In message 
          Mike_B  wrote:

> My comment was not intended to assess the governments attitude, but 
> yours. You seem to switch from being totally abolishionist and wanting 
> to boil coffee shop staff in hot oil, to accepting that drugs are fine 
> so long as they are distributed according to a law. I am trying to 
> discover why it matters to you on a fundamental level what the law says, 
> when the law can change at the whim of any government.

Law can change - but it would be a strange government indeed that allowed
harmful drugs free use by every Tom, Dick and Harry. 

Ken Down

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          pxhxz@cadence.com (Pete nospam Zakel) wrote:

> Why would that be strange?  I can legally purchase lots of things that are
> potentially far more harmful than currently illegal drugs, such as drain
> cleaner, rat poison, lawn mowers, chain saws, hatchets, sledgehammers, cement,
> spray paint, chemical solvents, etc., etc., etc.

All of which you can't wait to drink, smoke, inject, right?

Ken Down

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Kendall K. Down wrote:
> In message <479511b7$1@news.cadence.com>
>           pxhxz@cadence.com (Pete nospam Zakel) wrote:
> 
>> Why would that be strange?  I can legally purchase lots of things that are
>> potentially far more harmful than currently illegal drugs, such as drain
>> cleaner, rat poison, lawn mowers, chain saws, hatchets, sledgehammers, cement,
>> spray paint, chemical solvents, etc., etc., etc.
> 
> All of which you can't wait to drink, smoke, inject, right?
> 
> Ken Down

	People who merely use drugs generally wait to use them
Kendall, however people who are addicted may hurry to a safe venue
to use the same drugs.

    later
    bliss -- C  O C O A  Powered... (at california dot com)

--
bobbie sellers - a retired nurse in San Francisco

    Ningen banji          Human beings do
    Samazama no           Every single kind
    Baka a suru           Of stupid thing
        --- 117th edition of Haifu Yanagidaru published in 1832

In article  Kendall K. Down  writes:
>In message <479511b7$1@news.cadence.com>
>          pxhxz@cadence.com (Pete nospam Zakel) wrote:
>
>> Why would that be strange?  I can legally purchase lots of things that are
>> potentially far more harmful than currently illegal drugs, such as drain
>> cleaner, rat poison, lawn mowers, chain saws, hatchets, sledgehammers, cement,
>> spray paint, chemical solvents, etc., etc., etc.

>All of which you can't wait to drink, smoke, inject, right?

Oh, sure.  I'm right at this moment heating up a chain saw in a spoonful
of water so I can draw it into my works and "chain up" before starting my
day!

What a maroon!

-Pete Zakel
 (phz@seeheader.nospam)

"Admiration: Our polite recognition of another's resemblance to ourselves."

On Jan 22, 12:56 am, Kendall K. Down 
wrote:
> In message 
>           px...@cadence.com (Pete nospam Zakel) wrote:

> > >Law can change - but it would be a strange government indeed that allowed
> > >harmful drugs free use by every Tom, Dick and Harry.
>
> > Why would that be strange?  I can legally purchase lots of things that are
> > potentially far more harmful than currently illegal drugs, such as drain
> > cleaner, rat poison, lawn mowers, chain saws, hatchets, sledgehammers, cement,
> > spray paint, chemical solvents, etc., etc., etc.
>
> All of which you can't wait to drink, smoke, inject, right?

Why is it not strange for government to allow potentially harmful
noningestables free use by every Tom, Dick and Harry, but it would be
strange for government to allow potentially harmful ingestables free
use by every Tom, Dick and Harry?

In message <47964352$1@news.cadence.com>
          pxhxz@cadence.com (Pete nospam Zakel) wrote:

> >> Why would that be strange?  I can legally purchase lots of things that are
> >> potentially far more harmful than currently illegal drugs, such as drain
> >> cleaner, rat poison, lawn mowers, chain saws, hatchets, sledgehammers, cement,
> >> spray paint, chemical solvents, etc., etc., etc.
 
> >All of which you can't wait to drink, smoke, inject, right?
 
> Oh, sure.  I'm right at this moment heating up a chain saw in a spoonful
> of water so I can draw it into my works and "chain up" before starting my
> day!
> What a maroon!

If you don't like being mocked over the red herrings you introduce, then
leave them out.

Ken Down

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In message 
          M_P  wrote:

> Why is it not strange for government to allow potentially harmful
> noningestables free use by every Tom, Dick and Harry, but it would be
> strange for government to allow potentially harmful ingestables free
> use by every Tom, Dick and Harry?

But the government does *not* allow free use: look at that chain saw and
observe the warning about the age at which it can be bought and used.

Ken Down

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On Wed, 23 Jan 2008 07:14:02 GMT, Kendall K. Down
 wrote:

>> Why is it not strange for government to allow potentially harmful
>> noningestables free use by every Tom, Dick and Harry, but it would be
>> strange for government to allow potentially harmful ingestables free
>> use by every Tom, Dick and Harry?
>
>But the government does *not* allow free use: look at that chain saw and
>observe the warning about the age at which it can be bought and used.

Nobody is arguing for drugs to be sold freely to children.

-- 
Cynic

On Wed, 23 Jan 2008 07:14:02 +0000, Kendall K. Down wrote:

> In message
> 
>           M_P  wrote:
> 
>> Why is it not strange for government to allow potentially harmful
>> noningestables free use by every Tom, Dick and Harry, but it would be
>> strange for government to allow potentially harmful ingestables free use
>> by every Tom, Dick and Harry?
> 
> But the government does *not* allow free use: look at that chain saw and
> observe the warning about the age at which it can be bought and used.

The same applies to some drugs. Warnings on cigarette packs and age
restricted to over-18s.

> 
> Ken Down
-- 
Phil Stovell, Hampshire, UK

On Jan 23, 1:14 am, Kendall K. Down 
wrote:
> In message 
>           M_P  wrote:
>
> > Why is it not strange for government to allow potentially harmful
> > noningestables free use by every Tom, Dick and Harry, but it would be
> > strange for government to allow potentially harmful ingestables free
> > use by every Tom, Dick and Harry?
>
> But the government does *not* allow free use: look at that chain saw and
> observe the warning about the age at which it can be bought and used.

So you agree that it would not be strange for government to allow
potentially harmful ingestables free use by every ADULT Tom, Dick and
Harry?

In message 
          M_P  wrote:

> > But the government does *not* allow free use: look at that chain saw and
> > observe the warning about the age at which it can be bought and used.
 
> So you agree that it would not be strange for government to allow
> potentially harmful ingestables free use by every ADULT Tom, Dick and
> Harry?

Certainly - provided these putative adults use the potentially harmful
ingestables in a responsible way. For example, by using alcohol as a
disinfectant. When, instead, the supposed adult drinks the stuff, he or she
is clearly showing that he has a long way to grow up.

Ken Down

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On Jan 24, 12:54 am, Kendall K. Down 
wrote:
> In message 
>           M_P  wrote:
>
> > > But the government does *not* allow free use: look at that chain saw and
> > > observe the warning about the age at which it can be bought and used.
> > So you agree that it would not be strange for government to allow
> > potentially harmful ingestables free use by every ADULT Tom, Dick and
> > Harry?
>
> Certainly - provided these putative adults use the potentially harmful
> ingestables in a responsible way.

If that's your requirement then your chainsaw example was a lie, as
there is no such restriction on chainsaw sales. Don't lie, Kendall ...
it clearly shows that you have a long way to grow up.