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date: Sat, 12 Jan 2008 00:10:06 +0000,    group: uk.local.north-wales        back       
Re: North Wales chief constable - a case for very early retirement.   
On Jan 11, 1:18 am, Kendall K. Down 
wrote:
> In message 
>           M_P  wrote:
>
> > > Agreed - but the evidence is clear that drug abuse *does* harm other people,
> > > from the idiot who runs amok with a knife
> > Wrong ... it's the knife that does the harm, not the drugs.
>
> True, true. It's an amazing fact, however, that so long as the knife lay on
> the table, it was completely harmless. It was only when it was picked up by
> some idiot who had been taking drugs that it did any harm.
>
> There are mysteries which we will never solve.

Ponder this marvel: The knife does just as much harm when run amok
with by a non-drug-user.

Stunning, huh?
date: Fri, 11 Jan 2008 13:06:15 -0800 (PST)   author:   M_P

Re: North Wales chief constable - a case for very early retirement.   
On Fri, 11 Jan 2008 07:20:25 GMT, Kendall K. Down
 wrote:

>> Are you General Barry McCaffrey, the former US Drug Tsar, who nearly
>> caused a diplomatic incident by claiming something similar?
>
>Ah. So you rely on old, out-of-date data for your arguments? Personally I
>prefer to keep in touch with the latest news and developments.

So what *are* the latest crime statistics of Holland, and how do they
compare with the figures prior to the effective legalisation of
cannabis?

Ditto for the use on cannabis in that country.

-- 
Cynic
date: Sat, 12 Jan 2008 00:10:06 +0000   author:   Cynic

Re: North Wales chief constable - a case for very early retirement.   
On Sat, 12 Jan 2008 07:03:14 GMT, Kendall K. Down
 wrote:

>> So what *are* the latest crime statistics of Holland, and how do they
>> compare with the figures prior to the effective legalisation of
>> cannabis?

>No idea - except that the Dutch authorities are being persuaded by them to
>be a good deal less accepting of free drug use.

I doubt very much that the change has anything to do with crime.  You
are far too gullible.

-- 
Cynic
date: Sat, 12 Jan 2008 19:49:34 +0000   author:   Cynic

Re: North Wales chief constable - a case for very early retirement.   
On Sun, 13 Jan 2008 07:34:40 GMT, Kendall K. Down
 wrote:

>> >No idea - except that the Dutch authorities are being persuaded by them to
>> >be a good deal less accepting of free drug use.
> 
>> I doubt very much that the change has anything to do with crime.  You
>> are far too gullible.
>
>Curious, don't you think, that the Dutch *say* that it is because of crime?

Not all that curious at all.  Politics is a funny game.

Apparently we invaded Iraq because it was a threat to us.

The clue is in the figures themselves.

-- 
Cynic
date: Sun, 13 Jan 2008 19:18:42 +0000   author:   Cynic

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