon as they were
allowed.

There is a housing shortage time-bomb building here...

I see Peter Hain disagrees he reckons NEED comes before time on waiting list 
and nationality, IE he means 20,000 Roma turning up with open hands should 
get priority over the British homeless.
"Steve Greene" <stephen_greene@hotmail.com.invalid> wrote in message 
news:ekc453llh9s3e4peu7ffag9k6rofn65fpk@4ax.com...
> http://www.metro.co.uk/news/article.html?in_article_id=49762&in_page_id=34
>
> British families should be given priority for housing over new
> immigrants, a minister claimed.
>
> Margaret Hodge said indigenous families had a 'legitimate sense of
> entitlement' that their needs should supercede those of recent
> arrivals.
>
> Social housing policy should be rebalanced to give more weight to
> length of residence, citizenship and National Insurance contributions,
> she added.
>
> Mrs Hodge, the industry minister, said there was widespread concern
> about the changing face of Britain, and people needed to be reassured.
>
> She said she had seen many voters in her constituency of Barking, East
> London, turn to the far-Right British National Party because of
> unhappiness with housing allocation.
>
> 'We must address these difficult questions,' she added. However, her
> comments were quickly condemned by campaigners for asylum seekers'
> rights.
>
> Nancy Kelly, of the Refugee Council, said: 'The way to counter some of
> the views that are put forward by the far-Right parties is not by
> trying to follow their lead.'
>
> Asylum seekers were not entitled to council housing, and arrivals from
> new EU states had restricted access to benefits, she added.
>
> Shadow immigration minister Damian Green said Mrs Hodge was admitting
> the Government had not got immigration under control.

"Maria"  wrote in message 
news:1179823669.879027.205240@h2g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
>>
>> > Nancy Kelly, of the Refugee Council, said: 'The way to counter some of
>> > the views that are put forward by the far-Right parties is not by
>> > trying to follow their lead.'
>> > Asylum seekers were not entitled to council housing, and arrivals from
>> > new EU states had restricted access to benefits, she added.

She is a bare faced Liar, In middlesbroyugh all hell let loose two years ago 
when three ( IIRC) British families with kids wrere told they could not be 
housed because no houses were available, But these families noticed as weeks 
and months went by a substantial amount of houses in Middlesbrough remained 
empty.
The couples got togerther with the local paper ( The Evening Gazette) and 
asked the council why these houses were still empy and they still homeless?. 
The council said it had been ordered by the govt to lay aside a percentage 
of its housing to accomodate Asylum seekers families , and they had complied 
with the govts instructions. Oddly enough as soon as the gazette broke the 
story the govt told the council to free up the houses for local people.

Never ever believe a word a lefty says or types they are complete alien to 
honesty and the truth.

hwake@freeispshares.co.uk wrote:
> On May 22, 1:00 am, Steve Greene <stephen_gre...@hotmail.com.invalid>
> wrote:
>> http://www.metro.co.uk/news/article.html?in_article_id=49762&in_page_...
>>
>> British families should be given priority for housing over new
>> immigrants, a minister claimed.
>>
>> Margaret Hodge said indigenous families had a 'legitimate sense of
>> entitlement' that their needs should supercede those of recent
>> arrivals.
> 
> This policy has been going on since the sixties.
> She's had nearly half a century to come to this conclusion.
> 
> 
>> Social housing policy should be rebalanced to give more weight to
>> length of residence, citizenship and National Insurance contributions,
>> she added.
>>
>> Mrs Hodge, the industry minister, said there was widespread concern
>> about the changing face of Britain, and people needed to be reassured.
>>
>> She said she had seen many voters in her constituency of Barking, East
>> London, turn to the far-Right British National Party because of
>> unhappiness with housing allocation.
> 
> That's why she's never mentioned it before!  All she's interested in
> is clinging onto power.
> 
> 
>> 'We must address these difficult questions,' she added. However, her
>> comments were quickly condemned by campaigners for asylum seekers'
>> rights.
> 
> Asylum seekers' rights?  What are those?
> 
> 
>> Nancy Kelly, of the Refugee Council, said: 'The way to counter some of
>> the views that are put forward by the far-Right parties is not by
>> trying to follow their lead.'
> 
> Typical woman.  Totally illogical.
> The way to counter these views is to come up with some rational
> argument against them.  Since there are no rational arguments against
> them the only recourse is to follow the BNP's lead.
> 
> 
>> Asylum seekers were not entitled to council housing, and arrivals from
>> new EU states had restricted access to benefits, she added.
> 
> Well they're still here - sheltered and fed.  Why?
> 
> 
>> Shadow immigration minister Damian Green said Mrs Hodge was admitting
>> the Government had not got immigration under control.
> 
> 
> Yep.  Admitting the BNP is right.
> 
But when the Tories made similar noises in 2001, it was NuLabour who 
screamed "racism"!

-- 
Moving things in still pictures!

"®i©ardo"  wrote in message 
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>>
> But when the Tories made similar noises in 2001, it was NuLabour who 
> screamed "racism"!
>

But then it was.

The immigrants were black and brown then,  now they're white...


-- 
William Black


I've seen things you people wouldn't believe.
Barbeques on fire by the chalets past the castle headland
I watched the gift shops glitter in the darkness off the Newborough gate
All these moments will be lost in time,  like icecream on the beach
Time for tea.

On May 22, 10:04 am, "VAN DIESEL"  wrote:
> I see Peter Hain disagrees he reckons NEED comes before time on waiting list
> and nationality, IE he means 20,000 Roma turning up with open hands should
> get priority over the British homeless."


Well he would say that wouldn't he, being a foreigner himself.

>>
>> Yep.  Admitting the BNP is right.
>>
> But when the Tories made similar noises in 2001, it was NuLabour who 
> screamed "racism"!
>
but didnt you know only right wingers can be racist ?

"William Black"  wrote in message 
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>
> "®i©ardo"  wrote in message 
> news:%uz4i.35147$Ug.21668@fe1.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
>>>
>> But when the Tories made similar noises in 2001, it was NuLabour who 
>> screamed "racism"!
>>
>
> But then it was.
>
> The immigrants were black and brown then,  now they're white...
>
>
no they are Brown Roma in the main, originally from India and have spent the 
last hundred years begging their way across europe until they heard the 
words " Social security, Dole, Free housing, Good scrounging turf, never 
having to work"  all the battle cries of labour voters socialists and 
chancers across the world.

On Tue, 22 May 2007 10:04:27 +0100, "VAN DIESEL"
 wrote:

>I see Peter Hain disagrees he reckons NEED comes before time on waiting list 
>and nationality, IE he means 20,000 Roma turning up with open hands should 
>get priority over the British homeless.

Is he the one from South Africa?
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William Black wrote:
> "®i©ardo"  wrote in message 
> news:%uz4i.35147$Ug.21668@fe1.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
>> But when the Tories made similar noises in 2001, it was NuLabour who 
>> screamed "racism"!
>>
> 
> But then it was.
> 
> The immigrants were black and brown then,  now they're white...
> 
> 
What's the difference?
-- 
Moving things in still pictures!

®i©ardo wrote:
> William Black wrote:
>> "®i©ardo"  wrote in message 
>> news:%uz4i.35147$Ug.21668@fe1.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
>>> But when the Tories made similar noises in 2001, it was NuLabour who 
>>> screamed "racism"!
>>>
>>

         Could it be that even this government is finally being forced 
to take notice. Only in the setting of a PC mad house would her very 
moderate remarks cause any controversy. What she is saying should be a 
given!

On Tue, 22 May 2007 14:51:49 GMT, ®i©ardo  wrote:

>William Black wrote:
>> "®i©ardo"  wrote in message 
>> news:%uz4i.35147$Ug.21668@fe1.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
>>> But when the Tories made similar noises in 2001, it was NuLabour who 
>>> screamed "racism"!
>>>
>> 
>> But then it was.
>> 
>> The immigrants were black and brown then,  now they're white...
>> 
>> 
>What's the difference?

Generally, the white ones have a right to live in the UK on account of
them coming from EU member states.
How can you give millions of people from poor countries the right to
live and work here without providing extra housing for them?

"®i©ardo"  wrote in message 
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> William Black wrote:
>> "®i©ardo"  wrote in message 
>> news:%uz4i.35147$Ug.21668@fe1.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
>>> But when the Tories made similar noises in 2001, it was NuLabour who 
>>> screamed "racism"!
>>>
>>
>> But then it was.
>>
>> The immigrants were black and brown then,  now they're white...
>>
>>
> What's the difference?

It's not racist to say they shouldn't get a house.


-- 
William Black


I've seen things you people wouldn't believe.
Barbeques on fire by the chalets past the castle headland
I watched the gift shops glitter in the darkness off the Newborough gate
All these moments will be lost in time,  like icecream on the beach
Time for tea.

William Black wrote:
> "®i©ardo"  wrote in message 
> news:9sD4i.45244$Ch.24459@fe2.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
>> William Black wrote:
>>> "®i©ardo"  wrote in message 
>>> news:%uz4i.35147$Ug.21668@fe1.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
>>>> But when the Tories made similar noises in 2001, it was NuLabour who 
>>>> screamed "racism"!
>>>>
>>> But then it was.
>>>
>>> The immigrants were black and brown then,  now they're white...
>>>
>>>
>> What's the difference?
> 
> It's not racist to say they shouldn't get a house.
> 
> 
Are you saying it's only racist if they're "black and brown"?

-- 
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"®i©ardo"  wrote in message 
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> William Black wrote:
>> "®i©ardo"  wrote in message 
>> news:9sD4i.45244$Ch.24459@fe2.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
>>> William Black wrote:
>>>> "®i©ardo"  wrote in message 
>>>> news:%uz4i.35147$Ug.21668@fe1.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
>>>>> But when the Tories made similar noises in 2001, it was NuLabour who 
>>>>> screamed "racism"!
>>>>>
>>>> But then it was.
>>>>
>>>> The immigrants were black and brown then,  now they're white...
>>>>
>>>>
>>> What's the difference?
>>
>> It's not racist to say they shouldn't get a house.
>>
>>
> Are you saying it's only racist if they're "black and brown"?
>

I'm not,  no.

However 'Polish' is not a race anymore than 'Irish' is.

Saying Poles can't have houses is not racist.  Saying Indians can't may well 
be.

-- 
William Black


I've seen things you people wouldn't believe.
Barbeques on fire by the chalets past the castle headland
I watched the gift shops glitter in the darkness off the Newborough gate
All these moments will be lost in time,  like icecream on the beach
Time for tea.

"William Black"  wrote in message 
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>
> "®i©ardo"  wrote in message 
> news:s0H4i.38672$Ug.3187@fe1.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
>> William Black wrote:
>>> "®i©ardo"  wrote in message 
>>> news:9sD4i.45244$Ch.24459@fe2.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
>>>> William Black wrote:
>>>>> "®i©ardo"  wrote in message 
>>>>> news:%uz4i.35147$Ug.21668@fe1.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
>>>>>> But when the Tories made similar noises in 2001, it was NuLabour who 
>>>>>> screamed "racism"!
>>>>>>
>>>>> But then it was.
>>>>>
>>>>> The immigrants were black and brown then,  now they're white...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> What's the difference?
>>>
>>> It's not racist to say they shouldn't get a house.
>>>
>>>
>> Are you saying it's only racist if they're "black and brown"?
>>
>
> I'm not,  no.
>
> However 'Polish' is not a race anymore than 'Irish' is.
>
> Saying Poles can't have houses is not racist.  Saying Indians can't may 
> well be.

Utter bollocks as usual from the globalist half-wit Black !

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>>> William Black wrote:
>>>> "®i©ardo"  wrote in message 
>>>> news:9sD4i.45244$Ch.24459@fe2.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
>>>>> William Black wrote:
>>>>>> "®i©ardo"  wrote in message 
>>>>>> news:%uz4i.35147$Ug.21668@fe1.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
>>>>>>> But when the Tories made similar noises in 2001, it was NuLabour who 
>>>>>>> screamed "racism"!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> But then it was.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The immigrants were black and brown then,  now they're white...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> What's the difference?
>>>>
>>>> It's not racist to say they shouldn't get a house.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Are you saying it's only racist if they're "black and brown"?
>>>
>>
>> I'm not,  no.
>>
>> However 'Polish' is not a race anymore than 'Irish' is.
>>
>> Saying Poles can't have houses is not racist.  Saying Indians can't may 
>> well be.
>
> Utter bollocks as usual from the globalist half-wit Black !
Lack of content noted.

-- 
William Black


I've seen things you people wouldn't believe.
Barbeques on fire by the chalets past the castle headland
I watched the gift shops glitter in the darkness off the Newborough gate
All these moments will be lost in time,  like icecream on the beach
Time for tea.

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>>>> William Black wrote:
>>>>> "®i©ardo"  wrote in message 
>>>>> news:9sD4i.45244$Ch.24459@fe2.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
>>>>>> William Black wrote:
>>>>>>> "®i©ardo"  wrote in message 
>>>>>>> news:%uz4i.35147$Ug.21668@fe1.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
>>>>>>>> But when the Tories made similar noises in 2001, it was NuLabour 
>>>>>>>> who screamed "racism"!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> But then it was.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The immigrants were black and brown then,  now they're white...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> What's the difference?
>>>>>
>>>>> It's not racist to say they shouldn't get a house.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Are you saying it's only racist if they're "black and brown"?
>>>>
>>>
>>> I'm not,  no.
>>>
>>> However 'Polish' is not a race anymore than 'Irish' is.
>>>
>>> Saying Poles can't have houses is not racist.  Saying Indians can't may 
>>> well be.
>>
>> Utter bollocks as usual from the globalist half-wit Black !

> Lack of content noted.

The content, Black, is the exposure of your idiocy.

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>>>>>> "®i©ardo"  wrote in message 
>>>>>> news:9sD4i.45244$Ch.24459@fe2.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
>>>>>>> William Black wrote:
>>>>>>>> "®i©ardo"  wrote in message 
>>>>>>>> news:%uz4i.35147$Ug.21668@fe1.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
>>>>>>>>> But when the Tories made similar noises in 2001, it was NuLabour 
>>>>>>>>> who screamed "racism"!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> But then it was.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The immigrants were black and brown then,  now they're white...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What's the difference?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It's not racist to say they shouldn't get a house.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> Are you saying it's only racist if they're "black and brown"?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I'm not,  no.
>>>>
>>>> However 'Polish' is not a race anymore than 'Irish' is.
>>>>
>>>> Saying Poles can't have houses is not racist.  Saying Indians can't may 
>>>> well be.
>>>
>>> Utter bollocks as usual from the globalist half-wit Black !
>
>> Lack of content noted.
>
> The content, Black, is the exposure of your idiocy.
>

Did you post at one time under the name 'Bob something-or-other'?

Your style is very similar.

Very right wing,  use the word 'treason' to mean 'I don't agree with them' 
about Europe,  think the BNP is a bunch of dangerous lefties.

-- 
William Black


I've seen things you people wouldn't believe.
Barbeques on fire by the chalets past the castle headland
I watched the gift shops glitter in the darkness off the Newborough gate
All these moments will be lost in time,  like icecream on the beach
Time for tea.

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>>>>>> William Black wrote:
>>>>>>> "®i©ardo"  wrote in message 
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>>>>>>>> William Black wrote:
>>>>>>>>> "®i©ardo"  wrote in message 
>>>>>>>>> news:%uz4i.35147$Ug.21668@fe1.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
>>>>>>>>>> But when the Tories made similar noises in 2001, it was NuLabour 
>>>>>>>>>> who screamed "racism"!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> But then it was.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The immigrants were black and brown then,  now they're white...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> What's the difference?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It's not racist to say they shouldn't get a house.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Are you saying it's only racist if they're "black and brown"?
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm not,  no.
>>>>>
>>>>> However 'Polish' is not a race anymore than 'Irish' is.
>>>>>
>>>>> Saying Poles can't have houses is not racist.  Saying Indians can't 
>>>>> may well be.
>>>>
>>>> Utter bollocks as usual from the globalist half-wit Black !
>>
>>> Lack of content noted.
>>
>> The content, Black, is the exposure of your idiocy.
>>
>
> Did you post at one time under the name 'Bob something-or-other'?

No.

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>> Did you post at one time under the name 'Bob something-or-other'?
>
> No.

Bob Simms,  that was it,  you're Barmy Bob Simms...

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I've seen things you people wouldn't believe.
Barbeques on fire by the chalets past the castle headland
I watched the gift shops glitter in the darkness off the Newborough gate
All these moments will be lost in time,  like icecream on the beach
Time for tea.

"William Black"  wrote in message 
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> "Chris X"  wrote in message 
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>> "William Black"  wrote in message 
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>>>
>
>>> Did you post at one time under the name 'Bob something-or-other'?
>>
>> No.
>
> Bob Simms,  that was it,  you're Barmy Bob Simms...

I'd guessed that was who you meant, and it was "Sims" with one "m". But no, 
I'm not him - he passed away in August 2005.

William Black wrote:
> "®i©ardo"  wrote in message 
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>> William Black wrote:
>>> "®i©ardo"  wrote in message 
>>> news:9sD4i.45244$Ch.24459@fe2.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
>>>> William Black wrote:
>>>>> "®i©ardo"  wrote in message 
>>>>> news:%uz4i.35147$Ug.21668@fe1.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
>>>>>> But when the Tories made similar noises in 2001, it was NuLabour who 
>>>>>> screamed "racism"!
>>>>>>
>>>>> But then it was.
>>>>>
>>>>> The immigrants were black and brown then,  now they're white...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> What's the difference?
>>> It's not racist to say they shouldn't get a house.
>>>
>>>
>> Are you saying it's only racist if they're "black and brown"?
>>
> 
> I'm not,  no.
> 
> However 'Polish' is not a race anymore than 'Irish' is.
> 
> Saying Poles can't have houses is not racist.  Saying Indians can't may well 
> be.
> 
So if I said Vietnamese or Pakistani that would be OK?

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"Chris X"  wrote in message 
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>>
>>>> Did you post at one time under the name 'Bob something-or-other'?
>>>
>>> No.
>>
>> Bob Simms,  that was it,  you're Barmy Bob Simms...
>
> I'd guessed that was who you meant, and it was "Sims" with one "m". But 
> no, I'm not him - he passed away in August 2005.
>
A pity,  like you he was good value.


-- 
William Black


I've seen things you people wouldn't believe.
Barbeques on fire by the chalets past the castle headland
I watched the gift shops glitter in the darkness off the Newborough gate
All these moments will be lost in time,  like icecream on the beach
Time for tea.

"®i©ardo"  wrote in message 
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> William Black wrote:
>> "®i©ardo"  wrote in message 
>> news:s0H4i.38672$Ug.3187@fe1.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
>>> William Black wrote:
>>>> "®i©ardo"  wrote in message 
>>>> news:9sD4i.45244$Ch.24459@fe2.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
>>>>> William Black wrote:
>>>>>> "®i©ardo"  wrote in message 
>>>>>> news:%uz4i.35147$Ug.21668@fe1.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
>>>>>>> But when the Tories made similar noises in 2001, it was NuLabour who 
>>>>>>> screamed "racism"!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> But then it was.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The immigrants were black and brown then,  now they're white...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> What's the difference?
>>>> It's not racist to say they shouldn't get a house.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Are you saying it's only racist if they're "black and brown"?
>>>
>>
>> I'm not,  no.
>>
>> However 'Polish' is not a race anymore than 'Irish' is.
>>
>> Saying Poles can't have houses is not racist.  Saying Indians can't may 
>> well be.
>>
> So if I said Vietnamese or Pakistani that would be OK?
>
That depends on you.


-- 
William Black


I've seen things you people wouldn't believe.
Barbeques on fire by the chalets past the castle headland
I watched the gift shops glitter in the darkness off the Newborough gate
All these moments will be lost in time,  like icecream on the beach
Time for tea.

"William Black"  wrote in message 
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> "Chris X"  wrote in message 
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>>>>> Did you post at one time under the name 'Bob something-or-other'?
>>>>
>>>> No.
>>>
>>> Bob Simms,  that was it,  you're Barmy Bob Simms...
>>
>> I'd guessed that was who you meant, and it was "Sims" with one "m". But 
>> no, I'm not him - he passed away in August 2005.
>>
> A pity,  like you he was good value.

Like me, he knew who the *real* enemies of Britain are.

"Chris X"  wrote in message 
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>> "Chris X"  wrote in message 
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>>>>>> Did you post at one time under the name 'Bob something-or-other'?
>>>>>
>>>>> No.
>>>>
>>>> Bob Simms,  that was it,  you're Barmy Bob Simms...
>>>
>>> I'd guessed that was who you meant, and it was "Sims" with one "m". But 
>>> no, I'm not him - he passed away in August 2005.
>>>
>> A pity,  like you he was good value.
>
> Like me, he knew who the *real* enemies of Britain are.
Same difference if you're standing where I'm standing.

This is Usenet,  it doesn't matter.

-- 
William Black


I've seen things you people wouldn't believe.
Barbeques on fire by the chalets past the castle headland
I watched the gift shops glitter in the darkness off the Newborough gate
All these moments will be lost in time,  like icecream on the beach
Time for tea.

William Black wrote:
> "®i©ardo"  wrote in message 
> news:fhI4i.38692$Ug.19903@fe1.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
>> William Black wrote:
>>> "®i©ardo"  wrote in message 
>>> news:s0H4i.38672$Ug.3187@fe1.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
>>>> William Black wrote:
>>>>> "®i©ardo"  wrote in message 
>>>>> news:9sD4i.45244$Ch.24459@fe2.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
>>>>>> William Black wrote:
>>>>>>> "®i©ardo"  wrote in message 
>>>>>>> news:%uz4i.35147$Ug.21668@fe1.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
>>>>>>>> But when the Tories made similar noises in 2001, it was NuLabour who 
>>>>>>>> screamed "racism"!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> But then it was.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The immigrants were black and brown then,  now they're white...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> What's the difference?
>>>>> It's not racist to say they shouldn't get a house.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Are you saying it's only racist if they're "black and brown"?
>>>>
>>> I'm not,  no.
>>>
>>> However 'Polish' is not a race anymore than 'Irish' is.
>>>
>>> Saying Poles can't have houses is not racist.  Saying Indians can't may 
>>> well be.
>>>
>> So if I said Vietnamese or Pakistani that would be OK?
>>
> That depends on you.
> 
> 
Well, judging by other responses to your utterances you seem to be well 
enough known for talking bollocks.

Is it because you are Black?

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VAN DIESEL wrote:
> "Maria"  wrote in message
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>>>
>>>> Nancy Kelly, of the Refugee Council, said: 'The way to counter
>>>> some of the views that are put forward by the far-Right parties is
>>>> not by trying to follow their lead.'
>>>> Asylum seekers were not entitled to council housing, and arrivals
>>>> from new EU states had restricted access to benefits, she added.
>
> She is a bare faced Liar, In middlesbroyugh all hell let loose two
> years ago when three ( IIRC) British families with kids wrere told
> they could not be housed because no houses were available, But these
> families noticed as weeks and months went by a substantial amount of
> houses in Middlesbrough remained empty.
> The couples got togerther with the local paper ( The Evening Gazette)
> and asked the council why these houses were still empy and they still
> homeless?. The council said it had been ordered by the govt to lay
> aside a percentage of its housing to accomodate Asylum seekers
> families , and they had complied with the govts instructions. Oddly
> enough as soon as the gazette broke the story the govt told the
> council to free up the houses for local people.

Can you supply a link to this story please?

VAN DIESEL wrote:
> I see Peter Hain disagrees he reckons NEED comes before time on
> waiting list

Quite right.

VAN DIESEL wrote:
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>> "®i©ardo"  wrote in message
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>>>>
>>> But when the Tories made similar noises in 2001, it was NuLabour who
>>> screamed "racism"!
>>>
>>
>> But then it was.
>>
>> The immigrants were black and brown then,  now they're white...
>>
>>
> no they are Brown Roma in the main, originally from India

I take it you are talking about true Romanies who did indeed originate 
in India, just like the Celts. Now there's a thing. However that was 
about 5 or 6000 years ago, now they are a mix of peoples, just like 
everywhere. Gypsies (from 'Egyptian') doesn't mean anything really and 
most 'Roma' are as 'gadji' as you and me.

®i©ardo wrote:
> William Black wrote:
>> "®i©ardo"  wrote in message
>> news:%uz4i.35147$Ug.21668@fe1.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
>>> But when the Tories made similar noises in 2001, it was NuLabour who
>>> screamed "racism"!
>>>
>>
>> But then it was.
>>
>> The immigrants were black and brown then,  now they're white...
>>
>>
> What's the difference?

Suntan lotion investments suddenly become more interesting?

VAN DIESEL wrote:
>>> Yep.  Admitting the BNP is right.
>>>
>> But when the Tories made similar noises in 2001, it was NuLabour who
>> screamed "racism"!
>>
> but didnt you know only right wingers can be racist ?

Yeah, I did know thanks.

VAN DIESEL wrote:
> "Maria"  wrote in message 
> news:1179823669.879027.205240@h2g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
>>>> Nancy Kelly, of the Refugee Council, said: 'The way to counter some of
>>>> the views that are put forward by the far-Right parties is not by
>>>> trying to follow their lead.'
>>>> Asylum seekers were not entitled to council housing, and arrivals from
>>>> new EU states had restricted access to benefits, she added.
> 
> She is a bare faced Liar, In middlesbroyugh all hell let loose two years ago 
> when three ( IIRC) British families with kids wrere told they could not be 
> housed because no houses were available, But these families noticed as weeks 
> and months went by a substantial amount of houses in Middlesbrough remained 
> empty.
> The couples got togerther with the local paper ( The Evening Gazette) and 
> asked the council why these houses were still empy and they still homeless?. 
> The council said it had been ordered by the govt to lay aside a percentage 
> of its housing to accomodate Asylum seekers families , and they had complied 
> with the govts instructions. Oddly enough as soon as the gazette broke the 
> story the govt told the council to free up the houses for local people.
> 
> Never ever believe a word a lefty says or types they are complete alien to 
> honesty and the truth.
> 
> 
Some cases do not get media coverage.
I have a friend in a 2 bedroom council house in Dagenham.  There are her 
and her husband with 3 children (Boy 17 / Girl 15 / Girl 13)
They were told that larger houses were being 'saved' for immigrant 
families who generally had larger families.
The councils answer was that the husband share a bedroom with the son 
and the wife share with the two daughters !!

Brenda Orsler wrote:

> VAN DIESEL wrote:
> 
>> "Maria"  wrote in message 
>> news:1179823669.879027.205240@h2g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
>>
>>>>> Nancy Kelly, of the Refugee Council, said: 'The way to counter some of
>>>>> the views that are put forward by the far-Right parties is not by
>>>>> trying to follow their lead.'
>>>>> Asylum seekers were not entitled to council housing, and arrivals from
>>>>> new EU states had restricted access to benefits, she added.
>>
>>
>> She is a bare faced Liar, In middlesbroyugh all hell let loose two 
>> years ago when three ( IIRC) British families with kids wrere told 
>> they could not be housed because no houses were available, But these 
>> families noticed as weeks and months went by a substantial amount of 
>> houses in Middlesbrough remained empty.
>> The couples got togerther with the local paper ( The Evening Gazette) 
>> and asked the council why these houses were still empy and they still 
>> homeless?. The council said it had been ordered by the govt to lay 
>> aside a percentage of its housing to accomodate Asylum seekers 
>> families , and they had complied with the govts instructions. Oddly 
>> enough as soon as the gazette broke the story the govt told the 
>> council to free up the houses for local people.
>>
>> Never ever believe a word a lefty says or types they are complete 
>> alien to honesty and the truth.
>>
>>
> Some cases do not get media coverage.
> I have a friend in a 2 bedroom council house in Dagenham.  There are her 
> and her husband with 3 children (Boy 17 / Girl 15 / Girl 13)
> They were told that larger houses were being 'saved' for immigrant 
> families who generally had larger families.
> The councils answer was that the husband share a bedroom with the son 
> and the wife share with the two daughters !!

That is designed to lower the chance that they will try to qualify for a 
larger house by having a larger family.